Arsenal Banter Archive August 10 2014

10 Aug 2014 22:11:04
Im of the opinion we need two big signings . A world class striker and a powerhouse midfielder, to challenge for the league and champs league. I think we can manage to some extent if we don't get a striker. If we don't get carvalho or khedera and we are relying on arteta then we will be battling for fourth. Why can't wenger see he is a liability and his legs have gone. I think he used to be a certainty for the team until last season but he is too slow now and not strong enough.

10 Aug 2014 23:01:32
Totally agree Steve.

Centre back?

Whilst I would love a DM and a striker the priority for me right now has to be a CB. There is no way we could manage a whole season with koscielny and mertesacker as our two CB's with Chambers as back up for CB and RB. 6 defenders for 4 positions doesn't cut the mustard.

I personally felt light with only 3 recognised CB's last year we were lucky with injuries at CB last year. Sanga did well for the very few games he played at CB.

10 Aug 2014 23:26:52
Totally agree, top draw striker and DM and I still think we need a defender, someone like Micah Richards who can drop in and fill in across the back would be perfect.

This is the most positive I've felt at the start of a season for quite sometime.

Yes it goes without saying we need a cb but wenger has said he will replace verm. My point is the need for a player to defend in mid field.

Agreed, we need a true DM as we still looked vulnerable to the counter yesterday.

10 Aug 2014 21:52:54
Some bloke just threw a lump of cheese at me in the pub.

That wasn't very mature.

Dags, congrats, this is the first joke of yours I've laughed at!

And it's bloody awful mate ;)

10 Aug 2014 23:02:44
You are too kind Sir, lol

10 Aug 2014 21:41:50
Legia Warsaw Chairman has asked Celtic if, in the spirit of gamesmanship, they would step down and let them take their place in Champs League.

Yeah, and while you are there mate, would you ask Cheryl Cole, in the spirit of sexual gamesmanship, if she would sleep with me.

Jeez, some people.

Ooh, knock on door, might be Cheryl, got to go, wish me luck.

10 Aug 2014 21:33:01
Ed,

First managerial casualty of the season.

Mark Robins part's company with Huddersfield, after one day of new season.

Surely a record?

Didn't some some league one or two side sacked their manager the night before the season started a couple of years back?
Surely if they had doubts why let it go that far!.
Mind you Norwich sacked Bryan Gunn after one game and replaced him with Paul Lambert two promotions followed

10 Aug 2014 23:05:50
True G62.

10 Aug 2014 20:30:07
You carry on Golds I totally agree with you about JW, I'll stand next to you in the pub car park . :)

10 Aug 2014 21:03:20
I respect your opinion normally Banbury, but if that is a threat of physical violence, you are out of order.

{Ed025's Note - dont take things too seriously LG, there was a smiley at the end of the post mate, it was a light hearted bit of fun...jeeze.. dont lets end up like some other sites who have had a sense of humour bypass..

10 Aug 2014 21:07:35
Absolutely, all good banter.

I'll hold your coats lads and keep them with me and the girls in the car, just make sure you take your time and have a good long scrap, me and the women will keep each other amused I'm sure :-)

10 Aug 2014 21:24:30
Little Gunner,

Serious? Come on mate, it was obviously a joke by Banbury.

Lighten up mate.

You are a damn fine poster, who contributes greatly to this site.

Calm down or I will smack your bum bum.

That's a joke by the way. :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Girls. girls. or Flybo :p

LG just read your post mate, no ones going to hurt anyone physically and we shouldn't be doing it mentally either come to that which i'm sure no one intended.
Its just Banter geeza no offence intended and apologize if any has been taken.
Chil mate this isn't that sort of site at all

Durban Flybo is far to busy with Aaron now he's dumped Olly, so its just me and the girls I'm afraid, dirty job but someone's got to do it.
Have no fear mate you get in there and fight like a man, I'll make sure the missus is looked after mate, no! don't you dare thank me, its my pleasure :-)

10 Aug 2014 22:20:00
Alright sorry for taking that the wrong way, but I'm sure you can see how it looks.
Think I need a break from this site.
cya all tomorrow! ;)
Apologies again.

{Ed025's Note - no need to apologise LG, if i thought anyone meant anything like that mate, it would be an automatic ban..

LG keep posting mate we don't need to agree to enjoy the site in fact sometimes it better when we don't :-)
But the very large majority on here good people who just enjoy banter.
Your a valued poster who the site would be all the poorer without mate.

Am I the only one who thought Banb was talking about dogging?

11 Aug 2014 03:55:31
And with that, GoonerInk just won this argument and any future arguments. Well played sir.

11 Aug 2014 08:10:53
It takes a good man to apologise LG.

Fair play.

And before you ask Ed0025, no, I will not apologise for my jokes

10 Aug 2014 20:04:54
First time proper poster, followed site for a good 2 years.

Great result today,

But I do not buy in to this love in with Arteta, especially the agreement it's ok for him to be club captain.

He looked okay today against a very average city performance, and honestly, Jack and Rambo did the donkey work, when he did get brave and offensive and tried his predictable cruyff turn inside, he lost the ball, I respect him as a professional, but if he is our captain and leader in the middle, we will get found out against stronger, fitter and quicker players.

Apologies if negative, but would Arteta start for the top 7 or 8 EPL Teams? I don't think so.

Wenger needs to replace promptly!

{Ed025's Note - its called the feel good factor motion..

I am all for the feel good factor, I was last one singing in the pub, but I just sense if trust is put in Arteta to lead us, we will come undone.

I would rather Flamini as DM, but we badly need a true DM to replace Arteta, giving him captaincy will lead to false hope that Mikel can do a ob for us.

Welcome aboard mate excellent first post, I second that motion sir

Thanks gunner 62.

Was a great team performance, but we still need to be realistic about our intentions this season. We can't get clouded by one good performance.

Yaya Toure is one of the best CM's in the world, but was invisible today, doesn't mean he is trash. We can't be do the same with Arteta and believe he is right to captain this team, he has lost 2yds of pace and 2 seconds of time in his head.

True DM is what we need to really have a chance to win the EPL.

10 Aug 2014 20:57:15
Welcome to the nut house motion.

Keep posting mate.

Thanks Dags,

I think its like pringles, now I have popped (my banter cherry), I won't stop.

Mate I can't fault a word of that, love Arteta as a very good and loyal bloke but as our main DM? Sorry he wasn't up to it last season and year on ain't going to do him or us any favours at this stage of his career. We need a better purpose built DM player to fight the big fires and Mikel can still contribute greatly but not as our main man

Season/cup etc on the line and we get a penalty, who gets the spot. Arteta will be the first choice every time because he has a spine. That my friends is one of many reasons he is our captain. Trust he in AW he knows.

Not good enough, there are plenty of others that can take pens.

Arteta will be good in cup runs against lower opposition, but no way good enough for top teams.

I say again, could he start in the top 7 EPL teams? NO, so why start for AFC?

Going to have to respectfully disagree, just ask my man ozil.

11 Aug 2014 13:51:30
Welcome motion. I'm with you. I think a dude of great PL experience I wouldn't want him to be sold because he would be great backup for a younger model. DM is consistently a problem for us. It needs to be addressed this year or I fear we'll be saying the same old old at the end of the season

10 Aug 2014 19:47:47
Controversial.

I think we should sell Ramsey.

He is in the form of his life and we could get at least £30m for him in today's market.

Thoughts?

{Ed025's Note - i hope thats the joke you promised us dags?..

You've been warned about this sort of thing before Spursman, if Ed007 catches you on here again you might get banished to the other posts page permanently

If you said 50mill I'd think you were serious. 30mill I know your talking rubbish.

10 Aug 2014 21:48:35
Lol, yeah I was joking.:-)

10 Aug 2014 19:34:18
Aaron Ramsey scoring 25 in 36 games is ridiculous. Stunning stats for a midfielder. So proud of his revival and improvement. He is our go to guy and someone who wins us games single handedly.

For me, he is fast becoming undroppable and one of, if not the first name on the team sheet.


So, over to you this season Jack Wilshere.

You know what you need to do and the example you need to follow.

GOOD LUCK!

£9 Mil fantasy buy. jump on it ;)

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10 Aug 2014 19:01:08
Super finish from Rambo!

If Arteta is Captain - does that mean no CDM or are we planning on this years captain playing as many games as last years captain?

Rambo is fast becoming class on grass, great touch and balance for a lovely goal, .
Make no mistake this boy is the real deal and were going to be beating off PSG Real and Bayern with a massive stick next summer.
Ever so pleased for him and nice bloke to boot

Arteta will play plenty of games mate. If he doesn't start then Mertesacker will be more than capable.

Arteta is the father figure of the dressing room. A leader on and off the pitch and someone who has captained us for most of last season already. If Wenger deems him the captain then who are we to argue.

Also, at least this way, after Henry, Fabregas and Vermaelen, we know where Arteta will finish his career.

Barcelona.

Amen to that g62!

Nailed it Greeny well put!

10 Aug 2014 18:52:15
Chambers did really well today, capable 3rd Choice CB but the Kos injury scare just made me feel like we need one more at the back. On a side note TV23 just doesn't have the same ring.

Chambers is showing what he's capable of in these early stages and I'm really happy for him. Looks an excellent player and another gem from AW.

10 Aug 2014 18:42:33
So winning trophies, actual solid metal trophies that is, can be habitual. Hopefully the habit continues.
So my views on today's game.
First half was pretty decent. Sanchez was a constant thorn in City's side when he got the ball. A few more games and we will see even more from what can only be described as the most exciting signing in recent years. Sanchez and Ozil could be lethal.
Sanogo had a pretty good 45 minutes. Someone next to me said "he's quite quick". Quite being the operative word. If only he had a real burst of pace. He's still quite raw but characteristics are very similar to Giroud.
Debuchy in the first 20 minutes was excellent. Defensively solid and offensively heavily involved in at least 2 good early attacks.
Callum Chambers. 2nd half was defiantly his better half. Caught out a couple af times in the first 45 and on another day against an Aguero or a Negredo we would have been punished more. Looked off pace. Second half was better, still made a pretty big give away pass but this time recovered better. Another more natural centre back is defiantly needed.
Nothing to be said of Ramsey except great goal. Quietly went about his business as did wilshere and Cazorla. They did what they are expected to do as far as I'm concerned.
Second half the dynamic changed with the withdrawal of Sanchez. Really shows with the lack of pace up top we could struggle. That said the prospect of Walcott running onto some of those through balls Sanchez was providing does ease my concern.
So what do we learn from today?
Man City have a great first team, many of which were not playing. However there squad. Is it better than ours? I don't think they are. If we add the much wanted defensive midfielder and another centre back then our squad is damn strong. Like for like replacements in most positions.
When you think we didn't have Ozil, mertesacker, podolski and Walcott today, when they are available there's going to be some decent players who don't even make the bench! Injuries pending of course.
Finally I'd say I was quite impressed, not that I don't rate him, with Sczszeny. Some good saves made today. I wonder whether when Fabianski was at the club he had little respect for him. Always thinking that he would be number 1 ahead of his fellow countryman. Now we have Ospina, a goalkeeper who has performed extremely well at the World Cup, that he now realises he has a challenge on his hands to keep his place.
Oh and was it just me but was that wembley pitch awfully slow? Looked pretty to look at but slowed both teams down!

10 Aug 2014 20:19:50
Damn fine post.

Good assessment.

10 Aug 2014 18:03:29
Stat of the day:

Arsenal didn't win a trophy for 3283 days.


We've now won two in 85 days!

10 Aug 2014 18:22:02
Prognosis is looking good Dr.Greeny.

Indeed Dags! It's exciting times! Still, I don't care if we play terribly and only beat palace 1-0 on Saturday.

Have a very good feeling about this season!

Totally agree Dr Green, 3 pts 1 shot 1 goal none conceded will do me against Palace then get over to Turkey smash and grab two goal win then have the German boys back for the Everton match and able to rotate a little in a congested start to our season, plus we might just have a couple more players come in by then too.
We're all buzzing for the season ahead and chomping at the bit to get the race started.

10 Aug 2014 17:45:18
Arteta as captain then, i'm not that fussed to be honest, I quite like MA with the other players we have around him he should be ok.not that he will play every week

10 Aug 2014 17:18:22
Great game today from all of the players, Chambers and Ramsey (as usual) played very impressive, a little bit disappointed that Campbell didn't get more time though, is he on his way to Milan after all?

10 Aug 2014 17:10:43
How small is Alexis Sanchez?

For a while, I thought the mascot managed to sneak on and get a game.

Told you all about my man jack

10 Aug 2014 17:08:29
The score was a big bonus, the main thing was to work on fitness, team formation and not picking up injuries.

Picking up silverware can only be a good thing.

Well done boy's.

10 Aug 2014 16:51:15
Nice to see a goal from Giroud :)

No surprise though eh?

10 Aug 2014 17:12:37
All good for player confidence Bambam and that was a terrific strike mate.

A rested non over worked and over used Giroud is a very dangerous Giroud, when Sanogo started playing lest season Olly really seemed to come back to life after being worked into the ground prior to that.

10 Aug 2014 18:03:54
Yeah good goal, not sure on MOM though.

Great result

Mrs Giroud picked today's mom along with Platini.

10 Aug 2014 16:03:15
So why do so many gooners not care about losing Cazorla? He's quality

10 Aug 2014 16:47:22
Would love him to stay because he is versatile.

Out on the wing or in the middle.

Fantastic first season, not so great last, but still top quality.

Little magician.

I think the reason is most of last season he wasn't, but the season before he was player of the year so here's hoping

I think he will say, surely Arsene knows the depth and strength of the squad we have at this very moment is right, obviously TV needs replacing but we have the right numbers now

10 Aug 2014 15:43:11
Rambo just loooooooves Wembley.

Think Sanchez
Think Ozil
Think Ramsey
Its easy to not fully appreciate how good Aaron is because he's been with us so long, but not only is he a very top performer he's a consistently very top performer.
Get Mesut firing at his very best and its frighteningly exciting

10 Aug 2014 14:58:29
You guys should go on the City page and see how excited they are for this game.

Hang on a second.

I think Noel Gallagher is their only fan

10 Aug 2014 14:48:11
I'm pleased Sanogo is starting today be good to see how his confidence has been boosted after benfica.
City have so much strength in depth its virtually impossible for them to field a weak side, maybe not their best side but still a good side.
Big day also for Chambers and he who mustn't be picked on :-) I actually expect Jack to do well today for some strange reason

I really hope sanogo does well too, any idea why he was picked ahead of giroud though?

10 Aug 2014 15:23:41
I think Olly just looked 'off colour' against Monaco at Emirates Cup.

Maybe Arsene wanted to reward Yaya for having a better Emirates tournament!
Good management, boost your performing players up and hopefully the others will wake up

10 Aug 2014 14:08:53
Fact of the day returns!

Following his transfer to Barcelona, Barcelona have now paid off 34.6% of The Emirates Stadium (otherwise known as £135m in transfer fees.)

Onto today's game, I am going to predict a 3-1 win to Arsenal with Ramsey, Alexis and Sanogo amongst the scorers!

10 Aug 2014 14:39:11
Great stat Dr.Greeny.

By the same token, Mrs Dag's must own most of the fashion shops in the high street.

Great stat though mate.

Hum, I must own a few Oriental girls.

{Ed025's Note - on that basis i own half of the john player factory, and at least one floor of the jack daniels building!..

10 Aug 2014 18:29:11
Only half Ed?

Have you gave up? :-)

{Ed025's Note - just cut down dags.. :)

10 Aug 2014 12:35:17
By Arsenal's past standards, we have had a good transfer window (to date).

But, breaking it down, we have replaced Fabianski with Ospina, Sagna with Debuchy and Vermaelen with Chambers (ish).

So, we have only strengthened with Alexis Sanchez.

Enough?

{Ed002's Note - Nonsense. But for you perhaps the club will just stop now.}

10 Aug 2014 13:50:34
Why is it nonsense Ed?

{Ed002's Note - Because the club is working hard to improve the team and the expectation is that there will be players staying, leaving and arriving.}

He is right tho

But we have replaced those players with more quality or potential.

10 Aug 2014 14:47:26
I know Ed, totally agree with you.

That's why I was asking is it enough?

In my humble opinion, no.

10 Aug 2014 14:53:45
Ted,

We have gone almost like for like, in terms of Fabianski/Ospina, Sagna/Debuchy and Vermaelen/Chambers (ish).

Yes, its an improvement, but not a major one.

Sanchez is a major improvement and also not a like for like replacement but an addition.

11 Aug 2014 08:09:39
Dags, I was going through the same though process earlier today. Number-wise, the squad is only slightly larger than last season, but the quality in those positions has certainly improved.

Ed002 saying that we are still after more players is a good barometer I measure whether we are or not. I'm expecting at least 1 versatile player to come in that can play CDM and CB. If we get 2 players to cover each position, then even better.
Andy

10 Aug 2014 13:02:08
Whats the official arsenal rumours fantasy league number, can't wait for another season of this. Looking forward to a good result today for our boys, 2-1 to the arsenal. Also have a fantasy league if anyone is looking to joining more, code is 1142112-271920.

Have a good Sunday Gunners.

10 Aug 2014 10:48:54
Dear Ed033 HELP, what have I done wrong on my team formations application?
With difficulty I managed to complete my team and even managed to get Szczesney in goal in the end as he looked stupid at wing back.
I sent it off but where its landed nobody knows?
Thank you
Stupid of England

{Ed033's Note - Hi, quite surprisingly it ended up on the Arsenal Teams page. The post has the timestamp 09 Aug 2014 20:04:00. The way to use the app is to place the player icons in the desired position first and then name the players.

Thank you Ed, I am to the world of technology what Dags is to comedy the only difference being he did say something funny once.

Thank you Ed, I am to the world of technology what Dags is to comedy the only difference being he did say something funny once.

10 Aug 2014 13:53:22
Twice G62 :-)

Nice one Ed, that's funny :-)

10 Aug 2014 10:42:41
http://arsenalrumours.co.uk/formations/AndyMKGooner.php

My predicted line up for Citeh game today. I would however prefer to see Arteta dropped, Wilshere drop into Arteta's position and have the Ox play where I have Wilshere.

We cry out for power in the middle of the field and have a beast like the Ox in the squad.

A midfield of Wilshere, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Ramsey has energy, strength, pace, technique and an eye for a pass. Ok it might not have masses of experience but it has enthusiasm which can often make up for a lack of experience. Got to do it eventually as I see that as our future midfield you only get experience from playing there

10 Aug 2014 11:47:46
Decent shout Andy but still think we need a young, tough tackling ball winner.

How how howww are you blokes viewing the teams? Every time I try I get select your team which I've done already.
This is soooooo not fair ON ME!
I want to play, please let me, I've got sweets

Arteta has filled in as a holding mid with great professionalism, no complaints about being played out of position and has done his best but he needs to replaced as he is now detrimental to the way the team needs to play.

He has lost his pace and cannot cover back, he gives away free kicks in dangerous places and continually slows down the play when we are on a break. The ball comes to him and as others break forwards he always looks for a square or more often a back pass allowing the opposing defenders to get back in numbers leaving us to try and break down a well organized defense which we currently seem incapable of doing.

I know it sound like a broken record, but we need to bring in world class quality in the following positions CB, CDM and CF if we really want to challenge Citeh and Chelski.

10 Aug 2014 05:49:57
Arsene has said that Jack needs to be more consistent at this level. He needs now to be able to play 6 or 7 games on the trot without having to rest him. Most importantly he also added that he has no more ankle problems.
So reading between the lines I would be fairly confident in saying that Arsene is hinting that there are no more excuses.
Dags mentioned something in an earlier post which was very true. You hardly hear people saying do you remember the great performance Messi had or the great performance Ronaldo had etc etc . That's because these players are doing it week in week out. How true is that.
I want him to do well in fact I would love it. But for me he has got to grow up stop falling over at every opportunity and leave out his extra curricular activities.

10 Aug 2014 07:53:40
Fingers crossed Goldboy mate.

10 Aug 2014 08:16:38
Live in hope mate.

What are you moaning about GB, Jacko was great against .erm. Norwich :)

10 Aug 2014 11:48:45
Ahh that goal, lol.

10 Aug 2014 11:54:07
Another Wilshere post from Goldboy. surprise surprise!
Obsessive.

Lots of harmony today.

Well anyone going or watching the game, have a great time.

I will have to just check the scores on the net as I'm in France on the boat and won't get to see it as the wifi sucks here =[

10 Aug 2014 12:19:10
LG,

I don't think its too obsessive.

Wilshere is probably the most talked about player on this board, indeed amongst Arsenal supporters everywhere.

Unfortunately, its because of his performances, or sometimes lack of, that makes him so talked about.

On the plus side, I bet Sanogo is happy Goldboy has left him alone, lol.

I'm not obsessed with Jack, I'm not!
Just because I follow him on Twitter and face book and in the street and talk and think about him every hour on the hour does not make me obsessive about him.
I sometimes go minutes not even mentioning him

{Ed025's Note - love it G62..

I'm not obsessed with Jack, I'm not!
Just because I follow him on Twitter and face book and in the street and talk and think about him every hour on the hour does not make me obsessive about him.
I sometimes go minutes not even mentioning him

10 Aug 2014 15:58:12
I get all the points you make Dags, I can remember them from a week ago when you defending Goldboy for the exact same post about Jack. Or a few days before that when you defended him when Stoner asked him to stop the repetitiveness about Jack. Or a few days before that when he was arguing with someone else about. yeah you guessed it, JACK.
We all have our less favourable players, but slating them every few days on here doesn't help and to be honest it has worn very thin. I think I can speak for most people when I say, we're bored of it, especially since he hasn't played a competitive match since the last 10 times he made the point.
Someone made the point about leaving Jack alone for the first 10 games and then judging him, not a bad shout.
More repetitive than people asking Ed002, who are we linked with?

10 Aug 2014 15:57:33
You've got to laugh Ed0025 haven't you!
I tried depression once but couldn't get on with it mate, I know some people swear by it but to be honest it brough me right down.
Fun is better, I don't care what Steve says

{Ed025's Note - im with you on that mate..

10 Aug 2014 19:01:28
Little Gunner. All I've got to say to your reply mate is nothing really. As it doesn't warrant an answer. You are blinded mate and its not your fault really.

10 Aug 2014 01:08:13
So from paper talk diaby is set to miss tomorrow's game with a hip injury. Not surprising if true. Like many I'm a huge fan of him but this just shows we can't rely on him anymore. Not saying get rid of him or anything so extreme. But just shows maybe we need to plan our team without him. I was saying at work he should be given a chance as our dm against city. First game and he might not even play lol

Diaby shouldn't even have a squad number, nothing against him but it is a waste, he won't even play 10 games .

He has to go

10 Aug 2014 09:44:27
It's hard tho. Because he is such a talent. If it was me in charge i'd offer him a contract with a low (for a footballer) wage and good appearance fee bonuses. We must've wasted so much money on him. If he can't accept that then go. Oh yes I'm a devil on football manager lol

09 Aug 2014 23:53:01
Good luck TV5 - thank you for the great service!

I got to think AW already has a centre back lined up and about to be announced

AW - please can I have. Centre back, CDM plus a striker. Happy if you also add Costa just as a cherry on the top!

Surely with TV5 gone and Diaby already injured - the above must happen in part

Good luck tomorrow - silverware is infectious so let's get one more for the cabinet