Arsenal Banter Archive October 15 2015

15 Oct 2015 13:52:00
great to have full squad, bar the usual suspects to face watford. Im going 3 v 0 walcott, ramsey giroud. Thats if we turn up with the right frame of mind, look at my national side ireland v germany. Watford will be tough to break downcan see sanchez on the bench and only used if we need him. Because he only scores when he wants 2. Scores when he wants to. Predition if he plays 5 v 0, get on.

15 Oct 2015 14:00:51
Wneger should not dare to put Sanchez on the bench. He is my fantasy team captain 😬🙅

15 Oct 2015 09:32:36
Price of a Season Ticket. Bayern £104. 48. Barcelona £73. 38 (£130 membership fee required). Arsenal £1, 014. Stoke £294 (cheapest in Prem). Reading £135 (Cheapest in Championship). Bradford £149 (Cheapest in League One). Leyton Orient £180 (Cheapest in League Two). Borehamwood and Eastleigh, in National League, just under £200 each. Rip off?

{Ed025's Note - your dead right it is dags..

15 Oct 2015 09:57:46
Hoping the TV injection of £5. 1billion will reduce the price of season tickets, but I won't hold my breath Ed.

{Ed001's Note - please do hold it dags, just as a test of course....}

15 Oct 2015 10:08:07
Doing it now Ed,

This could be my last post ever, lol.

{Ed025's Note - your just trying to cheer us all up dags.. :)

15 Oct 2015 10:26:23
In relation to an Arsenal season ticket is it not more to do with the tens of thousands sat on a waiting list to buy a season ticket. So even with all the money coming from TV there will not be much incentive for the club to reduce that excessive figure. I could be wrong but supply and demand is to me what keeps the price so high. Add to that if the club did say drop the price to, for example, £500 quid, how much longer would that list be and thus how much longer would a fan have to wait to get one.

15 Oct 2015 10:28:39
6 minutes Ed. But paramedic said its best if I don't try it again :-)

{Ed025's Note - i dont want to sound like a doubting thomas dags...but i cant see you staying quiet for even 6 seconds mate.. :)

15 Oct 2015 11:21:24
Arsenal football club is a very profitable money making business first and success on the pitch has been and will continue to be a nice bonus rather than a priority. Its supply and demand and while the demand is there the club will continue to milk the fans for all they can get. I'm not sure that was the intention behind building the stadium in the first place but the emphasis has shifted from football to finance in terms of measuring success, that's where we are and will remain until either the stadium is no longer full each week or someone in a high position at the club refuses to play ball ie Arsene's successor or aa prominent board member.

15 Oct 2015 13:33:28
Absolutely agree G62

Arrival of kroenke shifted the balance away from a desire for sporting achievement within budget to one of business performance with a much lower level of sporting achievement required

It's going to stay like that until the sporting achievement level is so low the glory hunting element (all big prem clubs have these) have drifted off to something that satisfies their greed for glory leaving an empty season ticket waiting list and the club struggling to fill the ground

That's going to take years

Other trigger for change could be when kroenke gets an offer that he cannot refuse on a business investment level. Even then it's dependant on the new owners motivation and whether he's in it for business or sporting reasons

For me the sooner kroenke goes the better

I wouldn't mind paying what I do for just competing for the EPL and CL every season rather than thinking 4th place and a little time in Europe

West Ham are dropping their prices next year so there's no reason why we shouldn't be able to do the same and still be well off apart from kroenkes attitude

{Ed007's Note - I mentioned this the other week on here about season ticket prices and the treatment of football fans in general. Arsenal and a lot of EPL clubs don't see you as fans or supporters, they see you as mere customers, look at ticket prices, games shifted for TV with no concern for travelling fans etc.
English stadiums are filled with glory hunters, day-trippers and half 'n half scarf wearing tourists and that's who the club target because they will spend more money in the club shop and eating than most of the hardcore season ticket holders that have been going to the games for years and spend the same money on the same food every week - club's want their stadiums to be more like a theme park than a football stadium with crowds of excited families all running around taking selfies and spending money.
Considering the TV money that the English game has coming into it it's disgusting that none of the benefits have been passed onto the supporters.}

15 Oct 2015 14:29:59
I'm not sure if it was always the plan or was a very fortunate by product for the money men but the whole of Arsenal football club from board to manager to the majority of fans have all become like accountants from leaving Highbury to today where if Messi expressed his love and wanted to join us the most popular thread onnthis page would be how much fee/wages and could we afford it, on the Liverpool utd Chelsea city pages all talk would be full of excitement about signing one of the two best players in the world and it would probably be 3 or 4 days before anyone even asked about his wages. That to me says so much about why we're not as competive on the field as we should be, mourinho is a bitter and twisted man no question but he was right about Arsene not being under any pressure to achieve from ower chairman or the majority of the fans as long as the money keeps coming in.

15 Oct 2015 15:56:00
Just read that Bayern supporters will stage a five minute protest before our game with them. I think it's more of a general protest aimed at ticket prices throughout Europe at prices imposed on supporters from every league. Although it will bring awareness I don't think the governing bodies are going to change or consider this issue which is a sad indictment of the way that football has gone from the working mans sport to a shareholders franchise.

{Ed002's Note - It is not a protest at "general ticket prices throughout Europe" but at Arsenal ticket prices.

If you want a "working man's sport" you need to don your cloth cap, have a pint of wallop with your chums before taking your rattle and going off to the local match, maybe one of the sides from the suburbs, Hanwell Corinthians perhaps, will have some nice cheap tickets and you can watch them?

The world has moved on.}

15 Oct 2015 16:53:54
Ed007,
You are 100% correct. Ed002,
So are you. Ed025,
You are correct too. About 6 seconds is right :-)

{Ed002's Note - The prices will not be reduced - that won't be happening in England any time soon.}

15 Oct 2015 17:17:29
I think West Ham have Ed, but that probably has more to do with the move to a bigger capacity stadia than the TV deal. But, I agree wholeheartedly with you. A price freeze is the best we could hope for.

{Ed002's Note - Personally I would increase prices and expand corporate hospitality. There are two many shaven-headed, lager-swilling, pot-bellied, tattooed knuckle-dragging oafs attending games (I think you refer to them as supporters) that should be driven out.}

15 Oct 2015 17:59:32
If those knuckle dragging wllaop drinking unsavoury sorts lose interest there is no football, Sky and advertising sponsorship everything depends on the working masses to be interested to make it profitable for them. The prawn sandwich brigades won't fund footballs future that's for sure and I doubt their kids will produce the next generation of players either, its a working mans sport and wetther its gate or TV money it will disappear with him if and when he turns his back on the game.

{Ed002's Note - The PSG (as we call them now) are The People Who Are - they change every few weeks. Once there has been a summer ball or coming out party we will move on and the next batch will be there to replace us. Nothing to do with kids - we only care for a few weeks at a time.}

15 Oct 2015 18:00:34
Ed002, I wasn't complaining about it. Yes the world has moved on and sports revenue will more than likely increase due to demand, but in a way I feel sorry for the fans who can't afford to watch and experience their favourite team at a game. With the money coming into the premier league now surely clubs can find a balance?

{Ed002's Note - I know, but you are what I consider a soft fan since the Arsenal folks on hear became the prepubescent Liverpool supporters and demanded "Wenger Out" - until the following week when this was again the greatest team in the world. All credibility has gone and you are all easy to toy with - or my "bitches" as I like to think of you.}

15 Oct 2015 20:39:35
Ed, that's not a nice way to describe dags, for sure he is not oaf!

{Ed002's Note - Apologies for missing the "l" off.}

15 Oct 2015 23:45:15
Lol, thanks Red :-)