Arsenal Banter Archive July 10 2016

10 Jul 2016 20:34:27
I've always heard Sissoko want to join Arsenal. He's been awesome for Newcastle in EPL and for France in Euro! Just need opinions of you all about him, and eds about his transfer!?

{Ed001's Note - he does not do enough for my liking. Reminds me of Yaya Toure, can be incredible, but can't be arsed most weeks to bother breaking sweat and so you have to carry him.}

10 Jul 2016 20:49:20
Is he what we need? Our MF is pretty congested as it is and although I'd make an exception for Pogba or Inesta we really have to find a CF CB and naturally RMF player before we worry about anything else.

10 Jul 2016 20:53:54
Thanks for the reply, Ed! This first half he's had a wonderful game!

10 Jul 2016 21:12:46
Crap at Toon but been good at Euro's.

Shop window?

10 Jul 2016 21:17:56
I think you were very polite there Ed, he really has never been awsome, not ever in the EPL, but looks great at the euros. Possibly has a twin brother.

{Ed001's Note - I meant to say 'could be incredible' rather than can.}

10 Jul 2016 21:35:30
Thanks for clarifying, and yes, he could be!

10 Jul 2016 21:43:05
I understand you, Ed! He went totally missing in the second half!

{Ed001's Note - that is what he does. Newcastle would be very happy to sell.}

10 Jul 2016 22:58:54
i'd love him as a squad player tbh. Probably small money compared to a lot of other options, powerful physique and capable of dynamite runs. Would definitely add depth to us. Don't think he's good enough for first team regular for the reasons mentioned above but maybe in a "larger" setup there'd be a fire lit under him, especially if he has to fight for a place.

11 Jul 2016 01:05:20
Replacement for ox or walcott would be interesting, at least he would be available to play. We need some power and pace too.

11 Jul 2016 16:27:19
Newcastle have put a 35mill price tag on cissoko lol for 1 good game really.

12 Jul 2016 13:30:51
Great player, probably has a stinky attitude because he's still playing at a club well beneath him. Correct me if I'm wrong but was it him who scored a brave against Chelsea on his Newcastle debut? Definitrly has been incredible and can be still - agree with the fact that most of the time he doesn't look arsed though!

10 Jul 2016 17:54:53
Still not sure pogba will end up at united, the 100 mil mooted will put a lot of pressure on united for future transfer business paying all that money out not in the champs league. But if it happens will juve come back loaded with wonga to offer 50 or 60 mil for sanchez. If that happens and we spend that money on drax, a big name striker would also have to come or else the pressure on wenger would be even greater. Or will we hold onto sanchez, who is a little unsettled, regardless.

10 Jul 2016 18:21:07
Reading this Steve I just had a thought. Juventus's president apparently said they asked Arsenal how much for Alexis. We said 34m. They've come back with that and we rejected saying he is no longer for sale. Is it because this 100m pogba situation has stepped up and we can see us getting a lot more. Or is he just generally not for sale. Regardless we should be holding on for a lot more. Isn't benteke on the verge of moving for around 30m.

10 Jul 2016 19:01:40
I feel sorry for Sanchez because he came to us and single handedly raised the whole squads work rate with his tireless example but we failed to build on that and the emergence of Le Coq last summer and things slowly drifted back to how they were before he arrived and Sanchez looked visibly beaten last season.
If he wants out let him go, get the best money we can get and learn this time from what we got wrong with Alexis, if we hang on to him against his will he will be worth much less in a year's time so what's the point.

10 Jul 2016 19:07:32
I'd want 40 million absolute minimum for him and even then I'd be doing Sanchez a favour because I see his point of view, we paid 32 didn't we?

10 Jul 2016 19:22:26
I don't want him to leave, but if he decides to go minimum 50-55 million, if players like Benteke can move for 30 million and real can ask 65 million for Morata who had 2 decent seasons than 50-55 million should be minimum.

10 Jul 2016 19:27:10
D if you believe what you read juve want him and sanchez is only 80% happy (sorry) its something that can be worked on by juve. Only my opinion from what I've read. If sanchez is unhappy, then there will be a price, if he isnt, then no problem.

10 Jul 2016 20:03:31
If he's unhappy then yes there's s price but we must demand more than what's been quoted.

10 Jul 2016 20:21:19
D I think that's why the figure of 34 was banded about but we obviously rejected it oit of hand.

10 Jul 2016 20:23:38
Just for the record I don't want him to leave either but no one is greater than the team and we should make whatever attempts to replace him, with similar standard if we did sell.

10 Jul 2016 23:03:42
I wouldn't sell him simple as. I'd rather he left on a free in 2 years time. Even if he is frustrated with being at arsenal I couldn't imagine he'd stop giving his best. Who could we honestly replace him with otherwise? 2 time copa america winner, proven premier league talent, shown to be the difference in tight games, and can score 17 goals in a season he played poorly in for large parts.

11 Jul 2016 03:22:32
Just for interest sake he was valued at 60 mil by some people who do that sort of thing in jan 2016.

10 Jul 2016 14:59:06
Those who are questioning Arsene's suitability for the job in the modern era are very justified methinks. Just because we question his decisions doesn't mean we have stopped supporting Arsenal. We all love our club and want us to do well and put up good fights for every trophy even if we might not win.

Arsene is not getting any younger

New tactical coaches have recently joined the EPL making the competition stiffer

We are not as financially constrained as we were seven years back

We have a decent core of class players to build around

Now is the perfect opportunity for Arsene to prove if he still has what it takes to run with the"wild horses" or to be sent to the glue factory.

10 Jul 2016 11:55:22
I really don't know what the aw-outers want. Would you be happy spending £100m on players to get that one place higher, and for ticket prices to go up next season to match?

City and Chelsea have great players, but often play poorly (City away from home and Chelsea last season) and to me it just feels cheap that they try and buy the title. Personally, not much for me to get excited about or to support.

Eds can correct me, but part of Chelsea's business model is an income generating loan model which makes business sense, but something i don't agree with. high numbers of loan players that can be sold at a profit a la Lukaku, or they can pick the best ones. Doesn't seem healthy for football and especially the smaller clubs. I'd rather we have young players we actually want to keep, develop and believe in rather than just numbers through the door and straight back out to make money.

I look at Barcelona and real, and they are easy clubs for people to support. They've got the best forwards in the World and even they don't always win their league. Hardly any competition for them too.

The prem is competitive, with spurs, liverpool and west ham back around the top 4, and Everton surely due a revival under the awesome koeman this season. Exciting stuff, and I still think we'll be top 3, and could even win it. (If the fans get behind the team) . If Leicester can win with vardy mahrez morgan and kante, surely we can with ozil, xhaka, Rambo, Santi, jack, Sanchez, Theo, olly, kos, bellerin, cech and wenger who brought them all together.

That said, i honestly don't care if AFC win the league, as long as they go about it in a way I can get behind. I'd much rather play our style of football, see our players develop and win the league through hard work and a great project, especially developing youth, than just buy it. Something to be proud of.

10 Jul 2016 12:34:05
I think what it boils down too he's been here too long now and he's not improving us we are pretty stale he is getting on and some people just want to give someone they percieve as being current forward thinking and dynamic. i'm afraid this world is all about impatience and can do better and bigger and being the best. To reach that in any sport, not many people and teams stick with the same old things, they get better equipment, coaches players etc. Some of us just want some one else to steer the ship, because righly or wrongly we think its in need of a refit.

10 Jul 2016 12:50:04
Fair enough Steve :)

Anyway, like you or someone else on here said - this season is most likely aw's last and he's left a great legacy for the next manager (Henry? ) or we look awesome and win the league and we want him to stay!
Either way, should all enjoy it. It would definitely help our chances of winning if we get behind them though.

10 Jul 2016 13:30:17
Jg the big problem is the underlying impatience with wenger that will resurface very quick and he can quickly gain support but quickly loose it as well. The guy has to some extent created this atmosphere and he has the impossible task now, win the league from the front or loose a percentage of fans quickly. I think after last season being seen as his big chance, there is no leeway at all with some this year and that's not a good atmosphere. He has an impossible job on.

10 Jul 2016 14:46:19
We do not demand to win the league, rather that we make the team as strong as possible within our financial comfort to make us as competetive as possible. We need a striker who can score, someone who the fans and the players can rely on. That is where the qualm lies between Wenger and the fans. Olly, Mert and Gabriel are too unreliable and we expect the man in charge to at least try and remedy that.

10 Jul 2016 15:47:22
Rue my qualm is i don't think he's cabable any more and i don't see things happening that challenges that. Whether it be wenger or the board, if there is a specific problem that needs sorting, you sort it pronto, not fudge about.

10 Jul 2016 10:48:16
Does anyone know where Cazorla is. He does not appear in any of the training pictures.