Arsenal Banter Archive July 14 2013

 

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14 Jul 2013 22:26:39
Good show by youngsters, well impressed by eisfeld always looks composed, zelelam and Olson need time to progress and need to beef up, gnabry and akpom looked quality and aneke looked a powerhouse would be a good understudy to an experienced defensive mid, the ox looked good in the middle and his burst of pace was frightening for a well taken goal by theo. podolski rosicky and giroud and kosci all looked the biz, but a bit worried by the right backs, if Sagna goes then jenkinson isn't the finished article yet, looks hurried in his play. Left backs Gibbs and Miguel looked solid. Could have been double figures if jack got in the act, but nevertheless a wins a win.
Wenger will definitely need to buy a quick powerful defensive mid for stronger opposition a forward to support giroud and a right back if Sagna goes. I would personally buy richards capoue and higuain, the first two can cover centre half.
Apart from that we have depth with quality youngsters coming through.

Hulk Hogunner

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Well said mate. Also Indonesia looked rubbish too. You forgot that bit!

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I hope Wenger does not use these matches against menial opposition to assess his squad. Man U might have lost 1- 0 and Man city 2-0 but if it was Arsenal vs Man U or Arsenal vs city, it would have been a different proposition.

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14 Jul 2013 21:32:53
Hi Eds any info on Bernard, do u think our interest is real? He looks a great player would love him at arsenal especially if we can't get grenier any more, cheers {Ed027's Note - we certainly have an interest in the player, but I don't think we will spend 20m+ on him

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14 Jul 2013 21:22:17
you know what's awesome and crap at the same time.

how good the ox is in the CAM role.
he's good enough to start for us imho, only problem being santi is most effective there, so ox will probably get pushed to the LW.

watching him in the indonesia match he seemed THE most up for it closely followed by jenks and then rambo.

our 'british core' has so much drive and enthusiasm its daunting to think how good england will be in qatar!

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14 Jul 2013 21:04:56
I have a funny feeling we might see Fabregas on loan. It's a WC year and he'd want the best chance possible for himself to break into the Spain team.

Not only that, but I think Xavi will retire after the WC next summer, and Cesc will finally take over his place in the Barca team.

The best part for us, is that a loan means we get a top drawer player without the £25m fee, meaning we could get him AND Fellaini. Talk we were considering loaning Ramsey to Everton so that would free up squad space.

Something to ponder maybe?

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Not going to happen, if cesc is taking over next season theyd want him with xavi for his final season just to help him take over the reigns, also its lovely to think cesc and fellaini, but then we'd have:

Cesc
Fellaini
Arteta
Ramsey (loaned to everton possibly. )
Wilshere
Diaby
Eisfeld


i know you need to rotate but I don't see any of the other players leaving to make room. with the exception of diaby possibly.

1 Midfield signing I think, and that of a quality CDM or Ball-winning CM.

Arteta - quality old passer
Ramsey - Box to Box engine
Wilshere - Play maker
Diaby - Ball winner
Eisfeld - quality young passer

so I think we have plenty of options, but diaby needs replacing and being an option (if fit) rather than a staple of our teamsheet,

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"Something to ponder maybe?"

No, absolutely not. Why should we give Fabregas gametime after he left as he did?
Either he comes back on a five year deal or he can say at Barca licking Xavis arse.

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As much as I loved Fab4 and I do really mean loved (in a non homo erotic way) I would not like to see him back at the club after he sulked and dragged his heels like a child during his last season with us.

He was a great player for us but there are plenty more players out there to look at.

Would like to hear opinions on Fab4 on being reminded how he left?

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NI gooner all I can say is "to be or not to be" you know what I mean

dave

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We are not in a position to have too much pride. I would take Fabregas over any of the above listed any day of the week. He is a class act. Every player sulks when his coach won't allow him to leave. I am sure u all sulked when youd dad said you couldn't go to a certain party

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Yes Rue1025 but my dad wasn't paying me 80,000 a week to go to school at the time, Touche ;)

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14 Jul 2013 19:38:34
Earlier I made a post about Suarez and the slim/non-existent chances of him coming to Arsenal and it got quite a bit of feedback.

Firstly I'd just like to clarify something. A few of the replies said that I was obviously a Liverpool fan and made it out as though I was a Liverpool fan.
I am a massive Arsenal fan and have been posting on this site for a long time now. Just want to clear that up.

Anyway, another thing I'd like to clear up. When people are providing reasons on why he would go to Arsenal, people are saying that he would come for the CL football and that alone would be enough to bring him to Arsenal.
If that was the case then why doesn't he go to Olympiakos or Basel? Obviously that's not a serious suggestion but he can get champions league football at many other clubs, bigger, richer clubs.

There are so many reasons why we won't get Suarez. We can't afford him (the valuation Liverpool have set), we aren't willing to pay that much for one player, the baggage he will come with, the list goes on.

As I've said, I would be stoked if Suarez came to Arsenal and I hate to be the negative one. But people are actually believing this and at some point this unfortunately has to stop, unless the person enjoys disappointment.

Luis Suarez will not be joining Arsenal.

Nick.

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14 Jul 2013 21:13:21
Nick,

Personally wouldn't question that you're a true gunner, the thing with Suarez is we require players of his calibre to get back on any kind of level playing field with the rest.

His baggage is without doubt undesirable but his quality is not, that is what we're all crying out for, the true quality and most are at a point that if he'd stabbed Ivanovic they'd still want him.

I much as I'd love his ability in our team, agree its pretty unlikely.

Metal again is truly on the money saying how many of these quality players we need. I'm just being patient, ( it's hard ) and believing that Arsene despite all the doubts will pull something out of the bag. I will be truly gobsmacked if he doesn't.

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Luis Suarez any day of the week thank you very much. He is a nutter, but some of the best players I have watched have been nutters e. g. Maradona, Cantona, Chilavert (spelling)

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14 Jul 2013 19:16:45
I was wondering where do u think our current squad will finish next year as it may be what we start with, just bored today and doesn't seem to be much happening on the transfer front but some of last years reserves seem to offer an improvement looking at the performance in Jakarta.


ty. 1 {Ed027's Note - this squad, 4th, even though Spurs are probably stronger at this time, we just have that psychological edge!

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Honestly Ed, I think if we fail to strengthen then spurs would gain a psychological edge knowing how gutted the arsenal fans would be. I think this would change things!

My honest feeling is if we don't strengthen the first XI nor the squad, we'll finish 5th. If we just buy a ST like Higuain I think we'll finish 4th. If we buy Higuain and Fellaini I think we'll finish 4th too. If we buy Higuain, a true DM, a new CB, another if Verm leaves, a Gerv replacement and a GK we'll challenge for the title.

So what I'm saying is unless we drastically improve the squad, we'll still finish 4th despite strengthening as everyone else will too. If we don't, bye bye top 4. {Ed027's Note - They should of had the edge in the past two years, but they still bottled it!

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14 Jul 2013 21:03:09
i think this seasons academy graduates have already strengthened us. I hope wenger doesn't see this post!

but yeah 3 or 4 experianced signings and I think with the other turmoil in the league we can possibly finish 2nd.

thats with a spurs 3rd finish and either utd chelski or city coming 1st 4th and 5th. depends on signings so can't really speculate until 1st of sep

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Metal the spurs have no bottle and will always play 3rd fiddle in london.

love the song, "you won the league in black and white"

malaga gooner

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And if we get Suarez, Fellaini & a good keeper?

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15 Jul 2013 00:36:42
third time lucky for spurs Ed0027. and our luck won't last forever. we've had a lot of it in the last 3-4 years. that won't last.
spurs are a better team now than last year and they will keep spending and what do we do? wenger squabbles over a few pennies for the talent that is needed. he won't change and neither will the club as long as he is with us. for the arsenal I hope he quits as soon as possible.

jimmy {Ed027's Note - but we always pull it off, remember the chances of one the top 3 flopping is very high now that they all have new manager

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As it stands I think it will be very close between Chelsea, Utd and City and we'd be fighting spurs for 4th. If we sign Higuain and a good CDM then we'd be fighting at the top, but Chelsea in particular are going to strengthen so we probably need even more.

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14 Jul 2013 18:27:29
Liverpool will always be an English powerhouse, whether we are in the champions league or not. You can deny it all you want, its a fact. I would never have thought the gunners could be this arrogant.

We know we have a huge fight on our hands to get back to top 4, but as least we aren't as deluded to think we'll win the league.

Slade

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What is this post even about? Telling the truth mate I feel more threatened by Everton and spurs than the Pool

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Okay, you guys have made your slightly biased point, now please all leave in an orderly line.

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Cringe!

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That's what Blackburn fans were saying 3-4 years ago.

Bournemouth Gooner

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What's going on here? I despise sweeping generalizations. A select few comment about Liverpool in a negative light and that means all Arsenal fans think the same. Grow up.
Flybo

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It's unlike Liverpool fans to be so paranoid. oh, wait a minute.

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Go back to your site please you say arsenal fans are arrogant please just go so we can carry on our constructive football talk many thanks

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No Liverpool aren't an English powerhouse anymore. WHEN you lose Suarez, hopefully to us. You will drop down below teams like Swansea.

Teams like United, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, spurs, Everton and Swansea will all be better than you. So please go and fill some other fans heads up with your delusional rubbish.

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Yawn!

malaga gooner

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Wow! no one has said we will win the league!

Now we have turned a corner financially, we hope we will be able to be challenging for the league in a few seasons time- I think we're pretty realistic on the whole.

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14 Jul 2013 21:51:54
Liverpool fans are on sky page 459 every pre season saying they will win the prem, arsenal have won it Liverpool aint

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Just like every year I hear arsenal saying their in the champs league which Liverpool have won and arsenal still ain't

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14 Jul 2013 18:22:34
Is Aneke a valid choice at centre half? Only seen him at Crew where I thought he was more of a Pogba type of midfielder.
Could he and Miquel rotate as the 4th cb?

I would also like to add that Eisfeldt looks a very tidy player, a young Rosicky almost, direct and loads of energy
I thought Zalalem and Ollson looked impressive in the middle of the park.
Infact Zalalem is my player of the future among this current crop. I tip this kid to outdo the likes of Gnabry and Apkom.

Lwi

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No he's an attacking midfielder.

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I thought Miquel looked kind of poor, I know it was just a friendly but he kept letting the ball bounce in dangerous areas instead of attacking it and looked nervy, don't think he's cut out for 4th choice yet.

Zelalem on the other hand looked assured beyond his years, quality player.

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Miquel always let's the ball bounce, I hate it. Keown would be going crazy if he knew. This guy was supposed to be the next big thing when it comes to CBs but look at the likes of Zouma and Varane and you see that for age 20, Miquel has a mountain to climb before he makes it. I wouldn't expect him to become a valid 3rd choice at any top 10 club for another 3 years, they guy is a streak. I have never felt comfortable with him in defence, I would genuinely prefer Squillaci. Please don't think I hate him or anything, I don't, I just don't see the hype and I've watched him play so many times, nothing's changed that opinion.

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Yes, but he was playing alongside Koscielny in defence in the second half and he looked a solid 6"2 ball playing centre half.

Lwi

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Heard a lot about zelalem and from all the responses about him on this post I'm very happy he's a gooner!

Hopeful for this kid

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14 Jul 2013 18:07:09
Hello to all arsenal fans!

Am new on this site and the rumour that I want to bring and heard and french TV is that apparently ibrahimovic has asked to leave PSG and only mancity and real madrid are interested in him! if ibrahimovic leave I guess he'll choose madrid over mancity and if he goes there for sure higuain will leave which should give us a good chance having him!

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Hope your right mate! And welcome
:)

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14 Jul 2013 17:05:07
7-0 to the arsenal today. some of the kids look good.

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Looking good against some part timers does not necessarily translate into being up to playing in the league

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Really! Look they beat who they had to beat and looked pretty good doing it the original poster was only stating that fact he never said the young players would rip up the league or anything.

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14 Jul 2013 16:51:11
7-0 to the gunners great first run out for the boys, let's hope Giroud Keeps on scoring!!

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14 Jul 2013 15:36:55
Doesn't even matter about the result now, because Ramsey just destroyed a defender. Not a very good defender, but my God that was sexy!

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Yeah I saw that silky

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14 Jul 2013 15:14:31
Eds, any chance if an Arsenal move for Rodwell? Can imagine a midfield three of Wishere, Ramsey & Rodwell for the future. {Ed027's Note - no I doubt it mate, don't need another injury prone player

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14 Jul 2013 15:14:08
I think all the rumours regarding, hig, cesc, fellaini, rooney and suarez mite be true I mean they all have the same thing in common, they are unsettled at their club. And knowing AW (not personnally) but historically, he's always out to get a dirt cheap bargain and thinks using the clubs new found strength will allow him to attract great talent that he can get at Sale prices. U tell me one player AW has seen playing in another shirt that he's known would fit in perfectly and really gone after him? I mean even Newcastle marked shearer and finally got their man, Cashley with chelsea, Man City with Nasri, united with Van Persie Barca with Cesc. Oh wait, we only buy bargains regardless of quality and we are the club that make other teams supporters dreams come true but never our own!. How a Terribly run football club is a fantastically run business at the same time!

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14 Jul 2013 15:01:29
Hey eds, just a bit of feedback :) I like the idea of the video up top but personally I think the auto play is a bit frustrating. Great site as always though lads

Sheeny {Ed027's Note - ok mate, I've passed it on

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100% agree, it's so annoying and puts a negative on what is such a good site

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Turn the volume off- simple.

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Agreed

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It's a minor irritation when using a computer which I am, not sure about mobile though. I'd still prefer a longer banter page than worry about the video or ads at the top though tbh.

Thanks all the same Eds, love the page. {Ed027's Note - there is a volume button, i think if you mute the volume, it may remember the mute setting

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14 Jul 2013 14:03:44
Higuain/Suarez (there could be a compromise on his fee) /Benteke

Fellaini deal will only be done once a striker is sorted as we have focused all our attentions on a striker as we know Fellaini's personal terms and his fee is non negotiable.

Our last signing will be a GK

There is talk of a young promising signing which would most likely be a CB.

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14 Jul 2013 13:57:16
A very well connected friend of mine ( media ) has mentioned to me that he has heard that we are working on a deal for Keisuke Honda. I don't know if this is true or not?. just passing on the information.

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Hasn't he agreed to go to AC Milan?

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Very close to the end of his contract and wenger did praise him a few seasons back. Wouldn't mind him, but I think he's going to Milan

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14 Jul 2013 12:55:08
So Madrid spend 30m on Isco, 34m on Illaramendi, mess us about something chronic over Higuain who was said to be very happy with the terms we set out, and ready to leave - and then they're apparently going to offer £25m for Suarez?

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14 Jul 2013 12:19:18
Just a thought more than anything, talk of the £70 million transfer kitty, could this be a ploy to detract bidders from the Arsenal squad and protect potential departures? it doesn't make any sense to say we could bid £20/£30 million for a player and pay £200,000 a week in terms of incoming players, but outgoing it does say "you are going to have to bid ALOT" to get an Arsenal player. Wenger has implied the need for secrets, maybe this is it

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14 Jul 2013 13:46:07
Completely seperate, but would I be the only one who would feel slightly betrayed and p*ssed off if the fans in Asia got our new signings announced to them first?

Like say that at sometime this week Higuain was announced on the tour it'd all seem like a bit off a publicity stunt to me.

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Don't care where their announced. Just as long as their announced.
Flybo

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A signing announced, by its nature, is about publicity. doesn't really matter when where or how so long as our team is improved by start of season

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I wouldn't care if they unveiled them on the moon - just want to see them in anArsenal shirt and know they'll be there for our first game against Villa.

I remember our first competitive match at the Emirates - Villa - we were lucky to get a draw and bit was that a sign of things to come.

Looking to absolutely DESTROY them this time out and that won't be happening with out some major new players running out there.

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14 Jul 2013 13:23:31
Anyone know how legit these Bernard rumours are? I find it strange we would spend £20m on a young, fairly unproven CAM when we desperatly need a GK, CB, CDM and ST.

Detroit Gooner

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14 Jul 2013 11:48:06
The more I think about how good Petit was as a converted CB into a CDM, the more it makes sense to try TV5 out in that same position.

I think Miquel should make the step up this season, this would give us 4 options in that position including Vermaelen, probably enough for the forthcoming season. TV5 is a good enough ball player to play CDM and would obviously give us more bit in that area than last season. The CDM we appear to be in for are still of the `one of the future` category (Kondogbia being the latest) so does it mean Wenger is happy to stick with the current options in that area?

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There has been a lot of people saying tv5 should be a cdm. But if his form is bad at he moment at centre back, imagine playing him out of position.

Bad idea

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How many times has this been discussed on here?

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14 Jul 2013 11:12:07
I think i'm going to stop building up my hopes, that we are going to sign a top marquee player.
I think the last 8 years have affected our 'Top Club Stats'. let me explain. I think if Man United or Chelski went in for Higuain. the pull of those clubs and their prestiege position would have had him jumping ship already. Rooney would choose Chelski over us.
Not winning anything for 8 years and our wage structure means we have to work much harder at signing any of the top players. this is why I believe these negotiations are taking so long.
I wish I was wrong, but I feel that I am right

A worried Highbury Old Timer

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I think you're spot on mate. I think the top players need convincing that arsenal mean business.

Even with a stronger financial position, its going to take time to rebuild a winning team, because, as you suggest, down to the last 8 years.

But I think once we can get one, another will follow, etc.

And providing we have a competitive season and players can see progress, next summer should make it easier to attract the top players.

I am afraid that we fans still need to be patient.

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The only way around this. is like what Man City done, pay over the odds and pay high wage

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14 Jul 2013 10:31:16
Are people seriously believing this Suarez rumour?

If he went to Arsenal, it would only be a small step up from where he is at the moment.

He could play for any team in the world, so let's be honest, why would he pick arsenal when clubs like Real Madrid are after him?

I mean, even now he is the main man at an English powerhouse like Liverpool. Obviously they aren't what they used to be but they are still a big name club with a rich history in England.

Liverpool aren't even willing to sell, and if they do sell, it will be around the 50 million mark. We can't afford to spend 50 million on one player and even if we could, we wouldn't.

This whole Suarez story is more newspaper rubbish and I'm not surprised by the rumour itself, I'm surprised that people are actually believing it.

Luis Suarez is a ridiculously talented player, no question. But there is absolutely no chance of him coming to Arsenal. By all means, remember this post and call me out if it happens, but il take my chances on that one.

Nick.

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Nick. you're obviously a 'pool fan. I mean. 'English Powerhouse like Liverpool'? Really? They finished 7th and will NOT be playing in Europes top comp AGAIN. 3rd season running?

Arenal ARE sitting at the top table in Europe, top 4 finish AGAIN and are looking to challenge for the League.

Wenger has shown Suarez huge respect which will mean a lot to Suarez.

Whatever I think of Suarez there's no doubting his talent. Its just the baggage that comes with him.

He will score hatfuls of goals at Arsenal if he comes.

Cammy out!

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Except for the odd blip, Liverpool have not been big for 23 years. They are not considered a threat by any of the European clubs. That was a statment made by a German correspondant several weeks ago on Talk Sport.

History is what is made yesterday, today and tomorrow and not 23 years ago

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Im a liverpool fan and that's the most sence I've heard spoke on here about Suarez, As you said why would he leave Liverpool to come to the gunners? he's not really going to better him self in the long run, and he defo won't win much moving to AFC. Its Real or nothing for him and for us, we can't be making or rivals for the fourth spot stronger and us weaker, its only yous that do that. YNWA

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Whilst I agree with you on the whole, I think there is a small chance Suarez could join AFC, albeit only about a 10% chance. The whole saga has a lot of points, briefly.

We offer regular/gauranteed Champions League football, he has come out and said (or intimated) that that is a huge factor in his next move.

The fee would be more like £40M if Liverpool were to sell, that's generally agreed by the press from what i`ve heard. AFC could afford that but the point is, is Suarez worth it and therefore does it make sense paying it. Wenger seems to have an idea of a players worth/value and simply will NOT budge on that point. In this case, I wouldn't be suprised if he felt the valuation was correct and pay the cash.

My first thoughts when the apparent bid went in was us simply saying to RM, 'we have the cash, we have other targets but we don't think Higuain is worth spending more, take it or leave it'. This is still a very credible theory imo.

Suarez wants RM but do they want him. A new manager in there, just spent £70M or whatever on 2 players, does Ancelotti really want another striker and can teh club afford to buy him? a lot depends on Higuain I guess. but Suarez may now be outpricing himself and AFC may a be one of his very few options.

At the end of last season Suarez said he hated the way he was being treated in England by the press and wanted out, doesn't make sense that he`d now join another English team.

All in all, its very doubtful he'd join AFC but anything can happen, and once if it drags on and get nearer the end of the window, Liverpool and Suarez may have to take whatevers on teh table.

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Unfortunately you aren't just buying a great player, you gat a total person who at any time could disgrace your club at any point, personally don't want him in our league let alone at our club.

The guy is an utter arse cart, come on Madrid do the decent thing.

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Yes nick you said it you have history but you are no longer considered a powerhouse as you put it. if the money is right he will sign simple as you are forgetting we are in the champions league which is what he wants don't run away with your self mate we are moving forwards now with the debt cleared watch in the next few weeks what happens at arsenal you will see why we are interesting big players now Devon gunner

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English powerhouse

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Scotty baby boy if your not worried and so sure Suarez will not come to arsenal why do you jump on our site shouting the odds go back to yours or has it got really boring

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You know Scotty, you shouldn't come onto this page and insult Arsenal. After all, a Liverpool fan is in no position to do that.

You say that Suarez wouldn't further himself at Arsenal, but you seem to have forgotten that we play Champions League football, and surely he would further himself by playing in perhaps the greatest stage in football. Or is that not important despite being the reason he is leaving?

You also mentioned how he wouldn't win much with us, which is perhaps true, but to be fair the only thing you have won with him is the 'Mickey Mouse Cup' (for those that didn't know, that nickname actually originates from Liverpool fans when they tried to belittle Everton's achievements back in the 70's), hardly a bragging right, is it? I'd personally have Champion's League football over the Capital One Cup any day of the week.

In summary, Liverpool aren't the club they used to be, and are certainly not an 'English Powerhouse. '

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Nick
Totally agree. Believe Wenger used this ploy to smoke out Real Madrid into making a bid, thus perhaps speeding up Higuian transfer.
Seems to have backfired as follows:-
a) Madrid consider our bid for Suarez as specious and will only move for Suarez when it suits them.
b) Higuian will only be sold by Madrid as and when they have secured a replacement, be that Suarez or somebody else.
Our only hope for a swift conclusion to Higuian depends on pressure on Madrid from the player himself and if he still harbours hopes of staying and securing an improved contract, that isn't going to happen.

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For a club that doesn't win anything and has a manager who thinks qualifying for the champs league is a trophy you arsenal fans sure are an arrogant bunch

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14 Jul 2013 15:53:29
in reply to ted the only insult was aw putting in a bid of 30 million, he new that would get flung out from liverpool straight away, so why waste our time? and you think just cause you get top 4 makes you's an attractive package for suarez? yes I applaud aw for getting you's in there for the last 14 years on a shoe string budget, but you only make up the numbers and have no chance of winning the thing. last time I checked we won it in 2005, yes I now that is in the past but it happened not to long ago, and we as a club have always had a winning mentality in the champions league, we have got our own trophy to show that. that's right we have won it 5 times and you will not have your first one any time soon. I would go as far to say that liverpool will win it again before you lot manage your first.

i can't believe for the life of me why you's think suarez would come to the gunners? ask your self would you leave liverpool to play for the gunners when you won't out the country cause the media have hounded you at every turn? and can I ask why you's all are wanting to milk suarez now that he's been linked with your club? i'm sure after the evra incident and the biting carry on a lot of you fans were slagging him and saying he's nothing but trouble now you's all think the sun shines out his ass. suarez has brought trouble to our club and dragged our name through the mud, his conversion rate is 12% which is poor for any top striker in world football. yes he's a genius will the ball but being banned for 23 games since he arrived is sentiment to what he's all about.

and on to your last point we got to the fa cup final last year and also won the micky mouse cup. the same cup you's tried so hard to get when up against birmingham with a full team out I may add. if you had won it that day you would have been cheering as if you had scraped top 4 again.

so to summaries it up I won't shed a tear if he goes, and the 50 million we get will do wonders for our team, and this year you all know you will have a fight on your hands for 4 because liverpool and the people are getting stronger.

scottybhoy 1888

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"For a club that doesn't win anything and has a manager who thinks qualifying for the champs league is a trophy you arsenal fans sure are an arrogant bunch. "

If you look at some of the things written, between some of the arrogance (I can't disagree with that) the main point is that arsenal now want and can be (due to our better finances) competitive again.

So the club can start winning again and 4th is no longer seen as a target!

But we have to convince the top players of that now.

Point being arsenal are in a better position to be challenging for the title, even if it takes the next few seasons, in comparison to Liverpool.

That's not a slight on Liverpool or arrogance, its a fact.

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You won't get 50 million for him you people lol and you have never won a premiership title and you never will with br at your helm {Ed052's Note - Mate, being offensive about Liverpool doesn't help. The clubs are very similar, and, if we were to have a slanging match, then with 5 CLs, 18 League titles etc, I think we'd come out on top...}

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Not insulting anybody here, just a short question: since when did "you's" enter the english language? I have literally no clue why the 's' is required, and the apostrophe is another matter entirely. Frankly it seems more effort than it's worth to write it instead of the pleasingly short "you", even if it does mean that your sentences read in a scouse accent.

PWR Gooner
p. s. Liverpool probably should

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ED052 yet liverpool have never won the premier league, couldn't even get into the europa league this season and haven't been in the champions league for atleast 3 years. when was the last time you won the league? over 20 years agoo so in what way are Arsenal and liverpool similar {Ed052's Note - So, look at history my friend. At the minute, your one season ahead of Liverpool, in terms of quality, and financially. We're trying to bridge that gap in one, very good summer. Saying that you've been in the Cl loads means nothing if you never go any further than the quarters etc.}

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Ed52 no one being offensive mate just stating the truth I say again no premiership titles and you will not get 50 million for Suarez if you don't like what us gunner fans have to say go back on your own site {Ed052's Note - when did I say we'd get 50m? And you've won more Prem titles. We've won more of almost everything else. I'm not having a go. I explained that before. But saying your bigger and better is rubbish}

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14 Jul 2013 18:35:50
@ nick and scottybhoy I can see what you're saying, but we are at least further down the line than you are.

arsenal are in much better position financially now and in fact it will keep improving.

so we are hoping (if the club pulls its finger out), that we can sign top players and build a competitive/challenging team again.

so its down to the likes of wenger to convince players like suarez that it means business.

but I have to agree, its a long shot for arsenal to sign suarez.

see what happens.

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14 Jul 2013 18:47:21
@ed52, we know of liverpool's great footballing history, there's no doubting that and no one is disrespecting that here (arsenal are 3rd btw, behind you and utd! ok, some way back, but we haven't done badly!)

but how did you get the "one season ahead of liverpool, in terms of quality and financially" from?

you have spent more in the transfer market than us in the last 5 years alone, yet we have finished in a higher league position consistently.

we are in a great position and literally in the next few seasons we will be on a level playing field financially with bayern and barca.

i honestly don't know liverpool's financial situation, but are you saying liverpool are going to be in the same/similar position- in a few seasons? specifically we're talking about having a transfer kitty of 70/80mil virtually every season= without cumulating debt. is that something liverpool will be able to do, soon? I am interested to know how. cheers. {Ed052's Note - that's what Liverpool area looking to do , and unde the new owners it'll be sooner rather than alter. At the minute, we are losing a lot of money. But it is improving and will continue to do so. We've spent a lot of money in recent years as you say but a lit of that has been wasted. We are one good window from having a similar quality squad from yours. }

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It seems to me, Ed, that this '1 window away' thing would only work if we did not strengthen. Saying that we are 'one good window' away from challenging for the title would make just as much sense.

The only way in my mind that Liverpool can catch up to us is if we have a terrible window and Liverpool have a great window, which is a very optimistic prediction. {Ed052's Note - of course. You are only window from challenge. To catch we need to strengthen better than you}

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Fair enough ed52. It takes time, as we well know! its not easy and with the sugar daddy short-cut clubs, it makes even harder for clubs like ours. But I think we are turning that corner now.

Hopefully, if wenger actually spends some money, we will be push a head and be challenging for the league in a few seasons time.

cheers, best of luck. {Ed052's Note - your the only club run well Liverpool are on the way there. }

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14 Jul 2013 10:31:15
I had a very interesting conversation with a guy at the Emirates on friday. I've been doing some painting work there over the last week, and got chatting to a guy in a suit. Not sure what role he plays, in terms of his position at the club, but seemed very clued up on the ongoing rumours about your targets.

Now, i'm a West Ham fan and regulary read our page, but this is the first time i've come over to the darkside, so to speak! lol

Anyroad, he never gave out any names, but he reckons you guys will have hopefully signed 3 big names by the time the time the transfer window shuts. And one more for the future, so I guess that'll be another kid for the academy.

He kinda got on his high horse about the constant rumours in the papers, about the lack of transfer activity for Arsenal. It was quite funny actually, cause he mentioned about the time it takes to sign a player - talks. more talks. then a cheeky bid if said player is interested. club turns it down. more talks. then an official bid. club accepts. more talks about contract etc. medical. more talks and then hopefully he isn't swayed by interest from other parties. Then said player or his reps etc go on holiday and then its just a waiting game before he actually puts pen to paper!

Fans seem to think that transfers move as quick as they do on the computer games. his words! lol

He said negotiations are ongoing with three players, all foreigners, but no names or position. He doesn't forsee any departures at this stage either, but that isn't to say it won't happen.

Here's hopefully taking 6 points off you guys this season. yeah right!

Good luck guys and fingers crossed you''ll finish above them plonkers from down the road.

Steve WHFC

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Hi steve, great post! thanks for dropping by our HUMBLE, non arrogant page :)
COYG andi:)

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Thanks hammer! Good of you to post.

That does sound plausible. Ofc deals to take time and sometime we forget that. No news, is hopefully good news.

We've become an impatient lot at arsenal, we've been waiting for what seems like a long time for us to turn a corner financially and when Gazidis essentially said we have-

That has only put expectations through the roof!

So seem are even more impatient than usual!

I think we will see some top signings and time will show that.

good luck for next season.

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Was he a bald, shifty looking bloke, going by the name of Ivan?cos he keeps saying stuff like this.

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Steve,
Good post mate. A quick transfer seems to be the exception rather than the rule today. Perhaps if we ordinary fans actually had an idea of how long a successful transfer actually took from initial contact to completed contract, we would be less impatient.

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Hi Steve, cheers for the post! I most surely hope your right, it sound's plausible so let's wait and see.

Josh09

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14 Jul 2013 09:56:22
Arsenal to sign tim krul for 6 million seeing as cesar is being loand to napoli

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A possible signing, but 6mil seems on the low side?

I would've thought Newcastle would want at least 10mil.

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14 Jul 2013 09:48:56
hi eds

do you think there is still a possibility of fellani or have we now lost interest? if so, what are the most likely alternatives as you see it?

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It looks like we`re hanging on aslong as possible for Everton to maybe take a lower fee, the buyout clause lasts until a date in August at which point any bid may take him. Risky buisiness tho, plenty of teams across Europe who wouldn't baulk at a £20M+ fee for a player of his class.

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14 Jul 2013 09:45:33
Casar on way to Napoli on loan. If there was an interest, think he wanted too much money. not disappointed to be honest. It prove the point that Wenger is unpredictable and keeps his cards close to his chest. km

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14 Jul 2013 08:28:16
Frimpong is to be loaned to hull, and Bendtner could be sold to them, but this is the kicker, we've been looking at taking up QPR's loan offer for taarabt and this would be a almost like a swap deal for Miyaichi. My source is a lad whos doing a placement at the daily mail. So who knows how true it is but thought I post it anyway.

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14 Jul 2013 10:53:11
If he's not good enough for QPR he not good enough for us. lazy player with poor attitude Km

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14 Jul 2013 08:04:02
if we're selling Gervinho how about Xherdan Shaqiri as his replacement?

hardly started a game for Bayern lat year and with the signings they've made so far this summer I doubt that's going to change.

he kicked ass for Basle 2-3 seasons ago and tore Manchester United a new one, surely available for the right price?

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I like him as a player, not a bad shout :)

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He is overrated and if we indeed sign a new striker we would have Walcott and Podolski, Chamberlain, Miyachi, Wellington the Silva and possibly Joel Campbell as our wide players plus the option to operate Rosicky, Cazorla from the front 3.

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I wouldn't target him specifically but almost every midfielder at Bayern would be a good signing for us, whether as a starting player or squad player, and we will be foolish not to keep tabs on Pep and what he gets up to.

It was stated 6 months ago or more that we were keen on Gustavo. Bender is expensive, Gonalons wants to stay at Lyon, Wanyama has gone to Saints. We're signing a DM I'm sure of it. So who is left? I imagine Wanyama will play alongside Schneiderlin rather than him being sold, so who else is available?

Gustavo looks to be 2nd/3rd choice depending on the formation, so unless we stick with Ramsey + Arteta or we do a Wenger party trick and get Khedira from Madrid, we don't have too many options left suddenly.

I doubt we'd go for Robben if he were available, and I don't think their strikers are available. Scwein and Martinez are 100% unavailable. So in terms of who Pep would sell, it comes down to maybe 3 players - Shaqiri, Kroos and Gustavo.

Wouldn't be surprised if we left Fellaini to United and signed Gustavo for less - would be happy with that too. He's a true DM the likes of which have been absent for years at AFC and the guy can play. He was outstanding as a DM in the confeds and the technical level of his tackling is actually unbelievable. So for me I am quietly praying Wenger does something there.

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14 Jul 2013 08:03:34
arsenal have told higuain to make a decision on his future after he has verbally agreed a 150,000 pound a week deal and a fee of 23.1 million has been agreed with real.
higuain met with ancelotti and liked the plans he has for real and ancelotti told him that he wants higuain to stay at club but higuain wants regular footy and doesn't know whether ancelotti can offer him that.

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14 Jul 2013 06:56:00
If we sign Suarez, bear with me here, October 6th will be the first game he can play for us. Say we sign him today, and pay him 140k/week which is the rumoured amount Madrid will offer, that's 12 weeks without being able to play him and he will have cost us 1, 680,000 in wages.

If Madrid want him, they will sell Higuain who doesn't want to play for Liverpool so he'll have to go in a separate deal.

It appears we are getting one or the other and there is no rush. It would be nice having our marquee signing there for preseason matches and training though.

Paul

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I am sure any club having to whether his ban will come to an agreement over the wages issue until that point i. e. retainer, he can't expect anything more.

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14 Jul 2013 05:33:33
arsenal have told gonzalo higuain to hurry up and make a decision about joining them. it is about 9/10 chance that hell join to get regular playing time.
other deals who will be completed:
bernard
cesar (now napoli have a new keeper)
suarez
this will take the the total t around £90m depending on how much liverpool want for suarez

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Cesar is close to a loan deal to napoli

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Judging by what's been said on ESPN in the last week and most notably today, Cesar to Napoli is as good as done.

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14 Jul 2013 04:52:23
I believe Arsenal are on ESPN at 14. 45 today playing Indonesia and then on ESPN in the week playing Vietnam this is the friendlies out on their Asia tour.

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14 Jul 2013 04:43:39
{Ed029's Note - You have no idea who the Eds are or what they do for a living.}

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14 Jul 2013 04:35:47
new user, been following here for years though. I have a question that hopefully would be answered. if usmanov were to take arsenal, would we be another sugar daddy club? I for one would hate that and TBH would hate arsenal along with all of the others
thoughts?

fonz

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Yep!
Flybo

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Hard to say. I think if there was a risk of that happening, a takeover simply wouldn't happen.

How do you get a guy who owns the club to agree not to bankroll it? Very hard. He has stated in the past he respects the club's values and wouldn't do that, but would make money available should we want it. But that was from the position of investor not owner, so it's hard to know what he'd do if he did own it.

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14 Jul 2013 03:54:19
Arsenal are set to to swoop for Bernard and are willing to pay up to 18.5million for the young Brazilian.

Higuain is set to snub arsenal and stay at Madrid as rm new boss says he is part of his plans.

Roma have set a bid in for gervinho but wenger wants to get de Rossi so is to think about a exchange.

Wenger is willing to get 2 strikers this window but right now he has set his eye on Luis surarez.

Wenger is In need of a cb and Williams is want wenger wants and is willing to pay 8millionforthe Swansea captain.

Wenger is set to offload sagna to monaco and sign abate for 12million the ac Milan rb wants a new challenge.

Wenger has sent his scouts out to Spain and Germany to find him a great gk so inthe meantime we wait.


Gunners remember we can't sign everyone and don get your hopes high.


The once invincible

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14 Jul 2013 03:53:43
I keep seeing people comparing Gazidis/Law to Dein and saying if the latter was here things would be done differently. I'm wondering if people realise DD is still very much involved in transfer dealings?

This was confirmed by former Palace Chairman Ron Noades when discussing the Zaha situation. The following is a direct quote, from Noades.

“When Steve Parish sold Zaha I was mildly involved in it as I tried to get Arsenal to buy him, but they were not interested.

“I spoke to David Dein as I did not want Zaha to go to Manchester United, I wanted him to stay in London. "

So there you have it, I'm as big a DD fan as the next Gooner RE: Transfers but this goes to show that sometimes even he can't work the magic!

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14 Jul 2013 02:15:34
Hi Eds,

I thought I would ask if there is ANY interest in Nani from Manchester United? He hasn't featured much, may not be in Moye's plans this season and could be on his way out?

I only ask as at times he looks to be a good player and surely after watching Gervinho for a couple of years, it wouldn't hurt!

Wages a stumbling block too?

Norfolk-COYG {Ed027's Note - there has been an interest in the past, but as you say wages will definitely be a block, as well as inconsistency

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On his day he a world beater. Sadly, not many days are his

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14 Jul 2013 00:03:24
I just saw the AW interview and couldn't help but feel sorry for AW because you can see how much the man loves the club and for me and most people out there is 1 of the greatest managers alive.

I also couldn't help to think that the man is just a victim of his own success really, he hyped himself up so much that everyone thought he was the chosen one who would keep Arsenal above all other clubs and keep us challenging at the highest level. When you take time to really listen, thou it's hard and most "fanatics" won't wanna hear this but what he is actually saying is that the board signed off on mediocrity for the bigger picture, it's really a case of a lesser evil here. The club moves on to greater heights, there might be some backlash from fans but they will forget after a couple of trophies, man city and chelsea fans have.

I for 1 do hope he does sign some quality players but I will equally be pleased if he did his regular business and introduced a youngster or two into the team that is the Arsenal ( and Arsene wenger) way. There would be no reason for us to compromise our beliefs now, we don't have to pay an extra quid more than we're supposed to just because we have the money now.

Long post I know but just wanted to get that out there.

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