Arsenal Banter Archive September 14 2015

14 Sep 2015 20:04:26
Ed - love it:

{Ed001's Note - now that is the thing. Ozil does things nobody else sees, including large numbers of fans. He is quality.}

{Ed001's Note - It is true though, they don't appreciate him because they just don't see what he brings. Makalele suffered in a similar way until he left Real Madrid and they fell apart without him. Suddenly all the pundits were pointing out how great he was. Ozil is the same, because the pundits don't have the intelligence to see what he does and point it out, most football fans don't see it. Not all their fault, as a large portion of his work is happening off camera.}

14 Sep 2015 20:28:31
Opinions guys opinions, what are we here for.

14 Sep 2015 20:46:19
For me until we get players as good as what ozil had around him at Madrid you won't see the best of him. Coupled with the fact la liga is no where near as physical or has as many quality teams. I'm happy with ozil and as much of a moaning s..t you are Steve I like a lot of what you say

14 Sep 2015 20:59:09
The view from the cheap seats its what it is - cheap.

But let's face it if we didn't have cheap seats the place would be empty and we would be lacking in atmosphere. So thanks for that at least Steve ;-))

For me, Ozil is an absolutely fantastic football player and a great asset to our team. I would have never have said this last year but over time keeping him over Cesc Fabulous (one of my all time fav gunners btw) is going to turn out be a masterstroke. Well played Boss Wenger, well played!

14 Sep 2015 21:27:01
Totally agree with ED001.
Sanchez Saurez are in ya face brilliant and its not difficult to see what they bring to their team, Le Coq is well under valued by many dispute the massive impact he's had on our team in under a year because he is simply rather than spectacularly brilliant.

14 Sep 2015 21:43:43
Thanks bro but moaner, no, never. i'm deeply hurt.

{Ed025's Note - I might do a poll on that Steve.. :)

14 Sep 2015 21:50:30
Red never take what I say seriously in its entirety, I do mean what I say, but I like to spice it up a bit now and then. 90% of what I say is bull poo, but 10% right is bloody good on here.

14 Sep 2015 21:57:55
Rooster there is no cheep seats in the Emirates

{Ed025's Note - I might get my bird one of those cheep seats brow.. :)

14 Sep 2015 23:13:51
Agreed!

14 Sep 2015 23:50:45
I said some months ago how Watching Bergkamp in his first few games he looked like he couldn't pass to an Arsenal player if he tried, that was because he was putting the ball in to places our player's should have been, but we were still breaking out of our George Graham era of pragmatic don't risk being too far up the pitch football.
As soon as our attacker's got used to it you could see how far ahead Bergkamp was, I'm sure at some point we'll start seeing that with Ozil, he is class

15 Sep 2015 08:08:40
bergkamp scored double figures in his first 5 seasons. a class above ozil i'm afraid

15 Sep 2015 23:05:56
I don't mean to comapare them like that Derby, but the way they both see the game is a on another level to most player's around them.
And slightly off point but Bergkamp is quite easily the best player I've seen in an Arsenal shirt, all that flair but was nasty enough not to get bullied

14 Sep 2015 18:40:17
People who are hoping for Ozil to add goals to his game forget it , that isn't what he is ir was about , that isn't his game and never will be, if Ozil was scoring highly in Spain he would have cost us .......................well he wouldn't have becaus eA wouldn't have considered it

14 Sep 2015 19:42:24
Love the player he is bambam but he could quite easily bring 10 goals in a season if he was just slightly sellfish, I think the goals will come with him he just needs to pick his moments.

But with the chances this guy makes someone else should be able to pick up the burden surely

Class on grass

14 Sep 2015 18:09:45
I play football.. not a proffesional though.. and i got to say the most difficult thing to have is to see that pass which nobody else on the field Can! Which is why i love watching Mesut Ozil play! Not every pass will come off but its because of players like him we come to watch football! COYG😀

{Ed001's Note - now that is the thing. Ozil does things nobody else sees, including large numbers of fans. He is quality.}

14 Sep 2015 18:48:13
Totally agree his vision is unique

14 Sep 2015 19:00:48
His vision is so good he can spot a pre 2004 Chelsea fan

Saw that earlier online it made me laugh

{Ed025's Note - good one that D16..

14 Sep 2015 19:11:13
Mesut does have to check and delay passes at times because others just aren't on his metal football level, that's not being derogatory to our other players its just a fact.
Adapting his natural game to fit in with us has taken time and is an ongoing process that is getting better and better every month that passes, the absolute best of Mesut Ozil is yet to come I just hope we're lucky enough to still have him in an Arsenal shirt when it does

14 Sep 2015 21:06:26
Great comment gunner, I saw something very similar a couple of years ago when Beckham went to the US to play. Looked like he wasn't doing anything but playing safe balls out to the side, Arteta like. Once Robbie Keane showed up it was game on, plus the team lifted its quality to catch with him and as a result few trophies.

Passers are a different breed than the Ronaldo's and Bales of the world.

14 Sep 2015 17:54:32
Dags

I saw your post saying

" saying let's or laugh at Chelsea "

Ha ha ha

Not too sure I would be jumping on your band wagon just yet , they are due to find some form very soon , class is permanent as they say.

Wednesday we travel miles for an away fixture and Chelsea stay in London and then we have a lunchtime kick off against ......yes Chelsea , ................the perfect time for Chelsea to find their form and win comfortably against us. Football is a funny old game as you know.

For once I agree with Wenger and agree that this fixture should be on the Sunday to even things out or we play on Tuesday.

Time will tell ...........................but I wouldn't be laughing at Chelsea just yet mate

14 Sep 2015 18:21:44
As I said yesterday, I would happily take a point. Really can't understand Steve's comment that a draw would be a big disappointment for us.

14 Sep 2015 18:26:55
Moments of satisfaction in football are very brief Banbury . So let's keep laughing until the weekend

14 Sep 2015 18:57:07
Ubistonk, its got nothing to do with my thoughts personally, a draw would be disappointing for chelski because they will not win the league this year. For us it would be another failure so early on in the season, that we will be a step closer to not winning the league before the end of september. Plus I was not just on about me, it was about more fuel for the disgruntled fans getting restless and bubbling up, that's why it will be disappointing.

14 Sep 2015 20:26:37
Bambam,

I always take 1 game at a time, so Chelsea losing to Everton was worth a "let's all laugh at Chelsea" quote, lol.

Will be very happy with a point at The Bridge.

Ps, good shout for your 2-0 prediction vs Stoke mate.

14 Sep 2015 13:52:33
Did we seriously let podolski go for just 1.8m
That's an absolute steel for gala if so

14 Sep 2015 14:14:46
He is rubbish mate. And he was on £100k per week.

14 Sep 2015 18:36:09
Yes it was 1.8 m

And UG Podolski is far from rubbish

14 Sep 2015 19:03:55
You are right Banbury, he is much worse than that. How did he get on at Inter again? You know that joke club in that joke league? Yeah that's right, he ended up on the bench with all those other terrific players who fill the Inter bench. A players value is determined by how much the market is willing to pay for him. If we could have got more money for him we would have. But nobody decent wanted him, because he is completely washed up and if he doesn't score a goal he offers nothing to a game of football. Therefore his market value is close to zero.

14 Sep 2015 19:09:25
Podolski has one of the best left foots in the world. He is a world class finisher. can't tackle, can't pass, didn't work hard enough. Funny haven't we been here before.

14 Sep 2015 19:35:46
Couldn't believe my eyes when I read that's all he cost.

Like you say...he has a brute of a left peg, plenty wonder goals.
Well worth the 1.8m U.G, that guy saved our ass' on more than one occasion

{Ed025's Note - market forces determine the price Je, his value is £1.8m because no one would pay more for him mate..