Arsenal Banter Archive May 14 2018

14 May 2018 23:17:43
Would you fellas takes Benitez? I wouldn't mind him back at Liverpool if it opens up in the future.

Still think he's a great manager.

15 May 2018 16:50:42
Of course we would. Some might even be praying for him now the field is getting smaller in the managerial race.

14 May 2018 20:11:56
Do we miss Alexis Sanchez?

I would say the Sanchez of previous season's, yes, but not the Sanchez of this season. It would also appear he has taken this season's Arsenal form to Man Utd.

14 May 2018 20:36:15
What was he like during the first half of the season dags? And hopefully he's back to form after a proper pre-season.

14 May 2018 20:46:58
Dags he was better for us first half than he has been for united easy! Also miki has been better for us in the second half than he was for united in the first! Win win. And I’d say miki is doing more for us than Sanchez at united! Tell me I’m wrong 👍🏻.

14 May 2018 21:09:55
Alexis Sanchez has been our best signing post invincibles and he gave us 3 great seasons where he carried the team on loads of occasions, how can you not miss a player like that mate?
Did Liverpool miss Suarez? It's impossible not to miss any player of that quality.
Pea is good and might if we are lucky prove to be as big a success as Sanchez in an Arsenal shirt but we would be in a far better position if we still had both.

14 May 2018 21:15:24
I miss sanchez. Lol. But i'm happy with auba.

14 May 2018 21:15:39
Agree Sanogo.

Scholes_18. Sanchez is quality, but he seem's to have gone off the boil this season. I thought his move to Utd would "Ignite" him, but he appears to be totally off form, compared to what he's capable of.

14 May 2018 21:29:28
Agree Steve.

14 May 2018 22:31:24
G62,
Are you talking/ thinking of the Sanchez of last season and previous 2 season's, or the Sanchez of this season, who has been average for us and Utd?

14 May 2018 23:05:12
Dags there is only one Alexis Sanchez mate :-) , form comes and goes but quality is forever.
Ashley Cole Cesc Fabregas Alexis Sanchez how many sides could seriously lose them and not be worse for doing so.
I know it's not popular to say this but players who we consided brilliant when they played for us don't really less brilliant when they leave that's just just a 4th place trophyism we like to think is true because it makes us feel better ourselves:-) .

15 May 2018 01:21:34
Depends timing, gunner. Van Persie had one season left in him when he left. Wouldn't surprise me if Sanchez is coming to the end of his prime now himself. hope he proves me wrong though, aside from united winning, quality professional and not a bad man for me. Hope he takes all that United moula back to Chile and does some wonderful things.

15 May 2018 10:10:32
Our best signing since the invincibles era seems like Auba. If he has the same form next season, he is set to score 30+ goals in a full season.

14 May 2018 19:11:46
Well it appears Allegri is going to stay at Juve. Enrique has priced himself out of it. If it was Ancellotti I think we would have known by now so below is five managers who are still in the frame and I've sorted them by my preference
1- Viera
2-Nagelstam
3-Benitez
4-Jardim
5-Arteta.

14 May 2018 19:34:38
I’d have Rafa first In That list.

14 May 2018 19:53:27
Out of interest - why do you have two ex-players with limited management experience at the top and bottom of your list? Is there really that big a difference between the two as a manager? Arteta’s article on his management style makes interesting reading but is he or Vieira really ready?

The list is scary full stop as surely Benitez can’t be considered as we will have to put up with his style of football but mainly relentless manning about lack of funds.

What about Ancelotti? Still my favourite but would he be happy with our budget and that we are putting coaching staff in place before the manager signs.

Not slagging your list off - I like to learn and interested in others thought process / opinions hence coming on the site.

14 May 2018 20:23:59
how does viera rank above benitez jardim and nagelsmann?

14 May 2018 20:35:20
Hello SY4 I chose Paddy first because he is one of my all time Arsenal players with a fantastic winners attitude and he has got some managerial experience albeit in the states. Nagelstam from the odd occasion I've seen Hoffenheim play on BT Sport and what has been read and said about him he is a gamble but so is any managerial appointment but I think he is worth a try.

Rafa I really just like the bloke and I think he is tactically very good and has won trophies, at his clubs. Jardim has done a excellent job at Monaco even more so since he lost all his, best players and once again I would be willing to take a punt on him. Arteta I put last because I have serious doubt's about his capabilities and is only on my list because he is being touted as possible choice.

Having said that I think he would make a good no2 under Ancellotti, who you mentioned and I personally wouldn't mind but has the reason I gave earlier if it was Carlo has he is between jobs I think we would have known by now. I think you will agree me though SY4 that whoever it is we all need to get behind him and the team because they will need it.

14 May 2018 21:42:54
I haven't given up on Allegri yet ;)

15 May 2018 05:09:25
Totally agree 64,and thanks for sharing.

14 May 2018 16:35:16
The next manager and this summer will tell us more about kronk and his ambition and ownership than anything so far.

14 May 2018 17:40:58
The past summers should have told you enough about him steve . He has zero ambition. did an interview saying he admires how the glazers ran united but he seems to be conveniently forgetting that glazers took control of united when they were a bigger club than us.

They have more revenue and they can spend a lot of money in the transfer market just from the revenue they raise. we on the other hand, are lagging behind them in every aspect, more importantly in our commercial deals which means the owner must be willing to spend a few millions of his own which i don't think he will.

wenger was just a symptom of a bigger problem. the bigger problem at the club is kroenke. Doesn't invest, doesn't do interviews, never seen him outline his vision and how he will achieve it and most importantly rarely attends football matches. That should tell you a lot about him.

14 May 2018 17:30:45
Kroenke out said this for years.

14 May 2018 18:06:29
Ive been kronk out for a long while. What i meant was, it will all be out on the open, the ambition, for all to see. It could spark fresh protests against him, unless he shows more.

14 May 2018 18:13:59
If kronk pushes the boat out and get Enrique or Allegri or a n other and gives them a budget of 150mil for a rebuild, you would at least have to respect the effort. If we get arteta or howe and he gives them a budget of 50 mil, then i think the feeling would be even more toxic than it is now. The fans pay premium prices or everything, they don't want value saver quality, they want perceived ambition at least to match the cost of watching.

14 May 2018 18:58:17
Steve
Time to get your placards out, I think it will be a rookie or Brendon.
I think we will look back and be glad of what we had.
Still it’s what some wanted.

14 May 2018 19:10:21
Welsh do you think the new bloke won't be able to improve our away record. I think i could. Lol.

14 May 2018 19:13:58
Welsh, i actually think anyone could have achieved what we achieved this season. i'm aftaid i won't be looking back and wishing, i only look forward. I hope the club does too.

14 May 2018 20:28:36
agree with you steve. I think it will come out in the open now that wenger is gone. Wenger was taking a lot of flak for him. I refuse to believe that wenger was offered money to spend and he didn't want to. I refuse to believe that because wenger was buying during the first part of his tenure even though at a bargain prices at times.

14 May 2018 21:21:26
Punani, wenger had the money to get players and the one that typifies wenger, was getting xhaka over kante and paid more for xhaka because he didn't want to meet the wage demands of kante, earlier before chelski came in. He dillied and dallied and lost his chance. That happened too often.

14 May 2018 21:22:07
Wenger just got the wrong players for the wrong money.

14 May 2018 21:28:40
Punani, wenger in his time bought some right stinkers and as time went on, he lost his knack of buying players and the stinkers became more the norm. Especially the defence side. He ignored what actually was needed to stop the rot and the rot set in.

14 May 2018 23:06:49
Wenger lost his touch in the transfer market towards the end of his tenure but doubt kroenke will back the new manager heavily in the transfer market. The telegraph reported that arsenal have a transfer budget of 50m and i think that is true. That is shocking considering the team needs 200m plus investment plus anything else recopued from sales.

14 May 2018 13:27:13
Thanks eds for all your hard work this season and I feel sorry for you this summer coming up.

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, I have a feeling it will be a long one!}

14 May 2018 14:53:14
Yeah me to.

{Ed001's Note - actually it has been pretty long already...}

14 May 2018 15:06:57
Ed01 isn’t it constantly summer in Dubai. ☀️☀️☀️ I’m stopping over for a few days in September and it’s supposed to be up near the 40’s and that’s after the summer! 😅.

{Ed001's Note - it gets cold in the winter mate, sometimes drops as low as 14c in the early hours. September is still hot, very hot, the beginning is still summer really. Mind, after 4 years here now, if it gets below 30c I am reaching for a jacket!}

14 May 2018 15:55:37
L7cky for some ed.

{Ed001's Note - it has certainly done wonders for my health being out here.}

14 May 2018 16:07:06
And here’s me melting in a balmy 18 degrees. 😁.

{Ed001's Note - whereabouts are you going and how long for?}

14 May 2018 16:46:22
Just doing 3 days there ed from 15th Sept, staying at the Atlantis and will probably, well no probably, as the wife will insist, do the Dubai Mall along with the Burj up to the 125th or 148th.

Got any recommends?

{Ed001's Note - bloody hell you must have some money! I only really know the cheap bits mate, though I do admit I love Dubai Mall because I love the aquarium, could spend days watching the fish. Also love the shop for the aquarium, well not the shop, the shop window which is a big fish tank. The mall is huge though, you could easily spend 3 days just exploring it and the market across the opposite side of the bridge by the dancing fountain. By Burj I assume you mean Khalifa? There are a lot of Burjs as it means tower. I have to say the Burj Al Arab is a great place to visit too. The lobby is incredible.

It is well worth a trip to the Gold Soukh and La Mer or Al Seef are really nice. A trip down the canal is good and the night time dhow cruises are worth doing. If you are going to go to the gold soukh - get a abra across the creek from Al Seef, that is really nice (and cheaper than getting a taxi) and you will be able to wave to me as I live near the creek. Jumeirah Beach is nice mate, but as you are at Atlantis you have the beach there and the water park there is nice and relaxing, though a bit boring I think. I could write you a huge list of places to visit but it depends what you want, what kind of things you want to do.

The Marina is nice, as is the walk along JBR, particularly at night, with the Real Madrid café etc. Oh and if you want an experience you really can't get anywhere else, go to the ski centre in Mall of the Emirates and take the missus to meet the penguins. That is something else. It is literally the only place in the world that you can actually hug and kiss a penguin.

One thing I would say is, don't bother getting up and going out early, nothing really opens before 10am. It is an evening/night time place mostly.

If you need a guide let me know, my Egyptian mate Sayed is a tour guide here, so if you want to do things like the desert trips let me know and I will speak to him about getting you discount. He is a good lad, spent a fair bit of time in England so you will actually be able to understand him very easily!}

14 May 2018 17:49:30
Haha, I wish I had loads of money ed, I’m still trying to win the lottery, a single ticket won £21 million Saturday and sadly it wasn’t me.

I’m going to have to copy and paste your reply and start googling, the wife has just said she’d love to do the penguin bit. 🤪

With only 3 days it’s getting around to doing it all, though will no doubt go again and yes the huge tower as its supposed to be pretty impressive. A lift that does 125 floors in about a minute sounds like a Disney ride too.

Thanks for the offer re Sayad but I’m not sure we’ll get out to do a desert trip this time but if we do I’ll get in touch.

I’ll give you a shout when we’re out and if your in the Mall I’ll get you a coffee and cake or what ever they do. 😁.

{Ed001's Note - I can easily get to the Mall from mine mate, it is only 10-15 minutes away. If you want bars, every hotel has a bar and there are thousands of hotels. I just assumed you were minted staying in Atlantis as that is dead expensive. I am not a fan of the Khalifa as I am terrified of heights, went in the Burj Al Arab's bar right at the top, the one that sticks out and couldn't sit near the window as I was sick each time I looked out.

Oh avoid the Mall on a Friday - it is hellish in there on a Friday as that is the main day off, so everyone goes.}

14 May 2018 18:20:15
You must be minted ed as apparently afternoon tea for two in there Burj Al Arab is over £400! 😂

From what I’ve read that’s the only way you can get in that place. I’m not really a drinker ed hence the offer of coffee, bit sad I know, haha. I’ll give you a shout nearer the time if that’s good with you.

I went to a nice hotel in Pathos last year which was pretty expensive and was even more this year so wife suggested Mauritius and 3 days in Dubai and 10 in Mauritius was the same price for this year in Cyprus. Crazy.

{Ed001's Note - I went many years ago and the company paid for it as it was my then gf's birthday.

I don't drink either mate, I was just assuming you would. Coffee suits me fine. Feel free to give me a shout nearer the time.

Dubai used to be dead cheap back when I first came here, now it can be expensive if you don't know where to go. I live in the old part where it is cheaper, much cheaper, places like Satwa (otherwise known as Little Manila) are cheap, or Naif right by the Gold Soukh is cheap but not the area you want to take the missus!

If you avoid beachside hotels you can get a much cheaper stay here and they all do a free bus transfer to the malls and beaches anyway. I still use the free buses to get around sometimes, as you can jump on them in the mall and no one ever questions you!}

14 May 2018 19:49:17
Will do ed and won’t do Naïf, I think I’ll probably skip the afternoon tea too as £400 is mental.

{Ed001's Note - you are in Atlantis, I would suggest getting out of there for everything that is not included in the price you paid, only it is very expensive. You can spend a fortune in Dubai very easily on just eating out etc without noticing when you are a tourist. If you get out of the malls to eat, it is much cheaper.}

14 May 2018 12:42:47
From what Ed002 has said, from the remaining options available, either Vieira, Jardim, or the Germany manager. Ed002 said the likes of Henry and Arteta are too much of a risk to take now.

14 May 2018 13:22:07
Or the nanglesman or how ever he is spelt.

14 May 2018 13:24:45
He said something like ". they won't, I hope, be considered. "
I also hope not, but the club has been very poor fulfilling fan's hopes lately.

14 May 2018 09:22:30
Listen! Arteta is not going to get the Arsenal job. Not a chance would the board be that stupid! If he was in the dugout for the first game I’m sure there would be boos!

14 May 2018 11:38:47
Sanogo this board have done worse things. I wouldn't be surprised if arteta is our coach next season. If he is chosen, he might prove to be an inspired choice but the club has to spend.

14 May 2018 11:50:55
I fear for us if Arteta in our next coach as to me it's the cheap no real ambition choice from the Board. Arteta would not upset the finacial applecart and ask for the funds we need to invest which is a big problem, he will be a meak yes man to the board. Arteta is too cosy with a lot of the existing players and would not give them the shake up they need. The job is far to big for him in my opinion. If we can't get the likes of Alegri I much rather get Rafa to be honest.

14 May 2018 11:54:03
I agree sano, if the board are seriously giving all the candidates all due diligence, then arteta will not be our new leader. If it is finance and the easy cheap option and the people brought in to take this club forward have been ignored, then i can see it. Arteta would not be a very good initial choice.

14 May 2018 02:52:26
I'm very worried about all this Arteta nonsense going on.
It will be, IMO, an awful option from all points of view. Can't believe the board could make such a misfiting decision about our new manager. Or could they?
Ed002, there's anything you can share with us about this subject?

{Ed002's Note - I have explained that they have found certain coaches they were interested in not to be viable options for one reason or another. Allegri also now seems to be of the opinion that the job would not suit him. I have explained the others that can now be ruled out. So right now, the options are reducing.}

14 May 2018 09:11:20
Arteta is the cheap option for the baord. If he gets the job it says everything about the clubs lack of ambition for me.

14 May 2018 11:36:05
Arteta could turn out to be a inspired choice but it does more harm than good, as the general feeling is that arsenal are giving the job to areteta because he is cheap and they don't want to spend.

If they will give arteta 200 million odd quid fine, i think the anger of the fanbase will reduce but if they give the job to arteta and they don't spend, the emirates might be more toxic than a nucleaur plant next season.

14 May 2018 09:06:03
Ed, from your list, who is left in the race? Sorry to be a pain and is there any new names to consider?
Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Allegri will take some persuading and commitment. I am not aware of any new names.}

14 May 2018 12:03:03
Thanks for the answer ed002, although very disappointed by it.
Clearly I don't have a clue what going on inside the club, but it look like a mess from the outside.
I can understand that you can't always have your preferred options and have to move down on the list, but to consider for a big club someone with no manegerial experience at all, that has never shown a strong character that could match up to the task, that could divide the fans and even the players, seems very very odd to me. Especially when someone so fit to the task like Ancelotti was available and keen for the job.
Hope the decision is for the best, and our duty is to get behind whoever is chosen, but let say the board is really giving us the fan a hard time once again in a moment when some hope is desperately needed.

14 May 2018 07:39:41
Can someone please explain why Rafa Benitez is not in the frame for the Arsenal job? Allegri wants to stay at Juve and our other candidates are nothing special in all honesty! (other than Naglesmann but he isn't really in the frame) . Rafa has taken a very weak squad with no investment down to the championship, has come straight back up to the premiership and finished the campaign in 10th! What he has achieved with that squad is incredible and all he wants is a little investment which Mike Ashley is not prepared to give him. Brilliant manager, great stint at Liverpool, Chelsea (interim) , Napoli and Madrid also!

14 May 2018 09:14:20
Rafa is not a bad shout would 100% rather him than Arteta. Plenty of experience a good tactician and knows what it takes to win things. Mike Ashley will never give him the funds and control he wants at Newcastle until he sells on, so if Arsenal show some ambition we could get him.

14 May 2018 11:19:58
Glenn i am not sure nagelsmann is in the frame. If he is and he is interested in the job, i can't fathom why he won't get it seeing his competitors being arteta and viera who have no experience coaching at the top level. My gut feeling is he may not be interested in the arsenal job. we are not as hot as we think we are.

14 May 2018 12:20:53
Glen, you forgot valencia, rafa is a fantastic coach and would fit us too a tee. He doesn't need billions of pounds to get teams doing their jobs. He is a studious man and this board are stupid if he isn't in the top three of consideration. I also think, talking too people who watch Newcastle, he would come. They all expect himto go. They don't want him too but they think he will.

14 May 2018 05:19:46
So the end of an era.
It will be interesting to see, now that the season is over, whether we have secured a manager.
The latest 'noise' is clearly Arteta. If that be the case, I will of course back him, but his appointment would not be one of my top choices.
Today's top three:
1.Allegri
2.Benitez
3.Ancelotti

Today's 'bold' choices:
1.Nagelsmann
2.Vieira as manager with Henry as assistant manager.
3.Marco Silva.

No's
1.Arteta
2. Howe
3. Dyche.

14 May 2018 06:22:50
Mancini?

14 May 2018 07:04:22
SY4 - I think he is the new manager of the Italian national team?

14 May 2018 09:04:45
Arteta it is then.

14 May 2018 11:15:20
Nagelsmann would be my choice but think we are going to end up with arteta. everything is pointing in that direction. No way allegri would come to arsenal and have a board that is not willing to spend.