Arsenal Banter Archive December 14 2013

14 Dec 2013 22:54:12
Wenger summed it up perfectly on MOTD saying we fell apart in the last 20 mins when Flamini came off. We were well in the game until then!

Next 3 games are must win now imo!

14 Dec 2013 21:04:57
Ozil needs to start dominating big games, City are strong but we were well beaten.

When will people start questioning wilshere? he hasn't stepped up at all this year and has been let off the hook too many times I understand that he is loves the club but that doesn't make him immune to criticism, it is hard to criticize giroud but he doesn't perform away from home which we need if we are to win the league, and stop blaming ozil he had a decent game he made key passes that lead to the goals we scored which is what he is best at and he dominating the game won't stop us from conceding that is the defenders job.

14 Dec 2013 20:25:50
Get that match out of your system

Still first place

Hope Kos is back for Chelsea

Very true USG

14 Dec 2013 19:07:56
Wilshire got himself banned good! Hope its till January and we get better and better in his absence as it might make him grow up a bit.
He makes more headlines for smoking views on English eligibility and now making guestures than his football.
I know the Jack is every thing brigade will be outraged by this post and say about his injury or He's just frustrated, he's frustrated? Tell me about it, he's in danger of becoming a nearly MAN, well when he grows up he will be.

He is starting to really piss me off. Acting like a ten year old child showing middle finger. Really!? In the last two three games he has been horrible. He better puts some shift, before the goons turn on him.

Totally agree mate

Think you are being a bit harsh mate. Yes he's out of form, but you got to take into account that he's playing out of position.
Are you forgetting Ramsey already?
Be patient, he'll be back.
I think ozil needs to be dropped for a couple of games, aswell as wilshere. For the next few games the team should be:
Schezny
Sagna. Mert. Verm/Kosc(if not injured). Gibbs
Flamini
Ramsey. Cazorla
Walcott giroud rosicky

Giving cazorla a few games in the centre will bring him back to his best.
Walcott as proven today is always a threat and a good finisher.
Rosicky provides a spark, energy and pace to our game.
This will make wilshere and rosicky realise they can't walk back into the team.

Jacks a young man, just had kids at a very young age, has a lot of expectation thrust upon him from the media. It's tough for him, but every top English player touted as the next big thing has gone through a rough patch. Rooney, Joe Cole to name 2 of the most recent.

He's got good players around him. He could do with a more peripheral role within the team maybe, sitting out the big games like yesterday's but he will come good.

People wrote off Ramsey, don't write off Jack

Just thought i'd remind you guys that jack saved a point for us at west brom and effectively put us in the last 16 of the UCL by single handedly taking the points against marseille. Every player can't have a blinder in every game, last night the problem wasnt that wilshere went missing, it was the the whole team went missing, just like we did against United and Napoli, need to get that winning mentality. And break the bank for yaya toure in january, that guy is unstoppable.

Apart from being injury prone and being given more lives than a cat. Jack once again mugs himself off.
When are people going to stop saying he is a young man etc. etc. let me put things into perspective here. He is a MAN! with a family and responsibilities on top if that he is in the public eye and!. gets paid a kings ransom every week. Every time he puts on an Arsenal shirt he represents the club, the fans, and himself. He needs to get his act together. I'm not impressed by him lately on or off the pitch.

Ramsey took a lot of stick but kept his head down put in shifts now reaps the rewards.
Merts the same
Giroud he may not always get it right but effort is unquestionably.
I am all for supporting some one who gives 100% but is struggling, you can't always be great but you can always give your all.
Wilshere has for some reason joined the Betner and frimpong club in order to make headlines, pathetic for some one with that much talent. His choice not mine

I don't get it. Wilshere always puts a effort in, he's just going through the phase where nothing much is happening for him.
Why is Wilsheres personal life so important for fans, fair enough there are certain things which would be unacceptable but he has done nothing serious at all.
People complain about his press conferences. But he's asked those questions and has to give an answer.
Then there's the little gesture from yesterday, was it really as bad as people make it seem? Yes it was inappropriate but there's been much worse incidents.
Everyone keeps saying we know he's got quality etc then why not wait till he gets back into form then?
You said Ramsey was different because he worked hard, but that didn't stop him from getting stick and like I said before wilshere does try. Just be patient

Well said GUNNER62. Exactly right mate.

I have all the patients in the world for Jenks he doesn't always have a great game and occasionally looks out of his depth but gives 100% and does nothing to let the club down.
Pre this season I felt the same way about Jack but his antics are out shining his ability these days and he needs to change that and Quick

14 Dec 2013 18:56:24
Disappointed but trying to remain upbeat.
We knew this was going to be a toughie after a hard Euro game against Napoli and unlike Man City, were unable to rest too many players and we did not have an extra day to prepare for today.
That said, Man City were absolutely brilliant today and they over-run us in midfield. Ya Ya is absolutely phenomenal, IMO the best midfielder in the world. He breaks up play, joins in their attacks, scores goals and has an engine that would put a Rolls Royce to shame.
Up front they have the best partnership in the Prem, Aguero and Negrado, amazing. Their off the ball movement is exceptional and Nasri was a constant threat.
Whilst i'm still on a downer, I have to say i'm beginning to lose patience with Olly Giroud. I love the guy to bits but if you have pretences of winning the Prem League than you have to have a lethal striker who scores more than he misses, and Olly doesn't fit the bill i'm afraid, but other than that he's brilliant, but goal-scorers are suppose to score goals, the clue is in the title.
I thought Ozil and Wilshere were awful today and offered as much going forward as in defence, absolutely nothing.

On the plus side, we don't have to go to the Etihad again, Man City are lethal at home and I can see them winning all 19 home games in the Prem.

We have a 9 day rest, much needed IMO, before we play Chelsea, they don't scare me too much and we have to beat them than hopefully we can get back to winning ways away to West Ham, away to Newcastle and than at home to Cardiff.

R A and T O V E R

Ooppss don't know what happened but the above post was from me

{Ed003's Note - you forgot to login dg}

Thanks Ed003, Question for you mate, I think I did log in but halfway through typing post I went downstairs for about 15 mins to have my dindins lol, than I finished off the post, does it log you out if you are "not active" (eg, not typing) for a period of time?

14 Dec 2013 16:31:50
If today was a test then we failed miserably. However the bigger test is to keep it together after this and to bounce back with gusto."My head is bloody, but unbowed." COYG .

14 Dec 2013 17:27:36
Any else see Ozil leave the pitch early and applaud the away fans? Mertesacker gave him a piece of his mind, rightfully so

*not applaud

Yeah I saw that, let's just put it down to disappointment, but fair play to Per

14 Dec 2013 15:45:48
Yeah it's sour grapes, but I made this up to feel better

It's not that I hate City because they won today (although I do)

It's not that I hate City for spending more than £1B on players from national oil income by a family-owned country (although I do)

It's not that I hate City's strategy predicated on buying players simply to deny them being able to play for someone else and then leaving them on the bench or not even in the squad (although I do)

It's just that they are a bunch of unlovable tw*ts.

But I can still smile, because however much money they spend or how much they win, in the end they are still stuck in Manchester, gateway to Bolton.

14 Dec 2013 14:57:03
Hi guys, i'm a little disappointed with the way we played especially in midfield but also feel if we would have had the pen and a couple of the offsides hadn't been given wrong we would have almost been on terms. don't worry I don't have blinkers on we were bad with our passing and city were brilliant but if we cut out the errors and play upfront like today against chelsea we should be ok. Eds / any other posters what do you think?

14 Dec 2013 14:51:28
Chin up lads, on another day we could of come away with something.
Not happy on the switching off at set pieces and unforced errors can't do that against teams as good as city ir you will be punshed
I throught we pkayed well could cleary see we run iut of energy after there fouth goal
What about the linesman today absolutely shocking espically that one with wallcott when he was right next to the lino who gave him off its hard enough as it is at city you don't lino who can't do there job properly honestly seen better linos at sunday lge games

Anyway hope we don't start all coming on here with negative comments
We are still top lads a few addition s in janurary and we still can win this title
If your watching match of the day I would make a cup of tea after the arsenal game rather listen to the muppets on there

Well said Spanner. Very bitter result, poor play by us gave them the game, I didn't feel they dominated as much as it was we lost - and poor officiating. We know we can play better than that box to box, but can they? And plenty of big home matches to come back half of the season to equal this out.

We need a slightly bigger squad, but I'd hate to see everything go back to the old negativity when there's so much to be positive about.

Wilshere was appalling towards the end of the game. He and Ramsey were completely overrun, and Wilshere just looked as though he didn't care whenever he lost the ball.

14 Dec 2013 14:56:00
One of the hardest games to watch. We lost the ball too easily. We lost every 50/50 ball. No one challenging for the second balls. Our midfield was inexistent. We allowed them score after we scored. This happened multiple times!

Words can't fully describe my devastation. I'm sure every Arsenal fan feels the same way.

What I've learned today:
- Man City fans aren't persons! They're the best fans in the world, a very respectful bunch of loyal fans

- We certainly need another striker in January. Giroud wasn't on his game today and can't carry us all the way through the season. He needs to work on his finishing, too.
- Walcott has a good touch and can finish well. I wish he can show this in every game he plays.
- We need to be better at stopping the counterattack, which means pressure faster and not commit both center defensive mids forward. This occurs various times when Wilshere and Ramsey played side by side.

14 Dec 2013 14:54:24
City are very strong at home. 6 - 3, is a bad result for us but City had lots of other chances. but Giroud had a very close off side goal ruled out and Bentner also had the same.

City just kept on going and there were times that we couldn't get the ball out of our own half.

We need to learn from this game and take the positives into the Chelsea game. which we must get 3 points from.

Disappointed, but we will be back

14 Dec 2013 13:46:59
I hope this turns out to be a premature surrender but I think I have been a bit carried away with our start to the season oooops

Its only half time but we are looking like we've hit the wall in our season, two weeks ago I would have expected us to run through it but now? Not so sure.
The tittle as always is decided by games against those outside the top 7 more than the head to heads but our character is getting tested and its beginning to look a bit weak.

But no matter what happens today we are on the way back, just maybe not as fast as I have lead myself to believe.

Come on lads one big push

Well said

This game is dedicated to all the Arteta naysayers out there. Did you see all the space in the center of the pitch?

He is what makes Arsenal look like a Champions League team, whenever we play the tough teams we are a joke without him.

Peace

G62, no need to apologise mate. I think we have all been carried away by the tide of hope that has engulfed the Emirates this season, but hopefully come the end of the season, we will be the first club to reach the shoreline mate.

14 Dec 2013 09:11:08
I would be lying if I said I wasn't apprehensive about our game today . Against Man-u, I felt we were hesitant at times in the first half and didn't really relax and play our usual flowing game until the second half . Yes, I know city are a dangerous team, but I feel we should focus on playing to our strengths and give them something to worry about as when we are in full flow with our passing and movement we are quite impressive . This is a game Ozil should relish, as I think there will be space for him to use his passing vision . All in all I think a point will be considered a good result, but if we get a win I will be ecstatic . COYG!

14 Dec 2013 07:33:17
PREDICTION TIME . 1-1 or a surprise 3-1 win to Arsenal.
Please!

Well you got the 3 bit right

14 Dec 2013 00:46:59
How can I watch the game on my iPad tomorrow?

Big big test especially after a big week

Perhaps the rotation will help - Rosicky, Flamini and Rambo need to start. Not Arteta and Flamini

14 Dec 2013 07:50:05
Hi,

I don't think you can, I've tried but they don't have the flash player.

You can obviously on a laptop through the various streams like wiziwig, Ronaldo7 etc.

Get NBC sports live app. I'm pretty sure it's called something like that.