Arsenal Banter Archive March 12 2015

12 Mar 2015 20:27:13
Haven't posted for a while, been annoyingly busy (obviously made time to watch chelsea crash out of Europe) and was wondering what everyone thought of the shift in power, english football used to be seen as the pinocle of world football, finalists in the champions league in 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 11, and 12. Amazing stats, but in the last few years there's been huge inconsistency in the challengers for top 6 and even the winners/ runners up still struggle against the best from Germany/Spain.

For me it has been coming, we haven't been the best for a few years, money has taken over and egos rule the roost, one year United are winning the league and the next they're 7th! Liverpool coming 2nd then having a massive divebomb before having another resurgence, city again crashing out in Europe, Everton being dragged down to the depths and Southampton somehow stayed in the race for a very long time.

Apart from Dortmund, the german league looks very consistant, Bayern of course, being Bayern. And Wolfsburg and shalke making good young exiting teams, inter seem on the way back and milan look past the worst of their troubles, while PSG stay 2nd in the league they beat the team we thought untouchable in our "great league"

Always makes me think, is there a reason? When will our hype finally die down and the French league chirp up again, they're doing well so far!

So what does everyone think? Sorry if the post makes hardly any sense guys! Very tired haha! Nice to be back.

12 Mar 2015 22:39:57
Welcome back akie mate, the premier league as the most commercial sellable league has a life span much as the Italian league had, our bubble will burst as all bubbles do.
In 2006 most thought a global recession was impossible but the higher things fly the heavier they crash, France or Germany's turn next me thinks.
The European super league? Its Esperanto and will never get going.

13 Mar 2015 02:46:51
Because of the huge television deals, the Premier League will still attract top players.
The problem with the Premier League is the style of football that is played. It is the same reason that the national team fails so spectaculary. There is still far too much emphasis on a physical game. The German & Spanish leagues can match the English physical aspect, but have more skillfull players. In Germany they have a winter break, which recharges the players batteries. I believe there is also one in Spain, correct me if I'm wrong.

{Ed001's Note - there is a shorter break in Spain, but yes they have a break over Christmas time.}

13 Mar 2015 06:27:18
Agree with G62, what goes up, must come down. Power will always change hands no matter what you do :)

13 Mar 2015 09:24:30
Not sure if real Madrid enjoyed there winter break lol . I love games over christmas

13 Mar 2015 13:41:28
I do think this whole decline thing is a bit of a over statement and a little arrogant.

we are talking about the champions league in a cup competition where anything can happen.

Yes Chelsea went out to the champions of France, and for the people that state their league is not as strong as ours your right, but chelsea were not playing their league but PSG are a good team with good international players and a good coach, and after 2 draws Chelsea went out on away goals rule.

arsenal have gone out twice to the eventual winners on the away goal rule, how often has an English team over the 2 legs actually been turned over compleatly like Barcelona were last year, does that mean the Spanish league is in turmoil?

I hate to say it but i thinks its just English hype, its what we do, we believe that we have the best of everything and should just turn up and walk everything, well rather than think we are in a desperate time how about just realize that actually there is not a huge difference in all the teams and major leagues and sometimes a small difference, attitude on the day can send any team through in that competition.

here is a question however unlikely i believe this is going to happy. If arsenal and city come through next week, and then both get to the final - ( finishing with a Arsenal win of course) will all those people that have said we are going backwards ect suddenly change their tune and be saying - I always said this was the best league in the world?

13 Mar 2015 21:48:47
GB, not meaning to sound arrogant with the post, I've thought the same as you for a while, we hype everything up, as soon as a 16 year old comes through we need to thrust him into the first team for everything so he's world class at 20 and is the greatest thing since sliced Zidane!

Looking at when Spain when they dominated world and European competition for years, the team played together for years, from the under 21's to the senior squad, so they knew eachother. However our national squad seems to have sterling and oxlade on the wings one month then Downing and Milner the next, too much change, players like wilshere, Oxlade, sterling, stones, chambers should be playing together at a younger age instead of being put in the senior squad.

It has an impact on the leagues looking at germany and Spain, they have 2-3 teams where the national side is made up of, whereas we have so many teams that we choose from, based on form, which seems fair, but in the long run. Surley won't win us anything.

12 Mar 2015 17:21:16
Nevel subotic.....

What you reckon fellas?
Get this lad in and find a suitor for the BFG?

Our centre back would then be...koss, gabi, chambers n subotic

We'd be pretty comfortable in that area for a few years if it happens.

Here's hoping ;)

12 Mar 2015 18:29:56
Too injury prone for me, but he is a great player.

12 Mar 2015 19:02:43
Sounds ideal for us Detroit, what's his hair like? :-)

12 Mar 2015 19:06:19
Class player

12 Mar 2015 20:11:52
Good player, but is he ugly enough?

13 Mar 2015 00:53:30
Akie wit tht being said... We can safely say "He won't get into th Real Madrid team"!!

14 Mar 2015 11:29:24
But bale did lol

12 Mar 2015 07:03:57
I know we need English teams to go far in the Champions league but I have to say well done PSG, the right team went through. Chelsea are not a good advert for the English game, and Mourinho is a winner, but has no class and deserves nothing. He complained about their behaviour but he sends his team out to do the same? He is an embarrassment to anyone who understands class and has it.

I would really like thereto fall from the top by the end of this season.

I have been lucky enough to have won in sports, as a runner when I was younger and in karts and single seater when I was a little older and losing and winning with class and earning respect is something he will never understand.

If they play that poorly against Southampton, Liverpool and us there are points to be dropped. It will be interesting to see how they respond.

The club admonish the fans for the behaviour as thugs and then send out players to act like thugs and cheat.

Costa, for the talent he has should be ashamed of himself. He may well get fouled a lot, but he gives out just as much if not more. There are a lot of players who get fouled but don't behave like him.

How can Mourinho point out other people's tactics behaviour when they are doing to him what his teamsters out to do.

PSG. You were class. That is how you play football.

What I would give for us to buy Things Silva. Silly for the handball but what avresponse, and what a player.

Add Marquinhos in as well to the Arsenal fold, buy Dybala, get Jose Louis Gaya and let us move to the next level.

I can but dream.

At least we play the game the right way, like PSG.

Mourinho. You get what you deserve in life

Is actually feel sorry for some Chelsea players. They are too good to be part of Thug FC.

Let the final Act of the season commence

Now Arsenal, do the impossible and turn round our deficit in Monaco.

Even Ian Rush was disgusted by them. The fact that he thinks their behaviour is unacceptable is a statement in itself.

How does a team with so much talent accept the directive of their manager to get the best of the opposition sent off.

Just don't get it.

Morning all. Have a great day everyone.

J

{Ed001's Note - I have deja vu!}

12 Mar 2015 07:45:55
Why do you say that ED001?

{Ed001's Note - because this post came through half finished about 20 times prior to this finished one.....}

12 Mar 2015 07:50:41
Sorry. Had no idea that happened. Will try and type fat fingers on my phone better moving forward! Lol

{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, it happens. I did assume you had just accidentally pressed send too early.}

12 Mar 2015 07:57:53
An undignified exit for a club without dignity, nice to see.
Mourinho has been trying to cultivate an us against the world siege mentality since his return and on this at least he is 100% on course.

12 Mar 2015 08:07:58
thanks ED001 for being understanding ;)

Absolutely agree G62. Ying Yang is good and well in the world.

{Ed001's Note - you get used to it, just had to wait a while to make sure that was the finished post before I could put it up!}

12 Mar 2015 08:16:58
Probably doesn't help that I tend to write LONG!

lol

{Ed001's Note - I have noticed that, we just had a quick conference about the accidental submissions and we have decided it would be easier to just have a 'are you sure you want to submit' question after you press submit to stop that. It might be a bit of a pain having to press yes afterwards, but it saves on people losing a really long post after getting just halfway through.}

12 Mar 2015 08:30:21
Ed, you are a top Ed.

JinKent, top top post and totally agree.

Not sure why, but Mourinho doesn't pi55 me off too much, but Costa is a total ar5e.

He's a total disgrace to football.

{Ed001's Note - damn right I am! ;o) Modest too......}