Arsenal Banter Archive March 13 2016

 

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13 Mar 2016 20:37:00
Ed025,
Thank you for your kind words about me on Chelsea page.

I didn't know you cared :-)

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{Ed025's Note - i dont.. :)

13 Mar 2016 23:32:13
That's what I thought :-)

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14 Mar 2016 07:43:18
Must of had a few beers dags.

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14 Mar 2016 13:58:22
I reckon so Chris :-)

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13 Mar 2016 22:35:06
read in one of this papers where kroenke said that he did not buy arsenal to win trophies. we have an owner with such an attitude how do we expect to go anywhere? And i think wenger is long overdue. My question though is who is going to replace wenger incase he decides to leave at the end of the season as most of the really good coaches are not on the market?

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13 Mar 2016 22:07:44
Now I'm old man so be gentle on me but, am I alone in thinking that our players are 'doing a Chelsea' on the manager.
It seems they have no faith in Wenger's tatics. No one seems happy, there's no one on the field geeing every one up.
Yeah I think we need a new manager some fresh ideas are desperately needed, maybe they do as well.

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13 Mar 2016 23:19:07
I posted earlier today that there is something very wrong in the club. you might not be that far from the truth. difference is this board won't sack AW.

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13 Mar 2016 16:20:13
I feel for dags right now. The cup wasn't going to happen and I can't see the league either.

But there's not manager out there to improve us.

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13 Mar 2016 20:27:38
The FA cup is about upsets and the underdog winning the day so today is just one of those occasions, its the rest of this season that's the real issue for me, well and the 5 identical ones before this season too of course.

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13 Mar 2016 21:47:07
Mickey mouse trophy anyway :-)

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13 Mar 2016 23:20:58
Normally id agree with you 62, but the writing was on the wall, our form for weeks has been dreadful, were Watford really the underdogs, look at the recent form guide .2 very even sides.

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14 Mar 2016 06:51:13
62, who said Watford were the underdogs?

Sorry!

Let's face it, we now can both concentrate on the league! Going to be a good run in!

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13 Mar 2016 19:59:31
It's mr Kipling day again boys the raver is having an exceedingly good day with spurs marching on and you gooners getting knocked out of the cup. if you lot are not careful you might not even finish top 4 also dags that Harry Kane never disappoints you he scores more than Peter Stringfellow .

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13 Mar 2016 20:28:14
Fair play to you Raver,

We have had bragging rights for past 20 years, looks like it's your turn this year.

But don't count your Chickens too soon mate. The smart money is still on Leicester, so looks like you will be having an open top parade to celebrate the 2nd place trophy :-)

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13 Mar 2016 20:42:31
Top four is over mate IMO.

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13 Mar 2016 23:21:59
I would say some of the smart money is going on Spuds, they have superb momentum.

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{Ed025's Note - it looks like its between them and leicester now BG...ah well it will be nice to see a small club win it anyway.. :)

13 Mar 2016 19:57:19
NE Spud

4 team race. I actually though you knew about football. not so sure now.

Its Spuds for the taking.

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13 Mar 2016 20:06:40
The old psychology game Woolwich. 24 point to play for.

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13 Mar 2016 21:48:31
NES,
It's between you and Leicester.

Unfortunately, we don't have the minerals mate.

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14 Mar 2016 07:41:54
Such a superb game of wits. I wonder how often the spurs players come on this forum lol.

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13 Mar 2016 19:29:16
I think you miss my point Leic, I meant our opponents score first then put 10men behind the ball while we try and thread the ball thru a eye of a needle. As for Northeast Spur I have to perform to a certain level everyday at work or I get a pull by my boss and can't use as excuse past performances because their not interested they are paying me a fair wage and only concerned in what I am doing now and the same thing applies to AW one of the highest paid managers in the world charging very high ticket prices and turning out below par performances on a regular basis.

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13 Mar 2016 19:28:53
I think you miss my point Leic, I meant our opponents score first then put 10men behind the ball while we try and thread the ball thru a eye of a needle. As for Northeast Spur I have to perform to a certain level everyday at work or I get a pull by my boss and can't use as excuse past performances because their not interested they are paying me a fair wage and only concerned in what I am doing now and the same thing applies to AW one of the highest paid managers in the world charging very high ticket prices and turning out below par performances on a regular basis.

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13 Mar 2016 19:19:36
Just like to say the following regarding how I feel right now :

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13 Mar 2016 19:11:54
Similar stats seen many times this season. Dominant in possession, over 20 chances created and only a consolation goal to show for it. Lack of top level finishing thoughout the whole attack.
We are losing frequently to teams with less quality in their side but who, as importantly, show much more heart, desire and pride in their jerseys. As others have fallen away over the last year or two we should have established ourselves as one of the top 2 teams in the country and been a fear to play against. But instead we have gone backwards and with several teams ready to clear out and spend big money this summer we will very likely fall further back if things don't change very quickly.

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13 Mar 2016 17:30:06
Payet has just scored a worldie. how did West Ham United get him.

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13 Mar 2016 17:22:28
Spuds 2 up and coasting, we are 6 points behind them with Everton away next . M City and Man U and Spuds are at home to Palace.

It ain't looking good is it.

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13 Mar 2016 17:28:50
Man C, Man U and us home to palace, surely that's unfair?

That's 33 v 11 Banbury Woolwich?

Soon 9 points behind us. Beep beep.

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13 Mar 2016 17:38:59
Nice one NE, think you know what I mean :)

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13 Mar 2016 17:44:42
Sorry I'm being cantankerous. ;-)

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13 Mar 2016 17:55:19
I found it light hearted, Spuds have to be favourite for the league now.

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13 Mar 2016 18:28:23
Steady on Woolwich.

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13 Mar 2016 18:48:39
Oh they are without a doubt.

Spuds look very stronhg, Leicester look a bit wobbly IMO

I will congratulate you now.

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13 Mar 2016 19:04:20
Long way to go, lot of points to be played for. 4 in the race IMO.

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13 Mar 2016 19:19:31
We will finish above Spuds Banbury mate its what we do .
Arsenal under Arsene part one, challenge and win titles with a team that is conditioned and has the ability and mentality to do so.
Arsene part two, finish top 4 make the champions league last 16 and finish above spurs with a team that has the ability and mentality to do so.
Its what the club now stands for keep the money coming in the players cosy and enough of the fans happy by finishing above the spuds each season.

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13 Mar 2016 19:56:31
I take your point 62 but not this year, we could be 8 or even 9 points behind Spuds after Saturday.

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13 Mar 2016 20:19:31
When have we ever not done enough to keep the boys upstairs happy mate and the cosy club always come good in time to just do enough to keep a lid on things.

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13 Mar 2016 17:20:00
I think we also have a case of it;'s not who we want to sign but who wants to come . Also we also need to show some concern of who we can keep at the club.

AW will have one more season and without a doubt it will be the clubs biggest.

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13 Mar 2016 17:22:07
Who will want to come knowing he will be on his way after next season? Turmoil.

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13 Mar 2016 17:25:55
The lot of them can go! Per and Gabriel are simply not good enough, until we buy a parter for koscelny and a top class forward not a good one who goes two months without scoring wil we never compete at the top. Same issue for 5-7 years.

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13 Mar 2016 17:28:34
Certainly not turmoil NE, love your spin on it.

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13 Mar 2016 17:32:50
Who is to say KOS will stay, clubs are looking at him.

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13 Mar 2016 17:32:58
I don't think you'll make the same mistake as is Tampa, and make 5/ 6/ 7 signings. Too many.

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13 Mar 2016 17:41:18
I am concerned as to who will sign for us - our wage policy, our transfer budget, our lack of big competition silverware plus a manager with one year on his contract which would not be so bad if he had the support of fans and media

Quite concerning.

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13 Mar 2016 17:57:57
interesting to see how the board react in the summer, don't forget we lose a CL place soon.

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{Ed025's Note - the 4th place trophy is looking in danger now BG..

13 Mar 2016 17:57:57
interesting to see how the board react in the summer, don't forget we lose a CL place soon.

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{Ed025's Note - the 4th place trophy is looking in danger now BG..

13 Mar 2016 18:50:57
Oh for sure, I think its in big danger .

The board thinking they have saved money by not buying or offering decent / higher wages will probably end up losing a fortune.

Now that bit I find amusing.

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13 Mar 2016 17:09:48
Beep Beep!

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13 Mar 2016 19:00:16
Not very often we see a happy spurs fan, my advice enjoy this season and gloat as much as possible, even if spurs do finish above arsenal which is very likely it will be bitter for us but it's only going to be a one off, it had to happen some time but for your sake I hope you won't have to wait another 20+ years for it to happen again as clearly it means so much to spurs and it's fans, as for us well re-group reinvest and move onwards and upwards, every one has to hit rock bottom before they start to rise again and I think this is the season it has happened to us.

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13 Mar 2016 19:43:24
I'll consider that a nibble DJ.

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13 Mar 2016 20:43:37
To be fair we've had our fair share off "nibbles" on here from spurs fans over the past few seasons and have caught yous hook line and sinker every time with the good old MIND THE GAP etc so just like the possibility off finishing above us enjoy it because it won't happen very often πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚.

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13 Mar 2016 17:05:01
Wenger " very difficult to understand how we lost" ermmmm

" We lost a game we shouldn't have lost" how many more times will he say that

" They had a special focus today " so why didn't we AW?

He says some dumb things.

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13 Mar 2016 17:01:56
Yet another odd comment from me

Again we lose on BT Sports, I haven't a stat but we seem to lose more when we appear on BT Sports than on Sky.

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13 Mar 2016 17:30:54
We're losing more and bt now have 90% of football that's all.

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13 Mar 2016 17:40:05
Nope not too sure, I have felt this for a season or three, not that it has anything to do with the fact we are garbage.

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13 Mar 2016 16:57:31
The result confirms what some of us already know and what the others refuse to see. A manager with no game plan whatsoever, players who have been bought by the club who clearly aren't good enough. none of them can take big game pressure. The 2 cup wins just papered over the cracks. I could go on and on here about things going wrong at our club but to me the main blame lays fairly and squarely at the feet of AW with his tippy tappy one dimensional tactics. All credit to Watford but our tactics aren't a state secret and half decent manager can come up with a game plan like score first get your men behind the ball and basic you have won the game. One last thing the season ticket holders really need to send a message to the board when their tickets come up for renewal because if we are waiting for AW to resign we have a long wait, because he is to conceited and so up himself to resign.

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13 Mar 2016 17:21:10
Nice loyal fan to a manager who has brought you everything.

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13 Mar 2016 17:38:43
What a frustrating time to be a Gunner I concur with you @Heybridge. However, there are certain issues I don't agree with you. I don't think Arsene doesn't tell his players to score first and defend their goal. Lack of leadership on the pitch is the teams drawback. Arsene needs to sign two leaders to help Cech carry the team forward. Sanchez, Ozil, Ramsey etc are good players but not "Ninja's" who can turn the game in our favour when the going is tough. Buy leaders (2 or 3) , keep the current tactics and we will win the league. Secondly if I was a season's ticket holder never was I going to boycott a match to try and force the board to lower ticket price or fire the coach. I would support the team week in week out. The team is low on confidence, booing and boycotting matches will only make it worse. Too much negative energy from the fans. I will surely judge Arsene and his boys when the season ends. As for now I will keep believing in the team to deliver the league.

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13 Mar 2016 17:40:28
And lost it very quickly NE.

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13 Mar 2016 16:02:57
If I'm being honest Id like AW to stay on at the club - but have NO say in who we buy. He has done superb for us but he is dated and we have gone back for many years now, what a shame if we finish outside of the top 4 ( Ithink we will ) . In terms of where we will sit in the league we could be no better off than when he first joined.

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13 Mar 2016 18:52:55
Even if he had no say in who we buy he still has a say in who he plays and wenger being stubborn and also so loyal to "his" players who's to say the new players would get on infront of his own players arteta would be aged 40+ and still be played infront of a 30mill new player, my opinion is move wenger up stairs and start fresh.

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13 Mar 2016 16:36:42
Its impossible for him to stay and have no input.

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13 Mar 2016 15:58:15
Top four is looking very dodgy, so what will be said when we are outside of that?

The Wenger pro boys who defended him in the transfer window ( Summer 2015) This has to be the worst run for years.

He kept faith in Arteta / Rosicky and flamini ROFL . as I and many others said at the time. comical and foolish, and now we are paying the price.

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13 Mar 2016 16:35:30
The Wenger fan boys would give out a lot of stick won't be around now. Sad but true. Some people could see it coming. Some take a little longer. That's life.

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13 Mar 2016 15:47:58
One question and one comment from me:

Question
Besides greed, what other factor gives us the right to charge what they do for tickets. We have one of the highest, if not the highest ticket price in Europe. Why?

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If Wenger really loves Arsenal as he claims, he should do the honourable thing and resign. I think he has taken the team as far as he can and should hand over to someone younger. He is our best coach in history and I would like to see him go with the dignity he deserves. If he continues on like this, I worry he will lose the fanbase completely and he will be hounded incessantly next season.

Our star players must also be starting to get frustrated. If Wenger stays on, I think they will not think twice about jumping ship if good offers are put on the table.

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13 Mar 2016 16:04:06
There is no need for ticket prices to be so high with the amount of money coming into the game from TV deals now. The percentage of income that comes from Match day tickets is now so minor clubs should reward fans and bring prices down.

In answer to your comment. Every dog has its day and Wenger no longer has what it takes to motivate his players has lost his pulling power and mojo in the transfer market and does not know how to create a balanced and effective team, square pegs in round holes. He has been proven to be tactically inept in the big pressure games. Wenger has no answer to the clubs that now have much superior spending power.

My fear now is keeping the top players we do have for next season. A New Manager needs to come in and be given a big transfer budget to sort our squad out. Its weather the complacent board have the balls to sack Wenger.

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13 Mar 2016 16:51:26
Only reason prices are so high is Kroenke and Gazidis

As Ryan says income from tickets is a small part of the clubs overall income and there is no reason why they couldn't be cut apart from the money grabbing yank

Quicker he goes the better as long as he is replaced by someone who wants trophies rather than cash and to use the club as security to buy themselves ranches

Yes we have to deal with the problem Wenger has become but that problem runs much deeper and goes all the way to the top

One ed on here once challenged me on a complaint about Kroenke failure to invest. The counterclaim was its wengers fault because he didn't spend but that's just rubbish. Kroenke is supposed to be the boss and he should be forcing Wenger to spend and do whatever else is needed to win and challenge for silverware of by sacking him if he doesn't deliver. He's clearly done neither which shows he is focuses on cash not trophies and that's rubbed off on Wenger

The buck always stops at the top and this is no different.

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13 Mar 2016 15:46:54
Always reserved judgement on arsene as he's done enough to have earnt patience

Sadly it's time for new blood but who is available (excluding childish dream of Henry etc) ?

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13 Mar 2016 16:09:27
Who do we realisticly want? Realistically is the key word of course but availability is usually down to desire, Benzema wasn't available in the summer only because we didn't offer what it took to make him available.
Utd never made Ranaldo available but Real wanted him enough to make him available same with Bale.

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13 Mar 2016 15:46:21
No wonder. I already predicted.

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13 Mar 2016 15:43:49
Well another shocker. Well done to Watford but our players just can't handle it when the pressure part of the season is on to actually win something. We are far too open and easy to score against and there seem little pride and urgency in actually wanting to defend. Down the other end we lack ideas and variety open up packed defences and the fishing is inconsistent to say the least.

Season over. Wenger needs to go.

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13 Mar 2016 15:37:14
Γ–zil's too good for us, if I were him I'd get on the first flight to Munich tomorrow. Feel sorry for him playing with a bunch of donkeys. Mertersacker never been up to it, Gabriel either.

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13 Mar 2016 16:18:59
Not sure he'd get in there team.

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13 Mar 2016 15:27:15
Watford have confirmed what we all know!
Fair play Watford enjoy Wembley.

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13 Mar 2016 15:36:18
Woof woof.

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13 Mar 2016 15:15:24
Things are looking better in the management at Newcastle at the moment. Worrying times ahead with this form.

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13 Mar 2016 12:47:31
Happy with team selection - solid middle of midfield and a strong front line. Good attacking options on bench although our injuries leave defensive cover a bit light.

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13 Mar 2016 14:55:09
Just need a couple of goals now.

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13 Mar 2016
The real time live chat page is open for today's Arsenal match at the below link for you to talk to each other during the match
Arsenal Live Chat page

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13 Mar 2016 10:15:28
Barca warmed up for their game with us. let's hope we are half as impressive.

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{Ed025's Note - i think we can all give up on that one steve, i expect a weakened team from arsenal for that one as the main focus will be the league and fa cup if it goes well today mate..

13 Mar 2016 10:42:58
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The sensible thing to do is leave Ozil and Sanchez, Kos also at home .

AW is foolish if he believes this can be dragged back.

Pack the midfield out and don't cross the halfway line I say.

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{Ed025's Note - im all for that BG, as much as i would love to think it could be turned around..it wont, so prioritize i say and concentrate on the cup and outside chance of the league, but its vital also that CL qualification is sealed as we dont want any excuses for not buying some top quality players next season mate..

13 Mar 2016 10:57:32
Spot on. the unthinkable might actually happen, finsih outside the top 4 . that is possible.

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{Ed025's Note - liverpool and west ham are waiting in the wings to pounce if there are any slip-ups BG, and there are some tricky games coming up for arsenal, not least the everton game next week mate..

13 Mar 2016 11:09:33
Everton a W Ham a and M City a that could quite easily = 3 defeats
or even 3 draws .3 wins I doubt very much.

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13 Mar 2016 13:33:15
I want us to pkay the absolute best team we possibky can against barca. Of course its going to be difficult to turn it atound. But to resignate and let barcelona walk over us in the champions league shows a lack of integrity that i would not want to identify my self with as an arsenal fan. As much as i want us to win the pl and/ or fa cup.

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13 Mar 2016 14:12:15
Totally agree Rat. Why would you not do anything different in the Champions League. Play your best team and go for the win, sure you can do it.

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13 Mar 2016 08:41:41
If you could have a massive clear out of players at Arsenal without any worry of replacing them for whatever reason you may have who would they be? For me in no particular order.
Mert
Ramsey
Wilshire
Walcott?
Gabriel
Debuchy
Arteta
Flamini
I'm sure I forgot a couple but this would do for starters.

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13 Mar 2016 09:25:51
I agree with everyone there except Ramsey. Why do you want to sell him?

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13 Mar 2016 09:37:27
Add a quality CB DM AMF and Striker and the rest would sort its self out naturally
Players like Aaron Theo Ox Gabriel Olly would either up their game to try and compete or ship out because they couldn't handle the competition, either way its good new for Arsenal football club apposed to the cosy club for a change.
For far to long we've had way to many players who
get far to much reward for archiving way to little,
change that culture and things will improve
dramatically.
4th place has been acceptable for so long now many of the squad conscious or subconsciously think it really is success and all they need to do to get a pay rise or new deal.

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13 Mar 2016 09:39:48
Paul V. Well Paul simply because in my opinion he was a one season wonder and that's been and gone and even then it was 2 years ago.

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13 Mar 2016 10:01:09
Ramsey is a good player and if he was at a club where the demands and expectancy of him to perform at a high level consistently he would respond, before his one brilliant season he was the clubs fall guy who everyone gave way to much stick to but now he's in the comfort zone with others.
Olly loses his place to Theo and he responds with fantsic form but once he's first choice for awhile he slacks off Welback returns in great form Olly responds again, to be fair to Giroud he has been saying for a couple of summers now how he wouldn't mind Arsenal signing a top striker as he would welcome the challenge so prehaps he knows himself he needs to be kept on his toes or he loses his edge and if so fair play to him.

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13 Mar 2016 10:14:05
Rosicky needs to be added but Id remove Ramsey and Gabs.

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13 Mar 2016 14:12:51
Jumble sale?

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13 Mar 2016 08:28:37
Fergie says Leicester will be champions with 3 games to spare, bit OTT that in my opinion.
I think they will win it and good luck to them if they do it will be a fantastic achievement but with 3 games to spare? No chance :-)

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13 Mar 2016 08:47:09
Gunner62. Well mate I wouldn't say no.
After all look at where they are now what were the odds at the beginning of the season for them to win it? The season 5001/ 1 wasn't it?

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13 Mar 2016 09:02:49
I'm not sure Chelsea won it by much more than 3 to spare last season and they were well ahead of second place for most of the season, good for Leicester if they manage it but that's a big ask of them to win it by the time May gets here.

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13 Mar 2016 10:15:29
So he is saying they will be 10 points clear come match day 36, NOT A Chance.

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13 Mar 2016 08:24:18
If anyone's interested I believe our total injuries in days so far for this season 2016/ 2016 amounts to nearly
1100 days of injury throughout nearly all our first team players.
Not bad going is it?!

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13 Mar 2016 08:30:44
Sorry that was supposed to read 2015/ 2016
But I'm sure you all gathered that 😑.

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13 Mar 2016 08:42:37
Jack Rosicky and Danny make up half that figure and were always going to miss most of the season plus you've got your treatment room regulars in Theo and Ox who are good for 90 days a piece if not more Aaron and Olly usually have a couple of months out each season too.
I don't think we're anymore or less fortunate with injures than anyone else infact the last time I checked the premier league injury table there were a dozen or more teams worse off than us, the difference with us is its the same players each and every season all out for roughly the same amount of time each and every season.

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13 Mar 2016 08:51:46
Yep you are absolutely right there mate and I suppose that's a big part of our problem. It's the same old faces making up the majority.
Why Arsenal put up with it season after season is beyond me. Loyalty can only stretch so far until you have to call it a day.

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13 Mar 2016 10:17:51
It will be of no surprise to tell you Leicester have used very few players, which will explain their consistency and position.

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{Ed025's Note - that makes their achievements this season even more impressive BG..

13 Mar 2016 10:41:59
And Chelsea used fewest last season too but injuries really aren't the only thing standing between us and being competitive but they are handy camouflage each and every season that's for sure.
Changing the mentality would be of far more benefit long term than continually finding excuses for consistently comming up short each season.

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13 Mar 2016 08:10:38
Just a short word on the Ramsey saga.
I find that a bit of a turn up for the books!
I remember when players use to fake injury to get out of playing for their country!
Ramsey seems to have turned that attitude on its head by doing it the other way round.
Personally! If we were not so short of players I would not have worried so much whether Ramsey was in or out. To me he is just a filler in. One season wonder I would put it. It's ridiculous the situation our club has put itself in. It reminds me of Sunday league when the manager has to ring up and inform the other team that the match is off as he has too many injuries and can't get a team together.

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12 Mar 2016 22:57:11
Regardless of your thought on the manager and players - tomorrow our team plays.

Hoping for a big win and a good performance to build upon

Good luck boys! πŸ†πŸ†πŸ†πŸ†.

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