Arsenal Banter Archive January 15 2018

 

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15 Jan 2018 22:32:42
We need a massive overhaul. by Next season we need to change manager and coach are a neccessity and most of the team. Its come to the point where a fine tune up is not sufficient . We have to change the whole make up of the club if it means we have to sacrifice this season then so be it. Put all our eggs into the europa cup and see what happens.
The only way we are going to attract big players now is crazy wages. gone are the days when players came because of wenger. they are now leaving because of him.
In my opinion cech ospina debuchy monreal merti koscienly mustafi xhaka elneny welbeck akpom sanchez giroud iwobi all have to go. Players like holding chambers willock nketiah nelson niles walcott should be squad players whilst bellerin kolasniac ramsey wilshere ozil lacazette should be starting X1.
We need to buy big and not just one or two. this is probably going to have to be 2 transfer windows. we are a shambles.
First and foremost we need to stop leaking goals. we need two solid centrebacks and a powerful holding mid. if we can get a mkhytarian aubaenyang malcolm or a mahrez that's fine but our problem is defending.

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16 Jan 2018 00:28:32
Which coach do you want to change?

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15 Jan 2018 22:18:15
Just wanted to ask is Sanchez really asking for 350k a week or is it the press just plucking out numbers? I genuinely thought he might of been a player that just wanted success but seems he just wants to fill his pockets, shame if it’s true as he is a quality player. And at those figures not surprised arsenal are allowing him to leave, no player needs that much cash and shouldn’t try and hold a club to ransom.

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{Ed002's Note - Or a lttle more.

15 Jan 2018 22:35:30
That seems crazy! And thank you for the reply Ed002 surely from an economics stand point it doesn’t make a sound investment. I know city have backed out but wouldn’t he be their highest player, Sanchez is good but not that good to be the main man at city. And surely Utd are just going to cause themselves issues sticking a player on that much cash.

Either way the whole think doesn’t sit right with me, and the other thing that doesn’t make sense is if he is that motivated by money, I personally don’t see Sanchez winning a title at UTD they will be competitive at best, so why not wait to the summer and take a huge signing on fee, why is he so eager to get out now or is it arsenal pushing him out so they get some money from their investment?

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15 Jan 2018 23:45:18
guys he's not joining anzi in russia lol. he will win stuff at utd no question. I would of gone city tho.

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15 Jan 2018 20:45:08
If we look at who we have sold: szechney, coq, Gabriel - in my opinion they are all better than who we have. Agreed?

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15 Jan 2018 20:57:02
I think some people just forget how average and if say a liability those players were for us.

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15 Jan 2018 21:19:01
Arguably we replaced those players, are the ones who replaced them with for more money, better? For me the answer is no. We are in a worse state now than when they were playing, not better.

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15 Jan 2018 22:37:38
I agree Steve. Just for me the last few weeks we've been debating players who have left week who aren't good enough. But neither are a lot of the players in our squad. It's ludicrous how we've got to the point we're debating which average player is the better one. Xhaka or coq. Gabriel or chambers. I know the fee differences come into it before you say that. But that aside none of those players are good enough. That's just on the top of my head. Sure there's more comparisons.

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15 Jan 2018 19:31:50
I hope bringing in new players helps, however if we keep playing the same way I don't who can help. Our build up play is too slow, if the opposition doesn't already have 10 behind the ball, recycling across the back line, 3 or 4 it does't matter which, gives them time to get their shape. Bellerin rarely has a wide option ahead of him, he plays inside, gets it back and then cycles across the back, ( hopefully not to Mert. ) . At this point if the opposition decides to press we are more than likely to cough up a chance. Wilshire has added some pace to the midfield, and wants to go forward with purpose, he and Giroud worked well together, hopefully he can link up with Lacazette, we need to find a way to get him more involved. I hope we can keep Ozil. Sanchez, wonderful player, much lately about him giving the ball away, he has always done this, but he used to chase and win it back. Our defensive mid, lacking, however if they a back line to defend their job might be easier.

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15 Jan 2018 20:01:23
Not much to disagree with there!

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15 Jan 2018 20:35:00
That’s why I prefer 4 at the back mate.

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15 Jan 2018 22:31:00
We need to revert back to 433/ 4231, there pretty clueless when it comes to 5 at the back don’t ya think?

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15 Jan 2018 23:02:00
Je, no, nothing to do with formation. I seem to remember a few 10 8 and 6 goals let in with a back four. We won the fa cup with a back four and a back three. I don't see it being that simple.

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15 Jan 2018 23:02:00
Je, no, nothing to do with formation. I seem to remember a few 10 8 and 6 goals let in with a back four. We won the fa cup with a back four and a back three. I don't see it being that simple.

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15 Jan 2018 23:41:18
We could play 6 at the back and it will make no difference because we don't defend as a team and therefore the defense get horribly exposed time and time again. I am sure if I said we were going to sign Jones and Smalling as our new CD, s most on here would be horrified, and yet look at their stats and they are appear miles better. However it's because Man Utd defend better as a team. It's no coincidence that Maureen signed Matic, as he knows how important that type of player is.

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16 Jan 2018 06:28:42
We don't seem to have a player in the starting 11 that knows how to tackle, everytime Xhaka goes in I almost look at the ref to see which card it will be, Jack goes in and you look towards the bench/ stretcher. Mert at 6ft 4 is not only useless on the ground but, also in the air! Koscielny is the only player I put any trust in when it comes to making a challenge anywhere near the box. To think, we have Steve Bould as an assistant yet so feckin clueless as a defensive unit!

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16 Jan 2018 09:00:15
Yeah we need to defend much better as a team and a lot is down to having no midfielders with any decent defensive mindset or intelligence to notice the dangers. The amount of times we don't track runners from midfield is shocking and this is making the back 3 or 4 look worse than it actually is. Another big wekaness is this zonal marking nonsense we insist on at defending corners nobody seems willing to go and take responsiblity and attack the ball to clear it. Everybody seems to pass the buck to somebody else. The amount of times opposing teams get free headers in our box is incredible and has to stop. You need to be hard to score againts before anything else if you want any hope of being competative at the top.

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15 Jan 2018 18:08:38
Man United not. Interested in selling us. Martial, Mkhitaryan not Sure About joking Us sanchez still could Join city very interesting week ahead Mahrez instead of Mkhitaryan and we don't need Aubameyang need a cm.

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15 Jan 2018 18:45:29
We definitely need a holding mid and defenders. But we need to replace sanchez amd more because wenger and arsenal are digging themselves onto a big hole.

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15 Jan 2018 19:12:34
auba for me is top5 striker in the world. of course other positions needed but this is arsenal. if he comes in so be it.

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15 Jan 2018 19:17:56
Steve which realist players should we be targeting in your opinion.

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15 Jan 2018 20:19:32
I think I've alluded to drax, i'd take auba, do we try carvalho, i don't know, me i'd buy a couple of center backs and try niles in xhakas place, at least give him a go. i'm more concerned about the manager.

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15 Jan 2018 20:32:15
I never rated William carvalho I'd prefer Danilo Perreira he can play Rb and defensive mid yh definitely sell xhaka he's a liability.

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15 Jan 2018 20:38:50
Regarding the CB's I don't think it matters who we sign, as the way we defend as a team and constantly expose the defense, we would turn any 60m rated defender quickly into a 20m rated defender! Someone on here recently mentioned that Gabriel Paulista was suddenly looking ok now he is at Valencia, and for me there's the rub, as most of our defenders looked decent before they joined us. Therefore if we got a decent DM who could help protect the CD, s, and actually played a LB or LWB rather than a CM in that place, and got the so called wide forwards to actually track back and support their full backs then our defense and GK might actually start to look better than we think they are.

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15 Jan 2018 20:51:39
EG I've said it before, our defending is an absolute shambles and we turn our defenders into headless chickens. It is embarrassing that the club allows this to go on year after year. Its just basic coaching nothing scientific. Constantly clearing headers straight out instead of wide, ball watching, diving in, jockeying, lack of shape and communication. Its basic! Bring back george.

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15 Jan 2018 23:29:16
Yep, a shambles it certainly is Steve. Which is why I don't see the point in wholesale changes at the back, I would rather keep what we have in Chambers and Holding and see how they could play under a different manager and set-up. Saying that though, someone should be reading Holding the riot act for heading balls straight down the middle, I know I used to do my nut with that back in the days I played in goal.

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15 Jan 2018 15:29:33
All the talk is of front players. We need a decent defence, oh and a new goalkeeper would be usefull.

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15 Jan 2018 15:51:15
And manager, and board.
Even Gunnersauras is p***ing me off lately.

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15 Jan 2018 16:28:09
Dags apparently wenger has pinpointed him as one of the problems we are not performing. Watch this space.

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15 Jan 2018 17:17:12
Still think sanchez is off to city steve!

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15 Jan 2018 17:48:42
With all the press sano, not sure. I would think if he uses his head he would go to citeh and pep. I would be astounded and upset on so many levels if he ended up with maureen. Of the two clubs citeh are more likely to win the big prizes over the next two or three years. I think to a lesser extent maureen is a younger wenger, he is getting left behind by the younger managers.

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15 Jan 2018 17:59:19
Sorry last line should have said, with maureens brand of football.

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15 Jan 2018 18:06:37
I agree with you on mour. Sanchez going to United is only going to make them stronger and that will be another team harder to catch. You can only play 11 so o would prefer city got him to be fair . But football doesn’t work like that I’m afraid.

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15 Jan 2018 18:18:43
Maureen never fully trusts youth. Rashford, martial, lingard will all suffer in some way if sanchez went. Short term thinking to what ends for the future. They aren't going to win the league this year and another full season under there belts playing would make them better next year. Sanchez could easily under maureen be a big plus but he could also be an even bigger negative. Big spend for no trophies if they don't win one. I don't see him being the final piece needed for the jigsaw. I don't at citeh either but they have moved ahead of utd.

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15 Jan 2018 19:13:46
if i'm sanchez I wait for city. but its his life I guess. and the offer for manu is crazy. hope he doesn't live to regret it di maria style.

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15 Jan 2018 14:27:44
Chambo is class, talent plus heart. should have made him captain not shipping him out to a rival like Reds. Past time we built a strong core MR WENGER!

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15 Jan 2018 15:08:06
The best thing for the ox was to get away from wenger.

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15 Jan 2018 15:43:59
It was one of those transfers that made sense to both player and club. Plus he wanted to leave don't forget that. Haven't been too overly impressed since his move it just seems everyone is now piping up about it because he scored against city.

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15 Jan 2018 15:53:32
We got £35m for him.

Good business.

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15 Jan 2018 16:08:48
Agreed Dags. Seems to be a decent deal for both sides with the way things have gone. Though I think its leaning towards a better deal for us at this rate!

On a side note: I'm not even an Arsenal fan and I want this Sanchez saga to end. IT JUST WONT GO AWAY. Keep checking this site for updates on it haha.

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15 Jan 2018 16:37:32
I feel the same will be true for Walcott, Szczesny is playing a blinder at Juve. Maybe a pattern is emerging.

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15 Jan 2018 17:43:21
We paid a fair price he’s a good player and getting Better under Klopp he needed a change and it’s worked wel for all parties, as time goes on I think it’ll be us who got the better deal. You have a few in the squad who have gone a bit stale and need a change, Walcott etc.

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15 Jan 2018 20:15:06
Does the boss count as "in the squad"? Seems to be the one that's gone a bit stale.

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15 Jan 2018 14:27:02
Wenger came across rather oddly in his post-match interview, he looked uncomfortable and not just as a result of the defeat. I have a feeling the new head of scouting and the new guy from Barcelona (who officially arrives in Feb) are running the show. We have sold Coquelin for a reasonably decent price for a failure and we have signed a young, tall defender. It looks like we have achieved an amazing £35m for Sanchez, for 4 months before he could leave on a free. Rumours that we may get a United player in exchange for Sanchez and strong rumours of P-E A and Malcolm, as well as Evans. Debuchy and Walcott may be unloaded as well. Time will tell, but I sense change, at last.

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15 Jan 2018 14:46:22
Rg there is no change until the the french lieutenant is gone.

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15 Jan 2018 15:00:10
Can i just ask you rg, was coq anymore of a failure than, bellerin, iwobi, chanbers, holding, gabriel, cambell, perez, xhaka, debauchery, jenkinson, ox and the list goes on. For me they are badly coached and badly utilised. Some may or may not have been good enough but they are all arsenal failures. What he is doing with niles is a crime.

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15 Jan 2018 15:46:20
If it is those two calling the shots I would love to know. Think that'll make us fans a bit more patient as it'll take time to rebuild. If it's arsene then we'll we're staying in rubbish creek.

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15 Jan 2018 17:39:24
Your right steve! I wouldn’t waste my money or time on players if he’s going to bring them into this festering team and risk them getting wengered. The only way out of this is to sack Wenger to make a statement, make bold plans and high profile players bought in to create a buzz. It’s a good opertunity for a manager. It’s the reverse in some way to the United loosing SAF . Any manager coming in hasn’t got that shadow anymore and it must be mouthwatering rather than daunting.

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15 Jan 2018 18:05:47
Sano, agree there certainly isn't any shadow anymore. I still can't fathom what he is doing to lacca, why is iwobi starting over walcoor welbeck, i don't understand what kol has done wrong and why isn't niles playing in xhakas place and not left back. All this is just recent stuff that doesn't make sense and isn't working.

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15 Jan 2018 12:19:26
Ed02 do you have news regarding aubameyang to Arsenal? Thanks
Will really appreciate your reply.

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{Ed002's Note - I have already answered this - he was offered to Arsenal amongst other clubs.}

15 Jan 2018 13:30:20
Any news regarding martial?

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15 Jan 2018 16:17:28
Yes, he's a man utd player.

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15 Jan 2018 00:26:56
Are there any midfielders you're hearing Arsenal linked with? Really hope so.

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{Ed002's Note - There will be a Sharkopod later in the week.}

15 Jan 2018 10:52:45
RIP Cyrille Regis.

Very decent striker.

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15 Jan 2018 11:41:36
Great player. Would love to have seen him at Arsenal with Laurie Cunningham. RIP.

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15 Jan 2018 11:44:01
Spot on dags I was gutted to hear he passed away and was a excellent forward when he started out at west brom and I still have nightmares when Coventry turned over the mighty spurs in 87 fa cup final. He done a lot for British football and will be missed.

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15 Jan 2018 09:58:58
Why Can't We Sign Emre Can 6 Months Left On His deal, good player works hard better than xhaka offer Liverpool 25mil and then go for Mahrez 50mil.

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15 Jan 2018 10:20:18
Him agreeing a pre contract with juve might be a stumbling block.

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15 Jan 2018 10:46:48
Can won't sign an extension at Liverpool and clearly fancies going to Juventus. Why would he join Arsenal, unless we pay him an extortionate signing on fee and wage packet?

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15 Jan 2018 11:10:40
We need ton try and do something also we have a few German players mite help.

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15 Jan 2018 12:13:55
Few German players that 2 of are leaving and one wants to leave though?

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15 Jan 2018 08:45:18
Hi Ed's,

I respect that you guys only work off valid information and don't work in hypothetical's, but to your knowledge, is there any chance that Wenger will leave/ be removed from his post before the end of the season or potentially in the summer?

I feel stupid for asking because he seems to be a man of his word and sticks to his contracts, and the hierarchy seem to bend over for him, but I really need some hope that we won't keep getting the same dross for another minimum of 18 months from a manager that has long gone stale.

Please give me some hope!

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{Ed001's Note - the two new guys have been brought in to transition to a new manager. Only the board will know if that is at the end of Wenger's contract or before but, if I had to give my opinion, would say that he can't continue on as things are and last past the summer.}

15 Jan 2018 08:55:51
Thanks Ed and completely agree. I don't know if it is because I watched '89' recently or if I am actually fed up, but those players back then seemed to actually want it and care about what happened.

I can't see any of the current squad pushing their own team mate against the wall before a Tottenham game and drilling into them how important the performance and result is.

I feel so disconnected with the team and club now, from such poor performances over a sustained period, the 2 or 3 games a season where we see what this could achieve if they pulled their fingers out really isn't enough. I can only blame the management and coaching staff to allow it to continue for so long.

I appreciate your response, as always. Have a good Monday.

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{Ed001's Note - isn't that why Sanchez is going? He actually expected his teammates to care and want to win, how silly must he feel? Imagine wanting your team to try and work hard for a victory. That will be why he is drifting down to finish off his career with a no-hoper while Arsenal march on to title-winning glory.......}

15 Jan 2018 09:12:08
I can't understand people wanting to see the back of him. If you were the only one in your department at work, trying and busting your arse every day, whilst people had their feet up on their desks, coming in late, taking longer lunch breaks etc, how long would you put up with it for? Would you say something to your boss?

He is a winner, and people want him to go - why? So he can win and take his effort and attitude somewhere else?

You don't know what you've got til it's gone, as the song goes.

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{Ed001's Note - it is bizarre. How many companies sack the worker who produces the best quality work and works their backside off while keeping on all the lazy gets who produce shoddy work? I really do not understand why Sanchez has become the problem rather than the rest of the team.}

15 Jan 2018 10:20:37
I agree ed. But now it’s more his situation that is unwanted. But that has been Arsenal’s fault not Sanchez .

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{Ed001's Note - spot on.}

15 Jan 2018 14:29:49
bang on eds bang on.

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15 Jan 2018 16:21:04
Ed i think its because so many arsenal fans because of their blind faith in wenger, don't know the difference between a dud and star.

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{Ed001's Note - must be something.}

15 Jan 2018 06:43:04
The team looked devoid of motivation and confidence yesterday and it's time for Wenger to go, as I have no confidence that he is the man to sort the team out, as it is his team and he is responsible for the lack of top class defenders, proper defensive modfield players and replacements for Sanchez and Ozil. The contract issues relating too Ozil, Sanchez and Wilshere have dragged on far too long and we have the same happenning to Ramsey, Walcott and Welbeck.
We need a new keeper, a couple of CB's, a DM or 2 and a replacement for Sanchez.
Aubameyang and Malcolm would be positive replacements for Sanchez and Walcott, whilst we have options to replace Ozil at the club, if we sign a couple of DM's. My own choices would 2 out of Nzonzi, Fellaini and Luiz (I would play him as a DM, not at CB) . We need a pair of CB's, perhaps Evans and another. This won't happen under Wenger and I would like to see Simeone installed as manager at the end of the season, giving Wenger the opportunity to win either the League Cup or EL and go out on a positive note. If we lose to Chelsea in the 2nd leg of the League Cup at home or fail to beat Palace, the supporters response will be shocking and it won't get any better.

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15 Jan 2018 11:46:27
I thought spurs were in crisis R. G. and you said our top players are leaving which they are not, the only players are leaving are at the sinking ship called HMS Arsenal.

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15 Jan 2018 14:34:47
Trophies raver61?
It is a time of change at Arsenal and we still have won 3 FA Cups and 3 Community Shields over the last 4 seasons. We are in the league cup semi-final, with an outside possibility of lifting the trophy.
The toot meanwhile have a manager that has won absolutely nothing, a team that has won absolutely nothing. Reports that Rose, Kane and others want to win trophies or move on and others that want proper wages,
Funny thing is that we are in a crisis, but are sitting just behind the toot, who are also outside the top four.
I love this time of year, when the toots come out the closet and tell us gooners how great they are. It makes the failure all the more delicious. 1961, yes 1961.

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15 Jan 2018 16:49:18
You are five points off spurs R. G. while spurs are 3 points of second, you are in a league cup semi final and have been dumped out of the FA cup to a championship side with no champions league football again while spurs will finish in the champions league and are still in the cup and last 16 of the champions league, you are finished R. G. and the ravers loving it.

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