Arsenal Banter Archive January 11 2013

11 Jan 2013 22:41:40
Have been told tonight David Beckham to sign for Arsenal. Strange but maybe true, the odds appear to be dropping.

I actually thought about this the other day, but the thought of all the abuse from no signing off posters made me not bother posting it lol

1404

Same here, 1404. Becks on a short term without taxing the hell outta our wage bill doesn't seem too bad on the eyes. sure, he's not the best or on top of his game right now but as an impact player, i don't think it'd be as bad as, say, getting Gervinho on.

psychocyst.

Up until 5 years ago would have been a magic signing. But I've also heard were bringing back Paul Marinello also.

11 Jan 2013 21:59:13
Arsenal have a transfer budget of 50m but there doesn't seem to be any concerted effort to actually sign anyone. Arsene Wenger has said that he will be active in the transfer window but it seems that we will miss out on transfer targets to other clubs because the club just doesn't seem to try hard enough to land transfer targets.

11 Jan 2013 21:36:37
Hey gooners - I don't think I've ever seen 100+ agrees or disagrees to a post on this site?

Obviously this post isn't worthy of such a feat, but perhaps with the next Malaga guff a concerted effort could reach that total?

rubbishs and giggles

;)

11 Jan 2013 21:35:57
don't think theos gonna sign i think zaha will be signed because walcotts just been checking his options and he decided we are, not the best thing for him, wenger said he expects him to sign by end of january, what's taking so long, i smell a rat and i think wenger knew he wouldn't renew his contract.

ty.1

11 Jan 2013 21:11:09
there has been links to szalia from mainz for 20 million euros but mainz have said no

11 Jan 2013 20:15:53
Get a grip you lot. Yes it's frustrating - but seriously some of the names you are putting forward are desperate. Aim higher.

11 Jan 2013 18:34:42
Could it possibly be were either keeping our cards very close about signing players? or Wenger has already agreed to step down or up in the summer so funds are being saved till then? Just a thought sign up the current younger players on long deals to create a base for the incoming manager and leave the money in the kitty till summer so its there for him to use as he sees fit?

Holmesy

No, because without signing we arnt finishing 4th or above so it will leave the 'new manager' in a even worse situation. Anyway Wenger ain't leaving for a while unless he manages to get us relegated.

11 Jan 2013 17:36:31
Ed is there any known interest from us for Wesley Sneijder. Or what chance do we stand at luring him here, bbc reporting his agent is attempting to make a late deal to the premier league rather than join the Turkish league, so he would obviously take less wages than at galatasaray, so I'm thinking 120k will be more than enough to tempt him and he wouldn't have much of a fee to pay either, what's our chances? Could be a real gem {Ed027's Note - not a chance

Hello, United fan in peace for a change...

He's obsessed with money, that's why there isn't a queue trying to sgn him. Great player, questionable attitude. Don't touch him.

AJH

11 Jan 2013 08:03:48
Dear Ed,

Any news on Victor Wanyama? Normally we are not very keen on spending but the Lad and Fellaini would complete the Arsenal Squad. Wenger needs to do something for the fans and this looks to me like the perfect thing to do right now! {Ed027's Note - just intrest, i think im right in sayinh he's signed a new deal or will do

11 Jan 2013 15:53:13
Just to come away from all the transfer talk, has anyone seen the leaked adidas arsenal home and away kits? Can the Ed's or anyone confirm if these or a hoax, or possibly true, either way what are everyones thoughts?

Motion14

The Arsenal should never wear white. In the words of sir Ben Kingsley In sexy beast. "NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!"
Flybo

White was our original away colour

11 Jan 2013 15:18:11
We won't be signing anyone as usual. i think we should stop posting rubbish and wishful thinking and go back to FIFA/PES for a better transfer window.
Arsene is a typical manager and he manages expectations. at the beginning of a window he promises possible signings, which then go to only signings of super quality and then it goes to we will buy only if we are short.
its the same pattern every window and we should be use to it ny now.

doesnt stop me from looking at this site and wishing

11 Jan 2013 14:53:17
Buy some world class players Mr or leave our club sick of hearing all this BS day in day out about who we ain't buying he MUST by players now otherwise we won't have a chance in he'll making top 4.Sick of it!!!!!!

11 Jan 2013 14:29:58
EDs, what are the realistic consequences of finishing outside the top 4?

I ask because this would be something very new for us Gunners.

Of course there's the loss of revenue etc. but how detrimental would this be to our organization in the short/long-term?

Personally I believe we will be in the Champions league next year, but Im curious to hear your thoughts. {Ed002's Note - The club will not budget to be in the CL every year so it will not have a significant impact if just a year was missed.}

11 Jan 2013 14:01:01
Whats the problem with all gunners when theo was not signing contract then saying sign him quickly now saying he doesnt deserve it.

The fuss is that he's a good player who has potential to be very good, maybe even great.. but if players want to hold the club at ransom that's not going to go over well with the fans.. plus we've been losing our best player every year and don't want that to continue.. even though he's not our best player that would have to be either wilshere carzola podolski

Trinidad-Gooner

11 Jan 2013 13:53:08
I was lacerated as a pessimist in late December for saying Arsenal would sign no one in January. If the club does sign anyone it will be by the skin of their teeth. Wenger is being hampered by not being given the tools to do the job. He does not play on the field, that is, make defensive errors or miss simple chances. He has a proven track record of winning with Arsenal so he hardly became a bad manager over the past seven or eight years.

Wenger is over-performing with a limited budget that is once again being exposed during a transfer window when we clearly badly need players just to qualify for Champions League. I am not moaning or giving out but simply stating facts. Arsenal are in a good financial state (i.e. stable) but it is becoming clear they are way off competing for the League unless Stan Kroenke has a sudden change of heart.

The summer, which I think will see us just outside the Champions League (hope it's not true but current form is against us), will be the true indicator of whether the board are happy with things as they are or are willing to push on to better things.

Stewart

We were told he has substantial funds to spend in January but HE has decided against investing it when there clearly is REAL talent available in this market. As for being a top manager. He used to be a forward thinker yet now his ideas and ideals do not work. Football has changed while Wenger has remained the same. If Wenger is unwilling to change (even a simple idea as not using zonal marking) then he must go. We need a forward thinking manager who is willing to spend (even if it is over the odds).
Chess

Ppl always saying we won't qualify for CL and we always do.. completely agree that we are overachieving and have been for the last few years but that is part of the genius that is arsene wenger.. i think we will make one marquee signing and place fourth.. good times are ahead.

Trinidad-Gooner

11 Jan 2013 13:27:25
Lets face it... We won't sign anyone let alone any big players.. The best we can hope for is Theo to sign a new contract

Honest Gooner

There are no big name players currently available, and won't be until the summer.
Think about it.... why would clubs let there best players go mid season ?

Lets face it..... you are negative...... you know nothing.......and these type of posts are a waste of time.

The signs are there that we WILL sign players, we have moved on two squad players in vital positions to make room.

I don't know who, what, how or why, but expect two people coming in before the end of the month. not hopeful, just realistic.

psychocyst.

11 Jan 2013 13:13:28
Lads I think it's time to lay off Ramsey and show the man some love. I know he's been frustrating but he still has world class potential I truly believe that. It can't be easy being going from first team starter and captain of Wales to a bit part player at his age, I believe if he has the opportunity to play a string of games in his favoured position that's we would have the player we expected so much from back. I believe he will be a huge player for us going forward along side jack and dominate midfields for years! Come on lads lets get behind him he's one of us!

I'm sick of hearing the word potential. We have been waiting for potential to come to fruition for the past 7 years god damn it, and when they do they get poached by the money bag clubs of the premier league.

I expect him to settle into Arteta's role next season or so unless we get a replacement by then. either that or Wenger keeps playing him so far out wide on the wings that he flies straight outta the stadium and the club.

psychocyst.

Even Wales realised he was not ready to lead them just like he is not ready to start for Arsenal. Loan him out like Miyachi and Frimpong have been, like Wilshere was in the past as he needs to play every game in the prem. Then we can see if he still has the potential to play for us. For me he has never looked like a world class player but now he looks like a League 1 player.
Chess

Chess that's a poor comment, he was too young plus devastated by the death of the manager

11 Jan 2013 12:59:19
how many more players is wenger not going to buy.
it clear wenger wants the mortgage of 35m paid first per year the highly paid wages next.

So why is wenger a football manager and not a director... seems more interested in that than winning trophies

clearly with the loan deals AFC are preparing financially not to get top 4 position this season.

So less and 2 signing if fans are lucky

How is it possible to 'not' buy a player that you don't want?

11 Jan 2013 11:55:01
I think the game this weekend is probably our pivotal moment of the season. I really do think if we could get a win from our next three games then we will be far more confident and it could really spur us on! (Sorry to such such a dirty word in a positive sentence!)

One thing we haven't mentioned on here yet is that City will be without the Toures so I think we could take advantage of that. Chelski will also be without there African contingent, so here's for hoping!

Come on you Gunners!

Sally

I like it, Sally!

There's nothing stopping us from grabbing 9 pts from 9, and taking care of those unruly swans (no disrespect i think they've been brilliant) while we're at it.

COYG!

11 Jan 2013 14:43:57
Yaya will be a miss plus I think 2 others including Aguero, Chelski will only be missing Moses as far as

11 Jan 2013 11:36:43
The article on Arsenal.com about Wenger and our two january priorities basically says:

-We will consider injured players returning as solving our problems

-We are mainly working on Walcotts contract

-We don't have any particular targets that are exceptional talents

-We are not close to signing anyone, not even Walcott

-We can actually afford to buy some quality but Wenger is choosing not to

Nick.

11 Jan 2013 14:48:44
Nick,

Do you want to hug it out mate.

Stoner

P.s. Just a joke I know it's driving you nuts.

You stopped being lucid after the two first points.
So 3: We have a few "exceptional" (hard to reach) targets which means we won't sign for the pleasure of signing.
4: We are not close enough to sign someone to talk about it, except for Walcott.
5: We can actually afford to buy some quality, and Wenger is working on it, but probably don't want to look desperate because it would level up the prices.

Same text, different interpretations.

I do understand angry fans, don't misunderstand me, but some of us seem to lose their brains. So medieval...

Stan

11 Jan 2013 10:33:11
I believe Coquelin should play more games, as people say Wilshere, Arteta and Carzola are all the same type, small flair passers, yes Arteta sits back more but i think his performances has fallen and he just isn't psysically strong, Coq is all over the ptich (good way) he puts in good defensive work, and he is also attact well. Recalling back to Bradford he was unlucky to hit the post. Sayin this, Diaby is back soon and no doubt he should start, but when out is should be Coquelin.

We need to revert to Wenger's successful fluid 4-4-2 formation, with a copule of tall athletic central midfield players, in the mould of Vieira, Gilberto & Petit.

If Coquelin strings together some DOMINANT performances then that will take a lot of pressure off of Wenger and our midfield as well.

I just don't know if he has it in him. Maybe he does? Tough to say at this point, but if Wenger thought he had the next Viera in Le Coq he would be getting more game time.

11 Jan 2013 10:21:57
Don't get me wrong, I hate SAF but his handling of RVP has been almost perfect.

We used to need RVP on the pitch for a full 90mins or would suffer with second-gear syndrome and slow attacking play, but SAF knows this isn't the way to treat a star player and will deploy him as a sub.

When RVP is fouled, the whole ManU team know to get on the referee's back, to pressure for yellow cards and to protect their star striker - which makes the game easier as the clock ticks down. Arsenal's players don't do this, and hence the front players get bullied too often right until the end of the game.

I actually really liked SAF saying in an interview that he had rollocked his team for not finding RVP, like it is their fault when the pass isn't there, and RVP is blameless. There has been no talk of "time to settle in" or "getting fluid" - it is straight up talk that the midfielders job is to study RVPs movement and get the pass right for him.

I know it is early days but this is the first player of any sifgnificance that has left Wenger's Arsenal for SAF's ManU, and you have to admit it has shown AW up to be very far behind in aspects of player management and tactics.

topgunner

Totally agree!
For this whole situation to arise is absolutely scandalous. As Arsene Wenger is at the helm, he is totally negligible

Sorry mate don't care about them

How has it shown Wenger up, Van Persie had scored more goals this time last season?

Get over it, he's gone!

For god sake v Persie has gone along with Cesc, Nasri etc move forward, move on, why keep on with same old stuff over and over again, its in the past like our history, i first supported us in 1952 when we won the FA cup our next trophy was 1970, 18 years since then we have had alot of trophies, our time will come again, hopefully not as long as the 18 years i and im sure folks of my age di but it will come, patience my friends

11 Jan 2013 09:36:43
Hi Eds, What do you think the chances are of signing M'Vila, Remy, Biglia and Zaha. Or is there someone else you think they are working on? Personally think we should take Remy & Biglia {Ed013's Note - I see Zaha as a Wenger project, the others would be a fight with other clubs in this window if they become available. It all depends on how much there is to spend}

11 Jan 2013 09:06:33
Wish we'd have a go at Wesley Sneider. according to reports the contract offered by Galatasaray is aprox 100k - 115k a week.

Now whether he accepts this or not i don't know, he's currently on about 200k a week.

But he seems determined to leave Inter and Inter are determined to sell - £10mil is the asking price, and he is a world class player and he has that winning attitude we need.

Considering Arshavin is going in the summer, there's 80k a week in wages right there (thats 80k a week for 10 games this season, about £2m since match day 1 this year, so before people point at 'wage structure'as a stumbling block I'd rather we were paying £120k a week to someone who played and contributed than 80k a week on someone who sits on his arse for a living) .

So for the sake of another 40k or so a week, its got to be worth it for a creative, truley world class player who has won the champions league, serie a and la liga, as well as played in the WC final?

AG

I don't want Sneider, another small midfield player. We need Fellaini & Wanyama, to give us height, drive & grit in the centre of midfield.

Midfield should be:
Wilshere Wanyama Fellaini Cazorla.

I'd definatley go for Sneider. Iv got a feeling there is something wrong behind the scenes with him. Why aren't bigger clubs going for him. Only 28, 2 yrs ago he was almost the difference between Holland and Spain winning the World Cup

You have over simplified it a lot. Firstly Turkish tax is probably lower than ours so if this figure is correct, he would have to be paid a higher salary here to match what he receives in his pocket. Secondly if we broke our wage structure for him all the players on around 90k who were told that was the highest we were prepared to pay would want matching new deals and that would cost a lot more.

11 Jan 2013 08:56:32
I'm really trying to be patient but this window feels like the summer when we were all counting the hours down to midnight and nothing happened.

Difference now is I'm counting the days and struggling to believe anything is going to happen.

We're all going through the scenarios of what's going on behind closed doors and my recurring one is, nothing, Arsene is just carrying on as normal.

I'm hanging in there but Jesus it's painful. I just want to go into games knowing we can really compete again and I mean really compete.

Stoner

U are competing stoner, with liverpool for europa league football, i must say its strange seeing you on here, normally ure on our page talking tripe or more recently over on liverpools page sucking up to the scousers, wonder wot all your fellow gooners think of you sucking up 2 them it just looks desperate tbh and shows a strangle light on all the other faithful gooner fans
Chris the REDman

Chris REDboy, normally at this point we would say go away, but nice of you to drop by.

I would say you are a one man team this season with the clog wearing pussy being the one man, but all credit to your manager, Rudolf. He has managed yet again to dominate with a team of average and ageing players, and succeeded by paying your only two decent players (pussy and shrek) 250k per week to play in your 'hole' of a city.

Van pussy WILL be injured at some point, Shrek will miss games when he needs another hair transplant and when Rudolf retires you will slide to mid table.

Now go eat some pies or whatever you do up there.

337

11 Jan 2013 15:24:04
Chris,

I would think it unlikely you'll return to read this but you really like the other girls on your page don't get it do you. Geez you are thicker than a whale omelette.

Give it time, it'll come.

Stoner.

P.s Is Cambridge a suburb of Manchester.

Touche touche stoner, did you post that on the liverpool site too?
u seem to spend most of your time on there mate.
337 YAWN!!! to bored to even entertain ure drivel mate heared it all b4 if it wernt for rvp we wouldn't be this or that blah blah get over it mate he CHOOSE to leave you to join a real big club!! if it wernt for his injurys it would of been sooner too, so id like to say a big thank you to all the GONERS for helping him get over his troubles just for him to want to realise his dreams at O.T rather than that ivory toilet you call...umm...wot was the name you sold out too again?
Chris the REDman

11 Jan 2013 07:48:47
QPR close to signing m'vila what a joke! sort it out wenger KAY9

If this is true, it means we are not interested in him. Having seen him, I am not certain he is top quality in any event. I would prefer a beast of an enforcer in midfield & would love to see Arsenal make every effort possible to sign the superb Fellaini.

If Wenger doesn't sign him, it's because he doesn't want him.
In any case, why the hell would he want to go to QPR, and play in the championship next season ?

If QPR are signing him that is because he isn't good enough for Arsenal. He is hardly an unknown so if no decent team is in for him he will probably be quite good in the Championship next season.

11 Jan 2013 06:23:01
Hi ed, I do understand arsene's predicament in this transfer window. All the names the media and we the fans throw out as possible signings, all look good on paper but in reality are they any better than what we have. Then their is the hugely inflated transfer fee(seems anyone in a pair of predators is valued at 18 million euros wanting a kings ransom in wages for him, his team of agents, his glamorous wife and don't forget the house in hampstead next to thierry please. When arsene says 'super quality' I see what he means and how difficult that is. Santi was an aqquisition that ticked all those boxes and has added real quality to the team. I would rather bring in no one than anyone( can't endure another santos, gervinho or mertesacker). I'm convinced he will bring a top top player in and respect his stance in the transfer Market. 15 million for Wilfred zaha who has played 2 mins for England and not yet played in the prem or 20 million for negredo who is 27 and didn't cut it at Madrid. Bonkers! Mo mo

In order for us to mount a challenge at the top, we need to push the boat out and sign some top notch players. We need to rip Baines & Fellaini from Everton, by offering £17m for Baines & £30m for Fellaini, with wages to match. We need a midfield enforcer & a quality striker. We can longer gamble on signing cheaper young players or risky options or we won't finish in the top four.

11 Jan 2013 05:08:50
Hey Ed,

I have question. Do you guys keep an archive of old rumors? It would be rather interesting to go back and see what rumours proved true.
Thanks,

Young Gunner {Ed001's Note - we do, not sure how extensive they are, we do archive everything, but not sure if it has all stayed intact during server updates etc. I am not involved on that side of things to know.}

11 Jan 2013 04:33:27
If michu was available for 15-20 mil would people want arsenal to sign him?

Michu was available before Swansea signed obviously now had we have signed him how many on here would have been moaning because he was not a so called BIG NAME

No - don't get me wrong he has been brilliant this season (so far) but I don't think he is good enough for Arsenal. Teams such as Barca, Real Madrid, Man you etc won't try and buy him so why should we?! We should be signing better players than that!

Id take Chamakh's one legged brother right about now im so desperate for Wenger to open his wallet and buy someone. So yes, id take michu.

How can he think our team is the best it can be if we our 6th in the table.

Two words - Clive Allen

A striker has to score goals 'regularly' not just be a one season wonder. Michu looks good but is yet to prove his worth.

Also from what I've seen of him he doesn't seem to much else for the team, which suits Swansea as they work hard behind him and counter attack.

I would rather have 5 players scoring 15 goals per season than one scoring 40

Not sure how he would fit into Arsenal. He is not good enough for the team to be built around him. He would be a bit part player like Ramsey and Rosicky and would have people moaning about how crap he is and he's not a big name and he did not cost very much.

11 Jan 2013 00:02:30
Remy, MVila, Mbiwa plus tricky winger

Happy Gooner

SY4

10 Jan 2013 23:23:43
I find it insulting on Villa's behalf that people say he's too old. Age is just a number, it's about the quality you possess and he is one of the most talented players on the planet and one of the greatest finishers ever.

He doesn't look 31 either. People need to drop this 'he's too old' chat because you have no idea what you're on about. He is an improvement on about 95% of strikers in the entire league never mind our club. Berba at 34 is an improvement on what we've got too. Stop going on about age, this guy knows how to play, has got pace and will have for a number of years yet, and when his pace starts to fade he will still have his sheer football intelligence and class. He will be a cut above for years and if he comes here we will be blessed to have him.

True but if you're 31 you'll be more prone to injury and fatigue. Personally, I would love to see him or Loic Remy in an Arsenal jersey.

Shall we sign Berbatov in 3 seasons time then? He's currently 31 years old.

Stezza.

Yes you have a point however the money that will be spent to sign him including wages sign on fees etc.. also don't forget the 16 million price tag barca have on him therefore it will just be to expensive to sign a player with not a lont term future and rvp to united is not the same for those who do he was 29 when they signed him so I think i might be the only one happy were not gna sign him
True G