Arsenal Banter Archive July 13 2013

13 Jul 2013 21:57:39
What I can't stand from some supporters, is the arrogance some of you show on this site. We are a big club, but so are liverpool and spurs are certainly becoming one. Its really embarrassing the level of disrespect shown to other clubs and what they're capable of. I'm confident of this team we have and we may sign players that will take us to that other level, but to suggest that spurs, liverpool or teams around us don't have any pulling power for top players or have no chance of challenging us is absolutely ludicris.

Our club is becoming a laughing stock because of ignorant fans and its annoying that many don't understand the concept of modesty.

I'm under no disillusion that next season will be incredibly tough. Top 3, won't be challenged. They are miles ahead. We will fight for fourth again. liverpool and spurs will challenge, absolutely no doubt in my mind. They are not as far behind us as you think. Stop being deluded, and realise we are nothing special. Unless we see a dramatic change in the transfer policy, I'm expecting more of the same. No trophies, no great impact players, and pretty much same old arsenal. Signs are there that this may be the case, but I'm not convinced in the slightest.


Ashton

Well said and I couldn't agree more with your comments.

Our club and its fans has (usually!) had just that touch of class about it- do sad to see some of the arrogance on display at times.

But sometimes arrogance can belie a certain insecurity. I guess this is the response to 'being left behind' by other clubs.

But I agree this season will not be easy, even with (if we ever get them!) a couple of top signings.

Just because u got stood up no need to take it out on us,

Well said old chum spliffing comments straight out of the war cabinet I would say sort of thing old Monty would have said. A good friend of Daddy's once said this his name was Winston Churchill good man he was I have adapted it somewhat "We shall play them on the pitches and we will fight for that fourth spot " because the reality is all the Arsenal fans wanna see us get fourth spot mate ehhh!

13 Jul 2013 20:12:19
At th present time which forward is th most likely comin our way?

13 Jul 2013 19:20:33
We all sit wishing against hope that a big transfer will be announced imminently, but with both Wenger and Gazidis on the tour in the far east, it seems unlikely anything will happen in the next few days?

I'd be suprised if there are any noteworthy signings before match day 1

13 Jul 2013 17:54:03
Eds do u think a 35mil bid would b enough to get Suarez? As thy may also need to sell him like one of th eds said before. {Ed027's Note - if he hands in a transfer request etc. yes it will be enough, but maybe not for us, it hink Madrid can get him for that much, we'd have to go 40m imo, they ain't getting more than that, 40m max, no chance of the 45-50m LFC fans are spouting

Napoli would also be above us in the pecking order

Think we would be a '4th place trophy' for Suarez. Not impossible though. Think Transfermarkt have it right at 35% chance.

More like no chance of 35mil from any club Ed. I know your an Arsenal fan but I can guarantee the very minimum Suarez will go for is 40mil unless its part exchange deals {Ed027's Note - no you do not

13 Jul 2013 17:08:04
Ladies & Gents, I have it on good authority that Higuain has been signed & is on the plane to join his new team in Asia, he will be announced to the Asian audience before tomorrow's game. This is 100% legit, no reason for me to lie, I am a supporter as much as you.

13 Jul 2013 17:51:38
Will will see. everyone seems to try and sound convincing. bet you are wrong km

So hope your true?
Can't see it though
Why not sign him b4 and play him

100% legit! Haha no chance!

I suspect this is more wishful thinking from a fan, than any real inside info.

But if its true, then fair play and all kudos to you.

Will you be one of the about 1% that turns out to be true, or the 99%?

Odds aren't great.

Keep off the beer mate

I believe you my cousin's girlfriend's wife's dog has a friend who is related to goonersaurus who said the same thing

Bergkamp5353

No one has a reason to lie about transfers. But people do it anyway, we will see and if your wrong please refrain from lying on this site again.

Akie,
if you took away all the comments from people telling porkies there would be very litlle left! The dream becomes the llusion then becomes the definite knowldge.

Yeah it looks like Higuain will sign b4 the match in Asia?
Don't think so

13 Jul 2013 16:01:30
The latest message from Wenger is same old, same old, how many times have we heard this rubbish. He once again talks about finding Quality and not quantity, which we all agree with I am sure. BUT is there not quality players out there? There is of course quality players out there and they are available at a price. We have the money to add two or three quality players so why have we not done so. I will tell you why, he is afraid to fail with big name players. What a joke it should be the clubs and Boards priority to improve the team, almost everyone knows what type of players we need yet he dithers and dithers and makes the same old excuses.

I can't for the life of me, understand why we are talking about a new improved contract for him at this stage.

Make him earn it with success on the field, not after 5 years of mediocracy!

Usmanov must come in and shake things up, the sooner the better!

Agree. No way he should have a new contract unless he actually starts building a team.
We are becoming a joke.

13 Jul 2013 19:29:55
Posts like this really annoy me, I cannot be bothered with these so called fans the very small minority that are destroying our chances of winning anything we need to stand strong and believe in wenger and the team your negativity is only bringing the mentality of the squad down. new players will arrive give it time wengers a man of mystery and I for one believe he will pull of the trick of the decade this summer and before you reply saying something like we have waited long enough how long is that i'm sure city waited 50 years, chelsea around the same, moan when we get to that stage. We have a stadium that even the vinci would be proud of our team isn't far away from being a contender! and this is all thanks to Wenger. I may be overreacting to your post but I am at boiling point with putting up with fans who just don't have a clue how good they have got it.

It's not the fans the are stoping arsenal winning tropies
It's the board?
In my opinion wenger should not be givien a new deal just yet
Need to see wot wenger does this transfer window
At the mo it's not looking good
Us the supporters are aloud a opinion and the way things are a lot of the fans are not happy

13 Jul 2013 14:42:49
Ed how much did we sign dan Crowley for, jamaal raage for and how much compensation for sanogo {Ed027's Note - I understand Crowley will cost or has cost around 1m. Raage - 200k, Barca kid - 400k, Sanogo - 390k.

13 Jul 2013 08:29:26
Ed0027, anythin new on merek hamsik? {Ed027's Note - how do you mean 'new'?

If he's moving this season, interest in him & if we were ever interested in him? I haven't heard bout him recently in the media.

13 Jul 2013 12:27:17
Not good boys. Just looked at the tv schedule and there is only 5 Arsenal PL Games being shown between August and November and only 2 on this BT TV which I refuse to be blagged into. Something does not smell right to me here! What does anyone else think. Not one Arsenal game on Sky in August, 3 in September, 1 in October, and 1 in November. I can see the day coming when you will be able to subscribe to the team of your choice and watch every game they play. I would prefer that.

You should familiarise yourself with this website and the various programs before the season starts:

www.wiziwig. tv

I never missed a game last season. I think you'd be able to get the pre-season game tomorrow evening too.

Move down to the Medi mate. I watch every game free sitting in a Cypriot bar, its a tough life but I struggle through

We get every game every competition live in Dubai too

Paul

It's six games on sky. Only man u and chelski have more with seven. BT aside, there's CL games and the cups. Failing that there's always the old fashioned way to watch the games. Buy a ticket!

13 Jul 2013 11:45:46
I don't think arsenal will sign any big names this year. It's just not wengers style. Think the Suarez and other high profile bids are a smoke screen to appease the fans

Sorry but I am fed up with this, "appease the fans" nonsense.

How exactly are they doing that?

Oh by not signing anyone- erm ok, yeah that really appeases the fans doesn't it!

Those sort of comments do not make any sense. I wish people would stop saying it!

Transfer policy, etc etc- yes. appeasing fans? Absolutely rubbish.

They'd appease the 'sheep', and unfortunately there are more of those than there are 'free thinkers'.

IF that is what they're doing it'll work. Majority rules.

13 Jul 2013 11:03:06
A question to the EDs. does Suarez have a 40m clause in his contract?

On another note some people's names have a blue box around their names and I want one! I've earns it by being me!

Hackney Gooner {Ed029's Note - The clause apparently relates to allowing Suarez the option to discuss a transfer with other clubs.}

If so, did Arsenals representatives approached Suarez yet? {Ed029's Note - Arsenal are not allowed to talk to Suarez.}

13 Jul 2013 09:48:23
Malaga gooner,

Sorry I haven't replied to you recently.

I've been well, my patience with this supposedly done higuain deal is running out though haha.

I won't lie, I don't trust your rumours but at least your posts are interesting, I enjoy reading them.

Nick.

Hey nick,

no probs mate each to their own.

not hearing much from you any more, hope your not loosing interest.

malaga gooner

13 Jul 2013 09:07:02
How deluded are some of you to think that liverpool will sell us Luis saurez. This deal will never happen. Their manager will be under pressure to appease their fans regarding this matter as per the torres to Chelsea situation before. If Liverpool do sell, it will be to a mega rich club prepared to pay £50m for Suarez. They will not accept the rumoured £40m. Fact. The £40m clause allows Suarez to speak with other clubs including us, but Liverpool are not obliged to sell.

Also, they do not need to sell. They have reiterated that he is not for sale, and they will continue to be stubborn. This is a world cup year and Suarez knows he can't afford poor performances. I expect him to move, but it will NEVER be arsenal.

Their manager has also stated he wants to make a big push for the top 4, so why would they make a rival stronger? Common sense just shows that no deal is possible.

The primary target remains Higuain. Whether that happens, remains to be seen. I still expect it go through.


Marcus

Ok fair enough, let's forget about saurez! I think most fans know it is a long a shot at best, I wouldn't worry about that!

13 Jul 2013 13:32:25
Yep god forbid an EPL team makes another one stronger and they go on to win the league, not even Arsenal would do that, would they?

Stoner

Funny, was reading a post in the rumour section where somebody claimed we would offer £36m plus Bendtner for Suarez, I think they would prefer £35m and NO Bendtner!

337

13 Jul 2013 08:21:57
Nicky Bentner to Hull

13 Jul 2013 07:21:12
LOVE THIS SITE I DO. Sometimes I think I won't be bothered coming on here as I'm reading too much of the same nonsense. Then I have to have a sneaky peep at what's being spread around. Some of it is complete rubbish I'm guilty of that too but in the main it's very good. Only one complaint really I think people should reveal there sources Ha ha and you eds should let us know who you are. Please post this, it is a compliment boys.

If all sources were revealed eds insider and anyone elses insider knowledge would last all of 1 transfer window.


Naming internal business leaks is a good way of getting someone sacked.

13 Jul 2013 02:57:18
Arsenal ain't signing no big names, well sign unheard of players or OKAY players nothing more, it pains me to know this I feel this same feeling every year. If any deal were tied up like some people are saying, we would have taken these players on tour to gel in. We may be close, but that's all we wanna be so our board can say we tried and showed intent Fellaini is no done deal, there's links to 2 other clubs, Suarez is a quality player a bad apple and just doesn't seem a Wenger player, higuain is in peace talks as is rooney and if chelsea and city get in if the talks fail were left with not even scraps. At best hope city get jovetic chelsea sign rooney and torres becomes available, hell fit in well even though he's been more torrid then torres of late. Even so wenger would rather pay 700 french 14 yr olds on minimum wage to represent the club than bring in a landmark player!
David Dean was the best negotiator/ man upstairs, I dunno whether its wenger or the board but I can't help but feel something needs to go!

13 Jul 2013 01:03:34
A. W is clearly optimistic about the future as he is up for extending his contract and surely no arsenal fan believes he is that stupid that he won't buy what he believes are the right players, we have some money to spend but the way people on ere go on is mad. pay the right money. not the silly money, if you ran your house like you want him to run arsenal. ouch. have faith in him.

13 Jul 2013 00:02:03
Quotes of Wenger today -

'I don't automatically assume that I will be here. I think I knew when I committed to my last contract and the contract before that the club were going through a very sensitive period, because we had less financial resources and the challenge was to stay at the top and in the Champions League during that period.
'We are coming out of that period and I hope in the next two or three years the club will be competing for the Premier League. '

I could be reading into this but indirectly I think this could be an indication of what we can expect this summer in the way of transfers. COMPETING for the Premier League in 2 or 3 years. Higuain hype as season tickets were laid out?

I hope this is posted and I hope I am totally wrong! I am an Arsenal fan however I am open to criticism about what I have wrote. This is coming from a supporter who hasn't bothered buying any ARSENAL memorabillia for four years now and hasn't been to a game for that amount of time either! Tbh I don't want to line the clubs' pockets any further until ambition is shown. Good luck to the people that comment who continue to buy shirts, tickets etc.

Jamie

Fair point mate and it worried me a little too but I sometimes feel things are a little lost in translation when he speaks and reckon he was just trying to be a bit humble about it and also that heactually meant we will CONTINUE to do so for two or three years.

Overall, he is referring to competing based on this summer's targets so why would it take that long before the same squad are ready to challenge?

Hope I'm not being too wishful!

Well said Jamie. I think you are spot on. The club has been having our pants down for too many seasons now with false promises. It's getting boring I said it on here ages ago same old same old. In fact same old crap different season.

Maybe you misread it? Wenger said competing in the next two or three years. ( which means the upcoming season )

Rather than what you read. Competing in 2 or 3 years

Adam

Even if we buy 2/3 world class players it doesn't mean we will win the league. I think big arrivals will happen and presuming the other top teams all make additions it will be as tough as ever. I think a few additions will make us more competitive and let's say we offered you now Arsenal to finish 2nd in the league within 6 points would you take it? I sure as hell would. Considering the points gap we have had in the league from top spot in recent years that would be considerable improvement. Then next season with more strengthening winning the league again would be a distict possibility.

Well I am not sure I agree- it will take time to compete for PL again.

Finishing around 3rd/4th for last few seasons is deceiving, in the sense that 1st and 2nd has been some way out of our reach.

Even with a couple of top signings, with other teams also adding (the ones already a head!), I am not sure it would make us contenders right now.

I think he is being realistic in that it will take a couple of seasons to put together a squad capable of challenging for pl.

You seemed to have missed this, from the same interview:

As well as Suarez, Wenger was asked about Higuain and Wayne Rooney. “They are all realistic targets quality wise, but not all of them are available to join us, ” he said.

“For years we were out of the race for the top-level transfers but we are coming back now. We are working very hard and I’m confident we will be able to do it. ”

So adding a few top signings this summer and then again next summer and yeah we should be in a much stronger position to challenge, for sure.

As always, time will reveal its hand.
LG

I have seen the interview quotes from John Cross and honestly I am really disappointed. Wenger talks about the club's values. No, Wenger, they were never our values, they're your values that you have put upon this club like a cross to bare, and only in the last 8 years.

He again spoke of only going for available players, when big clubs make offers that MAKE players available.

That attitude to transfers means we close ourselves off to about 90% of the transfer base, because about that percentage of players really aren't 'available'. It means that we won't go for players unless they want to leave, or their club wants to sell. The implications of this are paramount.

It means we wouldn't identify Higuain as a target and then try and sign him, just because he's the player we want. It means we wouldn't have bought Cazorla. It means we wouldn't go for Fellaini. Nor Cesar.

It's actually, imo, pathetic for a big club. Man U decide they want a player, and they go and sign him. It's as simple as that. They don't care whether or not the guy is available. They make the guy available!

Considering this has been our transfer policy for the last 9 years or so, it really is remarkable that we've finished top 4 every year. I don't know whether to be bewildered or impressed!

And you just KNOW that if we don't sign Higuain or someone of that quality, the fans will rage, Wenger will get nothing but abuse, then the season ticket argument will come up (quite rightly).

I read his quotes about the team spirit if new signings are made and honestly I want to cry. If ever we needed proof that he does not GET the psychology of a top young football player, there it is. Jack, Theo etc are clearly fed up with the lack of star signings every year. They're fed up with starting again and they're fed up with the atmosphere being s*** at the emirates because we reduced our quality in the window whilst other teams simultaneously strengthened. He puts the players' feelings ahead of the success of the club and that is not admirable. This isn't pre-school, this is elite football.

Faith in this window = shattered, I'm afraid.

I don't think we'll sign Higuain, nor Fellaini, nor Cesar, and god knows what's going on with this CB nonsense.

Please Wenger prove me wrong. Back up what Gazidis said. There really is only one person to blame if we have a poor start to the season because of the poor team spirit and poor fan expectation!

I do believe Man U want Thiago, but have they signed him yet, looks more likely he'll go to Bayern. Baines. Ronaldo.

I do get what you are trying to say but does anyone really know what we are up to. if not then let's give it time.

Even moneybags Chelski didn't get cavani, haven't got anyone of note as yet. Would we have wanted the two players they've bought so far. I don't think so.

We've bought fairly decent players (Not all) in recent years without a so called warchest. so I believe we will get some decent players this window. Timw will tell.

Estepona gooner