Arsenal Banter Archive August 16 2015

16 Aug 2015 18:24:16
Today was the first time Le Coq has looked out of place since becoming our DM, against Chelsea city utd he's looked composed and reliable but today like many others he just tried way too hard.
Sanchez Caz and Aaron all rushed shots they would normally take that extra second to place, Thierry Henry just said when talking about Aguero " when you have the ball in their box you shouldn't panic the defending team should be the ones doing the panicking "
We just need to get our mentality right and we will definitely challenge, against west Ham we we're way too relaxed and today way too uptight if we can get the balance right we will be fine IMO

16 Aug 2015 21:39:59
He's still young and learning his trade.

He will have more good days than bad but he has to learn to stay disciplined and protect the defence.

16 Aug 2015 22:01:20
Kind of agree, it all seems to click in to place naturally with a few wins, then momentum builds confidence and everyone relaxes.
We must beat Liverpool though, big game.

17 Aug 2015 00:09:17
Yer he lost his head lucky to be subed of and not sent

16 Aug 2015 18:24:01
At this stage of the season, forget performances and players marks out of 10, results count.

They still need another 3 or 4 games to get fitness levels up, that's all that counts.

Look at Chelsea. 2 games, scored 2 conceded 5 and 1 point.

Fantastic win today. Palace are one of the most improved teams in 2015.

Not many teams will take 3 points from them in their own back yard.

16 Aug 2015 19:12:41
3pts at Palace is always a big ask and second game in even bigger, I wouldn't have been gutted with a point so absolutely delighted with 3pts

16 Aug 2015 19:24:29
Must add also, John Terry looks an old man all of a sudden.

17 Aug 2015 13:53:42
DAGS

Palace had one of the worst home records last season mate, i'm afraid I disagree, their home form wasnt good

16 Aug 2015 16:57:58
I thought we played very well and we have an amazing offensive team. We just aren't good enough defensively. My heart was pounding the whole game. I am not sure where it needs to be fixed the outside backs are good, koscelny great I am guessing le coq (who played very well last season) and mert need to be upgraded or challenged . We just don't defend well as a team. Thoughts?

16 Aug 2015 17:38:58
Outside backs? Are arsenal now an American football team

16 Aug 2015 18:03:45
Lol Browgun,

I think Darren is from Tampa, hence the name.

Although, it could be worse if he put an 'X' at the end :-)

16 Aug 2015 18:05:16
Huh? There are no outside backs in American football good effort though.

16 Aug 2015 18:05:18
I agree Darren, Coq drifted so far forward to day and was lucky not to be sent off, making stupid (but important) challenges when he got turned and caught out of position.. His job is to sit in front of the back four, not stream forward when we are attacking.. There seemed to be very little discipline today as a defensive unit, instead of playing the simple ball we tried the most outrageous flicks that put the pressure back on.

Ramsey for me seems to think he is untouchable, some of the flicks and passes he tried to play where sheer madness, like the flick volley he tried, why do it.. Play like that when we are 2,3,4-0 up not 1-1 away to a good palace team.

Going forward we looked good, once Sanchez is firing on all cylinders he will finish the chances he wasted today. great win and a very important 3 points but we need to shape up fast and iron out these problems

16 Aug 2015 19:18:31
To be fair I don't know anything about American football . God awful game imo. I don't even know why it's called football it should be called soft arse rugbyball with headgear. But outside backs must be baseball or that bounce ball net ball oh yeah basketball. Why is it call basketball ball where's the basket? Unless it's a reference to the net. I wouldn't like a basket where everything you put in it falls out. Glad we have football where you actually use your feet and never your hands. Unless your the goalie of course

17 Aug 2015 02:21:56
Well I played for 25 years including several reserve games for arsenal when George Armstrong was the manager. That is what they used to call them when I played. Was sent to Barnett pretty quickly lol. What are they called these days the defenders who play on the outside. Please enlighten brown gun since you know so much.

17 Aug 2015 09:36:29
Just messing Tampa . It's hard to translate sarcasm in posts. I played for 20 years and was always left back lol

17 Aug 2015 09:48:58
The english ignorance when discussing American Football is always disappointing. Always with the weird rugby comparisons.

17 Aug 2015 10:16:10
Just messing Rosie . It usually gets a bite. That's all. Good start for united. happy?

17 Aug 2015 10:28:02
I'll always bite on the American Football hooks, I'm a big fan of the sport!

Personally I'm pleased with our start. Being solid at the back is so important in this league and with the midfield signings this year we aren't hanging the defence out to dry. Particularly pleased with Shaw and Darmian.

Obviously going forward we have started poorly, Memphis is doing some good things but I won't be putting too much expectation on his shoulders just yet. Rooney doesn't suit the role he is being asked to play and I hope there are plans to sign a no.9 to at least compete with him. Currently he is playing like someone who knows his place in the team is assured no matter what.

How you feeling about your start? Good 3pts for you yesterday.

17 Aug 2015 11:27:23
6 points from 2 games is a good start. Watched darmien last year good player. I always feel Rooney is better playing off a main striker as he likes to be involved. If he's up top on his own and doesn't get the service he disappears . Yeah the palace game was tougher than people imagined . It's important with us to get a few wins or we always look shakey. A good win against scousers next will put us in good stead. We still need a striker and competition for le coq. And then happy days

16 Aug 2015 13:12:19
Ed's, is there any news on potential holding midfield targets. In my opinion, we don't struggle to score goals and get them from all over the pitch but need more than coq in that role.

Thanks alot

{Ed002's Note - See numerous previous answers.)

16 Aug 2015 15:26:56
A rather fortunate day at the office but hey ho were off and running :-)
Forget getting a striker we desperately need a good shrink, 80% physically there but only 30% mentally.

16 Aug 2015 16:02:52
That's a bit harsh. Thought it was a decent performance. Played some cracking stuff in spells and dug in at the end.

16 Aug 2015 16:50:02
Fair comment Ubi but to me we looked stage struck after last week and a team that was trying way too hard to prove themselves to themselves.
We just need to relax a bit more say what's done is done and play more naturally. Lots and lots of snap shots straight into opponents rather than that little bit of composure which is there when your confidence is high.

16 Aug 2015 14:26:51
We are better than last week but still look like a team a good two weeks from being ready for the season to start, strange after what seemed a decent pre season, need to calm down stop the desperation and stop treating the ball like a hot potato, much more composer needed.
Palace have been very good and might yet get better in the 2nd half.

16 Aug 2015 13:47:32
To be fair, Benzema wouldn't have scored that..

16 Aug 2015 15:17:56
Ridiculous comment

16 Aug 2015 15:20:59
Charlie Austin would have

16 Aug 2015 15:40:36
One of benzemas best goals was similar but a whole lot better

16 Aug 2015 17:06:49
So Olly scores by his standard a pretty ave goal that is just like one of Benzema besst! :-) just a joke Brow :-)

16 Aug 2015 13:54:04
Another assist for Ozil and a great finish from Giroud.

Looking like we are reacting to our first game

16 Aug 2015 13:01:49
Too many square pegs in round holes! Ramsey is nowhere near as effective out wide. Why drop ox? Why panic and play Sanchez when on the evidence of his brief appearance last week he is at least one more week away...
When fully fit coq plays alongside cazorla, Ramsey or wilshere.ozil plays in hole, NOT wide. IMO Sanchez and ox play wide and giroud/Walcott is a 50/50 shot.
In short, today's team worries me..

16 Aug 2015 12:46:07
Just seen the team sheet.

Dropping Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, who's been our best player in both the Community shield and last weeks display, seems a bit mad to me.

Especially as it's because Arsene's trying to shoe horn Ramsey and Santi into the same team.

At the end of the day, Cazorla is better than Ramsey at the moment.
But only when played centrally.
He got dropped from his favoured No10 role, for Özil and adapted brilliantly to the deeper role, forming a superb and shock partnership with Coquelin.

Ramsey hasn't been the player of 2013/14 recently, but he's still a cracking player, just currently, Cazorla is better.

If you stick Ramsey out on the right or Santi on the left, they just don't have the influence they do when central.
Especially in Ramsey's case.

If we're being realistic, we need to drop Ramsey for a while and play Ox and Alexis on the wings, give us some real width.
Even though Alexis cuts in, he gives us more width than Santi would out wide on the left and as for Ramsey, he doesn't offer much wide at all, he's not that quick and he's just better when he's got direct running from the Middle.

Unless we drop Özil (which won't happen) we can only afford to play one of Santi and Ramsey at the moment and it should be Santi.

Wenger's loyalty and stubbornness when sticking with players, can cost us more often than not (I'm not jumping on 'Wenger Out' at all, just making a point) sometimes you need to be a bit ruthless.

That all said, we could batter them 6-0 with Santi and Ramsey hat tricks and Its down to Arsene's genius and I'll look a right tool.

Maybe that's why I'm not the Arsenal boss....

16 Aug 2015 12:40:05
So the ox becomes the fall guy for last weeks defeat, why on earth is he left out. Wenger can't break the bermuda triangle that is ramsay cazorla ozil. Oh well at least the legend is back.

16 Aug 2015 12:26:26
Eds why ain't you putting my replies on peoples post sorry if I put a swear word in

{Ed001's Note - because you just made a bunch of personal attacks on other posters. That is not what the site is for. Just because they disagree with you does not mean you have the right to tell them to go and support someone else.}

16 Aug 2015 15:46:53
Ok mate my apologies for that

{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, they were just deleted as I realise it was just frustration, rather than you being blocked.}

16 Aug 2015 15:47:16
Didn't mean it to sound like an attack

{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, they are gone and it is forgotten.}

16 Aug 2015 11:11:17
Tough game at Palace today. We really need a result and a proper performance from the team. All the talk from the players about being serious challangers for the title, well they need to step up to the mark, starting today. No more excuses, Ozil at his best is unreal, at his worst is a liability. One good performance every now and again is not good enough, same goes for Giroud, Walcott and a few others. Wenger says he expects a reaction after the West Ham defeat, we the fans demand one.

16 Aug 2015 09:40:44
Just 2 weeks left lads.
I seriously reckon wenger must go. I mean common, we clearly don't have the required depth in DM and striker positions.
Why isn't he even trying to put a bid in?
Kondogbia
Krychowiak
Schneiderlin
Vidal
They all would've got into our team BUT NO, Mr wenger thinks they are not good enough to play for our team and would rather keep flamini and arteta.
Personally we should've got gustavo in 2013.
We had agreed a deal with bayern for 14 million, Wolfsburg came, offered 19 and BOOm they had a deal.
Why can't he sign the players he wants quickly?!.
It isn't his money.
Had we offered 55 million for Suarez in 2013 instead of buying Ozil and next summer bought back fabregas instead of Sanchez we could've won Atleast one title in the past two years!.
Imagine Suarez in 2013
Fabregas in 2014
I'm still happy with Ozil and Sanchez but I think Suarez and fabregas would've taken us to the next level.

16 Aug 2015 10:20:48
Welcome to 2015 Shri, mate we all know we've missed soooo many chances to put wrongs right over the years and weaknesses have gone unaddressed season after season but right now we are at our strongest for a very long time.
Not you me or anyone else knows if Theo down the middle works given an extended run there, we all have opinions on it but until its tried and failed or succeeded NOBODY KNOWS.
We have not ignored repeated failings this season and we have signed a very top keeper for the first time in over a decade so just give the team a chance and then if your right and we are 4th place champions again feel free to remind us all of your fantastic knowledge but until then its all just opinions yours mine and everyone else's.
I would welcome additions but am not unhappy as we are and should we fail to mount a real proper challenge this season will put my hands up and say I was wrong, but until then Com'on the Arsenal.

16 Aug 2015 10:46:05
Ridiculous to suggest that we should have bought fabregas over Sanchez . Please don't ever say that out aloud again. Suarez and Sanchez yes. We would still have had cazorla and Ramsey

16 Aug 2015 12:03:33
Arsenal have probably the most racially diverse fan base in the world which is something we're all quite rightly very proud of and is an excellent reason we should never sign Sanchez.

16 Aug 2015 12:35:21
I was referring to a midfielder and a striker Bowngun.
Ozil fabregas
Sanchez Suarez
I would've picked Suarez and fabregas any day!.

16 Aug 2015 15:47:29
Sanchez isn't a striker. If he was we wouldn't be in the dilemma we are in and could have a whole host of wingers we could then sign with strikers been thin on the ground.

16 Aug 2015 15:48:55
All the big European clubs have a diverse fan club. Don't really understand what that has to do with the price of bacon