Arsenal Banter Archive July 16 2016

16 Jul 2016 21:25:00
We need a complete overhaul
If this really is arsenes final season you think he'd bust a guy to do that
We need to sell one of our keepers (not loan)
Sell debuchy
Poss Gibbs too
Chambers was a waste of money I'd have Jenks as back up r b
Meet and Gabriel sell one keep other as back up
Walcott and the ox need to be moved on same with deadwood like sano go kapok etc just not good enough

We need a young left back chip well or cress well or that guy from Celtic maybe?
A new cb maybe two if huge offer for kos is real he is 30 now so on the slope
We need a cf a cb and a winger that's it simples why arsene can't see that I don't know.

16 Jul 2016 23:38:23
If we get Huguain (please) and Giroud goes the other way, we might have to keep Theo as a back up striker.

16 Jul 2016 23:55:48
Either way theo will be back up, i would rather it be to higuain. Id rather it be aubamayang but higuain will do.

16 Jul 2016 11:19:30
Looking at the other clubs in the PL, City have Aguero, Utd Zlatan, Chelsea Costa, Liverpool Sturridge, Spurs Kane, Everton Lukaku, even Leicester have Vardy. If Wenger does not sign a 20 goal a season striker we are not going get anywhere in the league or UCL. I'm very despondent, we suck in transfer windows.

16 Jul 2016 11:56:11
We should pay what it takes to get a lewandowski or Higuain type signing to regenerate some interest in Arsenal football club, that way not just the rest of football but our own fans and players might start taking the club seriously again.
Some will say we can't afford to make such a signing I don't think we can afford not too personally.

16 Jul 2016 12:22:51
Gunner you are so right. Wenger doesn't see that. As you say its an entertainment sport, wetting your appitite and stirring the senses. Safe safe safe, let's have a couple of exiting ins and outs for gods sake at least. We need some big changes.

16 Jul 2016 14:01:01
I personally can't understand our system for transfers.
It's ok to say x player isn't interested or y player wants too much money, but Arsenal are (or in some opinions were) a big big club, with dozens of scouts working around the world.
Couple that with 3 or 4 people, gaffer included working on deals and a (reported) wealth of cash, we should be having more than 2 targets for a position.

Now, i fully understand not signing a player just for the sake of signing him, it's a waste of money and takes up a squad place and I can understand not wanting to sign players who aren't as good/ better than your current crop.
But let's be honest, for strikers, I mean actual out and out strikers, we have Giroud (probably miss 2-3 weeks of the season) Welbeck (miss most of the season) Akpom (very average for hull, not to say he won't improve but shouldn't be in the first team yet) and Sanogo (please god no) .
Are you telling me with all those behind the scenes people at the club, they can't find a player who's an improvement at a reasonable fee?
Even if Giroud has to remain first choice, we can't find a quality back up?
Right now, we don't have the firepower to finish 4th this season let alone win the league.

Same goes for Centre back.
We have Koscielny who's top class, in my opinion, the best centre back in the league on his day.
But you're telling me, that once again, we can't improve on Mertesacker and Gabriel?
Don't get me wrong, I like Per, he's a leader and a generally decent seeming lad, but still, Utd splashed £40m on a CB who's young and unproven, with the likes of Musacchio, Garay, Murillo, etc all reported to be likely to move, we can't go in for one?

I'm not pretending I have the slightest knowledge of how transfers really work outside the media perception or that I can guarantee x player is better than who we currently have, but if anyone at the club can say there's nobody out there who can improve our team, they're either stubborn, stupid or arrogant.

I also agree completely with what you're saying G62, not even necessarily Higauin either, it'd be nice to just see Arsene go and slap down some big dollar for a marquee signing, show players there's ambition still at this club, because right now, it's becoming a place where players and the manager can amble along at their own pace doing what they want and picking up their pay cheque.

It's infuriating even more so, because at the end of last season when people were becoming more and more angry with Arsene, he seemed genuinely hurt and upset, I honestly thought that would spur him to change a little, and when we threw a large fee at Granit I thought it had, but shows what I know.

All through I've been saying there's still a month of window left and to stay positive, but combining what the ed's say and a large lack of 'reliable' rumours, it's becoming harder to believe the club will take the right action and move us in a positive way.

Instead I have an image of Arsene and co in the meeting room trying to see if Lyon will lower the demand of £43m for Lacazette to £15m, Debuchy, 2 packs of dick law's lunchtime wotsits and a signed Arsene long zip coat.

The joys!

16 Jul 2016 15:20:03
If we don't want to or can't afford the ridiculous money being thrown around I do wish we'd sign a cf who isn't completely the finished product but is showing some promise. Not like the Japanese lad someone banging in a few goals for their league just to give us another option. I know we need the ready made product but if that's not happening just another option we can turn too. Because Theo Alexis and obv sanogo do not seem to cut it as a cf.

16 Jul 2016 15:37:13
Honestly i'm not even holding out for o e of the big name strikers that have been mentioned anymore.

Imo the most important thing is we get a player with opposite attributes to giroud. We create bags of chance if we had someone woth pace who gets in behind its going to improve our chances in games that don't suit giroud.

Look at the difference welbeck made when he came back and let's be honest we was never much of a central player.

16 Jul 2016 17:55:59
I think D actually said more along the lines of what I was rambling on about. For me I can understand if that world class striker we need is out of range. Let's be Honest all world class ones are at big clubs or not affordable. However surely we can find a good suitable back up to compete with giroud.

16 Jul 2016 19:18:56
Of course there is always the option that Wenger has been working on a wonder formation that we haven't thought of?

16 Jul 2016 21:10:40
I assume if we invest 80m in a CF, you will be happy with no CD and limited investment in the winter window?
I thought you old skool guys were from the GG era - clean sheet can't be beat. If so, why not invest in the defence?

16 Jul 2016 22:14:06
Sy4 central defence and striker need addressing. World class in both are needed, that might cost us 140 mil or so but that's the going rates today, i'm afraid how ever huge and disgusting those amounts sound. It is a multi million pound sport with huge amounts of money flying around.

16 Jul 2016 22:29:38
Agreed - that's where 1000% of our ficus must be but we may only have 100m to spend in total (Max) based on our accounts and investment analysis. We can only spend what we can.
45m striker
20m CD
35m Mahrez

Sell Joel and Ox to help fund above.

16 Jul 2016 22:50:19
I don't think we have that in total but i do think some players may leave and i do think one of our stars could too, to balance it all out. Just my opinion.

16 Jul 2016 10:20:27
Morning eds,
Any positive news in the transfer market for us gooners?

This page is constantly on a downer, it used to be buzzing with fun, positivity, jokes, accurate and great info
Now it's purely negative posts maybe 1 in 10 is positive, a minority have driven away the person who supplies the best info (AGAIN)

Everyone has there own opinions on things and ofcourse i'm not saying you can't have that. but does it always have to be so negative lol.

Stop the negativity.
Bring back positivity

Bring on the first game of the season
Bring the fight!

Can't wait to get started

Sorry for the rant :)

16 Jul 2016 10:38:03
Go on Je!
I'm with you mate.

I'll be happy if we just go one place higher in the league this season. :-)

16 Jul 2016 12:08:18
Positivity around Arsenal's transfer policy is like polishing a turd.

16 Jul 2016 12:33:48
who has driven away malaga this time?

16 Jul 2016 21:45:00
oooooh look at all the positive gooners disagreeing yet again.

It's gone beyond boring now the negativeness on this site.

Seriously I've been reading this site for near on 5years and I have never seen it so full of such depressing bastards as yourselves (minus a few)

Cry cry cry we should have signed him blah blah blah well we didn't so get over it n get on with it. Jesus anyone would think we were ****ing aston villa listening to you lot. Even the toot have a better crack.
•Dags' jokes have gone missing
•Malaga has no rumours
•ed002 dissapears because of twats
•and Steve, well say no more

Over n out.

16 Jul 2016 22:16:46
Jegooner sometimes people post and don't deserve a response.

16 Jul 2016 23:34:54
Agree Steve mate but it's honestly ruining the site (in my eyes) all the negativity is too much. We have a title challenging team as do the rest, if we miss out on a player then so what? We just have to find another target or fight harder for the league.

Yes trophies have not come in abundance but look at the football we provide, look at the players we DO have, look at the beautiful stadium we get to watch beautiful football in, in many many ways we are blessed. We all want improvement and higher goals set and we all know we can achieve much more with a couple of tweeks but to come on here everyday and read the same bull that comes out of people's mouths day after day is just plain boring.
Ed002 was absolutely awesome at providing us with the most accurate info I have ever read about our beloved club (other eds do a great job too) yet the people that can't accept the info given have to give the guys dung and cause the rest of us to suffer.

Like I said I'm sorry for the rant but everyday it's getting harder and harder to visit and it's really not fair on the eds for all the hard work they put in or anyone for that matter yes not every post will be positive (obviously) but maybe a "can't wait to see the midfield force of xhaka, Rambo n ozil in action" something along those lines would be a start.

:)

16 Jul 2016 23:59:59
With all due respecttit's banter and opinion, not fact, if you can't cope then I'm sorry, i have to put up wth all the wenger in wingers. i'm sure the eds don't give a toss what we think.

17 Jul 2016 01:27:35
That last bit doesn't sound right, what i meant to say is i'm sure all the eds can take it or leave it if we are moaning or happy and join in if they want or don't want to. With respect.

16 Jul 2016 08:08:35
Why do loads of people hate Walcott? He had a good season 2014/ 2015 until he was injured, started last season well for the first few games until he was replaced with giroud. He's not our best player but no where near our worst.

16 Jul 2016 08:30:24
I don't hate Walcott, but the problem is, he's the player embodiment of our transfer windows.

Starts off well, lowers his standard, hits a bad patch, wait till next season for good play.

He's inconsistent and only really hits good form when a new contract is nearing.
He's one of our highest paid players, up there with Özip and Sanchez who are world class at top form, whilst Theo is merely average.

I don't see the point in keeping Theo around, paying him massive wages when he can't get in the team ahead of a 19 year old or a cm playing on the wing.
We don't have the luxury Chelsea/ Utd/ City have, of paying massive wages to players who won't pay, we already pay a silly amount to youth players.
If a player is earning top dollar at our club, he's either got to be starting or moving on and seeing as Arsene doesn't start Theo these days.

16 Jul 2016 09:09:18
I guess to replace a HG player is expensive plus there is no signing fee so I guess the agent uses that to convert to a higher wage. Same as players who run down there contract. I like Theo on form and useful to have. If we want to compete, the squad especially the bench and team will all be well paid.
I would rather sell the Ox than Theo.

16 Jul 2016 13:42:38
But I in no way think he should start the season ( once all are players are available from their brake ) in the 1st team, he does have to prove himself. Not a striker either.

16 Jul 2016 03:23:17
I was hoping we get rid off mertesacker and Walcott.

16 Jul 2016 08:13:00
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Call me.