Arsenal Banter Archive January 15 2014

 

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15 Jan 2014 22:51:31
My wife say's she is leaving me because of my obsession with soap opera's.

Will she ever leave me?

Tune in next week to find out.

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Its true what they say about soap operas, they really do keep you on your toes. my money was her leaving due to the terrible jokes

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You could be right 1404, lol

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15 Jan 2014 22:56:48
Lukas Podolski did a little fan Q&A on twitter earlier.

Amongst a lot of his humorous and entertaining questions and responses, one fan asked him, "if you had to choose, play for Tottenham or Retire, what would it be?"

His answer?
One word.
"Retire"


Regardless of what he does now, welcome to immortality Lukasz.

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He is now officially a legend lol

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Been a legend

Love Poldi

Moved to London and made it a point to immerse himself into the culture and community

Every club needs a Poldi to set an example of how to be a professional and teammate

Rocket shots don't hurt either

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15 Jan 2014 22:28:51
So, we have now lost Rosicky and Monreal for the foreseeable future, plus Arteta is going to be out for a while too, jeez.

Rambo should be back for the Fulham game and we might get a glimpse of Sanogo, who could turn out to be "our hero" if he starts banging in the goals.

He cost nothing, nobody knows anything about him, could he be our very own caped crusader?

Watch this space.

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Wow I didn't realise his nose injury was that bad. Are we jinxed or something? effing unbelievable Dags.

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On "Physio-room", they said he has a broken nose and no iminent return date.

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Goldboy, the Little Mozart has a very 'delicate' nose. It kept him sidelined for most of 08/09 after all.

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Broken nose 2 weeks max surely? And then a lovely looking face mask!

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Still at least its not Giroud if it had been his nose he would have been out for the rest of the season. LOL

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15 Jan 2014 22:17:53
Edin Dzeko anybody?

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I'll take some thank you

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Not overly sure about dzeko - my mates a mancity fan and puts him as a lazy player.

After watching the villa gamme they can keep benteke. even though he scored he isn't as good as giroud (or even a proper NB)

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15 Jan 2014 20:30:20
Buying Mandzukic to replace Giroud is absurd, even if it is in the summer

They are the same striker, lack of speed, high work rate, great link play, in box finisher

Why does Mandzukic look better? Let's see.

Because he has the 2 best wingers in the world and Schweini and Muller for support

Give Giroud that and he bags 30 goals

We have played without one pure winger all year. Who is supposed to cross to Giroud?

Watch a Bayern match and see how many times Mandzukic is fed the ball from a wide position

Buying Mandzukic is having 2 Giroud's

Either buy a Di Maria to flank Ozil and Giroud, otherwise focus needs to be WORLD CLASS center forward.

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Diego Costa?

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I'd love Costa, don't see why he would leave now

They are strong enough to mount a challenge in CL a la Dortmund, and are smack in middle of title race

Would be a miracle

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15 Jan 2014 19:55:37
Does anyone else think £37.5m - £40m is a heck of a lot of money for Julian Draxler? He's so young aswell and in my opinion is impressive but not worthy of that price tag. He seems like another LM/CAM aswell. We need a out and out winger who will bomb down the flank, worry teams with his pace and provide great service to our Striker.

To me, Draxler seems like a nailed on transfer to happen either this window or the next. Mind we thought the same about Mvila and Mata. I really think that £40m could be put to better use. Di Maria, Lavezzi or Rues for starters, maybe even Pogba and Griezeman? I don't think a LW/RW should be priority when we have Gnabry, Walcott, Ox and Podolski. We need a tip top Striker and imposing CDM more.

Also people saying they expected more from Ozil, I have to say I agree to an extent. From a player of his calibre and price tag you'd of thought he'd dominate games more. he's come from a team where he was fairly unappreciated and just another cog in a team that feeds Ronaldo. Coming to a new club where he is idolised and seem as one of the top 5 players in the league, I would have thought he would have relished this opportunity more. He does show flashes of brilliance and grab a lot of assist, but I expected him to run the show.

You could argue its good we aren't relying on him like we did with RVP to an extent. I think he does need a better/pacier forward ahead of him. You could say ges adapting to a new league etc. Well look at Aguero, Hazard, Mata, Cazorla, Negredo. They all slotted right in. Ozil is better than most of them, why couldn't he do the same. Also the argument he has "lifted" the club. Think about it, Wenger lifted the club by pulling off that signing. You can't really give Mesut credit for that. i'm not saying I don't appreciate what he has done. His mere presence on the pitch has had an impact on our players and opponents. He is a fantastic talent and can grow to be as good as Zidane.

Please don't crucify me for this, just my opinion.

Peace

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Agreed, problem is City, Chelsea, PSG, Madrid and Barca have skewed the playing field on spending so horribly that market value has gone up for everyone

Look what Barca paid for a 20 yr old Neymar, who although good, has not been a game changer whatsoever

Transfermarkt had Gotze rated at 45m euro the other day. That is absolutely ridiculous. He's not even fast, he's like 20 other attacking mids in Europe today

Potential yes, but 45m? Absurd

That's life now.

If we wanna compete we got to keep up.

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There's every chance Arsene will pull a rabbit out of the hat and come the summer we will have our self's a top class striker at great value for money.
Ozil is class we all know that and will probably shine brightest of any premier league stars next season, I think we all maybe expected a little to much to soon from him I certainly am guilty of that a much as anyone

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Detroit, you won't get crucified mate, its a very good post and I totally agree.

Personally speaking, and I know it won't happen but I would love Eden Dzeko, he hardly gets a game at City but still score everytime he plays, terrific player IMO.

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I would take Dzeko over Costa every time, but Dzeko has said that he wants to win the CL with City, as he thinks they have a good chance this season.
Jackson Martinez would be a good purchase.

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15 Jan 2014 19:50:37
A different line of rumours here, after my recent posts!

There's a slight whisper going around we're going to pop over to Portugal and take Rodrigo of Benfica.

Former Madrid youth, sold to Benfica a few years back, showed great potential but struggled thus far to really reach it.
Loaned to Bolton a couple season ago, with a less than successful spell.

If there's anyone to revitalise a relatively young players career, Arsene's the man!


Benfica had no intention of selling him, neither did they have intentions to sell Matic back to Chelsea.

However, they've hit financial issues due to not making the UCL.
They need to balance the books and are trying to offload players to make the cash back.

Zenit agreed a fee with Benfica, €17.5m for Eziquel Garay, a Utd target who may still end up in Manchester, but I'm not really following him!
And €30m for Rodrigo.

Whilst Garay is happy to move to Zenit if he doesn't go to Utd, Rodrigo's father has said his son has no interest in playing in a less competitive league and Rodrigo has rejected the move.

We'd never pay the €30m but the hope is a combination of Rodrigo jumping at the chance to play in the EPL and some thrifty Arsene and Ivan negotiations could secure him on a much lower, even loan deal.

For those who don't know (I'm by far a player encylopedia for the record, but Rodrigo is a player I followed, due to his impressive u-21 performances back in the day!
I felt he had a future and still do) Rodrigo showed promise a few years back in a u-21 tournament.

He's a 5"10(ish) left footed forward, fairly quick and likes to play in a typical Spanish build up fashion!
He's found game time harder to come by due to Benfica's preference and continued use of Oscar Cardozo.

Rodrigo's only 22 and still has a lot of time to develop.
As I say, hasn't played much for Benfica and if my memory serves, in the 3 years he's been there, he's only played around 60 games.


Useless Fun fact, he's somehow related to Thiago of Bayern!


Just more of the daily sunshine I like to spread with my fellow gunners! ;)

Peace

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Ha he does look just like Thiago

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15 Jan 2014 19:35:33
Signings very unlikely this Jan, We have shown in the past we are too one dimensional when negotiating, contract extensions are currently the order of the day, a triple announcement will come later this month to compensate for the lack of arrivals. Always been the plan, why else would contracts need to be renewed in Jan and not Nov/Dec/Feb/march

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15 Jan 2014 18:44:52
I heard on TV this season is our best chance to win the league as Chelski city utd and Liverpool will all be stronger next season?

I guess they are using the fact that we are in such massive debt, lose millions year on year, will be affected more than others by UAFA fair play rules, have to find the money for a new stadium and have such an ageing squad as the reasons we won't be stronger next season too.

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15 Jan 2014 19:35:59
Nice post G62

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What a post! Haha I'd love you to call pundits spewing garbage and relay that exact post

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G62, that's a blooming brilliant post, nail on the head mate. Spot on.

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15 Jan 2014 17:51:54
There seems to be a number who want Draxler at the Emirates but by selling the Pod as part of the deal. I totally agree with bringing in Draxler but absolutely disagree with selling the Pod! Imho, the Pod is a great player and not only on the pitch. I do not profess to have any knowledge of the dressing room, but the amount of positive comments about the Pod's influence in the d/room and the club as a whole cannot ALL be incorrect. He has been injured but he is back now and has already scored, and he has brought that German influence of shooting from anywhere and this is just what we have lacked in the recent past, so he should be kept, we need him! I would like atop striker and a wide man, but we will have to wait and see. COYG!

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I'll second that pete. well said

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Absolutely, I have a new slogan.

POD IS GOD(smiles).

Would hate to see Pod leave, he's a terrific player.

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15 Jan 2014 17:19:42
If Giroud was a better player then you would see why EVERYONE who has ever had anything to do with Mesut always mention the words WORLD CLASS when mentioning his name.
If you all were honest about Giroud then you would know he misses a lot more than he scores and if we had a Good striker not world class then he would of scored twice what Giroud has scored
Yardie71

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15 Jan 2014 17:14:40
Absolutely rubbish ed, the amount of stick and abuse they have given us the last 8 years is ridiculous. But I've taken it. Time to give it back, your not an arsenal fan so how would u know what it's been like for the last 8 years? You don't. I'm sorry for being a passionate arsenal fan. Yeah clearly a brave keyboard warrior seeing though I go to most arsenal away games and support the team, not sitting watchin on t.v to pretend I know what I'm talking about.

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{Ed004's Note - Well looks like I've succeeded we're you failed.. I got a reaction shame you didn't get what you wanted on the Manc site seems everyone else is in agreement with me that you're spouting shite.. The majority of utd fans through my 5 yrs + editing have shown arsenal fans maybe everton fans as well mostly respect and certainly more so than other teams so get off your high horse mate. Doesn't seem arsenal fans have responded well to the arrogance you're showing on other fans sites as well, quite embarrassing, I personally hate it when fellow utd fans go running their mouths off like yourself. Well done youve made it into the bitter fan club along with Marcellus etc. Also you pretty much proved me right in the fact that past 8 years you've had to take the stick as you said but haven't had the balls to come on the utd site before then. What makes you think sitting at home watching games means people know less than you do cause you have the opportunity to go to games? That's extremely arrogant IMO. There are numerous reasons people can't get to games, financial, geographical, age restrictions, family matters, jobs related etc doesnt mean you're a more intelligent or better fan}

Actually feel quite proud of my fellow gooners like dags and g62 going on other sites and posting with a bit respect and good banter which others respond to well. Let's keep it up lads.

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{Ed004's Note - I have no problem having banter with other teams fans as long as it isn't constant bitter and snide remarks. I still hope (as United now have no chance) that Arsenal win the league. I feel from an outsider looking in you lack a world class striker and possibly a world class defender though Mertesacker and Kos have formed a fantastic partnership. Shame Walcott is injured he seemed to be playing really well and was enjoyable to watch. If utd weren't on I'd tune in to near enough any Arsenal or Southampton game as both teams play good football}

Firstly The majority of fans that spread their opinions everywhere like to be arrogant. Mouthy fans at every club, utd fans are the same and generally have been.

I have no doubts that the ed run sites have one or two bad eggs. But the majority of us aren't mugs, save the fighting talk for the terraces mate.

Also ed004, why are you indulging this person? This is a place for a community to talk, not a playground. Just ban him and be done with it :p

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{Ed004's Note - I usually don't just a very, very slow day in work}

None of my business, but the grief I've taken off United fans over the last few years and their gloating over RVP means they deserve everything they get IMO, as long as it's in a reasonable spirit. Personally, watching United suffer is pretty enjoyable, and if that makes me a small person, so be it. Next!

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I am completely lost why our fans go on other boards

Makes no sense

I love talking about Arsenal. Who gives a rubbish what anyone else's fans think?

I think it's ridiculous

I don't need a Manc to tell me we played well and he sure as hell doesn't need me telling him they looked like crap if they did

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Thanks Belly.

USG, don't be such a poo poo bear, I always go on Manchester United and especially Liverpool banter page, its good fun mate.

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I just let the results do my bantering

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Can't sleep fellas, so breaking my rule of looking at other sites.

Ed04 hit the nail on the head. Myself, and most Utd supporters I know, have always had respect for Arsenal as a club, especially your manager, and if we don't win it, we'd be hoping you lot, amongst the other big clubs, would.

You're a proper club, with history and traditions like ourselves, who try to do things the right way, as regards trying to play good football whilst trying to develop young players and staying self-sufficient

Dagenham and Gunner62 come on our site regularly, and are always welcome. I've mentioned that sometimes it takes fans from other clubs to come on our site and give a little perspective to our current situation, when you see some of our Chicken Licken brigade carrying on.

Yer man, Valley, is free to do what he wants, but truth be told, his banter isn't even very good. I find it more strange that he felt the need, in his post below, to beg you all to go on our site to see his post, as a need for some sort of self-validation. How needy does that sound?

Anyway, you can't tell us anything we don't already know about the state of our team right now, so fill your boots, boys, but we will be back!

Good luck for the rest of the season, guys. Genuinely hope you put a spanner in the works of Chelsea and City. Hopefully next season, you'll just be back to being an annoying irritant :)

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Great post StevieK, A true gentleman.

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15 Jan 2014 16:03:18
Someone had to tell united fans how it was. And I have. Sick and tired of that deluded bunch. Check out my post lads. See if u agree with the points made. Can't wait to rattle a few cages

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{Ed004's Note - But you wouldn't have done that in previous seasons though.. I think every utd fan understands the position we are in. In fact it's the same position (transitional period) arsenal have been in past decade or so, so I thought they'd be the most understanding of the situation not sure how an arsenal fan can now go bragging about it. Just remember you still haven't won anything this season yet there is a long way to go. You are one brave keyboard warrior maybe we should make an award to show others how brave you are...}

15 Jan 2014 14:04:47
Does anyone else believe in the Draxler to Arsenal Story?

i think its being reported a bit too much for it to be an Arsenal related transfer.

Do you remember when we signed Ozil, the news all over for the week leading up to it. exactly, not how we operate.

Something smells fishy, perhaps Schalke want a bidding war or a team who are willing to pay the buyout clause and we are offering 20 million.

While i've seen moyes on TV as many times as i've seen top gear on Dave, I think Arsenal related january transfer = 0

for our sake i'm hoping a striker/winger/defender is involved.

a transfer at this point, from my point of view, mental strengthening for the team, to let them know, let's win this thing.

15 days to go, come on wenger, get that shopping trolley out, the back wheels have started rusting already.

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Laker to be honest, it looks like the Higuain to Arsenal rumours, everybody talked about him going to Arsenal and he ended up at Napoli. I would love to see him at Arsenal, watched few videos of him, I know youtube can make Giroud dribble like Ronaldo, but from what I have seen his movement is similar to RVP, he has great dribbling skills, has a good eye for a goal. He would complement our style of play and I believe he would be a fantastic signing.

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Lakerville.I would like to believe it mate but you know what? I can't bring myself to get involved in it.
The rumours in the summer with Higuain and others drove me up the wall. LOL

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15 Jan 2014 13:42:24
Would anyone do Podolski plus 15£ for Draxler?

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Schalke have Max meyer to take over if draxler leaves, and besides player plus cash deals never happen for transfers of those levels.

but if it is a unrelated question then yes, I would do the deal.

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For sure- yes, but unlikely.

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Not for me, Podolski is great player to have around, superb character, he loves Arsenal, players love him, fans love him. People are swapping him around like he's Eboue or Bendtner.

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Pod will be vital he is fresh from barely playing and hungry 1 game 1 goal since being back! Giroud can't play every cup and champs league game and who better to have one of the most capped current german players who scores plenty of goals when he gets a run in the team!

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Keep the Pod. POD IS GOD.

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15 Jan 2014 13:41:05
Hi Goldboy.

I can see where the question comes from but at the same time think its a bit of a redundant question

All clubs should want the best players they can get within their budgets. In our case these players are the best in the world so I don't think you can look at one big signing and then say " they failed so I'm not spending that kind of money on anyone else.". If you did that then you'd have a policy in place that prevents you from buying the best and thus will make it hard to compete

The truth is that AW has done an awesom job during the financially lean years just maintaining top 4. Now those years are past we have no choice other than to buy at market value so we can win and compete for things

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Top post Soops

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15 Jan 2014 12:08:51
Morning all, a quick update on my Draxler watch saga.

First off, Julian has an injury, as is well publicised today, however no idea where that's coming from as 90% of the non British paper sources are saying, he's just out till Schalke first game after the break, a minor knock.

Schalke general manager told ssn Germany that the club have received no bids from any club for Draxler.

This is pointless really.
Bids and enquiries are totally different things and above that, every player that's ever been involved in a transfer ever, has always been said to have "not been subject of a bid" before moving in the next week.

Not saying that's what's happening now, but there you are!


Make of it what you will.

Hope your all having a good morning. now afternoon.

Peace

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Thanks for the update D_

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Great updates D_, would love to see Draxler at Arsenal ASAP.

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15 Jan 2014 03:03:36
A question for the Eds. Christian Benteke looked a threat this week. Last year he was over priced and I am glad we didn't buy him. He has struggled this year, but he was injured for a long time and was scoring goals before the injury. His value now has to be quite low.

My question is how much do you think Villa would sell him for and do you see any possibility that Arsenal would be looking at him.

I think he would be perfect right now if we could get him for say 10m (a price that we could probably on sell him for if he didn't work out). Transfermarkt had him at 10m a year ago.

I usually hate bargain basement buys, which has been our M.O. for the past decade, but in this case, I feel he could actually make the difference between 2nd/3rd and being premiers.

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{Ed001's Note - Villa would still want a large fee, their valuation has not changed.}

15 Jan 2014 10:13:54
Option 1: pay £35 odd million for Draxler.

Option 2: swap podolski and let's say £25 million for him.

Because I can't see wenger spending that much on someone even though we spent more on ozil, who is already world class.

And podolski didn't look happy when oxlade came on, might be nothing. But he's not had many appearances when he's fit, predominantly a super sub or back up for giroud or back up for wide players.

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15 Jan 2014 11:10:18
Option number two please!
There is no doubting Pod can finish, but my problem with him is two things.
1) With us playing a system with one main striker you need someone to hold the ball up well and work their socks off. Podolski doesn't do this.
2) Playing Pod out wide you need to be a danger going forward which he is, and do your defensive duties, which he lacks as he can be a bit of a plodder.

I think Podolski is more a victim of the system that we play. If we played 442 Podolski could be a second striker running on to balls, or if he himself worked his backside off out wide then there wouldn't be a problem and the idea of selling him wouldn't make sense, but by the looks of it Wenger doesn't fancy him. If only Giroud had Podolskis' finishing, and because of that I'd be surprised if he left this window.
Flybo

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Option number 1 for me.
Pod is a great left winger, and tracks back a lot, he and Gibbs are supporting each other a lot on the left sideline.
Wenger didn't played him against Aston Villa because he didn't want to risk an injury, if that happens he is left only with Giroud and no other cover for the striker position.
Just my opinion though

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I might be wrong here but I see pod as a striker rather than a winger. he does a good job LW but hasn't he won most of his caps as a striker? IF a proper LW is bought that would completely free him up for him and giroud to tussle it out for the strikers position. he gets goals wherever he plays but would score more up top. just my thoughts

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15 Jan 2014 08:10:54
Alright boys I'm going to put the cat amongst the pigeons here a bit. Until we landed Ozil for £42 Million we have never been the biggest spenders in the transfer market and he is reported to be on £6 million pound a year plus bonuses. There is no doubting he is a very good player we know that but we can all see that lately he is going off the boil a bit. So here is the question. If you were holding the purse strings at Arsenal and like Arsenal have done Ozil was the first time you actually tested the water in paying big money for a player would you be in a hurry to lay out that type of money again when you look at some of the players in the team that have been like rocks and cost a fraction of what he cost. Now the reason I'm saying this is because of the latest rumours again of players like Draxler etc . £40 odd million do we honestly need to be paying that.? It's not a quick fix anyone knows that look at Kos and Mert it's took a while for them to get it together people were slaughtering them two seasons ago. So I'd be interested in what you all think. By the way where's Jenny lately?

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With Ozil, we are top of the Premier, so yes I would make such signings for quality players. I fail to understand the criticism of Ozil, which is absurd. If we were to make the right signing during the current window, even at a large fee, it could make all the difference.

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He is halfway through he's first season in the PL - different culture, doesn't speak the language yet, etc, etc.

I think its a little too early to question his fee and his value to the team yet.

My 2 pence.

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Golds,

yeah mate I think I would. You have to keep up with the current trend, which is basically paying huge amounts of money for players.

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Ok fair comments everyone. That's what this is about.

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15 Jan 2014 04:22:45
There seems to be a genuine concern on the left wing. we have heard wilshere mention concerns on playing on the left, cazorla can't seem to play well at all when he's on the left and I believe AW is not able to get the best out of podolski on the left. Hence the attraction to draxler to solve this issue. Thoughts?

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Yes, we need another option of the left Reus (spelling?) would be perfect or Di Maria, if he can play on the left, as seem to recall seeing him play on the right?

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