Arsenal Banter Archive February 11 2018

 

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11 Feb 2018 23:23:24
{Ed's Note - scholes_18_18 has posted a new article entitled, Changes Manchester United should implement

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12 Feb 2018 06:38:40
Oh dear you don’t understand mourinho very well. Increase tempo And promote youth 🤣🤣.

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12 Feb 2018 10:02:22
You can laugh all you like Sanogo but he has given the youngsters a chance since he's been at United, Rashford has made morr appearances for Jose than any other player since he took over, along with Martial and Lingard they're already in double figures for goals. Also seen Scott McTominay get a number of games this season, he's been nowhere near as bad as people/ media say in terms of giving youth a chance.

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12 Feb 2018 10:57:08
To be fair Lingard Rushford and Martial were all Lvg players before Jose took over. Jose is a very very successful manager who in my opinion will make utd very competitive again and quite possibly champions but youth development hasn't been a quality he has been known for at any point of his career so far, quite the opposite.

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12 Feb 2018 11:10:01
The trouble is Scholes, he’s had to do that because you’ve been so poor.

Your squad is miles off. Two £90 million pound players who only turn up against the smaller teams.

Sanchez and De Gea are the two real quality players you possess. The rest are pretty poor mate and you’re in a dream world if you think Maureen is going to win you jack.

Your squad is littered with dough bakes and it’s only the easiest start to a League campaign ever that has seen you hang on to where you are and that ain’t going to last.

You blown 100’s of millions and still play utter tripe, the worst football playing big team across Europe and a country mile behind city.

Sanchez being your only player likely to get a game with them with De Gea as a good back up keeper.

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12 Feb 2018 11:49:06
De Gea as back up? Must be having a laugh. Truth is we aren't good enough right now but not as bad as everyone is saying, we are behind City just like you guys are behind Spurs, only player who would get into the Spurs team from Arsenal is Ozil (who is ridiculously good)

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12 Feb 2018 12:04:14
And i do agree with you Gunner, i am confident in Jose to turn it around, we have progressed under him even if it has been a slow progression at times, but we were under no illusion of how tough the job would be when he took over. Our club was absolutely shot after the Moyes and LVG era's, the Moyes season was so bad it genuinely feels like a blur so taking that season under consideration and the two under LVG we have improved.

The worst thing right now is seeing the lack of commitment from the players at times, like the game passes us by, if your team loses you want to see them give 100% for the 90 mins, even if it may be to no avail, but losing like we did y'day was disheartening to be honest. They scored and there was no urgency from us, like we had already accepted defeat, weird seeing that from a Utd team and its happened on more than one occasion this season unfortunately. Modern day football perhaps, big headed egocentric players?

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12 Feb 2018 12:13:04
Mate De Gea isn’t good enough with his feet to get into the City team. That is the honest truth and I genuinely couldn’t couldn’t care who gets into the spurs team mate.

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12 Feb 2018 12:17:03
Maureen is a million miles behind pep. Utd play humpa lumpa football compared to them. He is taking man u on the road to nowhere and he will waste millions doing it on cave men. Your youth with him will stay youth and flair players will be sold or made to sit on the naughty chair.

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12 Feb 2018 12:29:52
So goalkeeping is all about how good you are with your feet and not with how good of an actual keeper you are Stoner? I don't think Vidic would get into this City team either because John Stones is better with the ball at his feet. Its no wonder the art of defending has gone out the window in modern day football when defenders and goalkeepers are all told to be good on the ball and forget about the basics of defending.

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12 Feb 2018 12:32:27
I think the utd job was huge when Mourinho took over simply because Fergie left utd with an awful lot of average players and some ageing stars that only he seemed capable of getting to play above themselves over a season, Moyse was the wrong man to follow Fergie and Lvg the wrong man to follow Moyse.
United are a huge club determined to regain there previous glory days, to be fair they always have been that even before Fergie, they appoint and back thier managers 100% and simply change what doesn't work until they get it right.
United are all about being all they can possibly be and doing all they can possibly do to achieve that, from board to fans it's in Uniteds dna, Jose is a winner at a club that is 100% committed to winning big prizes with fans who expect to win big prizes too.
Mourinho is the right man at the right club at the right time, whether it will prove to be enough only time will tell but I personally think it's difficult to think that the only club Jose will fail to win a title with is Manchester United, personally I think he is capable of winning titles with Liverpool Spurs and Arsenal so United shouldn't be beyond him.
The football might not be fantastic and inevitably it will end badly between manager club and fans but success is extremely likely under Jose Mourinho.

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12 Feb 2018 12:38:44
And yes Steve, our 'humpa lumpa' football works as a delight when it comes off like it did when we beat you 3-1 in your own backyard. 'Maureen' is a million miles behind Pep yet still ahead of the chasing pack, we can admit we're nowhere near as good as City right now but you hate to see Spurs doing better than your lot, if Jose's taken us back what has Wenger done to your club? Back to the era of dinosaurs but hey, least you play 'attractive' football even though your team can't defend, conceded more goals than West Brom right? 😂🤣🤣.

And talking of youth, lovely to see Bellerin and Iwobi doing this well, your youth system is a joke, not a single decent player to come out of it in years yet you have the cheek to take aim at Jose, who's won more in his career than your club has in 2/ 3 decades. Enjoy Europa league football next season hehe. By the way enjoy Mkhitaryan and thanks for Sanchez, try convincing yourselves you got the better deal, ta ra!

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12 Feb 2018 12:38:59
Mourinho won’t win the prem with united! And I believe you have lost with that McTominay in your side. Utter drivel and united would have been better off with ozil than Sanchez . I personally think you need a better striker. Lukaku is awful and is like a slightly better heskey. He can bulldoze naff defenders but has a discracefull touch and gets owned by any half decent defender. De Gea rescues united more often than not. I agree about him not getting into city side for reasons mentioned by stoner but will admit he’s the best shot stopper in world football. Has it been that long since OT saw swashbuckling football and the chants of attack attack attack that you really think that boreinho is going to get you back to the top? If that’s the case I think you need to tell the rest of the numptys at OT to get behind him and start chanting defend defend defend or in a Manchester accent shout get out the buzz and park it over her 🤣🤣🤣.

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12 Feb 2018 12:57:07
Lost with 'that' McTominay in our side? Nice to see a youth player getting slaughtered so soon after making his debut, so what is it? Is he crap or is Jose not giving him a chance? I'd rather have a player with drive and determination like Sanchez than a player like Ozil who throws the towel in as soon as the going get tough, mind you Ozil does fit in perfectly at Arsenal, easy going under dinosaur Wenger.

Get rid of Lukaku whos scored 10 more goals than the french Darren Bent (Laca) , and yes i agree with you about him getting owned by any half decent defender, flat track bully who rolled over Mustafi and Koscielny at the emirates👋🏻.

Imagine saying 'boreinho' how old are you? 10? The same 'boreinho' who beat you 6-0 in 2014 right? How does it feel seeing thet many empty seats the emirates Sanogo? Week in week out. Maybe you'd be a better team if your fans didn't idolise that overrated midfielder in your profile pic.

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12 Feb 2018 13:09:52
Mate Ederson is a great shot stopper too, much as you might not like to admit that.

He has been a fantastic addition for them and his overall game gets him in ahead of De Gea as much as you clearly hate that thought.

It’s highly likely you are going to get overtaken by Spurs, Liverpool and Chelsea whom you play next.

I’ve looked at your squad on the United website and it really doesn’t make good reading mate.

De Bruyne makes Pogba look a total donkey and was what, half the price.

I appreciate we all won’t to believe our club is fab but truth is we are beyond poor but for the money you’ve spent you’re shocking despite what the table currently tells you. I’m

You speak of your youth but like Bellerín they have to produce more than a few months and the only one who currently looks to have half a chance is Rashford. Martial is another Memphis Depay and Lingard had hit a 5 minute purple patch but now what.

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12 Feb 2018 13:12:49
18, i'm talking about your club not mine, don't tell me about mine, i can do that truthfully myself without any bias. I've obviously touched a nerve. We are going nowhere with wenger and you are going nowhere with utd. Last season for you was massive but winning the EL and cariboo cup for man u in reality is as big as it will get for you under maureen, he's a ypunger version of wenger, his style is dated and he's been found out by younger more dynamic managers. i'm happy he is your manager. And spurs don't bother me, my team bothers me.

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12 Feb 2018 13:14:50
Sano utd without de gea would be in 6th with us. That is plainly obvious. There fans or at least some still can't see, the wood for the trees.

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12 Feb 2018 13:18:40
18 you are the worse team in the top five. But your money might just scrape you top four.

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12 Feb 2018 13:23:44
De Bruyne makes Pogba look like a donkey? didn't your fans say Xhaka is better than Pogba last season? I just don't see how you can judge Pogba when he's being played out of position like this, he's never played deep in his career, always close to a No.10 role. Like putting a player like Coutinho deep in midfield and then saying 'ah he's a poor player, not good enough etc. ' When Pogba is utilised right he's fantastic

Martial is another Depay? In what way? he's 22, plays on the left wing which is not his natural position, and still has 12/ 13 goals and a number of assists. Lingard has been and always will be a squad player, his purple patch came at the right time of the season, don't expect him to be in the team week in week out and he's scored more goals than Lacazete and Morata this season.

I still think we'll finish second, we won't finished behind Spurs and Lpool, chelsea won't get top 4 either.

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12 Feb 2018 13:26:12
18 this was a post about your team, you are turning round to have a dig at ours and compare. don't bother mate some of us are well aware what our manager is doing. We have our eyes wide open and our head put of the clouds.

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12 Feb 2018 13:36:22
A younger version of wenger, dated style, he won the league in 2015? What has pochettino won? Or the last time Klopp even won a trophy? If we were the worst team in the top 5 we wouldn't be 2nd and yes without De Gea maybe we would be 6th, but where would Liverpool be this season without Salah? Spurs without Kane? Chelsea without Hazard? Swings and roundabouts mate. You may be going nowhere with Wenger but we are definitely progressing under Jose, 100% sure he'll get it right here.

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12 Feb 2018 13:37:01
Out of the clouds.

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12 Feb 2018 13:52:13
Mate you are grasping at straws, De Bruyne is a fabulous player against any opposition where as Pogba is a flat track bully. Pogba is all about the hype, mostly created by your fan base which enable Juventus to get £90 million for him in the first place. You’d swap him for De Bruyne in a heart beat.

I’ve yet to see him have a great game against anyone of note.

Martial is another over hyped player, like Depay who has yet to prove anything.

And like Steve says we know exactly where our teams at but you guys are deluding yourselves into thinking you’re on the brink of something big. 🙄.

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12 Feb 2018 13:56:03
Jose's ways will never make him popular
His record with younger players is poor at best
He seems to always fall out with his employer his players or the fans (sometimes all 3 before he ends up parting on bad terms.
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He has to date always won his domestic title in any league his managed in plus numerous cups and 2 champions leagues with 2 different clubs.
Love him or loathe him his record is success everywhere and anywhere he's been. Mr popular he certainly isn't but Mr successful he has always been so far and with united he has joined the biggest club in England.
I'm no untied or Mourinho fan by any stretch of the imagination in fact I enjoy seeing Arsenal beat United more than Spurs and Mourinho more than any manager anywhere but facts are facts whether we like them or not.

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12 Feb 2018 14:09:26
18, its about timing, three years after wengers last title some people started to pick up on his frailties against younger managers with more variations on style and ideas. Like i say i'm happy for maureen to be your manager, you will win cups with him but the league is a dream with him, he is a one way, one dimensional manager and his ways are out dated. I hope you keep him for 20 years.

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12 Feb 2018 14:14:42
Didnt you try to sign Martial? And talking of overrated how is Lacazette getting on? Or Mkhitaryan? Xhaka? Koscielny? Bellerin? Cech?

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12 Feb 2018 14:17:42
Plus my truthfull opinion, you didn't need sanchez at all, mata, martial, myki, lingard, rashford, lakaku for the time being should have been adequate and more progressive. Your problem was a couple of ball plaing CBs and a creative midfielder. But maureen is blind to that and would rather have gorillas in there. Like wenger his blind spots and style are outdated.

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12 Feb 2018 14:20:41
Steve is completely right. These are responses to the actual thread. You don’t need to tell me about the short comings of Arsenal and I agree with the points you say about arsenal! So that’s me, stoner, g62 and steve not deludid! How about you? Still stand by the nonsense in your piece? Pacey attacking football with youth as the backbone a real return to the class of 92 with mourinho at the helm ✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

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12 Feb 2018 14:41:11
You are now thrashing around like a beached whale grasping for air.

We’ve all said how bad we are under Wenger we’re not trying to big anyone or anything up relating to our team.

It’s not just you mate, you had everything under Fergie but that era has long gone.

You are now throwing 100’s of millions at trying desperately to get back to former glory but despite your attempts to believe the opposite, it’s simply not happening.

Mourinho lost his way at Chelsea and you signed him up out of desperation. Pep is totally whooping his butt and you and others are whining on your page about him constantly because City are so far in front of you.

It makes for embarrassing reading mate but each to their own.

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12 Feb 2018 15:18:04
I couldn’t agree more stoner . It’s been a while since I’ve met a gooner who doesn’t know the crack about the goings on at our club. These united fans that think mourinho is going to take them to the top in this current climate are living in cloud cuckoo land. Here’s a little formula
Wenger = no chance
Mourinho = no chance

Only real difference is that once in a while arsenal treat their fans, whilst week in week out united fans get treated to bangers and mash football 😂.

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12 Feb 2018 15:18:27
18, wat are you telling us about things we know, its THE things YOU can't see that is your problem.

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12 Feb 2018 16:36:43
In summary steve. I thought the article lacked integrity and common sense. But to be fair I thought it was well written and the grammar and punctuation were ok! I’m not expert on that but if RG is around and wouldn’t mind casting an eye over it I’m sure it will receive a more in depth analysis.

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12 Feb 2018 17:10:42
Arsenal fans talking about common sense😂😂😂😂😂.

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12 Feb 2018 18:43:35
Thar she blows. Il put a bit less bait out next time 😂😂.

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11 Feb 2018 23:02:47
{Ed's Note - punani gooner has posted a new article entitled, Arsenal Need a Revolutionary Head Coach

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11 Feb 2018 23:36:38
Very good post.

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12 Feb 2018 10:31:39
I think as we showed last season and again this season v Chelsea ove 2 legs our team is very capable of getting up cup games that require one big effort and performance rather than the marathon that is the premier league.
Manchester city in the semi final then Chelsea in the final it's self saw a very different Arsenal to the one we saw throughout the season in the league.
My personal guess as to why is the players are capable of motivating and organising themselves in big games but just can't find it in themselves to collectively get up for a 38 games.
Arsene for what ever reason just can't motivate organise manage this group of players which has been apparent for years as results against weaker and stronger opponents alike have shown repeatedly.
The cups the players sort themselves out for the league? Rudderless ship most of the time.

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12 Feb 2018 10:32:34
Thanks Dag.

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11 Feb 2018 23:36:38
Very good post.

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11 Feb 2018 20:26:42
Come on, own up.

Who reset Mhiki to MUFC mode?

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11 Feb 2018 20:52:43
Over excited by his first game and over worrying his second I think mate.
Against a poor Everton he looked outstanding and against a very good Spurs he looked poor but I suspect he will settle down somewhere in the middle overall.

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11 Feb 2018 21:27:41
Agree, people were going overboard about the everton game and the reason we looked so good was because everton had a bad day. The reason spuds looked so good yesterday was because we had a bad day. Over the next few months their levels will show. I expect myki and auba to be big players for us but not maybe this season. Its not ideal joining a club in the middle of a season, especially when it is as poor as it is at the moment. The team is porous at the moment and until that is addressed we will not be consistent. I want us to win the league cup and the EL but for obvious reasons, it may be a god send to finish 6th and win nothing, for the good of the club. Better the surgery is done sooner before it gets to the stage an operation is too late.

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11 Feb 2018 21:36:47
G62, here's hoping mate.

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11 Feb 2018 22:59:50
Good post Steve 👍👍.

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12 Feb 2018 01:34:29
72 mate, Against spurs the team as a whole was poor.

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12 Feb 2018 11:14:22
Moe you just made me 10 years younger so I'm happy to agree with anything and everything you say today mate:-)
I actually do agree mate the team as a whole were poor but I think people were looking at the contrast between the new Irish lads first and second games which were both at opposite extremes.
I'm sure he will have some very good games and some pretty invisible ones too that seems to be his way.

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11 Feb 2018 13:42:22
{Ed's Note - shawthing has posted a new article entitled, Complications with a European Super Champions League

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11 Feb 2018 12:43:47
Fair play to dags and Steve for being big boys and taking their loss on the chin and showing up like the honest poster's they are unlike R. G. who I now call Gulliver as everytime spurs give arsenal the runaround he goes travelling and fails to show up on his beloved page. Onto yesterday and the problem for Arsenal they lack real leaders and will concede goals every match but you are only 2 or 3 players away from getting it right, I think if you had dembele and alderwereld from spurs that would make you a very good side as that's where you are losing games for me. It's 1-1 this season between us with you lot giving us the runaround at the emirates but top 4 looks very tough for you lot now but I think you will win the Europa league and qualify that way.

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11 Feb 2018 14:12:47
you's well deserved the win yesterday and to be honest we are lucky you's didn't win by 4 or 5
we have for many years been 2 or 3 good players away from getting it right, as for leaders i would say wilshire is the only player who truly plays for the badge
can't see us winning the eurpoa league either

can;t believe we are actually worse than when we had the likes of gervinho, chamakh, andre santos and bendtner.

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11 Feb 2018 15:10:53
I think it’s also a bit of other teams getting better.

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11 Feb 2018 15:51:10
"Gulliver" 🤣🤣.

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11 Feb 2018 17:04:59
Football has moved on from the days where Arsenal and Utd chased top 2 places.
People say utd Chelsea and City's money buys them titles but I think that's only half the story, the premier league is much much more competitive now than in Arsene hey day successful period and if money was the only issue how come Spurs and Liverpool have leap fogged us pushing us further than ever away from competing.
The fact is with no George Graham influence to buold from and more competition Arsene has found his level.

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11 Feb 2018 17:54:46
Raver, you know we love you, cough cough. We need a new manager and until that time we won't go forward. Not a lot we can do. You need 4th or it will be bad for you as well but you are in a better position to do that than us that's for sure.

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11 Feb 2018 18:25:14
Be interesting Steve as I think both Conte and Poch need a top 4 finish to be certain of keeping their jobs and obviously Liverpool look like making that difficult if not impossible to happen for both managers to achieve.

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11 Feb 2018 21:30:08
I think that a a very fair assessment raver. Both teams have attacking talent, but for me the real difference was Dembelle, who dominated the midfield and drove Spurs forward. It seems the entire world can see we need a strong, physical central midfielder except Wenger. You guys have both Dembelle and Wanyama, both strong players who aren't going to be bullied. Other managers see the importance of this type of player with both Chelsea and Man Utd committing decent cash on their central midfielders, and even Man City use Fernandinio as the holding midfielder. What's even more perplexing is that Wenger had arguably the greatest central midfield partnership in the history of the premiership so far in Viera and Petit, and got to see the benefits it offered. Yet today he now prefers technical players who get dominated by better, stronger players. I can only imagine what a field day Viera and Petit would have had against Xhaka and Elneny! I have again just watched Kongobia play superbly for Valencia, let's hope Arsene was watching, but then again, he doesn't seem to see the benefit of midfield any more.

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11 Feb 2018 11:38:26
{Ed's Note - LFCTexas has posted a new article entitled, I would be a massive proponent of a legitimate Champions League

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11 Feb 2018 08:52:30
Yesterday was shocking and once again it shows Wenger seemed 2 of biggest faults his loyalty to players that aren't good enough and his handling of his signings. I say his signings because he has told us often enough it's he who decides who comes who . Next 3 games are massive and if we donth come thru them then quite frankly I don't see any option then for him to go now and I mean NOW! .
Just like to mention about Spurs. They are moving in the right direction and Pochettino is doing a good job but I honestly believe that the Real Madrid job is out of his league. That's not a dig just a honest opinion. Secondly Harry Kane is a great striker but I did not think he was m. o the match yesterday I thought Erik send was.
Take care people.

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11 Feb 2018 10:08:07
As we stand we are on target for 63pts in 38 games, it's shocking how far behind we keep falling each year.
All clubs have bad patches bad runs bad seasons but we are the only club in the world that doesn't try and turn it around but simply carty on season after season slowly declining and pretending it's not happening.

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11 Feb 2018 18:13:05
Wenger cant, won't, doesn't want to see he is taking more away from this club, now, than he is giving. He will never walk away, even if we got relegated, he'd think he was the best man to get us back. The club are going to have to grow some and tell him he's surplus to requirements and it can't come soon enough. The guy has always blamed everything in sight but never sees his faults. That is dangerous and disturbing.

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11 Feb 2018 22:52:00
Heybridge gooner, i think you are underestimating pochettino. He is a really good coach and my guess is that if Unai Emery doesn't win the champions league, pochettino will take over as he is an ex psg player and they wanted him before they went for Unai. Pochettino won't be at spurs for long. That i can bet my money on which should be good news for us!

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11 Feb 2018 23:29:46
Punani, with due respect, poch at spurs or not, is not good news. We need to take care of our own house and i'm not too bothered about others.

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12 Feb 2018 10:42:04
I respectfully disagree with you steve. we should be worrying about other teams because how they perform affects us. If Liverpool and spurs were having a worse season than us, we would probably be in the top four. What i am hinting at is that they are above us not because they have better squads, but because they have better coaches.

We have been stuck with wenger for so long that we have been left behind. He should have gone ages ago. The way he regressed us is so much that we need to get a really good coach in. If we go for someone like Allegri, i am preety sure we would probably challenge for the title. Italian coaches do well when they come to the premier league. Mancini, conte, ancelotti all won titles.

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Review Of The Day 11th February 2018

11 Feb 2018 06:00:26
{Ed's Note - Tris Burke has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 11th February 2018

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11 Feb 2018 10:34:40
Raver, you stated on live chat "if Chelsea and Liverpool win, Arsenal will be 14 points off 4th" how did you work that out? The answer is 8 points Raver! Classic example of spurs fans trying to make something look better for them, just like when they released a DVD when they finally beat Chelsea and Arsenal for the first time in years! Or the DVD when Spurs finally finished above Arsenal for the first time in 2 decades! LMAO.

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11 Feb 2018 13:22:41
I know what sounds better wodbod, is that we ended your faint hopes of champions league football yesterday, as for making DVDs for beating Arsenal, we stopped that years ago as you haven't beat us away for years in the league lol. When arsenal tv were doing their deluded interviews outside Wembley I drowned them out in the Subaru with beeping my horn constantly.

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Premier League Match Preview Sunday 11th February 2018

11 Feb 2018 02:17:17
{Ed's Note - Tris Burke has posted a new article entitled, Premier League Match Preview Sunday 11th February 2018

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