Arsenal Banter Archive March 11 2013

11 Mar 2013 22:53:18
Wilshere could be out for the season

Outfor the bayern game but only rumoured for the season

11 Mar 2013 21:57:48
hello ed's who will aubeymang sign for in the summer could arsenal get him
thanks

Bergkamp5353

11 Mar 2013 18:12:36
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is set to renew his efforts to sign 21-year-old Celtic defensive player Victor Wanyama

LiamsBiz

Well I hope he plans to sell diaby so he can get cover for wanyama and not reply on diaby.

11 Mar 2013 15:13:41
It annoys me when people question my support of this team. I have my beliefs and I know I can go on about them but even I have got the point where I don't want to keep justifying why I want Wenger gone - by now you either agree or never will - what I don't understand is why people want to challenge me on my opinion or call me out as a fan? When this page was full of 'I hope we lose/don't get top 4 so the board learns a lesson' and 'Bayern are going to kill us' I was one of the ones saying 'Does anyone else here think that we can do something special against Bayern?' only to be devastated at how poor we were in light of how 'not amazing' they were.

And for the last couple of days I have watched the teams around us playing some VERY smart football and still, the only thing on my mind has been 'I bet we go to Bayern and score 4'. That's all I've been able to think about. I do believe we can go to Bayern and go through.

Funny how if I say otherwise, I am 'not showing faith' or 'not behind the team' - well realistically our champions league run is done for this year and maybe, just maybe, for several years. However, optimistically, and how I truly feel, is we can and probably will go to Bayern, win by 3 goals, and go through, because I've seen us pull that sort of thing off before. We're the Jekyll and Hide team remember. I do believe we'll get top 4. I don't believe we'll go on some mad run winning all our remaining league games, but I do believe we'll do it. And I certainly have that tingling feeling of magic when I think about the Bayern game, and I know for a fact not everyone here does.

Finally, as I was saying, I am happy not talking about why I want Wenger out in the summer ever again on these pages. It's frustrating that you posted that post Gunners4life because I really didn't want to keep talking about it.

All that's left to say is really, if you read my posts, you will see that I am giving reasons for AW's exit in terms of what I see on the pitch. Not how the club is run. All you keep doing is giving me a long-winded account of how the club is set up and run and that seems to justify in your eyes everything that goes wrong on the pitch. I have asked you so many times to tell me why you think Arsene should stay when he does the things he does. All you do is patronise me in return saying 'you listen to media hype' when that's total BS, I see what I see with my own eyes, I analyse the players performances and see the substitutions and formations for myself, so tell me what media input is there that would affect my belief that Wenger is past it as a top coach? I don't pay attention to much media stuff but I enjoy the analysis you get on MOTD and I apply my own thinking to what I have seen I don't just run with it. Yet still, all you do go on about the way the club is run and that for you is justification for all the turd we see. It isn't for me. And I know how the club is run. It baffles me that you think a good answer to 'why should Wenger stay' is 'He did wonders up until 2005 and the club is set up in a way which means he can't spend' when he has spent £100m in 2 summers. You just avoid my question and lecture me on the club set up!

I am done talking about Wenger, I don't want to annoy people with it any more, I want to get behind the team and manager and focus on that little magic feeling I get in my stomach in anticipation for each game and I don't want to be told I am less of a fan because it is my belief that Wenger is done.

Apologies to everyone I have bored with my opinion recently - I just want you all to know I really DON'T want to talk about Wenger any more so please don't aim posts at me regarding him.

Here's to a big Bayern win and a magical day in our season!

Fingers crossed.

Good post. thing is, this page is for rumours and banter, and some people think its an open space for them to post their daily blog. You have been a bit guilty of it, making it easy for people to jump on you (which I have done in the past).

Keep it short, sharp and simple. Like arsenal's passing in 2010/2011

Hey metal,

i sense your frustration and I share some of it as well because to me, everything going behind the scenes at our club just does not add up.

our owners come out and say we are in great financial shape and we have money to spend and we are set up for future success, yet we lose our best player (s) every year and then only reinvest a portion of the sales money back into the club in the form of lower quality players. we would not have even gotten monreal if gibbs didn't get injured.

yes, wenger has bought some quality players recently :carzola, podolski, monreal, and I think giroud will improve, but comparing that to what we have lost, it's not even a conversation.

i just want some honesty as to what is really going on because if we have money and are choosing not to spend it while our rivals are spending and getting better, what does that say about our club and the direction we are going in?

do we, the fans, consider profits to be more important that the football? i, for one, do not.

opinions please,

Metal 1 thing is for sure you are a fan! As a fan you have a right to voice your opinion. To me most of what you say is honest & to the point, if others don't like it tough. Keep posting it gives us all something to think about.
Sagalout

Good shout Metal Gooner, we all have our opinions and one thing I know for sure - we are all Arsenal fans. The players, the manager and the board will come and go but we will ALWAYS be Gooners. COYG
MJGooner

Metal,

I found the post that mentioned you earlier pretty self righteous and condescending if I'm honest.

Yes the guy had some valid points but the lengths he went to to defend Silent "Watch Us Slide Into Mediocrity" Stan bordered on the PR - except he can't be bothered to do any PR with Arsenal fans - and I'm not a Wenger out but completely respect your stance and feel your passion for our beloved team so keep it coming mate.

Last I checked, the only RULES on this site are governed by the Eds ( great work guys ) so express yourself mate.

And for the record, I'm £700 better off if we go through!

Real fans say their piece, Silent Stan takes his.

Appreciate the frustration Metal, but I think you'll find the frustration is equally in the other direction.

I have my opinion based on my understanding of the club. I stand firm in my support of Arsene because I believe my insight as limited in scope it is more reflective of the actual truth at the club.

Your stance while it appears to be contextualized in regards to the performance on the pitch on many occassions I have read your sentiments towards Arsene based more on assumptions than any type of fact.

While you lament being drawn into this discussion I remind you that we are in a forum of banter. A discussion will always occur when points of contention or agreement are made!

Nevertheless I have always respected both yours and Charlies passion, that remains!

Gunners4Life, In AW we trust!

11 Mar 2013 13:15:51
ive noticed 3 groups of fans that 'support' the club in there own kind of ways;

group 1 aka 'akbs'
this group I partially fall under but purely because of the way I feel we just have to roll with what's going on at the club get behind it and inject some faith and create an atmosphere for our boys. I don't fully agree with the akb terms of arsene is the be all and end off of arsenal cause like always no man is bigger then the club. but I do believe that until there is firm evidence suggesting that funds have been available to aw then for now I can only point blame at his on pitch tactics/decisions.

group 2 aka 'awo brigade'
i don't fall under this category at all because personally I really want to see the man be successful again but I can understand the frustration with the 'wenger outs' because they believe that arsene is held fully responsible for everything on and off the pitch. the big quetion is who (available) is suited to the role and what do we want out of them - quick success or long term successor?

group 3 aka 'non supporters'
this is the group that really does my nut in, this is the group where you go on to fb or twitter and you see people flying the arsenal flag on there chest writing stuff that they wanted sp*rs to beat us the other day and run away with our 4th place trophy, this is also the group who go to our 'home' and boo the players and staff if the results don't go there way. how confidence blowing do you think that is for all members of afc family? peronally it makes me angry and embarrassed (terrible fans), I know people say this is thrown around a lot but seriously if you can't support your club at its worst then seriously f-off and support sp*rs, you ain't welcome here in my book.

I stand up and applaude you. couldn't put it any better myself. BTW, I belong to Group 1.

The 'non-supporters' also known as fair weather supporters like they only turn up when were winning and boycott when were not.

I am in the AWO brigade. I know Wenger is not the only person to blame however now we have funds to spend it is his own fault for not using it. It is also Wengers fault for the diabolical tactical decisions he makes. It is Wengers fault for not using Bould's knowledge to help us actually defend. It is Wengers fault that Mertesacker plays and Ramsey is put in RB over Jenks. It is Wengers fault that his motivational skills during games are squatting and attempting to zip up his jacket. As much as I would love to see Wenger be successfual again I know in my heart that it will never happen at Arsenal.

Finally I see no problem with certain fans booing/complaining at games after we get brutalised by Bayern or embarassed by Spurs. Why not let the players and club as a whole know how dissappointed we are. If I paid £75 on a meal and it sucked I would complain so why can't I at a football match?

Chess

I think you are right and I would say I belong to group 2, I do think it's time for change for next season, I hope it happens and I am excited at the thought that it might. I think are loads of viable options for the job as well, where some fans think nobody could carry us forward with a new short and longterm plan. I would say I can't relate to those in group 1, and I would say the people who don't understand me would put me in group 3 just to be narcy but really if I could go to games I would go crazy every game win lose or draw. I get over-excited when I go watch TNS play near Oswestry in the Welsh leagues ffs. I don't agree with booing the players either, but I do understand why people do. I think if prices were different maybe this aspect of our current fans attending games would probably change. All I will say is it's happening everywhere now though - City fans boo when they aren't happy, Everton got booed off at half time against Wigan. Fellaini got booed off when he was subbed off. it's not just Arsenal fans.

Group 1 for me.

Nas

11 Mar 2013 18:45:32
the twitter generation (generally speaking) only base their arsenal frustrations on the fact that thierry henry was at his peak when they started to support the club. since we aren't invincible anymore, they are angry they didn't choose Manchester United to support.

champagne charlie for example. can you imagine if he actually verbally recited his posts down at the local pub? he'd get a slap off most arsenal fans tbh. but when you only have a keyboard and a monitor, things are easy to say.

Couldnt agree more Daniel :)

11 Mar 2013 08:13:22
Hey Ed, do you think the takeover bid will get through? I mean will we have new owners next summer?

11 Mar 2013 01:25:41
Ed is their any truth to rumours that Arsenal have got Auxerre's 19 year old striker Yaya Sanogo on a pre-contract?

Sydney Gooner

10 Mar 2013 19:27:48
Ed do you think Arsene will sign any one in the upcoming transfer window?

11 Mar 2013 13:46:42
Well obviously

10 Mar 2013 20:23:20
You gunners are so happy liverpool beat us, yet forgetting they are right on your trail. You goons havnt even been playing well and are just expecting things to happen. How utterly deluded. We have a better player in each position compared to your team. I expect us to finish 3rd and liverpool to pip you. They are much much better than you anyway and playing good football.
Arsenal fighting everton for 6th =)

COYS A'

Human nature.

lols gunner fans happy with us for beating high flying spurs.

and spurs fan applauding us even after we beat them.

so complicated we the humans. aren't we?

Sore loser dot com ^^^^

I actually like Shawcross - he's a good no-nonsence centre half with a nicy nasty streak to go with it.  
I know there's history there with Rambo but they're grown men so don't see why there should be any issues there. And before anyone gives it the old "we don't want his sort here" well we all loved Martin Keown and he used to pinch players and tread on toes and pull hair every game -Alan Shearer says he was the dirtiest player he faced.  
I'm sick of seeing players in arsenal shirts fall over and whinge everytime they get tackled. We could do with a few hard cases in there who not only stick up for themselves but their teammates aswell 
AG 

Can we have a list of your proposed better players in each position so we may have an understanding of the level of mental defectiveness you have?

ie;
Adebayor (3 Goals) - Giroud (13 Goals)
etc
etc
etc

Didn you act like you had won the league at WHL last week when you beat us?

How utterly deluded lol

2 things TMC2

1 you have picked one player adebayor who is crap, well done. 1 player

2 we beat our local rivals which is always cause for a celebration but this had the added edge of putting ypou seven p[oints behind us, so yes we were over the moon wheras you on the other hand were sick as parrots

let the good times roll

dave

Strange, so if Liverpool are on our tails as you put it, they must be on yours as well!

Seriously people knock us for thinking finishing 3rd or 4th is a trophy, but you guys just strive to finish above us.

What is it more than 50 years since you won the league? We have gone 8 seasons and are embarassed!

50 years, that's 2 generations of fans Doughnut boy!

337

Hi Dave, welcome to the site, may I just congratulate u on being just another spud who has chosen to come on to an ARSENAL forum to cry like a whiny little b**th about losing to the Pool yesterday and just another failed spud whos tried to express how superior his team is this year. of which no one here gives a flying-f! well done there gold medal for u.

firstly, what I 'asked' was for the original bloke from n17 to write a list of players superior to ours in each position but as a guideline (due to the average spud IQ being between a banana peel and a corner flag I gave you an example ie one of your weaker strikers vs one of ours). now if you want to carry out the task set for no1 (your no2 btw) then please write me the list but if not then look in the corner for a shadow and get back down where u belong!

secondly I look forward to the dvd you bring out from when you won the league in color at white fart shame last weekend, a triumph you will probably carve in stone no doubt.

peace from the light ;)

This season it reads won 1, lost 1 (5-2!).

Also you are right back in the mire now with a smaller squad who is playing more games than we are.

You may get 4th (but we will be 3rd).

Hackney Gooner

Result between the two clubs this season: 3 points apiece and 6-4 in our favour.

Look at the fixtures and then try be optimistic. if we win against swansea. taking into account nothing. we could lose that game. but if we win the pressure is back on and the game is on.

I reckon we will make up those 4 points and pip you and chelsea to 3rd if we win this saturday. that is a given.

but if we slip up this weekend I will concede that you and the chelsea muppets will make it through.

Thats football. not the end of the world. and while the spurs have a good team and a good manager. they just don't have what it takes to win a league title.

also with the europa league considerations I expect us to make it very difficult for you guys to enjoy that champions league spot. and as they say its not over until its over.

Hmm well well, we did beat spurs last sunday once for all. it was made to look like mission impossible. even man u or city games were not hyped like this

spurs are media darlings and made to look like as if they are Barcelona of epl. lol this team which they feel is as if a world beater is actually being constructed from 3 yrs now. and considering one qualification in champions league in 3-4 yrs is only thing to show for.
how on earth these guys are made to look like as something very dangerous I don't know.
and bale the best player in england? 1. getting yellow card against inter for diving. ,
2. on sunday went off the pitch for injury and came back in, in a adavance position, unmarked which is not allowed.
3. the free kick he earned was also a doubt.

DID we here this anything abt bale in media?no.

its a decent good enough team riding on a media and bale hype. nothing else.

Yup anything can happen.

as we know these are the last 10 games of the season,
the cup finals and Europe + add to that teams from bottom trying to survive so its not like, this is an easy path.

game on. anything can happen.