Arsenal Banter Archive August 11 2017

11 Aug 2017 22:36:33
Loved the Ox today. Not his or many people's best position for him, but bombed forward with purpose.

11 Aug 2017 23:31:59
And lost the ball all the time.

11 Aug 2017 22:17:51
we still need 3 players

van dijk/ Manolas
nzonzi/ Fabinho
lucas moura/ mahrez.

11 Aug 2017 22:57:22
Agree with the centre backs but that's as far as I go.

Our formation 3-5-2 doesn't need another defensive midfielder, we need a player similar to Ramsey, willing to make the run beyond the edge of the box.

Ramsey and Xhaka will work well this year but our back ups aren't good enough, so to me I think the two are Seri or Goretzka if we get a Cm

As for wide players. Moura is a poor mans walcott, and I believe mahrez is good but not enough to take us up a level, personally think lemar or carrasco would be good choices (carrasco very unlikely as Athletico won't sell anyone until their ban is up)

Also i think a must is buying Butland. He'd come in a challenge Cech instantly and can feed off Cech and Lehmann to improve.

4 signings is a lot to ask this late in the window.
But we can all hope.

11 Aug 2017 23:39:53
Lucas moura?
Surely no better than our current options.

12 Aug 2017 00:19:04
moura can't be any worse than walcott whos been robbing a living for the past 10 years.

12 Aug 2017 07:53:04
20 goals last season is not 'robbing a living '

11 Aug 2017 21:59:49
Results are everything in football so the best start for years.
You can pick holes in victories and make excuses in defeat but 3pts was both required and achieved, job done.

11 Aug 2017 22:03:18
Exactly.
Would take that every day.

11 Aug 2017 22:09:58
Take it every day of the week, now we can sit back relax and watch Watford vs Liverpool, Newcastle vs The Spuds and Stoke vs West Ham.

Come on the Toon Army. 😂.

11 Aug 2017 23:24:48
Girouddd:) :) hahah
very nice:)
COYG andi.

11 Aug 2017 21:45:17
Was Elneny started to showcase to Leicester why they should be happy he refused to sign for them?

11 Aug 2017 22:34:19
Elneny played well.

11 Aug 2017 22:55:22
I think the lad did well today and he also got an assist.

12 Aug 2017 02:07:32
In our half he and xhaka were awful, over the halfway line better but not a clue how to protect the defence.

11 Aug 2017 21:43:29
Well played Lacazette- super debut. Took some kicks, worked hard on wing, great goal and looked real good.

Well played Kola also

Sort the soft centre out Wenger - it will kill us this season

Sort the slow attack as that will cost us

We made an average club look good and a huge club rather weak.

11 Aug 2017 21:49:26
I wouldn't say we made an average team look good. Leicester are a very good team.

11 Aug 2017 21:57:59
In Wenger's defence we were without Gabriel, Koscielny and Mertesacker. Mustafi and Chambers are being brought back in after international duty during the break. Not many teams could cope without 5 CB's.

11 Aug 2017 21:16:07
Too slow attacking and weak at the core - nacho in the middle plus Holding doesn't work. Holding needs Per. .

Lacazette must wonder WTF is going on. He has to make 6 runs before we pass. The one time we are quick - he scores.

Nice game from the young man

Why Ox on the left!!

11 Aug 2017 21:25:55
Wenger will play him anywhere as long as he gets enough game time to encourage him to sign a new deal.

11 Aug 2017 21:46:47
It's arsenal SY. take a sit. yes we need to be quicker in attack. we used to boast the best attacking team. now it's pass pass pass zero results.

11 Aug 2017 20:59:16
Elneny not good enough, Jamie carragher abdloutr arse, does he not realise mustafi and koscielny and murts not available.

11 Aug 2017 21:48:06
funnyhow Elneny is underrated.

11 Aug 2017 20:39:52
kolasinac looks a beast should give a try out on as DM looks made for it.

11 Aug 2017 20:02:57
So we need a new CB.

11 Aug 2017 16:06:02
Latest multiple club transfer rumours from Ed002, which includes Arsenal.


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11 Aug 2017 13:32:48
I don't see any reason why we should not finish in the top four. Our team is good enough to achieve 3rd or 4th. Winning the league is a BIG shout, but that won't stop me from believing that it can be done. I predict Pep won't do as good as people are expecting. Please note: I AIN'T WEARING NO RED TINTED GLASSES. I don't do glasses.

11 Aug 2017 13:47:32
If we manage to keep the squad intact, I see no reason why we cannot challenge for the title, especially as we don't have CL football to contend with this season.

11 Aug 2017 14:47:00
We don't have CL. but we do have Europa League which comes with more fixtures than the CL am I wrong? Wenger saying it will have to be an exceptional player if anyone else joins us this summer doesn't really look promising. Looks like we will have to pray that everyone can stay fit and hope Lacazette can carry the weight of him and Sanchez on his shoulders. Not that he should have too!

11 Aug 2017 15:57:49
title should be our aim no doubt but we don't make ourselves contenders. I honestly think city will be great. he's moved on the dead wood mostly and end of next summer it will be his full team I think scarey.

11 Aug 2017 15:59:58
also a full season of gabriel jesus could be deadly. gone under the radar abit.

11 Aug 2017 17:32:51
I think he broke his eye socket or something Derby.

11 Aug 2017 06:49:31
In respect of Sanchez, if we pay him £15m a year for 4 years that's a cost of £60m. If we keep him until the end of his deal, we risk losing him for nothing in a year and will have to spend upwards of £50m to replace him. If we sell him for £50m, then we will have to spend at the least the same, if not much more on a similar level of replacement.
However, my gut feeling with Sanchez and Ox is that it isn't simply about money, they both want to move on.

{Ed025's Note - money will always be a factor RG, not many leave to take a pay cut mate..

11 Aug 2017 07:05:54
Hi Ed, of course money is a factor, but in the case of these two players the clubs interested in them can match and better any deal Arsenal offer. In Sanchez's case he may be motivated by the prospect of playing for a coach such as Guardiola or by the greater prospect of CL or PL success. In Ox's case he may also have similar aspirations. If it were simply money, offer Sanchez £350,000 pw and Ox £150,000 pw and they wuld sign!

{Ed025's Note - its the knock on effect that that causes though RG, if you give in to these types of demands it wont be long before the other players are banging on the managers door wanting parity mate..

11 Aug 2017 10:30:41
Totally agree Ed. If Ox gets £150,000 per week, there would be many first team players knocking on Wenger's door. Also, Wenger always has the highest salary at the club, so if Sanchez gets £300,000+ pw, then Wenger will have to be paid slightly higher.

11 Aug 2017 16:07:13
if sanchez signs the deal you won't see wenger get a new contract no way.

11 Aug 2017 08:28:28
if you don't give in tho eds you will always lose the best players we have the cash pay it. look at tottenham right now dominoes are about to fall wage wise.

{Ed025's Note - but two wrongs have never made a right derby..

11 Aug 2017 14:23:08
Surely that would be the easiest conversation Wenger could ever have Ed, as if 99% of the remaining squad members came in demanding 150k a week it would be a simple and straightforward no (after he had stopped laughing) . In all walks of life people get paid more than others for success. I don't think paying Sanchez, Ozil and to a slightly lesser extent the Ox a decent salary can be argued against as they are all good players. I think the damage is done when people see non-performers still get rewarded, and in our case that's someone like Walcott, who is supposedly on over 100k per week, when he doesn't even get in the first team, let along single handedly carry the team to victory. Paying a non-performer handsomely would cause an issue in any workplace, but i don't know many people who begrudge the salary earned by the top people in their industry when they can see what a difference they make.

{Ed025's Note - decent salary epping?...extortion if you ask me mate..