Arsenal Banter Archive March 15 2013

15 Mar 2013 23:24:34
Just a quick comment on the Bayern game, I don't mean to be negative but that (let's be honest) dodgey win has hidden some major floors and we forgot about our recent poor run. Yes we defended brilliantly but unfortunatly that will probably be a one off this season.

Anyway some perfect results mean Chelsea and Spurs have crowed fixtures and tough games ahead. I can see points dropped definatly. But we need at least 8 wins from our last 10 games. Man U and maybe Swansea/Everton only exception.
I genuinley doubt we will see Wilshere again this season. Diaby might make a brief appearence. I really want to see Wenger try a 442 for the remaining games.

Fabianski
Jenkinson - Koscielny - Vermaelen - Gibbs
Cazorla - Ramsey - Arteta - Rosicky
Giroud - Podolski

Szeszecncy, Sagna, Mertersacker, Monreal, Coquelain, Ox and Walcott all available to rotate. I think Rosicky still has a lot to offer. Walcott needs to earn his place.

Also the media have really been grinding my gears. Firstly when reporting on Wilshere all they care about is he'll miss pathetic WC qualifiers, did they not think actually this might affect Arsenal too. Secondly they're questioning Szeszecncys place because he got dropped once, why try unsettle him?

On we go, 3 points this weekend. Arsenal to win 2-0 Giroud brace.

Detroit Gooner

15 Mar 2013 20:01:18
team for swansea

. fab
jenko merti kosci gibbs (monreal if injured)

. coquelin
walcott rosicky ox
. giroud podolski

subs
szecs cazorla verm arteta ramsey gervinho

the back line should be given the opportunity to play together again barring gibbs if injured. they deserve there chance after probably arsenals most committed defensive performance of the season against bayern.
coquelin should play the defensive role in midfield because arteta is getting slower and needs a rest, the same goes for cazorla and ramsey they both need a rest. walcott and ox will provide the width and pace and rosicky should be give a run while jacks away. he will chase back rather than wave his hands in the air like cazorla if he loses the ball. upfront we should make the swansea defence work put podolski and giroud upfront and make a nuisance of themselves. let's be positive and blow the spurs and chelskis out and take up a top 4 position. just show the same fight as they did against bayern and we should win all our remaining games (yes that includes utd).

COYG a rejuvenated gunner who wants to see the same committment they showed against bayern week in week out.

the papers are saying we need a clearout and I agree.
bring in a capoue sakho wanayma isco jovetic richards cesar even nasri and we will have a top quality team and squad.
take out the mannone fabi sagna squillaci djorou bendtner denilson chamakh diaby arshavin gervinho and even vermaelan and arteta just bring in players that want to give 100% and not worry about the opposition but just go out there and show us their talent and win honours.

GS

That line up would dominate wouldn't it.

15 Mar 2013 18:51:10
I don't understand all this speculation about Szczesny's dropping, will he leave this and that. Cech has made countless mistakes over the last two seasons, yet still Chelsea's no1, and united's De Gea well let's just say he's nowhere near the class of previous united keepers yet.

The problem is we are arsenal and everything we do gets negative media attention and speculation, our own manager can't make decisions for the team without the press poking their nose into our affairs, had Fergie dropped De Gea for Lindergaard would he have had all these questions speculating about De gea's future? I think not, it would have been seen as another day at the office.

Johnny

14 Mar 2013 22:30:35
if any eds can answer the reported transfer budget of 70mil will that be including player sales or would that be added on top? {Ed027's Note - a trasfer budget is usually without player sales,also we never usually have a budget, if we find players we sign them, we can be more lookse with the cash now

15 Mar 2013 15:21:17
Never thought I'd see the day where a fellow Arsenal fan accuses me of being a spud after I come on here and apologise for my absence due to a massive interview. Unbelievable. Eds, how you even let that post through is absurd. Also, people who follow up perfectly debatable sentences with 'FACT!' need to go back to school. I really haven't missed the site these last few days, I've had way more important things to focus on like my future. The fact that I took any time out of my last minute prep to watch the game would be called absurd by most people who care about their careers. Louis whateveryournumberis well done for making me realise that there are way more important things in life than the small minded jokers that post on this site. P. s. for your info the Eds will confirm that I normally post from an IP in Wales and my last post would be sited in Holloway, London, before you go on accusing me of lying.

It's been good guys. All the best. This will be my last post and I am sure that's not an issue to you small-minded one-sentence wonders. Eds, and the posters who have contributed to my enjoyment of the site, thanks so much for all your input. I'm going to now get on with my life instead of stressing over a money-grabbing joke of a football club that couldn't give a toss about you or me or any other fan for that matter, and a fan base so stuck in the dark ages it's actually embarrassing. Will always be an Arsenal fan, will never be as obsessive as I have been over the last few years, am no longer going to let something I can't change be such a source of frustration and stress as I have done. Thanks everyone for the great debate. Enjoy the site.

Metal, relax bud. You're obv an arsenal fan

Don't let people on the Internet who you'll never meet affect you so much.

We should all be here because we enjoy it

15 Mar 2013 18:09:54
Wow. this is an extreme reaction. Hope things go well with your career etc. It's a shame you won't be posting here in the future. Your thoughts might have been difficult for some, more primitive, site users to take - but I thought they added to a sense of balance that is so important on pages such as these.

Good Luck Metal Gooner!

Jayjay

Metal,

Just going to say I hope your not being serious because I actually enjoy your posts. I like coming on here and reading through the different opinions that people have and making up my own mind.

Ur posts are definitely interesting and if some people don't agree with what you have to say that should not be a problem. Ppl need to realize that there is a difference between having a discussion and having an argument, and that it is perfectly fine for people to respectfully disagree and share ideas.

You obviously have passion for the club and I hope you continue to post your thoughts and opinions.

one love yah-man

That's the thing though mate I don't enjoy it - I was hooked on this site for so long I am on here all day every day while I work from home and I just talk balls and nobody really cares anyway plus I can't change anything and nor can anyone else. Sick of people supporting Wenger it's a joke. The Bayern game proved so much - that he consistently mis-uses our squad and actually he should have more faith in the squad players who can still offer something different. Sick of the same sh!t happening every season and it never changing and people say 'but he deserves more respect' no he bloody doesn't! He is revered the world over for what he achieved YEARS ago in another age in footballing terms. How much more respect does he need? And the media were totally right to make a complete mockery of our prices and ownership set up comparing us to Bayern the other day and I applaud them for it. I am sick of supporting a guy who outright ignores the talent at his disposal, he's the most stubborn non-adaptable tw4t managing a top team and he is personally responsible for so much wasted emotion on my part. All I've ever tried to do is start conversations on here and you get d!ckheads calling me out who basically never post except to put someone else down and I just think 'seriously if we were in a pub and you wouldn't speak to me like that' and these guys support the team I love and have done for no explainable reason since I was really young, all the more miraculously as mum is a spud and I can't even rinse her a the moment. The club doesn't bring me much joy, I get far too involved, feel absolutely rotten when the team can't be arsed like f***ing WALCOTT the waste, and then I come on here and there's some gimp laying in to me under an apology. What kind of small minded tosser doesn't have the gumption to wish me good luck? If any poster on here said they'd just had a 5 hour interview I'd be the first saying to them I hope it went well. Does me posting on here change anything at AFC? No. Do people really care if I post or not? No. Does it mean anything in the overall scheme of life that I stop posting? No. Would rather ring a mate I haven't spoken to for years than write another post on here. I cba anymore mate. Enjoy the site, keep posting your heroic rants that I rarely agree with LOL and keep up the spirit. From now on if people want to call me a Spud then it'll be behind my back because I'm done, it's been near 3 years of the same sh!t different fans. I'm not visiting the page again, nobody even has worthwhile transfer news. Peace

15 Mar 2013 20:57:47
To Metal Gooner, Some of what you say really resonates with me. At times a sense frustration with the Wenger situation and a sense of frustration with those who keep making excuses for him. The fact that we got a worthless result against Bayern on Wednesday and some people are seemingly delighted by this. We needed to score 3 times yet only managed 2 meaningful attempts on goal - and one of those came too late. None of it alters the fact that we are currently in the midst of a massive slump that shows no sign of abating. Especially when people with alternative, possibly progressive, opinions get shouted down. There are some who seem to be in denial and think that Wenger should be given a life-time's honourary role as permanent manager. Delusional.
Questions need to be asked and your imput will be missed by me.

Jayjay

Wow! Quite disturbing how serious some people are on here! Could write quite a bit on this post but I can't really be asked. I've got better things to do in life!

Ill summarise though - sad and pathetic

Going to make a cuppa
Bookie

Well said Bookie, fished for drama, received drama

Oh dear metal. Didn't you do this last time?

Raz?
See you in a few weeks then.

Adam

Get a grip Metal Gooner. it's only a game.
Good luck for the future. lighten up and life will be more fun!

Chris

Seems people aren't entitled to make any comment toward you.
I was merely suggesting that we should all be positive and get behind the team, instead of berating the board or Wenger. Your posts are always loaded with negativity.
Perhaps you need a break son? All the posting seems to have got to you a bit. See you in a few weeks.

Louislookthenumbersup

15 Mar 2013 13:08:45
hey gooners great news coming out of espnfc. com:

Nicklas Bendtner "has now been linked with a move to either Anzhi Makhachkala or Zenit St Petersburg, and is also thought to be interesting Bundesliga duo Hamburg and Stuttgart. "

cheers,

So much potential yet so little application. In his own head he is the best footballer ever to pull on a pair of boots. In my own head I've got the looks of George Clooney, the sword of Errol Flynn and the suave charm of Cary Grant but my missus would beg to differ!

CECEGUaW

15 Mar 2013 18:17:52
Errol Flynn was qualified to play Robin Hood
The ladies who knew him concurred that he could
We've had many Robins - but none since have been
As good as his hood - the best that we've seen.

Jayjay

15 Mar 2013 10:42:52
seeing the usual stuff in the papers already.

Arsenal being linked with Isco at Malaga, Gameiro at PSG, Vela back from sociedad, Matri from Juventus.

Lazy journalism nothing more.

15 Mar 2013 08:57:08
Guys, I've said it time and time again here, for the past two years consistently. Szczesny is rubbish. I'm sick of people coming on here giving me abuse to the contrary. He's the worst number one we've ever had and it's absolutely a no brainer that Fabianski (himself not great) keeps the gloves. It was also great to see Vermaelen dropped and wasn't it noticible how big Per performed better without these two.
My final observation is another fairly obvious one. Arteta's been great for us in a filling in kind of way, but he's not top four quality. Good guy, ok player, but time to look at an alternative style of midfielder who can mix it up. Wanyama of Celtic's not the answer, not by a long shot, and I trust and want Wenger to get it right in the summer. We all have good times and bad times at work, and he deserves another chance. I honestly believe he's finally learnt his lesson with regards what we need.

I disagree that Chesney is our worst number one ever. He's better than Fab and Alumunia but he's not quite up to it yet. I think he needs a year or too which is why we need to sign someone like Cesar.

Agree about Arteta. Good but not great player and not quite the right type of midfielder we need either. Happy to have in the squad though but he shouldn't be a first choice.

Personally I think we signed arteta 2 or 3 years to late

Abuse?

Shez is still very young for a goalkeeper and WILL be great, to call him 'Rubbish' is abuse!

He has made a few mistakes lately but EVERY goalkeeper makes mistakes, that does not make them rubbish.

I agree with first reply, we need to sign an experienced keeper to in their twilight years to push him and that he can learn from as well.

337

We should of got friedel or lloris in hindsight. although we had the foresight to say we needed them, before they went to spurs. so. yeh. I agree. Experience required.

No doubt about his talent, but has to eradicate his cockiness i. e. taunting Cashley before losing to Birmingham.

15 Mar 2013 07:20:30
Spuds v Fulham this weekend. let's hope it's 3 defeats in a week for them! FOYS

15 Mar 2013 03:41:02
What player in their right mind would join us for a wage of 60 - 80 thousand a week, when Chelski, $hity & Manchester United are willing to offer 120 - 150 thousand a week!
Players we lost over wage negotiations in the past like Mata & Hazard, as well as some of our own (you don’t need me to mention their names).
Now thinking that the money we will be getting to spend in the summer is too little too late. Clubs and Agents will be offering players at over-inflated Prices knowing that we need to strengthen up in certain positions.
I myself like the fact that the group of players we have are gunners because they want to be, not just for what they can cream out of the club!
Join Arsenal to play for the team not just to get in the shop window and for personal gain. Yes I know money talks and every player has to look after their finances and make sure that they themselves aren’t getting ****** over!

It’s now time for a change at the club as in manager, board and some players. I love Wenger for the years he has given (when he could have walked) and what he has done for the club, but when a loyalist like me wants to see changes. It must be time!


SkaVadar

There are only a few clubs that can and do offer better wages than us, they have unhappy players like Na$ri and Dzeko sitting on their benches on 150k+ per week.

These players are going to realise that not playing football will ruin their careers and their chances of playing for their country.

I would rather play every week for AFC for 100k than sit on the bench for 3 or 4 years on 150k, then nobody will want you at all and the following 5 years you will get 20-30k per week somewhere else.

Simple maths: (approx figures)

AFC 100K per week
Citeh 150K per week

5 year deal after tax etc

AFC £ 15M
Citeh £ 22M

Following 5 years

AFC - Pay rise as you play week in week out and are an international player

Citeh - Sold to spurs and given 50k per week to be hated by the fans

Need we say more?