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13 Sep 2014 23:32:03
Okay after a good game today not the result that we wanted but it's okay, so match of the day start with okay this is what arsenal done wrong! wTFlip they are so bias against us, we will learn then the year, arrogant SOB's
Ric there are lots of pluses, but lots of problems and while you may not like it, they probably have a point at the end of the day.
13 Sep 2014 22:59:00
Ozilbaggins
Re what area of my body I'm speaking from
Game of chess - Figure of speech
Also I never said any of those persons were better managers. Just better tacticians.
No other manager has achieved what Wenger has in terms of Club development.
And I honestly couldn't name some one else who could. Even Fergie hadn't the same hands on all areas approach Wenger has had.
When you talk about pre Ozil yes your correct and that's precisely why I'm more critical than I have been ever.
Reason being: We have two of the very best players in they're positions in the world Ozil & Sanchez.
Koscielny is surely in the top 10 cb in the world. Same could be said for Ramsay in CM. So what does that mean?
It means we have no more excusses!
And the problems we've been droning on about for years can't be papered over with
"we've no money for signings"
"we've a young team, next year we'll be better"
"well we had to sell our best player this summer"
"we're a man short of the title"
None of those excuses and more are good enough with the quality we have in that squad.
Time to ante up before the River.
Good post sheeny.
13 Sep 2014 23:42:31
Damn fine post.
Spoken from the heart.
13 Sep 2014 23:49:59
Well I hear that: I can only hope the wing issue will sort itself.
The question being how do we accommodate Wilshere, Ramsay and Ozil in the same 11 when they are all worth playing, when you have to have Walcott, Sanchez and Welbeck playing - it leaves us the DM short unless we play two CM's together.
Otherwise, all I ask for is time for Welbeck to bed in - we did show flashes of brilliance, and we have been really off form - think Leicester away, this was a totally different team
Spot on sheeny. Sadly I fear we will not progress as a wining team with Arsene. We will continue along the business course but other teams are now tactically much better organised than us & will continue to beat us
14 Sep 2014 19:44:18
Thanks saga. I'm certain we can do it wenger. But he needs to make some adjustments to his approach
13 Sep 2014 22:48:02
What was also noticeable was how physical M City were more so than previous games, we only really had Jack who could mix it.
Lets remember we have Villa, spurs and Chelsea coming up, stay unbeaten through those and I will be VERY pleased
SY 4 totally agree .
I've said it before, we need a physical presence in midfield, to protect our smaller technical players. Its another wenger blind spot.
13 Sep 2014 21:44:14
OK read a lot about ozil being played on the wing, and the Le Prof not noticing it, I mean come on that guy has been in charge at our club for 17 years or so, and I am sure he ought to know better than us. But its banter so let it go. I think everything will come alright once wallcott is back, ozil has to play every game that's simple, unless he is injured, Ozil isn't the player who is going to give u a stellar performance for 90 mins, he just needs maybe 10 of those 90 mins, to create/assist/score/Free kicks/Corners. a lot of players are like that, Hazard is just an example. Go over on the utd page and people still wonder how rvp and rooney get chosen ahead of wellbeck, even if they have poor performances in their positions week in and week out, its a simple fact its because they are RVP and rooney and will keep playing, hence Ozil is Ozil which is World Class. No Matter what people say he is turning into a torress at chelsea are totally wrong, I thought he grew into the game as it went on.
Some good points there hood but after 17 years of which in recent years we have been weak at defending set pieces, had a soft middle.
Arsene does allow the same weaknesses to be exposed time and time again season after season without addressing them.
Many commentators refer to the same old problems we suffer.
For years rover cars were renowned for head gasket problems as a common fault and I always wondered why not fix it if its that common, it baffled me.
So does Arsene
13 Sep 2014 22:27:23
The only thing that worries me about Wenger is he is too stubborn to do something about it if he is wrong.
Now, I am not saying he is wrong, but Ozil has played x amount of games on the wing, with only a handful of good games to show for it.
Yes, I know he still had quite a few assists last season, but his overall performances have been below par.
Last season is his settling in season and he can only be judged as this season ticks along, but in the meantime, I sometimes feel we are a man down every game.
Remember, this is a £42m world class player, world cup winner who has played for Real Madrid and Germany, not some young 18 year old who we signed from a small unknown French club, who needs time to settle.
If I buy a £250,000 Bugatti Veyron I wouldn't expect to have to run it in gently for the first 20,000 miles, I want almost instant acceleration and performance.
Harsh?
Ok ozil should not be on the wing, but he's a 42 mil player and he is not cutting it wing or not. Today a good manager should have hauled him off looked him straight in the eye and said, you do know why you have come off. he's got to give more, where ever he plays. he's got a responsibility to work for the team even if its on the wing, which for what its worth he shouldn't be on. This is the premier league and you have to stand up and do your bit. How much are we paying him for his services, I don't think he's giving us value for money, he wants to have a word with sanchez to see what's required as far as effort Iis concerned.
Ok Steve let's get rid of him, he's not Arsenal standard.
Shame because pre Arsenal he was some player
14 Sep 2014 01:43:19
I will never ever understand why so many of our fans seem to come down on a ton of bricks on players that don't perform. So many papers and pundits do that about people like ozil without us starting it. He hasn't been good enough need a reality check. Even one of the best number 10's took about a year to settle in at our club. And IMO the league is now harder than them. When ozil on a off day is still capable of something magical in a second. I've said it so many times with Ramsey Wilshere ozil just recent ones that getting on players backs do not help. Arsene said he couldn't play Rambo because of how much shit he was getting. Imagine if he left that summer because the way SOME or our fans behave
Decent post D but I don't think most people are on Mesut's back its quite a he opposite we all want him to be given his best chance by being played in his best position.
The the one most people are frustrated and angry with is Arsene for wasting him.
Do I want Arsene sacked no of course not, he has been fantastic for this club and deserves to do his 20 years because of the invincibles and the stadium alone but that doesn't mean his very strange decisions can't or shouldn't be questioned.
We are 4th place contenders under Arsene and unless suddenly he's going to change that's his limit in the modern game, 2 years 34 games To go to a real title challenge AT LEAST
14 Sep 2014 08:43:02
True. It just worries me that some of our fans see the Press and pundits over critical and join in. He was quiet yesterday and maybe I'm just wrong but I didn't think he played as bad as people have said. He made some good passes and runs with the ball. However yes not good enough. Thing is though it's hard to sub him off I think because he is capable of going something magic in seconds. It is frustrating though I do understand that
D16 the guy is on mega money, he ain't earning it at the moment, let's just stop moaning and enjoy his lack of effort instead.!
I think people have a right to have an opinion either way and instead of whinging because they don't agree with someone they should give good reasons why they disagree. My opinion is he's one of the reasons of many that we have a soft center and ignoring it is going to make more problems. If he's doing well, rightly he gets praised so if he isn't then he should also know about it, that life.
D I love the bloke no signing has excited me as much since Bergkamp, I just couldn't believe it when we signed them, its not often we sign truly top class players we make them but not sign them.
If Mesut was played in his number 10 role and failing it would be very disappointing but to see him stuck out on the wing? Madness.
Steve I know what your saying about money but if someone offered you 10 million quid to watch spurs for aseason would you do it?
If so could you do it well and enjoy it?
No matter how much you pay people the quality of their performance is higher if they enjoy what they do, money doesn't give immunity to human emotions it just buys conformity
To be fair I was expecting more from ozil. Especially this season. But like a few have said, he needs to play centrally. He said himself recently he prefers to be central. Other than that he wants to be on the right and cut in.
14 Sep 2014 12:14:02
Steve mate I'm not trying to start and argument or pick you out or anything so please don't think that. But do you ever have anything positive to say about our club. Most of your posts are so negative I've noticed. I've seen you criticise welbeck. Arsene ozil in recent weeks. They are our team. He is our manager. People moaning about it won't change it. And as I said I don't mean I pick you out ok. There is a few like you and a few like me who seem to disagree so don't take it personally ok
13 Sep 2014 21:24:21
I think what we saw today was what most have been saying. Exciting going forward without the killer instinct and same old problems in defence and poor decision making at vital times.
13 Sep 2014 21:50:27
Would be nice to see what would happen if we ever take the lead against the big boys (from 0-0).
How many years has it been since that happened. Yet another statistic we don't need Dags.
14 Sep 2014 09:05:18
Steve, I honestly can't remember mate.
13 Sep 2014 21:23:57
Not sure where my last post went, but as I was saying I have just watched the game again over the last 2 hours . I really don't get where some of you think we were totally outplayed and not in the same class, it was a very even game by two sides that matched each other.
Still wondering how Kompany doesn't get booked after pulling the shirt off of Alexis's back and yet Sanchez gets booked for taking his shirt off ( yes I know they are the rules) also wondering why Fernandinho didn't get a second yellow for kicking the ball away.
The second goal was very disappointing, we marked zonal and got it wrong, our tallest man Per was stood doing nothing and as for Shezza he was totally to blame, if he had let the ball go Flamini would have headed it out.
If's and but's I know but let's be happy with the point. As Wrighty, Scholes and Macca have said he have an abundance of attacking players but at the back. . . . .oh dear
13 Sep 2014 21:35:46
BG Said the same thing below and found it real strange :
"Kompany tries to pull Alexis's shirt off and effectively cheating - no card
Alexis scores and celebrates while taking shirt off in front of Home fans - gets booked
Something wrong with football
I thought there were significant patches in the game where we were far superior. The goal deflated us for the next period and the second half was a good performance again apart from the stupid headed goal.
Milner and Kompany should have been booked one more time for sure. City did ensure they broke up play with professionally timed and planned fouls
13 Sep 2014 21:44:56
Personally, I don't think there was anything in it.
Like a heavyweight boxing match, you lose some rounds, you win some rounds.
Like I posted earlier, what annoys me is, when we had all the possession in the first 20 mins, and were all over City, we don't convert.
City, one attack one goal and than we were on the back foot.
2nd half, to our credit, we looked good again, scored 2 good goals, and than City took over again, and equalised.
For me 50/50 in terms of possession, with City slightly edging us on chances.
The scoreline proves testament to that.
I don't understand where people were coming from saying we were the second best team to be honest
13 Sep 2014 21:06:29
Golds
Odil looked a bit better than he has been this season especially in the opening 20 but still below par but he does a lot off the ball without the ball / camera on him.
How did he play?
Did he shows signs of getting back to his best?
Sanchez and Welbeck looked good
Rambo looks a little off the pace
Thoughts?
Agree with you about ramsey - love the player but yesterday he was too busy trying to show off his range of tricks and gave the ball away incessantly
13 Sep 2014 20:27:50
Hi Banbury mate, regards post below on Ozil.
I remember that night of the deadline day like no other from last season, way above and hevfa cup final win.
I was like a ten year old kid at Christmas just waiting to hear the words done deal Mesut Ozil is an an Arsenal player.
I couldn't believe we had signed one other worlds very top players and the very best in the business at assists.
I couldn't believe it our rivals couldn't believe it every club in the premier league were envious of us.
And we play him out wide to accommodate others!
Heart breaking waste of talent money and the dreams of excited fans
13 Sep 2014 20:38:42
Agree G62,
But you got it spot on last month when you said "Why buy a Bentley and use it as a milkfloat?"
Messi or Ronaldo, take your pick, are the best players in the world.
Would they make great defensive mids?
No, they wouldn't.
Ozil out wide? Not for me thank you.
Only we could do this, that's how it feels, its embarrassing how we're wasting such a talent.
For a big name player to be a flop is not unheard of but to so blatantly played out of position and for what reason?
Real Madrid use to collect big players and try and fit them in somewhere but no disrespect to our other players but are we so loaded with world beaters that the Mesut Ozil we bought Sept 2013 wasn't good enough to be played in his best position?
If so why aren't we champions of England and Europe
13 Sep 2014 21:53:21
Sadly, I think we will be posting the same theme come the end of the season.
I pray I am wrong.
13 Sep 2014 23:02:45
Can not wait for Walcott to come back!
Wenger will HAVE to play Ozil in the centre!
13 Sep 2014 20:27:11
If I may, I'm just going to open up another post, based out what Sheeny said earlier.
Re Wenger's tactics.
Does he struggle in comparison to Mourinho and Pellegrini, to name but a few?
Are his starting formations/tactics too predictable?
Let's face it, we know he starts 4-5-1 every game and his sub's are normally like for like, ie take off Ox and bring on Rosicky.
In desparation he may occasionally go 2 up top by bringing on Sanogo to assist Giroud, which has had some success.
But for me, its not all about bringing players on. Sometimes you need to move the players who are on the pitch, as opposed to replacing them with somebody else.
For example, I didn't see it, but heard Chelsea were struggling at home to Swansea today. So, Mourinho pushed Fabregas 10 yards forward, thus changing him from a deep lying midfielder to an attacking mid.
Result, they turned a 1-0 defeat into a 4-2 win.
Also, and I have mentioned this many times, we play ticcy takky football all the time. Pass and move, pass and move, but sometimes its too easy to play against.
We always try to score a worldly goal involving 200 passes, when sometimes 2/3/4 passes produces the same result.
Do we have a plan B?
Also, is Wenger too nice?
Look at Mourinho ( Sorry to mention him again), but he has just got rid of Fernando Torres, Demba Ba, Samuel Eto'o and to a lesser extent, Lukaku.
He is ruthless, but look at Chelsea now. Serious title challengers.
Has Wenger turned into Mr Nice Guy, to the detriment of our club?
He is predictable in his set up and tactically way down the league. We make the same mistakes time after time and today ozil should have come off after 60 minutes, he was losing possession every time he got the ball and didn't influence the game at all. His substitutions are predictable and he takes the same players off time after time, just for the sake of a substitution.
The problem is Wenger outlook/philosophy on the game. He has never concerned himself with how the opposition will play and what their strengths and weaknesses are.
He just shows total un-wilting blind faith in his own team to win the game and find their own solution, basically let them worry about us outlook. He just gives them confidence and tries to install belief and let's them get on with it.
To me Wenger is a good coach but a poor manager come game time.
Wenger is like a father figure and his squad are his children so he shows total blind faith in their ability and just tries to build their confidence. To Wenger Belief and confidence are the only things that matter in terms of game preparation. How many times do we hear Wenger go on about these wolley attributes belief, confidence and character, every pre/post match interview basically. It drives me nuts.
To me those attributes are what every half decent player should have as base anyway, it should not need working on.
He displays very little tactical insight to what went right and what went wrong. For once I would like his post match interview to go into more detail and say the zonal system did not work today the 2nd goal was really sloppy, nobody attacked the ball. At least indentifying what went wrong would kind of give you more confidence that it is something he will work on in training.
Wenger needs to get his head from the fluffy clouds and start thinking about tactics and the team shape and balance. Playing the players like Ozil in their best positions for start would help alot.
Wenger though won't change he is just too stubborn stuck in his ways. Yes he was good when he first come on the screen but he came at the right time when the premier league was just starting to get more popular and exploited the foreign market to his advantage when he knew more about the foreign market at that time than anybody else.
Now he just looks to bring in as many technical ball players as he can and throws them all in more in hope that posession football is king than with any real plan. Most of the time we win games because of individual class not because of Wenger's tactics or game plan.
13 Sep 2014 22:12:37
Dead right about moving a man on the pitch. Perfect example. Move Ozil off the wing!
Something else to note. How many times do you watch a game a think Lord Carzorla (example) is having a stinker he should come off. You get excited to see Ox warming up but he takes off Wilshere (example) instead.
13 Sep 2014 23:33:00
Damn fine post Ryan.
Great assessment.
14 Sep 2014 00:27:20
Ryan agree 100% with how he approaches games and manages his players. Interviews get on my bits too :P
Bit controversial when talking about his early days etc. and I'm not going to get into that at this hour :P
But precisely what I said early that the individual talents in the team gets us very far.
All in all I just wish Wenger would adjust his perspective a bit. For such an intelligent man it's frustrating. I think he needs a fresh approach to his methods (He knows more about football than any of us let's face) and he could revolutionise the game all over again.
13 Sep 2014 19:42:57
Remy scored today.
Did I say that out loud?
13 Sep 2014 19:08:39
Isn't football a funny ol' game?
If we hung on for the win, we would all be jumping with joy, posting sweet posts, singing the praises of our heroes in red, calling Wenger a tactical genius and be proudly(ish) looking at the league table.
Damn it, I would have even promised Mrs Dag's (Dagette as I like to call her), a sexy time tonight.
Still, keep your fingers crossed for the Villa game, love.
So, one goal, and we are all disappointed, especially Dagette.
Like I said, its a funny ol' game.
But there are glatring reasons why we didn't hang on for the win.
14 Sep 2014 00:28:32
You give this page a certain spice dags :P
13 Sep 2014 18:17:33
Wheres us gooner these days? . Not heard ftom him in a while.
Usg where you at? The old school posters seem to ve leaving us. No raz, no ike, no Eman
13 Sep 2014 22:43:04
And Jenny and Flybo?
Add Dr Green to that missing people list
Do you know since I sent Jenny that nude picture I haven't heard from here since,
Hope she got the picture
13 Sep 2014 18:04:06
Ed,
I having been searching www. To buy a watch. Now on your site watches appear on your website.
If I then buy a watch by clicking thru to a site thru your site - do you earn a commission. If so, when I buy - I will do that to help generate income for the site.
Can you put on banter page as I am sure others will do the same to drive income for you to help support the great site
Thanks
{Ed001's Note - if you click through an ad on the site and buy something, yes we would. Thanks mate, but don't go buying one just to help us please!}
Ed001i think an awful lot of us would like show our appreciation to you and the many Eds, is this the only way or is ok there a better way?
Please would you post a list if such a thing is possible
{Ed001's Note - just saying thanks is a big start mate. Entering the comps, passing on the sites to friends etc would all be a big help thanks.}
13 Sep 2014 19:57:32
Ed001,
And a sneaky crate of Southern Comfort for Ed025? :-)
{Ed001's Note - oh yes, that always helps!}
Ok Ed that's cool mate.
If you and the many Eds wanted to nominate a charity that we could all make a Christmas donation to on behalf of utd the football rumours.co.uk. might be a nice touch from all the pages.
Put your Eds together:-) (sorry that was awful) if you think its a good idea.
And thanks again to you all
{Ed001's Note - that is a good idea that mate, we will have to pick a charity between us. Anyone any ideas for a good charity?}
13 Sep 2014 20:30:43
Great idea G62.
Ed, maybe we could put a post up asking what would be everybody's favourite charity?
How about the Willow Foundation. Charity started and run by Arsenal legend Bob Wilson.
Maybe a children's charity that we could all make a little difference to in the name of this site, just an idea.
Make a wish foundation, or maybe one that gives presents to kids who won't otherwise get one or how about a poll across the pages to see what the majority think.
Together we could make a nice difference somewhere
13 Sep 2014 21:00:51
Can we raise funds to buy a CDM and loan him to Wenger?
Thanks for the info - I guess we can purchase by passing thru your site for most things
Also - thanks for the great site
What about buying a hitman for the portuguese prat.
Count me in
Ed on my banner I just get russian women and cheap hotels, how does gunner get watches
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13 Sep 2014 18:14:44
Just got back from the Emirates. I thought we played really well. Wilshere played well, so did Welbeck and Kos.
Sometimes Szczesny worries me I never know what he is going to do lately he gets a bit complacent. Although he pulled off some saves that stopped us from losing.
But again! The set piece was our undoing. Always seem to fall for it. But anyway we never lost so that's a positive.
13 Sep 2014 20:31:39
Onwards and upwards mate.
13 Sep 2014 18:09:43
I don't want to drag up old names, the past is the past, but jeez, we had first refusal on Fabregas and he is running the show at Chelsea.
Could be the difference?
Cue the Fabregas posts.
DAGS
FAB wanted 200k, once you do that you open up the flood gate
Agree. Interesting that Chelski playing him in the deeper lying midfield role. He wouldn't be competing with Ozil in that position.
13 Sep 2014 19:38:57
That's a fair point Welsh.
13 Sep 2014 20:04:33
£30m on another CAM/CM? No thanks. We already have Cazorla, Ozil, Wilshere and Ramsey to cover 2 positions. If Wenger bought Cesc instead of Sanchez we would be moaning about lack of width, pace etc.
Its just tough sh** that he went to Chelsea and is taking the league by storm. If we bought Cesc then Chelsea would have just gone out and bought a different world class CM, such as Khedira, Vidal, Pogba, Pjanic, Kroos etc.
Wenger made the right choice.
13 Sep 2014 21:02:58
He wouldn't be competing with Ozil
We play him on the wing! Fab is CM
:)
13 Sep 2014 21:33:18
Fabregas, in his favoured position, could knock the spots off of anything we have, bar Rambo.
14 Sep 2014 00:30:29
I wonder when Wenegr said Fabregas position at Arsenal was filled by Ozil he would have had in mind to convert Fab to a winger! :P
13 Sep 2014 18:03:51
GOLDBOY
Re your post on Jack. spot on and totally agree
13 Sep 2014 17:51:08
I thought we'd lose 1 2 today so the result is ok, not title contending but where not to faroff that.
Just 2 years and 34 games to go, its all about opinions and mine is a manager who let the window close without buying a quality DM and continues to play Ozil on the wing dispite it not working game after game since he arrived will never deliver a title in the modern game.
No, I don't want him sacked but I'd love him to listen to what the vast majority of people continue to point out time and time again.
Under Arsene today is can point gained under a/title winning manager it's two dropped at home
You question le boss. He played a hot arshavin off world cup and 4 goals v the pool out of position on the wing for a couple of years and that worked out just fine. Why not the wizard of Oz!
13 Sep 2014 19:41:16
Why not the Wizard of Oz?
Because every time he has played there he has been crap and too pedestrianised.
May be he bought Danny boy as our new DM or 4th CB.
Genius or mad man, they say the line is thin, well Arsene's been a long time on the wrong side of it since his genius days
Dags was being cynical - think wenger destroyed Arshavin sadly. Hope he does not do the same to Oz. ;-((
13 Sep 2014 23:35:26
Sorry Cangun,
I read your post wrong, lol.
Totally agree mate.
13 Sep 2014 17:20:19
Forgot to mention in my post.
Take a bow Jack, you were awesome.
14 Sep 2014 00:36:49
Glad to see people back on team Jack and love seeing him play well.
I think today was only 70% his former best so it would be wonderful to see him progress back to full form. Major season in the works.
He linked up nicely a few times with Ramsay today in an almost pivot between them.
Ramsay assisted Wilshere. Wilshere dinked a lovely ball in for Ramsay pity he tried it first time.
Anyway, I think the reason we didn't buy a DM is that Wenger has the view of playing them deep with each having a chance to make runs while the other sits. Then to have Ozil free roaming behind Sanchez/Welbeck/Walcott.
Can't wait for a full strength full form team.
13 Sep 2014 17:20:16
Did welbeck really cost twice the price of remy there or there abouts.
So wenger didn't sign a centre back. Could come back to haunt him. he's let us down again I feel. And il state again we are weaker than last year
A draw is good. But city didn't have jovetic yaya fernando. Dzeko nasri mangala on the bench. And that's the difference for me.
DERBY
may you enlighten us as to how we are weeky, because I think we are stronger
So you would have played jovetic over augro.not for me
Or where you hoping their played 14, lol only joking
Arsenal were also missing Walcott and Gibbs mate
13 Sep 2014 22:24:20
Add Giroud and Diaby as injured and missing.
Both teams were missing players
13 Sep 2014 17:13:56
Where to start?
1) Happy with Welbeck. He will score goals but should have buried that one.
2) showed great character to come back from 2-0 down at Goodison, showed same character today, in part.
3) Sanchez. What a beast, what a player, what a goal.
4) A point at home against the champions is decent.
Negatives.
1) why, when we play the top teams, and we have a period of sustained possession, and its 0-0, do we not score a goal?
Why are we always chasing the game.
We had possession, we had chances, but City scored with their first decent attack.
When Aguero scored, that was the 7th shot on goal we have faced this season, and 5 have hit the back of the net.
2) Ozil. Useless as a winger, not good enough or strong enough.
Better than The Ox out wide? Never. Better than Podolski out wide? Never.
Play him down the middle or sell him. We won't win anything playing with 10 men every week.
3) Zonal marking? Yes its brilliant, yes its fantastic, FOR THE OPPOSITION, NOT US.
Said it before and will say it again.
Title contenders? No.
Top 4 contenders? Yes.
Early days, but 6 points behind Chelsea already and Costa 7 goals in 4 games, plus my boy Remy chipped in with a goal.
Totally agree on Ozil and our place in the grand scheme of things DG.
We have maintained our top four contender credentials but are as far away from a real go at the title as ever.
Chelsea look red hot favorites and in my opinion only city will give them a run for their monry if anyone does
DG and G62, good posts, totally agree.
COYG andi
14 Sep 2014 00:38:49
Good post mate
13 Sep 2014 17:05:16
You can't keep having a pop at Ozil if he is continuously played out of position.
Maybe we should try him in goal?
13 Sep 2014 17:15:57
I don't think anybody is having a pop at Ozil mate, but while he is out wide, he is a passenger and an unwarranted luxury.
Would you have a pop at wenger for playing him there?
Its clearly not working. he passed up on cesc because ozils the best no10 in the game.yet he sticks him out wide.
I agree ozil HAS TO BE NO10.
it was his play that allowed rambo to score a great deal of goals with late runs last year, those 2 with theo worked brilliantly.
we have ox, we have joel, poldi. cazorla and rosicky are better out wide than ozil, oh and gnabry!
He should be either no 10 or not on the pitch
Naw he'd run the other way if the ball was shot at him. his effort in the tackle is embarrassing. Many of us want him to do well because he's proven and cost us a lot, but the truth is if we did a straight swap for someone like mascherano we'd be a more balance team as we have many that can replace him in the mid
But don't you think we could have bought a better left winger for a lot less Banbury mate?
Either don't buy Ozil or buy him and play him to his strengths.
I'm lost as to why Arsene signed him at all, pre Arsenal he was a world star now he's?
G62
No one on here complained we were jumping through hoops at the signing. remember?
I don't think for one minute any of us thought Wenger would throw Ozil out there
14 Sep 2014 00:54:17
He gets played out of position. None of us like it. Least of all him, his talents are being undermined in a position he's not even adequate at playing in.
At the end of the day Ozil's talent is in being able to pick the pass nobody else sees. In the middle of the park he has every range of motion with dynamic players in every position surrounding him.
On the wing his range and runners are cut by half. It neutralizes his greatest strength by virtue of the fact that for the opposition there is almost no pass they can't read from wide positions.
It's either held up and recycled with a short pass or is put into the box. That's why the best wingers have blistering pace and great dribbling skills so that they can create they're own space behind the full back. Forcing the defensive line to drop further back and allowing the attack to press into the box at pace.
So much of his problems for form then are not his fault.
However, my biggest criticism of Ozil is that once it's not going his way he becomes completely despondent . At times today he looked to be simply sulking when losing the ball, not doing anything to retrieve it. Far enough you have high standards for yourself and from everyone else but lord all mighty that doesn't mean you get to drop the head so easily. I think sometimes he just needs to man up and get on with it.
13 Sep 2014 16:41:00
Chelsea are showing why they are hot favourites for the title
13 Sep 2014 17:17:36
Agree mate.
Said it before, now that they have found their new 'Drogba' (Costa), they are the team to beat.
Gonna smash it.
thought costa would flop, boy was I wrong.
cesc runnibg tbe show every game by all accounts
Didnt they go 10 wins last year then the wheals came off.
Tell you now city won't be far away, niether will us
Chelsea are a very different side this time around. . Costa and Fabregas.say no more.
Chelsea . undefeated in the PL this year IMO
Chelsea have not really been tested so far. Everton would have been the guys to stretch them but they imploded withing 10mins. Next week they play City. Time to see what they are made of
14 Sep 2014 01:00:39
Fair point rue. I thought that myself but honestly? I'm afraid they might do the season unbeaten.
Even the fixture list is perfect for Mourinho.
Most of they're big games come all at once with long stretches against the lower teams in between.
With the lead they have over the rest of the pack they can approach the big games for a point and have nothing to worry about so long as they maintain there cushion in the big stretches.
They can upset the momentum of the other teams by purposefully grinding out horrible draws and not affect they're own trajectory.
Getting scary. It's primed to be their year. let's just hope City put manners on them next week. and we do the business soon after
13 Sep 2014 16:16:03
I've read a couple of post which I thought were very negative - really we played very well today - the only two negatives were debuchy and Ozil out wide again, which I don't get.
The positives - Welbeck did well, Sanchez really is world class, So is possibly JW still, inside there somewhere, Ramsay and him will get better together.
More importantly there is a really good team spirit in the squad - I think we will do well this season, no reason we can't go for the title. Bellerin will have to cover, Gibbs is back, the big miss is Carvalho or DM - with that we would be getting close to a great team
BAGGINS
Some of our fans deserve a better team, Maybe Barca or Madrid, or even Bayen.
I agree with you I thought it was the best we played, still bedding in some new signings.
Or Chelsea, city, United, dorrmund, athletico, juventus. Welsh you are deluded.
13 Sep 2014 16:49:09
We played well for two 10minute stints either half. That's it. It's not negative it's fact.
City were walking through our midfield in 2nd half and we struggled for rhythm with Fernadinho managing to hold off our midfield on his own.
Lateish in the 2nd half he moved more centrally & moved the ball around much better he is never a left winger
To be fair welsh is Arsene player Szczesney and Ospina at the same time as strikers you'd say Arsene was right
GUNNER62
Bit harsh.
You might be right.but still a bit harsh
Sorry Welshno offence ment mate I'm just embarrassed that we've ruined our record buy and turned a world beater into a stick for others to hit us with.
Apologies Welsh
13 Sep 2014 20:56:03
I'm more interested in what this is doing to Ozil than giving a toss what other fans think. For a player who is clearly confidence based, I'm ashamed the way Arsenal 'fans' - and I use that word losely are giving him stick on the net. Very poor
13 Sep 2014 15:59:21
I thought ozil was much better second half, playing down the middle.
I don't know why the ox doesn't get more starts, he is more effective on the wings than ozil or cazorla.
Fingers crossed that debuchys injury looked worse than it was. Defence is looking shaky enough.
Good thing is our squad depth in midfield and up front.
Not completely displeased but feel we should have hung on for the win
13 Sep 2014 16:50:25
He was useless in the second half. especially when he losts balls he should no desire to get back into it. Spent too much time looking at his shoes
Squad debt up front? You mean giroud, WELBECK and sonogo? If this is depth then I don't wanna k know what you think shallow is. A one legged midget target man perhaps?
K
Give us you wisdom on who we should have bought, from whati heard we inquired about two top players but where told they aren't for sale
13 Sep 2014 15:30:32
So, erm, any thoughts on Jack Wilshere gents:)
Probably the second best game I've seen him play for us. Maybe he logs on here on reads the posts:)
13 Sep 2014 16:18:26
He'd have more sense than to do that surely. .although I haven't .
Yep
Jack deserves his dosh today for sure
13 Sep 2014 15:29:08
We got out of jail today. Could have lost that 5-2.
Here's a question
20 managers in the Premiership. Who's the WORST tactician?
Wenger features worryingly high I'm afraid
You're ridiculous.
Sheeny
Got to disagree mate .mater of fact think your a wenger out guy, can't wait for him to fail.
I think we well the best team on the day
Im guessing you counting them hitting the post, yet not ours.
Enough said thibk that some you up
sorry if you think i'm having a go,
But got to be your worst post yet
City had the brtter chances hit post twice one disallowed for fractionally offside. We were not the better team
Sheeny and AG - the two most negative guys on the page, and chairs of the Wenger our brigade. Sometimes I somewhat agree with things you guys say, but the rest of the time you seem so bitter you just want us to fail.
You got to question rhe manager. All aspects of his management are poor.
Tactics - ozil on wing, 4-5-1 EVERY SINGLE GAME no matter what. Zonal marking.
buys - no athleticism in midfield, short in defence, way to many players of a similar ilk. Sanogo
The frustrating thing is he's always a day late and a dollar short. He was the best, but ithers have caught up and surpassed him
ORIGINAL
Mate .Yes offside, marginal or not, its off
We hit the post, Hart made some great saves
We played what I think we be the champions and I think we held our own
AG
Last season away at M City we had 2 goals disallowed and should have had a penalty, swings and roundabouts
Cs put forward an argumentbagainst any of my points. Ozil wax crap, city had the better chances, we run out of energy, szcz messed up and zonal marking cost us.
So what if i'm wenger out, its a banter page isn't it, if I wanted to debate with someone who agrees with everything I say i'd talk to myself.
Welsh, give up, some people are just so stubborn they see what they want to see. There's no changing their mind.
Touche banbury ill give you that.
Cs the assertion I want us to fail is absurd,
theres nothing I've seen of us under wengerbin the last 5 yrs that makes me think he will EVER win the league or cl. I don't want him as manager but ill never ever want us to fail.
if he proves me wrong then humble pie I shall eat.
13 Sep 2014 17:08:47
Welsh I'm not a Wenger out guy. You're just making that up.
The truth of the matter is we were tactically stagnant today. As we usually are. We got through based on the talents of the individuals in the squad not by merit of how we approached the game.
This is where my criticisms lie. Ag is right formation never changes. We're readable. And we have no plan b when things go wrong. Only last minute subs today except Debuchy's injury. Normally it's the same subs like clockwork 60mins if we're losing bring on pace. 65mins if it's a draw bring on ball carriers. 70mins if we're winning double sub FW and defence Mid player with a full back coming in 80/85mins.
Personally I'm not bothered with zonal marking. It cost us today but it's not a dramatic problem in the season long scheme of things as far as I'm concerned.
Ozil on the wing, doesn't work. Need I say more?
I'm sad to say we've been tactically stagnate for 3/4 years now. That's not good enough.
As for the most conceited prat on the site I chose a while ago not to dignify it's ****talk with responses.
I love Wenger I don't want him out. I want him to succeed more than his own mother wished it for him. But he's not the innovator that he used to be. I find that sad
Wenger's tactics are appalling. It amazes me to see people still defend him. Best said above. Same EVERY SINGLE GAME
13 Sep 2014 17:26:35
Sheeny, I thought your first post was terrible.
However, your 2nd post fully justified everything you said.
Fair play mate, you put up a good argument.
13 Sep 2014 19:16:02
Thanks dags. the point isn't too needlessly lambaste the man but when I do a list
Mourinho
Pelegrini
LVG (although he tinkers too much IMO)
Rodgers
Martinez
Monk(has a long way to go yet be early promise)
Poyet
Pochetino
Redknapp
Tony Pulis isn't in a job atm
How does he fair?
And Wenger wouldn't exactly shame Big Same/Pardew/Hughes in a game of chess.
Obviously the man has it in him. He revolutionised the game in Britain. Surely that doesn't just leave you? But then I think what if we cast the net Europe wide. Where does he end up then?
All without ever even mentioning Fergie
I just want to know what happened to the genius that assembled the invincibles. And I want that man to manage Arsenal. Not any other manager. The best Wenger Wenger can be. He bleeds Arsenal like I do. Why would I want anybody else?
13 Sep 2014 21:13:58
This is without doubt the biscuit taker of the day 'And Wenger wouldn't exactly shame Big Same/Pardew/Hughes in a game of chess.'
Hard to say this without sounding offensive, but you are talking out of your backside. In terms of intelligence Wenger probably has the IQ of the entire list put together.
Tactically, only two are better overall managers from your list.
It's only a bit of banter mate, but please get a grip. Last year before Ozil we were all in the dumps, now we actually have a shot - remember we weren't that far off the title last year with a worse squad, and Ramsay and Wilshere out half the year.
13 Sep 2014 15:19:00
No satisfaction from that game. I think it highlighted once again some resl frailties
Ozil on the wing. Again. Totally ineffective and impotent. For 45m he should be able to adapt his game, but he cant. If he isn't in the middle he shouldn't be on the pitch.
zonal marking. Again. For the umpteenth time we conced from a set piece.
Szczesny. Yet again he messes up in a big game. Costs us 2 points against a team wenger will call our rivals. City are not our rivals, city are going for the leage, were aiming for 4th.
Lack of athleticism. By 80 mins cityc team of massive yet eloquent central core wore our midfield down, powering through our diminutive twinkle toed midgets. Looking at the game objectively they could have won it at the end, just an offside and 2 uprights saved us
3 positives.
Jack showed us what he's cspable of. Best game in ancarsenal shirt since barca at camp nou.
alexis. man he's kwality. World class goal from a world class player. gosl deserved to be a match winner.
finally I thought welbz done well. prsy to god he's not injured, I never want to see Sanogoal in an arsenal shirt again
We were using zonal marking last season, we hardly conceded a goal from a set piece.
This season we've already conceded three. there's a reason the top clubs don't use it. Its rubbish
They do use it.
I sence the wenger out gang are suracing, even though we havnt lost a game, and played to top 5 sides
I bet their wanted us to sign falcash for £265,000 a week.
The only thing i'm disapointed about is OUR fans on here,
Like comments we are playing for fourth .bet Manchester United would take that, and look at what they have spent
CS
the wenger out gang don't want a fact like that getting in the way of a good moan.lol
Welshy no I didn't want falcao, byball means put forward a reasoned counter argument but don't just revert to deciding what I want or didn't want this club to do.
costa scored a hattrick today. I thought he was a one-season wonder, I was clearly wrong.
im not wrong when I say city were better.
no toure
more possession
The better chances over 90 mins
13 Sep 2014 15:17:16
Lets all take a deep breadth and imagine how our boy of gold (goldboy) must be feeling right now, after that wilshire performance Again!
Oh god don't start him off. We're going to get an 8 paragraph essay later now, and another keyboard battle!
THE HOOD. You boys just don't get it do you. I am PLEASED Wilshere had a good game today. That's what I expect him to play like. My previous posts are all about his previous performances.
If he carries on like that that's great.
God there are some weal rankers on here lately.
13 Sep 2014 18:16:06
Goldboy is not anti-Wilshere, he just wants, like the rest of us, for him to start performing week in week out.
Goldboy speaks his mind and backs it up with facts/statistics.
Fair play.
13 Sep 2014 19:23:44
At times I've never seen eye to eye with goldboy , but I fully get that what he says and why he say's it is out of passion for the club and the players, so let's not blow raspberries because he had an opinion about Jack.
Ps he has got it wrong on Sanogo though.
13 Sep 2014 20:40:07
There's one weal ranker in particular Golds. I don't get how some people don't understand that criticism doesn't mean dislike.
Then when you elaborate you're point the worst rankers don't even bother defending they're point. They're more interested in attacking the commenter and not the comment.
Sheeny mate. I don't expect people to agree with everything someone says. But on the other hand I don't think it's right to give someone a personal coating on here. But do you know what mate? For some people the keyboard was the best invention since sliced bread. They can take liberties insulting people and get away with it. Let me just let people into a secret . Last week at the same time Stoner decided to slate me again I just found out my mother had Cancer. My son had a heart defect diagnosed in the same week and I came on here to read his comments again. You wonder why I was angry, now you know why.
13 Sep 2014 15:00:42
Shame that we didn't win, but it's not a terrible result.
Sanchez is quickly becoming one of the Premier League's best players. Welbeck was bright at times but mostly quiet. MOTM however, was definitely Wilshere. He had a great game and took his goal well. Hopefully more of the same from him.
Some of us agreed to judge him over the first ten games before the season started v Crystal palace, the last two games have been very impressive both today and they CL league game.
Keep it going on the pitch Jack and quite off it and the worlds your lobster.
13 Sep 2014 15:00:41
Dubuchy off to Hospital does not look good, Already down to bare bones, let's prey Kos and Mert can stay fit else we are in trouble.
13 Sep 2014 14:51:16
Great game of footy that, jack looks like he is actually stepping up his progress and form, just feel we could of won that by a margin had we a proper dm . Anyway, all in all can't complain. Bit light defensively once u look past our starting defenders.worry worry
I don't think we saw a potential Premier league winner in either side today
13 Sep 2014 14:50:57
Well played boys - love the attack
Ozil starting to look better
like the defence - just need CDM sorting as Flamini waves his fingers too much plus bombs forward when he needs to concentrate on his job.
Fair result - interesting if Danny had scored first or Kompany had seen red! We seriously competed and will be top 3 but not there to get any higher
Fingers crossed for Debuchy
13 Sep 2014 15:17:02
Liverpool fan here mate.
Ozil starting to look better?
My God. You watching old Real Madrid Game?
13 Sep 2014 15:32:16
Would love to take a look at your TV SY4. Ozil was muck
13 Sep 2014 14:48:24
So Kompany drives to pull Alexis's shirt off and effectively cheating - no card
Alexis scores and celebrates while taking shirt off in front of Home fans - gets booked
Something wrong with football
13 Sep 2014 15:19:27
I meant tries to. Not drives
13 Sep 2014 14:45:22
Damn 2-2 another set piece let down, knowone picking him up with this zonal system, free header a good header mind.
Two well taken goals from Wilshire and Sanchez. Ozil totally anonymous out wide why Wenger plays him there is anyone's guess as is totally in effective there, surely Wenger can see this. If you can't play him centrally don't play him atall and use Ox instead, let's actually play with 11 men.
Wellbeck did O.K unlucky with the chip.
Sloppy first goal to concede Flamini losing his man.
Love Ozil but hope he's sold in January, what Arsene is doing to him is sad to watch, he's not a winger so it would be best for all to let him go asap
13 Sep 2014 14:44:55
A very good point IMO, as I said draw both games home and away to M City and Chelsea and we will have a real chance, 25% of the way there.
Jack done well today and started to answer some critics. me one of them.
Came from behind to lead 2-1 showed great character, a bit disappointed to concede with so little time left but we will learn from it.
Still unbeaten .
IMO Chelsea are our only real test left at home, the rest we should really be looking for 3 points against .
No complaints from me
Hi, agree.
I was worried, but the lads did well, and came back.
very pleased, need to get some wins, mind you:):)
COYG andi
We should win every home game. Today showed were not in city's class
Wasnt the problem with our away games rather than home last season. We drew chelsea and city and beat pool. The issue is on the away game.
The issue is getting points v our rivals.
against city, chels and pool last yr we won one out of six. Drew 2.
5 points from 18.
Gotta beat your rivals at home to win the league
HOOD
Which is why I have said draw home and away against City and Chelsea alike and we can have a chance
BANNERS
I agree mate, thought the new lads did ok
Ramsey looked like his best game sofar.Jack, well totally ran the midfield.
Fernadino could have had two yellows.Flamini, I think would have headed it of, but shezza dived and did his best.
Green shoots showed today,
Or draw with then twice and then it is even eh?
13 Sep 2014 14:35:00
How on earth is Milner still on the pitch? He's commited at least 4 yellow card offences and has not even been cautioned!
13 Sep 2014 15:25:15
So true - then Debuchy first tackle back on him gets a yellow.
How did Kompany stay on the pitch - has the ref let him leave the pitch yet?
13 Sep 2014 11:50:07
Ozil on the left again. Same awful formation again.
Yep like playing with 10 men again Ozil totally not in the game out wide. He needs to play centrally as the attacking midfield fulcrum.
Wenger did the same with Arshavin and does the same with Cazorla it is just reducing our effectiveness, like I say it sometimes feels like were are playing with 10 men.
Wenger for some reason does not like natural wingers and just fits all these technical central players in to the determent of the team balance. I said this lots of time like a broken record and it never gets addressed.
Bring Ox on for Ozil, But you know Wenger won't do that and leave it to his usual token subs at around 80 Mins.
Wellbeck has done ok but needs to put these clear chances away, although he very confident at the moment so you can understand why he went with the chip rather than a side foot.
Arsene bought the best no.10 in the business and undisputed king of assist and turned him into the premier league worst winger.
Only Arsene knows why
13 Sep 2014 14:11:35
No offense gunners
but as a neutral in respect to the match Ozil has been shocking
13 Sep 2014 14:41:57
Even Mata out wide is far better than Ozil.
13 Sep 2014 14:46:27
Maybe Arsene is hoping that if he plays Ozil on the wing like he did Ramsey he'll turn him into the midfield genius he already was!
How much sense does it make, Zero.
13 Sep 2014 14:50:41
Didnt Ozil still manage to get an assist for Wilshere?
13 Sep 2014 08:39:22
MESUT OZIL now is the time to step up to the plate, you now have the kind of players you thrive on (welbeck, Sanchez, ) threading those killer balls through to, it is time to show us the class we know you have and start repaying the loyalty and patience that has been shown to you.
Welbeck to score 1st assisted by ozil.
He needs to be played at No.10. Of course he has been pretty awful this season. Anyone would be played out of their position. Wenger has a habit of playing No.10's on the wing i.e. Ozil, Cazorla, Arshavin.
Agreed g95,
Today I would have welbeck up top, Ozil number 10 roll, Ox on right Sanchez on left and Ramsey and wilshere in the middle, no holding midfielder as such I feel these are the games Arteta's lack of pace gets exposed in.
13 Sep 2014 08:12:56
Everyone's run out of jokes (hopefully) and got nothing else to say.
Went to the chippie last night and said Cod and Chips twice please. The guy said " it's ok sir, I heard you the first time"!
13 Sep 2014 09:01:18
Bit of nervous anticipation me thinks Rocky. I'm quietly confident.
No doubting City are a top team but they can be beat, we have to stay in the game and be on it from the off.
Really looking forward to seeing the line up as chances are Ramsey will be out.
I'd like to see Sanchez, Chamberlain and Welbeck up top, give Kompany and Demechelis something to think about.
Us not playing to high a line would be good too.
Surely Arsene won't play a high line again?
I know he's stubborn but surely not.
It would really kick start our season if we beat city today, a win against them would put to bed our top team phobia and have us all buzzing
If he plays high up the pitch we will get beat
13 Sep 2014 04:19:16
I feel there is a bit of a ball rolling on the issue of our 'weak' midfield against teams like City and Chelsea, so I just wanted to counter a few points. Not attacking anyone about it, it's just how we see the game in the end.
There is the idea that we needed a player brought in to take up the role of defensive midfielder; in the sense that he's a physical unit, won't be bullied or intimidated, in fact taking that to the opposition, and will allow our forwards to express themselves without restraint. I have problems with this in that there is a lot of fear and negativity floating around about our prospects without this person, and a lot of anger towards Wenger and the management for not signing this person.
First things are that I followed all the stories about targets for this position, and come the end of the window I was left wondering who we should have signed? Schneiderlin was blocked, Rabiot was not a defensive player and not first team anyway, Carvalho was in a sense untried, and damn expensive, Bender was not moving, Pogba/Vidal never moved and were really expensive if they had, Khedira was a huge saga, and that was proved a wise decision with his obvious fitness struggles. I think we all wanted a player in, but then even this list is full of very different types of footballers, so what did we actually want? When Khedira seemed likely the talk was about how we could run two box to box guys with Rambo/Wilshire. We were excited that Carvalho was a beast. Looking at the midfielders who did move, are there any that we'd have wished for retrospectively? Sandro, Fernando, Colback, Besic, Medel, Song?
What do we think Wenger wants here? I've said it before, but I think Arteta is almost perfect. He is unfortunately not a naturally physical footballer, and his age is not a positive. In games though, he makes interceptions, is quick into the tackle from the back of a recieving player, has a strong competitive edge and drive, and in possession he is neat, clever and accurate. On the down side he struggles to dominate in the air, and is a liability once he is turned. Most of his game though suits what we want our style to be as I see it. He's always behind the play, giving options for forwards under pressure, and efficiently moving the ball on from a defensive area. Not many players around can add to Arteta's physical faults without taking away from his technical skills. I think in the end there just wasn't a good buy on the market.
Looking back on our frailties in our big losses last summer, the one thing I don't see mentioned enough is how awful our passing was. Possession conceded cheaply in really dangerous positions, which was punished clinically on the most part. Its accepted that Mertesacker and Arteta in particular are strongest when facing the play, and in these games reckless team play cost them position which exposed them. These are not bad players, but our team didn't play enough to its own strengths, and faultered too much on its weaknesses. We weren't good in these games, but we weren't helped by problems with injury and form higher up the pitch for sure. We've got the potential to become the best passing team in the country again this season, and if we can our worries about the size and shape of certain players will disappear I expect. We'll know a bit more after the game tomorrow, but even so I'm excited about our potential to improve all the way through till winter with this team. We've got a happy squad by all the evidence, and an ethos that shows faith in the players we've got, and those rising through the ranks. that's a delicate thing, and one we'd all miss immediately if it was eroded.
Finally, as its hard not to get involved; even if Wilshire doesn't become our best midfielder, he'd still be a superior squad player to what most teams could put out, and he's Arsenal through and through. How can it be bad?
Well said :)
Could have got your point across with 1 paragraph,
It took a you too long mate lol
13 Sep 2014 08:44:49
I agree - we need crisper passing and movement to create options plus attack with a little more venom
Arteta is great and I just want a CDM like him but younger and slightly more physical plus want him now to get bedded in for hen Arteta retires by rotating or partnering with Arteta this season
You make a valid point GN. A DM has two key roles in a team. Firstly the tackling and defensive cover, but perhaps just as key is distribution, as the DM is the player with the responsibility of bringing the ball forward from the CD and starting each move. If the DM was a defensive Titan but who couldn't pass they would very quickly get exposed in the premiership and would start giving the ball away in some very dangerous areas. Looking at how Liverpool are using Gerrard it seems as perhaps managers want passing ability to be the main priority for their DM or base midfielder rather than tackling? Wenger perhaps also sees it this way which is why he is sticking with Arteta in this role?
13 Sep 2014 00:05:01
Very quite on here tonight especially on the eve of a big game.
Seems the hostilities of the last two days may have taken there toll on here,, what a shame
13 Sep 2014 01:56:31
Long hours at work, leaves me little time to do anything, a lot of posters only come on here to moan (spurs fans I think).
But I'll get home at 8, and drag myself out of bed for kick off.