Arsenal Banter Archive May 15 2018

15 May 2018 22:26:52
Wenger out Arteta in thank you Wenger out fans 😩😩😩.

{Ed033's Note - You cry baby :)

16 May 2018 06:39:57
Under Wenger we were dropping down the league and failed to win a trophy last season. It was clearly time for change. I would prefer an experienced manager who has managed at the top level and won trophies, such as Allegri, Simeone or Benitez.
My concern in regard to Arteta is that he is not the fans choice and having witnessed the open anti-Wenger campaign, including the ludicrous fans that failed to turn up to watch matches despite having purchased tickets, I fear for Arteta as the fans may turn against him extremely quickly if things don't go well. Then again who would have wanted George Graham from Millwall or Arsene Wenger from Grampus 8?
If it is Areta let's get behind him. Interesting summer ahead for us Gooners.

16 May 2018 06:55:53
Agreed 61 - we need to back him if selected but doesn’t stop the concerns. Him and Santi don’t inspire me as a pair and I am concerned what the big players we want to / need to sign as well as the likes of PEA think of such a unambitious signing. This combined with our budget and poor defence is a huge concern. Wenger came in with the same attacking philosophy but probably more of a “let the players manage themselves” approach which worked as we had a solid back 5. Today we don’t and Arsene’s first season if he inherited this defence back then could be different THEN the Arsene who shouts would have been louder. It didn’t and he had immediate success and deemed a legend - the rest is history but the earlier years plus spending capabilities back then are very different to today so I fear for Arteta especially as he seems like a genuine guy and concerned for the club. Options are limited due to squad, budget and management structure plus replacing Arsene - the board needed to make a statement about budgets and ambition to lay the trap and expectations. They failed again and said they would make a BRAVE appointment. Oh that’s ok then.

{Ed001's Note - don't worry you always have Mertesacker to help them.}

16 May 2018 08:14:49
It's still only the usual unreliable suspects saying Artetta is about to happen, nothing from the Eds nothing from Ornstein nothing on the bbc main page.
Time will tell but I still think this Artetta story is a molehill being made into mount everest.

16 May 2018 11:32:35
G62 - Arteta isn't my choice, but I have a sneaky suspicion he is on his way back to us: Reports that he is Gazidis's choice. New deals for Elneny and Holding. Backroom staff moved out, whilst Bould asked to stay on. Reports of offers for players. These seem odd if a new manager hasn't been agreed.

16 May 2018 11:33:37
that might be because the structural and personnel changes have left our once reliable sources, sourceless themselves. lol.
I believe they might have information but since its not coming from people they use to work before they are sceptical and are afraid of sticking their neck out.
Nevertheless we will know our new manager before Monday.

16 May 2018 14:51:40
And you think Arteta will do better he’s just a yes man, someone who won’t award back, i for one will be fuming if we get Arteta, plane and banners at the ready.

16 May 2018 17:29:07
How do we know Artetta is a yes man?
We know nothing about Artetta the manager and niether does anyone else.
Calling him a yes man at this stage is like saying Addles next album isn't as good as the last one before she's even written or recoded it.
I don't want Artetta but I can't say he's good bad or indifferent as a manager yet.

15 May 2018 21:28:18
You have to wonder about the arsenal hierarchy, They have just lost Wenger who hasn't really cared about the defensive side of things for about ten years.

If the Arteta rumours are true an offensive midfeilder in his day who was asked to play Dm for arsenal to mixed results at best, who has learned from Guardiola hardly known as a defensively minded coach and who spends very liberally.

Wenger to his credit (or the back room guys) have left the club with a very good attack but as week at the back as i can remember. With a limited transfer budget shouldn't arsenal be looking for someone with a bit more experiance with setting up a defence. Get the defence sorted and this team might suprise next year. Ancelotti would be the man until Viera or Arteta have proven themselves.

15 May 2018 21:38:59
You would like to think so. It seems logical to most.

15 May 2018 19:16:48
At this rate, I want Wenger back.

15 May 2018 19:18:11
Arteta and Santi then

Dream team.

15 May 2018 19:25:57
Was it ed025 who said careful what you wish for when the Wenger out brigade were in full swing. 😂😂

Not saying I didn’t think it was time for him to leave but it’s turned into panic stations on here already. 😉😂.

{Ed025's Note - he will be tough act to follow stoner, and the microwave supporters of today demand instant success...good luck with that mate..

15 May 2018 19:58:39
22 years and 6th place? 14 years without a challenge, As far as microwaves go that's a pretty good impression of cooking by candle Ed025 mate :-)

{Ed025's Note - and 20 consecutive top 4 finishes, 3 league titles, lots of FA cups and the invincibles...spoilt rotten if you ask me mate..

15 May 2018 21:17:38
I wasn’t referring to you by the way Dags and he will be ed and sadly it was his time but we just have to wait and see who comes in. 😁

You be happy with Silva ed025.

15 May 2018 21:17:50
It's not about careful what you wish for we are a big club. Now I'm not a Stan fan and in pro usmanov the next appointment could get really nasty. Arteta imo ends in tears. Offer allegri the wages and kitty he comes simple.

15 May 2018 21:20:41
Could this be a cunning ploy by Arsene and the club?
Arsene gives everyone what they want and leaves but the club can't find a suitable replacement so Arsene comes back to save the day armed with a new 10 year contract:-)
I've heard worse rumours and theories over the last week :-)

15 May 2018 22:01:05
I like your thinking 62 and now you’ve put that out there I’m wondering how short the odds of that happening would be.

15 May 2018 20:19:54
Been brilliant Ed025 mate no question but in the end we were getting further and further away not closer and right at the start of last season we and you both agreed 5th to 7th was the best Arsenal could hope for due to all the glaring weaknesses Arsene hadn't addressed during the summer.
We were pretty awful last season mate we all know that.

{Ed025's Note - im not saying he should have stayed G62 in fact i think he stayed a season too long myself, i was just not happy about some of the disrespectful things that were said about the guy because what he has done for arsenal has been nothing short of amazing mate..

15 May 2018 20:55:14
Probably right ED.

15 May 2018 21:04:03
Ed25 things come to an end, the wenger era like all the other eras have done their time. The new dawm may or may not be as good, it may be better but the only thing you can do is try to get better. I won't ever look back for comparisons, what hapens today and tomorrow is about just that, today and tomorrow. The history books are the history books. Everyone whoever you are should look forward. You don't look back. what's gone is gone and the future should be a new better dawn. that's the plan anyway. Lol.

{Ed025's Note - i agree steve and a new era begins, what i will say is that a club is defined by their history and arsene will always be a shining light in that history even though he should have gone at least a year earlier mate..

15 May 2018 17:24:29
As far as i am concerned. If arteta is gazidis's choice and we, god forbid, end up with him. Then gazidis should be 100% accountable and i mean that both ways. If he is a success, then give the guy a statue, if he is a failure, then he should be sent packing for making yet another awful footballing decision. Since the owners of this club and gazidis have been in power, the footballing side has been a slow decline to the point we find ourselves in today. On the precipice of dropping out of the elite club club. I do fear we are heading into the realms of the kronk sporting dynasty. Total mediocrity. Then again i could be completely wrong. It just doesn't smell very good.

15 May 2018 17:49:18
Steve it would be the nail in the coffin. Going into a new season that was promising or should have been will be decimated in an instant! And then that will be followed by another disappointing summer window. Hopefully they ain’t that daft!

15 May 2018 17:55:42
Steve I hope we don’t get Arteta as our couch unless he is under Benitez or angeloti.
I feel he should have come in under wenger as bouldy was shocking.
Sky reporting we are after Seri (nice)
I like a manager to have imput on our buys, not told well their they are play them.

15 May 2018 19:10:06
We have a massive chance to reboot our great club. I just hope that all we are reading is mot quite as it seems. Ancelott or benitez or others with arteta as number 2 if we are serious would be fantastic for him to cut his teeth. I don't have a problem with arteta at this club but he can't come here and practice on his own, its just too big.

15 May 2018 21:04:14
Couldn’t agree more Steve.

15 May 2018 21:06:57
A question to people, if pep left this summer, do you think arteta would replace him. For me, not likely at all, they wouldn't trust him.

15 May 2018 16:39:17
It might seem like out of the blue but I do think Allegri will be the new coach. Juve have got options and they can afford to let Allegri go if Arsenal do really want him.

15 May 2018 17:02:07
Poblem is are arsenal willing to go for his demands for success.

15 May 2018 17:22:22
All we know for sure is the club brought in the Sven men for a reason and the most obvious reason seems to make us better on the field by bringing in better players and to me that's the club showing ambition to improve our performances in order to improve our results.

15 May 2018 17:25:57
Sausage fingers "problem"

15 May 2018 14:57:26
In one paper petr cech says "arsenal could become an hire em fire em club if they are not careful with their next manager" in another "we have the squad to win the league" I wonder what's been/ is going on then pete. Things are changing at our club, does he think we are the new chelski.

15 May 2018 16:09:23
A squad good enough to win the league?
Sounds like Pete is throwing his hat in the ring for a 3 year deal as manager get sacked by new year and big pay off.
That's the only thing that makes sense of his comments.

15 May 2018 17:14:25
Mind he also said " the new manager will have to come in and succeed very quickly" he got that one right. And was that a dig at the men in the frame, or seemingly man.

15 May 2018 10:10:49
G1308 you spot on in your assessment of people who support other club are asking us not to get is simply cause they know he is the next greatest thing this world has seen. why do I saw so? because of his always looking to add into his well resource tactical nous. In as much as AllegrI might (note might there is no guarantees) bring us silverware within 2yrs but I would rather have the expansive explosive attractive football NAGGLESMANN has to offer.
We only have to look at the innovations he has brought into small club small resource like Hoff. and imagine what he will do at Arsenal which have far superior players than what he has been working with. He knows his onions and is not soft coach. He will get Arsenal into World Dominance if given time. And believe me time is what have. We are already out of the lime light so another 5th or 6th next year shouldn't kill us but by then he would have put on ground his structure for guaranteed success. his ideology would have been bedded in the team and training appreciated.
We missed out on Pep and the Kopp, if we miss NAGGLESMANN we will forever regret it.

15 May 2018 10:33:44
Exactly that! Arsenal need to make the position as appealing as possible and if that means adding another 0 to the blokes salary and his transfer budget then why not? Who knows, Arteta might be the next 22 years of Arsenal Football Club so he can take over when he's 52! Haha!

15 May 2018 11:41:01
Nagelsmann is staying at hoffenheim. Their director came out and said so.

15 May 2018 07:22:37
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 15th May 2018