Arsenal Banter Archive June 10 2014

10 Jun 2014 23:07:32
Anyone opposing us taking Vela back must be looking at the price and assuming he's no good. Well, he's valued at around £20m and can play anywhere up front, I see him at LW for us. Oh, and Atletico are very keen on him, they seem to know a little bit about strikers, excellent bit of business. We get a ST/LW with plenty of cash left over to get a marquee ST and DM. No-brainer!

10 Jun 2014 23:32:30
Vela's made no secret to the fact he has no internet in coming back tbf

10 Jun 2014 23:47:30
£3.5m?

No brainer.

11 Jun 2014 00:15:23
Vela has internet, it's interest he doesn't have.

11 Jun 2014 00:33:42
Vela has no internet?

Don't sign him than, I don't want anybody playing for Arsenal that I can't add as a Facebook friend.

lol 1404.

Yeah Ed, good point by 1404! We're all assuming here that Vela wants to come back.
1) Do you know what the player wants to do?
2) If he doesn't want to come back, and we activate the clause, what happens?
Thanks in advance.

{Ed002's Note - (1) I I don't know. (2) Nothing.}

11 Jun 2014 01:13:44
Playing hardball to get Greizman for cheaper hopefully! Hmmm

{Ed002's Note - That is not how the transfer business operates.}

More in hope than any knowledge of transfer dealings ed cheers for the heads up

Pretty sure a read a direct quote from the player himself saying he was open to a move back to us, and to top it off he said he'd seen the advert about the super fast wifi that bt do, apparently that was the clincher and he's coming home!

10 Jun 2014 22:19:20
Vela's movement and spacing is vastly better now

With Spain being less physical and technical, strikers must learn to get open using instinct, reflex and quickness

Hence a Torres on form is such a headache for defenders, even if he doesn't score

I remember a few Vela CL goals for us, I believe one was Braga where he had a tasty chip, which was pure class

If he can put it together, he can be a lethal striker for us

Advantage with him is, like Flamini, you can insert him into the system day one

That being said, I could see us buying, then putting him up for sale as his value is at an all-time high

But at 25, a good year for us, and he's worth over 20m easy

Typical Wenger

Very well said mate. I would make him our first buy if I was Wenger

10 Jun 2014 21:19:52
Fact of the day:

Papa Bouba Diop has scored more World Cup goals than Cristiano Ronaldo, Lionel Messi, Wayne Rooney and Loic Remy combined! (Special Remy mention for Dags!)

He's a unit too! Sign him up! Haha!

He's obviously nowhere near good enough but it's probably more believable than most of the toilet paper rumours we are getting currently!

10 Jun 2014 21:56:07
Greeny,

Stop picking on my mate Remy.

He's our future number 14, lol.

Some of the names being mentioned makes me think this widow is turning into Wacky Races for us lead by Dirk Dagsterly in the Remy mobile, fraken racken Dirk Dagsterly hehe

For £3.5m I will carry him from Sociedad.

10 Jun 2014 23:03:20
G62, you can be Penelope Pitstop, lol.

Surely you mean Jenelope pitstop DG :-)
On Monday me you and Gold's can be the amphill mob but who's our professor Pentatlan? :-)

10 Jun 2014 18:16:23
Partly educated guesswork and partly what I'd like to see from Arsenal this summer. I can't see Wenger signing more than 5 senior players with his views on balance of the squad, and there is little doubt that a GK, RB and ST will definitely need to come in. A midfielder seems likely whilst defensive cover may be necessary if TV5 leaves. I personally don't feel Monreal is good enough and would like to see him move on and be replaced, but I feel this summer may be too soon for that.

GK - would not be surprised to see one of the following for around the £6m mark: Marshall, Reina, Vorm, Ospina or Ruffier

RB - Aurier would be a great signing, especially if (as mooted) for around £7-8m. I would rather not see Juanfran come. Sime Vrsaljko perhaps?

CD - Only if TV5 leaves, and given Wenger's policies it would seem he would be keen to keep him for another year. Maybe a youth signing for long-term cover?

CM - Schneiderlin as long term replacement in the Arteta/Flamini role (particularly if Kallstrom does not sign on another short-term deal) would be great, especially if the Bender deal is dead. Given the speculation on CMs last summer (Gustavo, Kondogbia, Wanyama, Bender etc) it's certainly an area that needs addressing, however next summer may be more likely if we are to have another season out of Arteta (we still have Flamini) and were to, say, sign Kallstrom on a one-year deal.

ST - the area everyone wants to see strengthened ASAP. Remy I feel would give us a good dimension, certainly is a more affordable bracket than some of the other names mooted (it seems likely his fee would be less than £15m at any rate), and both his positional versatility and style means he would probably be able to combine quite well in a front 2 or a front 3 alongside our current options. Vela seems unlikely, and selling the buy-back clause to raise funds, rather than actually buying him back, would seem a smarter move. Benzema, Cavani and all the other rockstars don't seem to be the way we often go, as much as I'd love to see Balotelli in red and white!

To see 3 good players to come in at GK, RB and ST would be a hell of a start. Complemented by a midfielder and/or a defender dependent on players moving on. At this stage I would be a little surprised to see Wenger in for another creative player, although an out and out left winger (with versatility) would be a dream - although a £25-30m signing of the ilk of Griezman, Bernard, El Shaarawy or even the more expensive Di Maria seems a little like a pipe dream. Even so, 4 first team players costing the club around £40m mark between them still leaves the rest of these alleged mega-bucks to bring in Marquee Mach-II.

A Backup keeper is must with Fabianski gone, pref with exp. to keep Schezz on his toes. Would Reina be willing to be no2 not so sure, Vorm or Marshall might be better bets and will pus Schezz hard for no1.

RB again a must yes I can see that Aurier coming in a typical Wenger singing for sure. Stephen Caulker might also be another sound option

Wenger has stated before that anymore than 3 or 4 singings can upset the harmony of the squad so expect no more.

For me another striker is needed pref somebody with pace as we missed Walcott's pace badly when he was injured. Again another DM a would be useful but I can see Wenger sticking with Flamini or Arteta for another season at least.

I would like another Ramsey box to box type as you can't exactly rely on Diaby coming back period and look how we missed Ramsey's penetration when he was injured.

We must not get into a situation like last season where 2 players are so key to our performance and effectiviness and need to have like for like cover.

Fact: Arsenal will never ever win the league with Arteta as a starter, We need strength combined with a litte technique besides Ramsey, Khedira, Schneiderlin or Bender would fit right in, this is imo a more important signing than a ST, even though we need both desperately if we want to compete with Chel$ea, City and Pool. Guessing ManU will be a lot stronger next season as well.

10 Jun 2014 20:31:03
Wenger always have a plan! But screw him this is my silly season. Valdes. ! (Nordfeldt). Aurier. (Richards, Caulker.) Khedira. (De bong). Fabregas. Vela. Cavani. To expensive? Affordable Yess

What have you seen in the last however many windows to make you think he has a plan? I must be missing something.

10 Jun 2014 19:23:50
Not sure if my last post went. Sorry ED if you get this twice.

Do you remember when Arsenal only revealed their transfers to an awaiting media. He would be wearing the Arsenal shirt, with the back drop of the ground. Well Daniel Sturridge will be doing just that. No twitter, no social medial no press, no hype just the signing of the season. Thanks

10 Jun 2014 18:55:20
Victor Valdes? Deal to go to Monaco is off.

{Ed002's Note - Because he is injured for a few more months.}

I remembered he was injured shortly after posting. Do'h

10 Jun 2014 17:53:42
Just a thought.
Would anybody be willing to sell Santi to Athletico and replace him with Cesc!?

Cesc, Schneiderlin, Remy, a RB and Reus would be an awesome summer for us!

10 Jun 2014 18:47:43
I might have mentioned that I'd be up for that. yep Defo mentioned it a couple times

10 Jun 2014 18:08:24
Yes. We get upgrade and stop Chelsea getting him. Two birds, one stone. I do like Santi but he was too inconsistent last year. Went missing in big games.

Yes!! As long as we get a proper left winger as well 18mil is being thrown around that seems fair for Santi

Yes or Ranaldo or Messi and anybody else who is going to happen. Sorry but Cesc is not coming home short of kidnapping him

10 Jun 2014 18:08:24
Yes. We get upgrade and stop Chelsea getting him. Two birds, one stone. I do like Santi but he was too inconsistent last year. Went missing in big games.

Yes!! As long as we get a proper left winger as well 18mil is being thrown around that seems fair for Santi

10 Jun 2014 21:24:27
Absolutely

Santi is not as good as our central mids and not fast enough to be a winger

Replacing him w Cesc for about 10-12m is a steal

No disrespect to Santi

10 Jun 2014 14:45:27
hi ed, do you know when arsenal will be releasing their new kit

{Ed002's Note - I really have no idea, sorry.}

I think they will do it along with a signing maybe? Reus to go with the Puma strip yes please!

I think they will do it along with a signing maybe? Reus to go with the Puma strip yes please!

10 Jun 2014 13:39:42
that is a relief. we signed a 17 yr old on a two year deal

10 Jun 2014 14:19:18
Get in there.

Oh wait,

10 Jun 2014 12:39:18
I wonder what the situation is with Khedira. He is probably the player I would want most as a CDM, on the last year of his contract and we have some german players to attract the player.

Di Maria is another I would love to see at Arsenal, but I feel he will cost way too much for us to make a move.

I don't see the Alexis Sanchez rumours going far, as he will again cost somewhere around Di maria would and is predominately a right winger, when we are in more need of a left winger.

Bender does not want to leave
Draxler is of no interest or probably feels the same.
Schneiderlin will cost a significant amount, if Shaw and Lallana are sold which will give them sufficient funds to rebuild.
Morata on loan is definitely not what wenger will do, and to buy him for the money Madrid want would be a even bigger no no.

Cavani is out of our budget, Benzema will probably go where the money is green-er, I assume Cavani's replacement, or Aguero.

So I would assume our targets to be between Balotelli, Mandzukic, Jackson Martinez, and perhaps Insigne if we are going with a younger forward to backup giroud.

Im still perplexed as to why we have not made inquires or shown interest in Muller, Schweinsteiger or Kroos.

Recently read on another forum with someone who claims to be ITK that Oscar is attracted in playing for PSG, and his national team mates are asking him to make the move.

one thing that interests me, is what Liverpool will do if madrid come for Suarez, do they drag the transfer all summer long, and disrupt their preperations for the next season, trying to extract a world record fee for the player or will they sell up, use the funds to buy his replacement who will cost significant amount in his own right and prepare for next season.

If we land the likes of Di maria, Khedira and say Balotelli, I think we will have enough ammunition to win a trophy and improve on last season as geniune contenders.

however if chelsea land cesc, felipe luiz, diego costa, and whoever turns out to be the other forward, we are going to have a tough time competing with them,

liverpool with suarez geniune contenders and a threat, liverpool without suarez may not make top 4.

Man city, standing still and just adding one or two more players will see them take a backseat to chelsea.

If man united manage to get some big players and spend a significant amount to attract those players they will be geniune contenders for top 4, if not title.

So I reckon depending on how our summer goes or liverpool, it will be one of us that makes that drop out of the top 4.

10 Jun 2014 13:55:28
You make a lot of sense to me there Laker. Khedira is proven quality. His injury is concerning, but, if he gets through the WC, for me, he should be our #1 target. He shouldn't take long to settle in, with the German contingent and at 27, he has a lot of good years left. Balotelli for me, is also a no-brainer. He is a world class striker, for me, no argument can be made otherwise. Yes, he's prone to sulking and being disinterested, yes he's Mel Gibson level crazy, but neither of those points change the fact that his gifts make him a top striker. Those negatives are a blessing, as they're the only reason we have a chance for him. He's only 23, proven in the PL and can you imagine what he could do if he decided he had a point to prove?

10 Jun 2014 14:22:06
That's a damn fine post Laker.

Just read on some french paper le sport about some 20 mill euro for khedira interest, I wonder if they read my post. haha

10 Jun 2014 17:31:34
Khedira is a box to box player

He requires a deep lying mid or pivot player next to him otherwise is a huge liability

Bender is also a box to box player as Rolfes is Lever's pivot

If you're looking at Germany, Gundogan or even Sahin fit the mold

10 Jun 2014 07:40:51
I woke up Sunday morning and I thought I was a marquee and then yesterday morning when I woke I felt like a wigwam so I went to see the doctor.
Turns out I'm two tents

09 Jun 2014 23:20:16
Some people say he's the 3 way genetic mistake of Johnny Vegas, Jose mourinho and Kim Jong Ill. some people say he appeared on doctor who, as the tardis and apparently he wants to ban the word 'maybe' from the dictionairy because it's to committal. All we know is he's called ed02. :D