Arsenal Banter Archive March 13 2014

13 Mar 2014 23:45:43
So I guess Theo started a trend with his '2 - 0' gesture.

even benfica manager Jorge Jesus had a go at it to Tim Sherwood hahah

13 Mar 2014 22:45:18
No offence, but if we can't beat Spurs (based on what I saw tonight and at Stamf Bridge), than we don't deserve to finish in top 4.

Benfica were very good but Spurs were awful.
No fluency in their play at all. Their back 4 were terrible, poor marking, very vulnerable at set-pieces, never won any 2nd ball situation's.

Their midfield were just as bad. No cohesion, lost their runners time and time again and their forward passing was awful.
Lennon was useless, Eriksen looked average (great free-kick though) and Sandro was awful.

Adebayor? well he was just Adebayor, no need to explain.

Honestly, if we can't beat this lot, even with our injuries, than something is seriously wrong.

Top post Dags couldn't agree more. I thought I was watching a Conference side. Mind you a Conference side would have been playing with a bit more flair. I've got to say though that if I were a Spurs supporter I wouldn't blame Sherwood I would be looking at the cards that were dealt to him by AVB. I think AVB is a waste of space personally.

Their heads are turned. they are under pressure, the manager has told them they are fighting for their careers, and the pressure to win 4th is piling up with every liverpool win meaning, there is no top 4 battle. its a title battle between top 4 and then the rest.

13 Mar 2014 20:29:47
Comments on Ramsey still being out injured?

I know your Arsenal through and through and if you broke yourself in half it would say Arsenal in the middle BUT! you do like to ask then questions that encourage a pop at the club.
Not sure why?

He makes a very fair point G62. The same thing has happened for the last god knows how many seasons. And it's not all down to the medical staff. Arsene rushes players back to cover for the fact we don't have a good enough squad and runs them into the ground before and after the injury to compensate for the lack of quality depth our squad has.

Hang on a minute Gunner, it is a question, many people on here have questions all the injuries, we tried to bring him back too early and he got injured, all the chat on here was for the NLD, I was told the story about him being out for the rest of the season was rubbish, well at the minute he still isn't back in full training . You have to have the hard discussions as well as the lovely ones.

Sorry mate but the Arsenal medical team, do not seem to be earning their corn

All our major injuries seem to have started when the England team stole our best physio Gary Lewin!

1st the question on the CL eligibility, fair enough!
Then next post in the medical team, yes a question that's been asked before by us all but the two in quick secession? It looks like some one looking to have a go at the club to me, sorry but I don't understand.
It doesn't have to be lovey dovey but does it have to be so anti all the time

Hi guys,
there was an article in a paper today regarding Arsenal injuries from that dutch fitness guy who tore D Moyes apart earlier in the season about his methods and now he has done the same regarding AW. Basically he said when Arsene first arrived he revolutionised the training in England but now its outdated and he hasn't moved forward or upgraded if you like as time has gone on.
He feels that most coaches do this and only a handful will actually change their systems to move wih the times. He makes sense tbh as actually a lot of muscle injuries are not just down to bad luck, impact injuries you can't avoid obviously.

Gunner

Not about Ramsey it hasn't, everyone on here or most were going on about Ramsey for the NLD? Sorry but it isn't the first time .

If you don't want to answer a straight forward Q, then don't comment. simple.

Or would you like to answer the Q?

Agreed Toolbox

Seems odd if there is a link between him going to the FA and the start of a series of injuries

P.S Gunner

you clearly haven't read my post sticking up for the purchase of Ozil. or did you miss that one :) x

I read the same article that Simonpw read.

The Dutch bloke also said that apparently Wenger trains the players like they are marines, especially in pre-season.

I'm no expert but maybe it's why we get a lot of injuries.

Yes Dags that could do it! carrying all that kit on your back, rifles, hand grenades etc. It's a recipe for disaster. LOL maybe we should be playing the HOP 2, 3, 4 HOP 2, 3, 4 formation .

Happy to answer Banbury, Ramsey injury status is back any day, I like most people hoped he would be back to Sunday but that isn't going to happen unfortunately.
Is he really out for the season? I doubt it very much but I may be wrong, time will tell.
I never want our players to be injured and that very much includes Sanogo.
Are our players out to often and to long? Yes of course that are compared to other players at other clubs.
My question to you was why so much negativity about the club so often,?
It does seem to me you look for things to have a dig about and still don't understand why?
People often post very valid concerns about the club but I have never known anyone apart from spurs fans find so much wrong so often with Arsenal

13 Mar 2014 19:05:43
Anyone think ozil is a big waste of money we could have spent it on 2 players

He needs better players in front of him! Imperative that we go and buy two top class strikers this summer. Giroud still has something to give but just in a lesser role.

Nope

I think with the right support around him he is fantastic

It's his first season and his stats are strong despite Theo and Rambo being injured. These two benefit from a player like Ozil as would Pod when given the chance.

I would like to see a bit more pace in our game and more runs behind the back four to take advantage of Ozil

Ozil would have loved Freddie, Overmars, Anelka etc etc.

Far too early to call, he needs a full 12 months to adjust, let's see how he is next Xmas

See Gunner I am defending AFC :)

No not at all, he is a world class Robin and not a Batman. any side in the world would be happy to have him

My concern is all the stick he is getting from so called supporters, I mean we are lucky to still have Ramsey (tip of the cap to you Mr. Wenger).

Let's win the cup!

Ozil should get stick for his dumb penalties but not for the time it has taken him to settle into the prem, he is quality, he needs time IMO

Not sure why we are lucky to have Ramsey? We are 'The Arsenal' and a big club we have stuck by him . Hopefully he will be more loyal than a certain Dutchman

BG - we are lucky to have Ramsay because when he was down from the long recovery from his injury, some supporters gave up on him which did not help his confidence. But Wenger did not and now he looks like our future captain. I can't remember if you stuck with him through the tough times - hope so. ;-))

Who is to say Ozil will be so patient…

Cheers mate.

13 Mar 2014 18:20:21
What are peoples thoughts on us taking a player to Munich who wasn't registered to play??

Not sure why he wasn't eligible and obviously neither were the club until the last minute.
Need to hear what happened fully to make a judgement.
To easy to assume it was our incompetence

13 Mar 2014 20:05:55
Guess it was better than taking some 5th division french no hoper ;-)

Embarrassing tbh, you'd have thought Ryo himself would have known surely? let alone like EVERYBODY else!

Jen

3rd division but let's not split hairs eh?

3rd of 5th still poor

But he was injured anyhow :)

13 Mar 2014 21:51:03
It was a joke Banbury as I thought he was French 2nd Division then you said 3rd so I stretched it to 5th :-)

Apologies J :)

13 Mar 2014 15:06:53
Jenny . Meant to say on your photo is that drift wood on the beach next to you.?

Hahah. all it takes is one girl eh. jenny should get her friends on here and spread the love.

13 Mar 2014 18:24:34
And I'm betting you don't even believe it's me, taken on a part of the seriously beautiful island of Aitutaki, one of the Cook Islands.

Had to fly there on a little plane from Rarotonga. Scary!

Is that you Jen?

Wowzers, i'm totally impressed.

Always wanted to go there. remote as hell indeed. now i'm a big boy. lol. saving up for 6 months out motorbiking in south america 2016.

saving is tough when arsenal sucks all your money. lol

13 Mar 2014 14:55:26
If! Balotelli was to become an Arsenal striker where do you all think that would leave Giroud. Would Giroud become the back up or vice versa. Tough one?

Giroud will be 2nd fiddle I reckon Gold's.

13 Mar 2014 14:40:31
Reasons to be cheerful this season

Still challenging for the title in march
Semi finals and massive favourites for the fa cup
Giving a good account of ourselves in europe against the big boys from germany, italy and france.
Finally splashing out on a world class player.
Ramsey overcoming the boo boys to turn into the complete player he is.
The ox showing his class consistantly.
Per and Kos solidifying their partnership.
Shez maturing into a top keeper.
Flamini brought back to have someone that will finally bark orders.
And finally we never wasted 100m.

its not all doom and gloom folk's. we all want more but still need to appreciate what we do have.

We are in a very healthy position and this is due to wengers eye for talent and also his economic know how. I do appreciate that and think 95% of fans do.

However at the very least this summer is the time to push on (should of last summer but excuses were made again), if he does not get the players in where it seems glaringly obvious to everyone he needs to strengthen then surely questions need to be raised about where he sees the club progressing.

surely? or am I being ungrateful because I want us to win the premier league and champions league. even though we have 200 million sitting around looking tasty.

Great post Belly things are on the right track for sure and Saenz agree with you no excuses or reasons this summer we have to add some real quality with real money this time.
Ozil was a great step forward but he needs to be part of not our entire plan for the future

13 Mar 2014 13:05:42
I am beginning to wonder if Arsene Wenger has done all he can for the Club.

His hesitant nature has not helped us.

Yes he brought Ozil, yes I am aware Ozil came mainly due to wenger. but besides that the tactical nous and the timely substitutions are not effective on the biggest stage.

I would like to see wenger go to barcelona, have the best players at his disposal, even buy mesut from Arsenal and win that trophy he so elusively wants.

for me he will not win that at arsenal, especially with his hesitance to spend.

Win the FA cup, try and win the league and call it a day.

I am aware we should be ware what we ask for especially looking at how Manchester United are without fergie.

But I think appointing the likes of Klopp, Martinez would enable us to change our mentality, our way of thinking.

Wilshere, Ramsey, Ox, Theo, gnabry, zelalem. these are the real treasures and superstars in the making we have. admittedly theo is one trick, but his pace is stellar against european opponents.

Mert and kos are due to be 30 and 29 by the start of next season, with a 2-3 year window before they start to decline. We have no apparent young CB in the pipeline, nor are we scouting one.

Vermalen may leave, Sagna may leave,

im happy with Jenks, monreal and Gibbs, but we still need a starting RB this summer.

Arteta and Flamini are great but again, they do not control the game, they just position themselves greatly to affect our teams play. we need a more dominant CDM

the Draxler to Arsenal is def dead IMHO, bayern are going to buy him.

Kroos and muller and whoever else wants out will go to barcelona, Pogba will join madrid along with one superstar striker.

The Strong European teams are only getting stronger.

I have no idea how much money we have in the bank, but this summer, if we have to pay over the odds, we must.

Cavani, Diego Costa, so on. but we are after alvaro morata, no disrespect to him, but he is not going to win us the league.

For me wenger has to improve a lot of things, including an answer to why our players are forever injured.

its not like barcelona has the strongest physical speicmen players in their team, but yet they play a large majority of their games, in rotation and are always available for the key months in the year.

now look at our squad, I can't even imagine how many key players are not in the lineup.

For me this was wengers last chance saloon.

i do not want to make excuses for my team and he should not be making excuses as a manager.

he should have paid 53 million for cavani, he should have raised the suarez bid, he should have added more depth.

leaving everything to luck is bad planning.

im unaware of the summer plans, but if he leaves it till the last day, once again its not a coop, its just luck.

its not all doom and gloom i'm aware, we are not struggling to make 4th, but the team has been exhausted with his selections.

sanogo barely came back and injured, ozil injured, ramsey, wilshere, and we have spurs then chelsea and so on.

Being a realist I know our title dreams are over, getting 3rd would be a blessing.

but the blame lies with the manager, he has taken this risk, he has made the choices and he should live with the consequence. the money was there.

Im grateful to all wenger has done, but I feel he just cannot take us further, It would be better if he took the best job on offer, with a star studded team, and he took on his obsession to win the champions league.

but for Arsenal, and his money miser ways, he will not take us to the pinnacle in that manner.

can we win the EPL over the next few years, YES

we can win the FA cup this year. i'm Ecstatic. but in the long term view and the dream we will all have in the coming years, wenger will not be able to deliver to us the European crown.

I hope you understand my perspective, its not a slight against the team, its just the way they are managed and rotated, and the effects it has on our european season year after year.

Cheers.

Lakerville, I agree completely bud. I wrote a post a while ago that said pretty much the same thing. for the past 2 or 3 years there has been a huge opportunity to take us on to the next level but he has not done it. We are realistically going to finish 3rd or 4th this season again! its not good enough considering the potential we have in the team and the spare money we have in the bank. understandable if we were broke, but we are far from it.

i think we will win the FA Cup and finish 3rd. However I think we will sign a middle of the road striker and a young defender in the summer. We will go in for top players e.g Diego Costa, Griezman etc but they will move elsewhere because other clubs front a more generous financial package to buy them.

it baffles me because surely with the finances available being the best team possible should come before making more profit?

each season I start it with such a level of excitement and confidence in the team as it progresses it gradually fades into disappointment and acceptance that we will finish 4th, the same thing happens year on year.

I don't believe all the stuff about Wenger having sole control of player activity, obviously he has a big say. If the board wanted him to spend the money he would have to. at the end of the day it is their decision not his. They have the power to sack him so why would he go against their wishes?

In my opinion people should focus anger on the owners not him although his player management does seem slightly odd at the moment.

I agree with this apart from wenger leaving just to win the champions league, I think his story will end as one of the greatest footballing minds never to win it, it's a great shame.

It's terribly annoying how our players pull a muscle and are out for 6-10 weeks and if this changes we can of course win the premier league.

I hope I regret these words but it could be last chance saloon for wenger as you say mate, I'm hoping wengerism comes and shows some of his famous (if not infamous) upbeat attitude.

As you say, there are a lot of positives, given our situation now, I would have snapped your hands off if I was offered it before the window, an FA semi and still in the title race (mathematically.)

But once again it feels like it's about to all fall apart and it never seems fair on us.

I thank wenger for all he has done. But if we don't add in the summer I'll be very doubtful over the ability of wenger to win us titles. Especially the one he craves the most and we may never see that massive beaming smile again.

A new manager with new ideas would be a massive welcome. Something that happened famously in 1996, and perhaps in 2040, when we have a new legend, even comparing him to the great Arsene Wenger, we could have our hands on the champions league.

Great post Laker! One of the most realistically thought out posts iv seen on here in recent months. Certainly no rose tinted glasses.

It might be noting to do with AW, do you really think and other manager could have done as much, it is more to do with the American who holds the purse strings .

Best post ever. Respect Laker.

Banbury I Agree, it may not be all there for him to spend, we don't know.

but if I was him, and I have now seen, wilshere, ramsey, ox, gnabry, can perform, add zelalem to the mix, try and bring Khedira or gundogan to give us some midfield depth.

and if money is needed, I would sell ozil to barcelona in a swap for Alexis Sanchez and money.

would that make barca stronger? yes ofcourse it would.

but having a frontline of Theo, Alexis (he is a strong player) on the wings would enable us to bring a better clinical striker.

look we need something drastic to happen this summer, if he is not going to buy a striker because he can't spend, sell the 42, 5 million player to buy the striker, because that's what we needed all along.

no slight at ozil he is world class, but i'd rather get some money on him and let him flourish in a league where he can use his technical ability, rather than being pushed around in the EPL, which he cannot handle physically.

We called it from the start, we needed a striker, and the clinical moments we needed a goal have passed us by.

13 Mar 2014 08:24:04
Q. What's the difference between Spurs goalkeepers and a taxi driver?
A. A taxi driver will only let in four at a time.

Love it mate

13 Mar 2014 08:12:03
Many moons ago when I was at school, two of my mates were Spurs supporters. They would go to White Hart Lane and wait for about ten minutes after kick off and climb over the wall. One Saturday a policeman caught them and he made them go back in and watch the rest of the game!

Cant stop laughing mate. good one.