Arsenal Banter Archive August 12 2018

12 Aug 2018 19:45:01
Emery out same old arsenal nothing has changed.

{Ed033's Note - You're just a Crybaby :)

12 Aug 2018 20:10:29
My feelings have changed from extremely negative to optimistic so that's one thing that's changed.

12 Aug 2018 20:15:43
Gunner, i think most sensible people are of that opinion too.

12 Aug 2018 22:00:27
It won't be long till your back to your old selves boys
Now to be fair I was excited when United went 1 0 up the other night but then we went straight back to where we left off. Sit back and hope.

12 Aug 2018 22:20:07
I see a relatively tough season for us both 12 mate, it will be tough for us to break into or even challenge for top 4 and it will be tough for you to not challenge for the title but still have to watch a less than exciting United.
You will definitely make top 4 but is that enough for United, especially a non entertaining United mate? Not a dig mate just a genuine question.

12 Aug 2018 22:21:42
you need to give emery more time. As much as he wasn't my choice, he was really left with a rubbishty team. There is just little a coach can do in such a case. The buck stops with the owner. If he wants to compete, he needs to invest millions and millions into this team. Years of under investment have taken their toll.

The team needs a right back, new pair of central defenders, a box to box midfielder and two wingers. That is a minimum of five players.

12 Aug 2018 23:02:04
G 62 your right looks like we will see plenty negative football and little silly digs between manager and players just like pogba already.
It will be everyone's fault but Jose.
I will support the team but hope it's joses last year.

12 Aug 2018 23:49:44
Totally agree 12 Jose is like a sad comedian who once the biggest act in town but has now run out of good materiel and looking for someone else to blame.
United are far bigger than Jose Mourinho no matter how brilliant he once was and while he is happy to talk the talk it's always been Uniteds way to want to walk the walk, and do it with style too.
I think like you he will see this season out and be replaced.

12 Aug 2018 19:05:53
If we are playing out from the back cech is not good enough to accept and pass the football. We also have to be a lot cuter by mixing it up a bit with the balls out. Are mustaffi, socratis or bellerin good enough to do that?

12 Aug 2018 19:17:52
I think that's what Dick is trying to find out mate, not everything the manager trys will come off and not every player he gives an opportunity to will grab it with both hands but come October both Dick and us will know more than we do now.
Early changes in the second half and a lot more vocal and physical activity from Dick in the touchline than we are used to from our manager is a big plus.

12 Aug 2018 16:56:06
45 minutes into the new managers Arsenal career against the best team in England, I always thought it might take a little longer than that to put right what's been wrong for a decade.
It's not good in fact we are exactly where we were last season but that was after 22 years of planning and team building so let's give change a little bit longer before we get to disheartened.

12 Aug 2018 17:49:37
Agree gunner, for me what was sad was the performances from the serial offenders of dross performances, xhaka bellerin ozil myki and ramsey, from the experienced side. I also think the 433 formation should be binned asap.

12 Aug 2018 17:51:18
From another angle, it was a babtism of fire for Emery and this inherited squad of flakey players.

12 Aug 2018 18:07:47
Not going to slate them too much after all it was Man City who are pretty well ahead of everybody at present. Agree Though Steve Bellerin and Xahka in particular are weak links. I think a 3-5-2 would be better for us especially against the better teams.

12 Aug 2018 18:13:37
It won't get any tougher Steve that's for sure, we are not in the champions league so City are the best side we will face this season.
Chelsea away next week is obviously no walk in the park but we need to see improvement on today even if it's not dramatic improvement that produces 3pts or even 1pt it has to be better simply because Chelsea are not city.
Xhaka voted worst player by Arsenal and neutral fans alike in a fan player rating poll, no one got high marks for us, it was a mixed bag for the other players you mentioned Steve but it does seem Xhaka performance was the one everyone agreed on the most.
I can't see why people rate him but hopefully I might as the season goes on but I'm sure the team will improve more and more as the season goes on but Xhaka? He's got his work cut out to win me over personally.

12 Aug 2018 18:17:37
For me Lacazette and Aubameyang should be starting every game and Emery should be choosing one of Ramsey and Ozil. Actually was pleased with the play of the centre halves there was one very lazy play with Mustafi when he was 1 v 1 with Sterling but other than that I was actually impressed with the partnership Emery chose. It was the play of the full backs that was woeful and appalling. Guendouzi’s a nice player in the midfield but he should be playing with Torreira not Xhaka. Believe it or not I was actually kind of encouraged by the match and believe when Emery nails down a regular starting XI they’re going to be a diificult side to play against.

12 Aug 2018 18:27:56
4 4. 2 - drop Rambo and change formation against the stronger sides.

Centre midfield partnership let us down again for both goals.

Bellerin, Sokratis, Mustafi ( replace long=term ) , Need a proper left back

Ozil, Torreira, Guendouzi, Mkhitaryan

Aubameyang and Lacca.

12 Aug 2018 18:35:24
Agree Quoth Aubu and lacazette should start to develop a potential deadly partnership. I think it is too much of a luxary to have both Xakha and Ramsey starting. Torreira and Guendouzi or Elneny should start as the DM's with Ramsey further forward.

{Ed025's Note - i would have ramsey further back ryan..like on the bench..

12 Aug 2018 18:38:25
I was baffled by ramseys position in the team today, he seemed to be playing CF most of the game and did nothing, auba, myki and ozil for most of the game looked as though they didn't know where they should be. Unfortunately niles was woeful at left back, was completely found out, lich looked far better.

12 Aug 2018 18:45:20
I don’t think the starting XI will be the same against Chelsea, Laca should start, Xhaka shouldn’t, it was as difficult as it gets today.

{Ed025's Note - very tough start bambam which is just what you dont want with a new manager and new players, chelsea up next is tough as well but then you will settle i hope and we should see the team develop from there..

12 Aug 2018 18:50:23
I would have Ramsey playing deeper than that still Ed025 mate, deep in Europe Spain Germany France or Italy asap before thier window closes, if we can find a buyer.
20 million now is better than nothing next summer for a non committed showboat player who thinks he's much better than he really is.

{Ed025's Note - i want to argue with you mate...but i cant..

12 Aug 2018 18:53:50
Yeah Steve AMN was targeted for sure today but it is not his fault he is not LB but having both our usual LB's out left us hamstrung in that sense. Torreira has to be starter now. Agree Ramsey does not seem to know what role he fits into. If Xakha is to play he should be further forward and have Torriera and Elneney/ Guendouzi as the the two DM's then Miki, Ozil and Xhaka or Ramsey ahead in the 3 behind Both Aubu and Lacazette drop the fullbacks and go 3 at the back. Bellerin is weak link and needs dropping have a back 3 of Monreal (Kos when he is back) Mustafi and Sokratis. Leno should be given a chance as number 1.

12 Aug 2018 21:44:37
Banbury, i not only think the personnel will change, i think myki will be changed, i think torreira will play and i think the formation will have to change. It wouldn't surprise e to see lich start, left or right back.

12 Aug 2018 10:01:37
{Ed's Note - Reid the Red has posted a new article entitled, Premier League Matches Preview 12 August 2018

12 Aug 2018 00:34:44
Whatever happens today, i won't draw any conclusions, its too early and while a win would be great, a loss isn't the end of the world. Perspective is needed and a bit of patience. Patience with wenger had worn thin but we must give Dick some time to make us consistent. I still think we will struggle for a while in the league but the europa dopa is what we can target. Its a long long season. 1-1 today is my prediction.

12 Aug 2018 03:15:34
About as tough an opening two matches as we could get. I will be happy if we avoid defeat today and would take a 1-1 draw now!

12 Aug 2018 08:17:41
I agree 100% Steve, should we beat City today we won't suddenly become challengers and the same if we get beaten we won't suddenly become mid table struggles.
We are most people's and the bookies underdogs of the big clubs for a reason so this season is all about improvement and making sure we go into next season a little more fancied than we are right now.
Today is all about getting our first real look at life under Dick and getting a glimpse of what to expect from him and the team regards shape effort performance, a point would be brilliant and 3 an unbelievably brilliant start.
My prediction 1 2 unfortunately but I've never been a top match day tipster.

12 Aug 2018 09:40:35
Agreed but that’s why I am a little frustrated with Emery already as I wanted him to revamp the back 5 plus spine completely and use his “getting used” to the EPL” to bed HIS team in. We didn’t need a 25m goalie but we do need a better CD, CM options, Winger and a fullback.
The fullback (34 and a freebie ) is not a great long term solution nor is the centrehalf especially with where Kos is in his career plus Mustafi. I just think he scratched the surface and implemented an OK strategy having clearly identified the issue. That’s not great management and not as decisive as Wenger in his first few years. I will give him time, support and patience but I don’t think he has taken full advantage of the situation and done enough.
If we had 100m - why Dembele and not a world class CD. If we were truly After another - why leave it so late. If we had the funds - get it done. We should have signed an EPL CD.

12 Aug 2018 09:52:29
I am excited and really looking forward to seeing the NEW arsenal under Emery and also just seeing the Arsenal play.

Let’s not undersell ourselves - we’ve got a great attack and added two midfield GEMS that should change us completely in midfield - hopefully we get the real Özil in the new system.

Aubameyang- golden boot ( already put my bet on) . This Guy is awesome and the sort of signing we need at the back.

Hopefully we see

Bellerin, Sokratis, Mustafi, Maitland-Niles

Torreira, Guendouzi

Rambo, Ozil, Mkhitaryan

Aubameyang

COYG! We are all 100% behind you.

12 Aug 2018 10:04:39
Get the excuses in early.

12 Aug 2018 10:19:14
I see where your coming from SY mate and if it was me in charge I would have done things differently too but maybe Dick is going to work with the players he has for a season then replace big time once he is fully aware of those he can and can't improve, which would explain the quick fix just for now signings.
To me a keeper wasn't top of the to do list either but it was certainly on the list as Cech wasn't brilliant last season.
There are players I would have let go who Dick has kept on and players like Campbell and Chambers who I would have kept in my squad that Dick has let go but we all see things differently and the most important thing is with Dick we have hope again that things might improve for us however he goes about doing it.
I know you miss Arsene mate but under him we were going nowhere but backwards in the end and just imagine the total apathy there would be surrounding the club again going into this season and more empty seats and a totally negative vibe at Arsenal and totally negative vibe about Arsenal from everyone everywhere.
Change brings hope mate and the club needed both change and some hope desperately because fans been slowly giving up and losing interest in the club for years while others were rapidly drifting away through lack of all and any hope of anything ever changing under Arsene mate.
Arsene is the greatest manager we have ever had beyond doubt but in the end he was making optimism an impossibility for far too many people to find within themselves.
I can't think of a nice way of saying this but in the end Arsene was toxic for Arsenal football club and I know that sounds horrible but it's unfortunately true.

12 Aug 2018 10:41:26
62 mate - I am more than happy with the change and how the club handled it. Very classy. I don’t miss him - i wanted bigger change once he left.
On the keeper - hindsight could show it’s a steal and genius signing.
Centre halves - we look short on numbers, pace and quality.
Fullbacks - Wellbeck? Really

When I sign up for change - I want to see it. For me changing the personnel is the easier bit than changing our mentality and defensive spine.
I am repeating myself but wanted to stress I don’t miss Wenger ( still admire him ) but I wanted the same decisive change Wenger brought in his first season. We were ruthless on / off pitch and strengthened well in key areas. That’s my yardstick although if we get to the same result ( we’ll balanced competitive team ) in the same timeframe eg like Klopp then job done. 👍.

12 Aug 2018 10:55:15
I’m excited and looking forward for todays game, I want performance and fight from the team today and as everyone been saying a win would be awesome and a loss would ruin my day.
I hope we start with auba and Lacca today that would make city think twice about opening up too much.

12 Aug 2018 11:21:34
Yeah sorry SY mate I'd replied to your fist post before I read your second one which made my reply look a bit silly :-) all standard stuff:-)
Hey ho it's all good mate and as you say Up the Arsenal.

12 Aug 2018 12:09:36
No worries buddy 👍 all Gooners with the same dream! 🏆🏆.