Arsenal Banter Archive July 14 2014

14 Jul 2014 22:34:05
If you had the choice would you keep the stadium as 'The Emirates' or change name back to Highbury?

In 2006 I'd say I'd have Highbury.

Now we've won our first trophy, a new Wenger era seems to have begun. I'll stick with the emirates, history needs to be made in this stadium. Not taken from the old legendary one.

Great question.

I'm inclined to say highbury was our past and 'The Emirates' is our present.

Maybe to Ashburton Grove, but not to Highbury. There will only ever be one Highbury for Arsenal.

Oooooooh, controversial ( for me at least).

Leaving Highbury was a big thing
For me.
I loved that place, it was like hallowed ground!
I saw my first ever Arsenal game there too.

I don't think any stadium will be highbury, on a sentimental level.
So i'd have to say, no changing it for me dags!

I could and would never want the Emirates to be known or named highbury.
Highbury is a part of the arsenal history books which cannot have a substitute. I as so many fans have so many memories, good and bad but they come from Highbury. No where else.

14 Jul 2014 23:30:00
Neither, moving from highbury was to start a new chapter in our history.

Calling it the Emirates was for financial reasons, so when the sponsorship has run it's course I'd like us to find a name that we'd all be happy with.
Otherwise we could end up changing names every ten years.

{Ed002's Note - I am impressed - a few years ago there would be a lot of bitching about the name. A dynamic of modern football is that there is a need to move on. Long gone are the days of the cloth-capped, hobnailed-booted, chimney sweep making his way, rattle in hand, to cheer on his team at Highbury on a Saturday afternoon. Things are changing and will continue to do so. If you want to don your cloth cap, have a pint of wallop with your chums before going off to the local match, perhaps one of the sides from the suburbs will have survived so you can go and watch them - Spurs or Enfield.}

14 Jul 2014 23:45:55
Very good answers.

I remember when we were building new stadium and there were whispers that it was going to be called 'The Emirates' due to commercial reason's, people (not on here) were saying we have sold our soul to the devil, for a fast buck.

How times have changed, but for me, it was a change that had to be made.

There is only one Highbury and that's the way it should stay in my opinion

15 Jul 2014 00:26:00
Great answer Ed002, totally agree.

15 Jul 2014 01:16:22
The Grove for me too

15 Jul 2014 21:15:57
its not Highbury and should never be known as it

14 Jul 2014 22:29:29
Are we going back to the tried and tested - pace and power sides of the past under AW rather than slow possession which summed up the Cesc arsenal sides of the past?

Bring back the pace and power plus the fear factor in the tunnel. Every team knowing that we will come out the blocks fast and try to kill the game in the first twenty but have too much in the tank for them to stop us.

Add a tall defensive midfielder with a bit of bite and we are there

14 Jul 2014 23:48:48
Totally agree mate.

14 Jul 2014 20:49:04
Khedira - Ramsey
Walcott - Ozil - Sanchez
Giroud

OR

Khedira
Wilshere - Ramsey
Ozil
Walcott - Sanchez

OR

Khedira - Ramsey
Walcott - Ozil - Cazorla
Sanchez

14 Jul 2014 22:17:31
1st one for me.

Giroud is getting better every season, let's stick with him up top.

Khedira Ramsey Sanchez Ozil Walcott and Giroud.

Dags will choose the same but swap Khedira for Schneiderlin and Giroud for Remy!

G62 will choose the same as me as he trusts his doctor!

Agree with Dags

14 Jul 2014 22:54:12
Lol,
You know me well Dr Greeny.

For me, Giroud and Remy would be like Holly Willoughby.

A great pair upfront.

{Ed025's Note - or a right pair of tits?..

15 Jul 2014 00:01:49
C'mon Ed,

That's no way to talk about G62 and Goldboy, lol.

14 Jul 2014 17:43:27
Ed
Any interest from us in William Carvalho?

Khedira would be a good signing but his wages seems to be a problem.

{Ed027's Note - nope, Khedira is the main target it seems

Here is my theory. Sanchez is the only striker we will buy - he will start on the right wing to get him used to the premier, then when theo comes in Oct/ Nov he will start him up front. In the meantime, Giroud will start up front. I'd like some thoughts on this, seems fairly logical to me.

My interest is in Khedira. It's the first time the fake ITK's haven't had to fake it on twitter because the news is overwhelmingly obvious he is on the way. No comments from Madrid, none from Wenger, none from agents, just a lot of links. If he comes, for me, he beats Bender hands down, not necessarily because he's a better DM, but because he can be a DM but also go box to box and link up with Ramsay. He is the missing link. Get him and we genuinely have no one to fear in the top four. We will be looking at Europe surely.

Long been looking at a Gilberto Silva type of player (I loved GS) No one we have is like that at the moment

I like your theory on the strikers - makes a lot of sense.

But would also add that it will be horses for courses, when theo comes back there will be a rotation and Giroud will be a very big part of it. ;-))

Valid theory Baggins.

The fact we have players up front who can rotate and chop and change and switch positions is good.

looking forward to new season already.

14 Jul 2014 18:28:18
What is the delay in announcing the debuchy deal, I thought that was nailed on.

Trying to sign a replacement. Apparently the arrival of a replacement is imminent though - from holland.

Still don't get what the other teams replacement has got to do with offically announcing it.

14 Jul 2014 22:24:07
Because Newcastle won't let us sign Debuchy until they find a replacement first.

They are the selling club so they hold all the aces.

14 Jul 2014 17:00:58
Hi all still buzzing over the sanchez signing hopefully more to follow of his standard with the season just over a month away was wondering if you could sign any 3 players for our team who would it be and why.

My first would be Ibrahimovic getting on abit now but been doing the business at top level most of his carer and feel he is made for the prem would easily score 25-30 goals a season.

Second would be Schweinsteiger one of if not best midfielder in world in my eyes showed that last night he just never stops.

Third don't really have to explain why really we should have brought him home our former captain fabregas.

Not easy to narrow it down to just 3 I know good luck :)

Ajlevan (gooner from jersey)

David Luiz, Tom Cleverly and Bobby Zamora.

Nah, just kidding. Really it's Ashley Cole, Nasri and that Dutch guy.

but really (I mean it this time), it's Reus, Schweinsteiger and probably Lahm.

Sounds like you would like a whole new team ;-)) Why don't we just swap with Real Madrid?

14 Jul 2014 19:48:56
Besides France he's only broke 25 goals in any league once.

He was always overrated

Messi, ronaldo and neymar.

Rodriguez, neymar and gotze actually

14 Jul 2014 20:49:31
*Edit*

Before france he only ever broke the 20 goal barier twice in any league campaign

25 for Inter the year they won the treble
28 for Milan the year he left for France

Barely even came close in any other season in his career!

Also my three :P
Lukaku
Vidal
Neuer

15 Jul 2014 04:55:33
Kompany , Vidal , Reus . Can't believe no one wants a new CB .

14 Jul 2014 15:51:22
Eds do u think we would b interested if Cavani becomes available? Now that rumours are surfacing that he wants to come to th barclays. Thanxxx in advance.

{Ed027's Note - nope

14 Jul 2014 12:45:17
Hi ed, I was wondering. With Sanchez being right footed what's the plan for Walcott? Or where do you expect Sanchez to play? Thank you

{Ed027's Note - think we'll se Sanchez in strike mate

14 Jul 2014 14:47:48
So United sign a kit deal that is worth more than 2.5 times our deal with Puma. Just as well ours is for only 5 years.

We need some real silverware in these next five years to get close to any sort of a deal like that. Here's hoping

COYG

Got to me a little bit when I read that. It's kinda like I thought things were going for us because of the deal. Then we end up in the same position as before; with rival teams having better deals than us.

On top of that, Manchester United have signed a deal with Chevrolet for approx £50m a year shirt sponsorship. We're on £30m for shirt and stadium combined! And only signed the deal recently I think?

I wouldn't worry about it to be honest. Manchester United are a big global brand; it’s going to happen. The thing that makes me smile is how much of this money is going to be creamed off by the Glazers?

14 Jul 2014 17:29:07
I really wouldn't worry about it, they are one of the big four with Madrid, Barca and Bayern who earn a fortune through their own means.

We were able to compete before and will be able to again, Atletico showed that mounds of money isn't everything and we earn way more than they do.

We'll be fine. Honest :-)

14 Jul 2014 18:20:13
I voiced my displeasure with the Emirates deal when it was signed Chimney and didn't get a warm response.

I hope your'e right Jenny but the expenditure in the game is growing exponentially

Today the financial difference might mean the difference between a Champion and contender that same margin of difference in 10 years time could be between that of Champion and mid table side.

Yeah I wouldn't worry too much, they are in debt to the tune of 500mill.

I did think it seemed a bit low when I looked a while back. I didn't bother looking too much in to it though. But now I have, I have to agree with you sheeny. Could be better. Hopefully it's not a long deal. Tbh, I'd prefer to have a high paying shirt sponsor and name the stadium properly. I've never liked sponsored names for stadiums, and I doubt I ever will. Maybe if they offer us £40m a year purely for the naming rights I'll change my mind.

14 Jul 2014 19:55:10
Wrong there again Jensen my old mukka, infact were not prob not much more in debt. than yourselves now. And its certainly manageable. The galzers by luck imo have managed to pull a masterstroke in getting the club, I hate the way it happened but if we have the window were being told to expect knowone will be moaning.

14 Jul 2014 19:57:17
I don't like commercial names either but it's been done and Emirates at least sounds good. Unlike a load of American stadiums but I think for name rights the second time round we should have been pushing for 60/70m a season. United would prob get 120m a season to rename old Trafford

14 Jul 2014 12:33:59
Khedira rumour spreading as quickly as the Man United fall from grace. I really hope it's a done deal as people are saying.

David Luiz as back up CB anyone? :). I couldn't even type that with a straight face lol

14 Jul 2014 14:50:46
I've never said this before but I have to take off my arsenal tinted goggles and state the truth.

He's too good for a club like us :(

15 Jul 2014 00:39:48
Sheeny, if your saying Khedira is too good for Arsenal, that is hands down the most ridiculous post I've ever read on this site.

15 Jul 2014 01:20:32
David Luiz Peter.

15 Jul 2014 09:05:28
My bad sheeny, I apologise mate

14 Jul 2014 11:04:17
I'm a lot happier with us signing Khedira after watching last night.

A lot of people want a complete CDM who doesn't get forward, Khedira isn't that. Germany showed last night that you can play a 4-2-3-1 formation without a true CDM. Both Schweinsteiger & Kroos got forward but they were rarely outnumbered at the back as they made sure someone always stayed back if the fullbacks got up.

True that. Just two guys wit great engins.

Yeah & we'll have 2 great engines in the midfield with Ramsey & Khedira. Khedira seems like a leader too, great character & has that winner mentality we need!

The more German steel, the better!

Don't jump the gun re Khedira.

Lets sign him first boys.

Totally agree

I agree Dags, what I meant was I wasn't sure if I wanted us to sign him at first, now I do.

14 Jul 2014 14:34:04
Fair point Jonny, agree with you mate.

14 Jul 2014 14:54:58
I'm with you Jonny I want Bender but I've grown to the idea of

Sami Ramsay
Ozil
Walcott Sanchez
??

Baloteli!

Cavani!

14 Jul 2014 18:22:19
Balotelli is as useful as a chocolate tea pot!

But he could hardly go wrong with that supply!

14 Jul 2014 00:44:05
So Jack Wilshere, once billed as the future of our club, an England captain in waiting once again leaves himself open to what I consider some quite necessary criticism.

Really can't believe the pictures in the mirror.

This is a guy who was bleating about having to turn it on this year, that he's not a young player and that he needs to do better.

Well you're right mate. You're a dad of two and were looking at buying khadiera and maybe someone else in the middle because you've failed to deliver and you're behaving like some person with more Money than sense.

I don't mind one indiscretion but this is becoming ridiculous with this kid.

I remember when he first came on the scene when he was 16 he came into a boozer in bromley where Pennant and Jeffers used to drink and bet, I thought not you. Well there you go stupid Englishman reason why well never win a wc

14 Jul 2014 01:15:32
Just out of interest which boozer in bromley? I have been in bromley for years and don't know of a place suitable for a football fan let alone a football player.

Jack has a lot of issues to work out but about this particular one I have to say I can't see a problem. He was on holiday and he had a party in a pool. What is the big fuss here? The picture in mirror has only one purpose, to get you mad at Jack for no real reason, spread the word and make more people to check out their website. That's the hole point of today's journalism.

It's a shame, but I do think it's just going to be sensationalised by the English media.

They get to slag off Arsenal and England, it's like a dream for them.


If Jack was 18/19 I think it'd be something where someone could give him a clip round the ear and we move on.

But now he's an Arsenal regular and an England international.
And I think we can only have so much more patience.

In all honesty, if we do sign someone like Khedira or bender, then they will start with Ramsey in that midfield duo for me, every time!
Jack is an immense talent, and he has been unlucky with some injuries, but he can't get away with a 'wonder kid' or 'talented youth' sort of tag now, he's a senior player.

I do hate to say it, but he could waste a career that looks very promising, if he keeps acting the fool.

Am I right in saying, the lads on holiday at the moment. Most people enjoy their hols and let their hair down. Different when he is training.

14 Jul 2014 12:18:22
Was going to post something similar last night.

Time for Jack to step up and bring his game to the next level.

This is a big season for Arsenal, but probably a bigger season for Jack.

If Toni Kroos hadn't already agreed a deal to move to Madrid then I'd tell him to pack his bags and slap the money on the table for Kroos.

I agree with you there D.

In the words of Mario Balotelli(sort of). "Why always him?"

Bermuda.
It was the freelands tavern - used to get a lot of players show up there, there was a bit of a gambling ring going. Like I say Pennant and Jeffers used to go there a lot, as did a number of others from different clubs.

Aussie and D_ I'm sorry but when he can see Khadiera and maybe someone else being bought because in his own admission he hasn't progressed then he should not be smoking.
The club have stood by him through a lot - I'm not talking injuries, he's 22years old and been arrested twice for things which the club has done well to trivialize, as well as the quite open secret as to why he was, "injured" for over a year.
He's taking the piss.

14 Jul 2014 14:08:29
Wilshire ability has always been over hyped, he is just another overrated player who is/was never good enough

{Ed025's Note - you could be right SS, but even if he never plays again, he will still have won more than any current spurs player ever has or is ever likely to win mate..

14 Jul 2014 14:40:55
Hehe,

Go Ed.

Legend.

14 Jul 2014 15:01:21
How about the night when Xavi Iniesta & Messi were lining up to swap jerseys with him.

It took Ramsay two seasons to come back from a year out at that age. Let's see how he does this season

AG, I think he needs to be worried about his performances in general, not due to smoking.

As I said, if, we sign Khedira or Bender, I'd start them with Ramsey in the CM 2 we play.

But it's still to early to write him off.
I think we'd be surprised how many players actually smoke if they all did it openly!
It's well know a fair few of the French lads do, why isn't that a big drama?
I do however think this season could be make or break for Jack.

Scotspur, this Wilshire player sounds awful, really like he's been hyped up too much, as you say.
Glad Wilshere isn't like that.

14 Jul 2014 22:36:11
The original AG,

Thanks for the reply mate shall have to give it a visit, have been past it many times without ever going in.

15 Jul 2014 00:55:01
Couldn't agree more with Sheeny. Wilshere is class, don't expect all players/people to mature at the same age. His time will come.

{Ed027's Note - potentially class mate, long way to go yet