Arsenal Banter Archive June 16 2014

 

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16 Jun 2014 22:00:52
Don't you just love it when a player is subbed and the referee chases him off the pitch like a sheepdog rounding up sheep.

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Cum by .

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16 Jun 2014 21:10:20
Reina available for an alleged £3m!

It would be rude not to!

I think he's quality and just the keeper we need to back up and mentor shez but also be a solid number 1 if required!

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16 Jun 2014 21:55:49
Agree Greeny, just don't know if Reina would be happy being a number 2.

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Think Liverpool would allow Napoli to take him for 3 mill, not us! Don't think they would assist in strengthening domestic rivals as easy as we do

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Would be a great signing. I can't imagine Liverpool being too enthusiastic about selling him to rivals. Then again, if there are no offers, they will have to try & save two seasons wages, approx £10m!

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16 Jun 2014 19:30:51
Ed's, is it true we have or about to make a bid for Balotelli or is it just twitter, and are we any closer to Khedira?.thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - I have no intention about answering questions about Twitter.}

Have we the tabloids are, stating it too?.

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ED002, who founded Twitter. ;)

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16 Jun 2014 18:57:30
Is dags loic remy? is 1404 Wayne Rooney? is ed002 the stigg? it's mid June and I'm none the wiser to what is going on here. But here's what I do know After going missing against Italy Rooney has been found singing stay away, remy has got the cabbie that odemwengie uses on speed dial to the emirates and ed002 has nicked the lotus F1 car, google it, it's all true!

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There once was a wizard who could walk on water. ED002 however CAN SWIM THROUGH LAND!

He is Chuck Norris mofo!

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16 Jun 2014 20:44:07
Well I've been called some things in my time but 'Wayne Rooney' has to be the worst

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16 Jun 2014 21:05:41
My secret is out Saint.

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16 Jun 2014 21:51:50
1404, Saint was harsh on you, calling you Rooney lol.

I got off lightly being called Loic Remy.

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16 Jun 2014 23:05:46
Damn right Dags, Wayne Rooney is an over weight ginger womanising Manchester United fan, and I categorically deny ever being a Manchester United fan. I'm thinking of suing.

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17 Jun 2014 07:04:25
Now that was some hair transplant. Ginger! Wow! When he was younger he had dreadlocks.

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17 Jun 2014 15:16:07
I make you correct 1404.

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1404. womanising?

you mean gran-nanising.

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16 Jun 2014 18:28:28
Watching the Germany game and from and Ozil does not look like a very happy man coming off, am I imagining this or is there something I'm missing?

Also good to see Kheidra putting an arm round him on the way of, sign him up Arsene!

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16 Jun 2014 19:58:30
he was always brought off under the arse in blue. and portugal were a man down, save them legs jakcgooner!!

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16 Jun 2014 17:40:54
The two players I feel we really need to make huge attempts to sign are Balotelli and Khedira. But if there is any truth to the rumours that Atletico Madrid are interested in Cazorla, they were last year as well, would anyone else be tempted to cash in on him and make an attempt to get Griezmann? Cazorla has been a great servant to the club, and I would only want him to be moved on if we replaced him with a similar player, which I feel Griezmann is much like Cazorla he is able to play anywhere behind the striker and is only 23 rather than Cazorla who is 29. What does everyone else think, would you cash in on the interest that there maybe around Cazorla? Or do we need to hold what we have and address the more pressing issues in the squas, CF, CDM and RB?

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I'd personally get rid. He wants out, is starting to rock the boat a little to. Get rid and get someone who wants to play no matter where he plays. Greizman would be a great choice if he's available.

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Balotelli yes please. I would prefer Pogba to Khedira.
If we can get £16m for Cazorla & replace him with Valbuena for less, I would be happy.

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16 Jun 2014 15:31:01
Hope we keep vermaelen and not sell him to United he's a useful player and with a bit of confidence he may be staring again soon also edd any interest in blind, velmant, de vrij, martins indi they all would be good additions to the squad getting a bit restless now about transfers hope we don't regret not signing cesc oh also edd do you expect Carzola and monreal thanks

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Vermaelen hasn't looked the same player since his achilles ops. It may be best for the player and the club, if he moves on. If he moves to United, we should insist on an exchange deal. Smalling or Jones would be good deals, as both are young & English.

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{Ed025's Note - and both crap!..get the money and reinvest it for me robbie

Tbh the only 3 players I see good enough to improve our starting 11 would be RvP, Rooney or mata

but I wouldn't have either of the first two for the obvious reasons.

there are a couple who might improve our depth. but other than juan mata I wouldn't do a swap for Tommy V

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16 Jun 2014 14:07:35
1404

The Liverpool boys start infront of Rooney each time.

Please don't compare Messi with Rooney, that is an insult

lol

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I'm a believer in club teammates in international teams. I was never sure why in the early-mid 90's arsenals back 5 wasn't consistently the England back 5. It gives you an advantage straight away. A group of players that know each other than they otherwise would. For example, if Liverpool sign lallana, I'd say Sturridge, sterling and lallana would be a good option as part of the England attack.

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A bit like comparing a supermarket 75p steak and kidney pie to a Harrod's beef wellington

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16 Jun 2014 20:47:48
When did I compare Rooney with Messi? YOU said Rooney never performs well at the World Cup and shouldn't play I merely pointed out the ridiculousness of your statement as Messi doesn't perform either so maybe he should be dropped to by your own standards?? And also I think it was you that said Rooney had a bad season last year, didn't though did he petal. lol

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16 Jun 2014 13:45:11
After much contemplation, I have FINALLY figured out who we are actually going to sign and I should warn all of you, brace yourself to be gutted.

Soloman Kalou.

1. Versitile: Wenger likes players he can deploy in multiple positions.
2. CHEAP: Money is ALWAYS an issue at Arsenal
3. Age: Wenger does not want to 'kill' the progress of his youngsters

I could go into more detail about the type of ability he offers (decent dribbler, decent pace, etc); the fact that we have been admiring and watching the player in the past. The fact that the he has expressed interest in the past - and would happily come back to a champions league team, versus Lille.

Not even trying to be cynical here - but realistic.

Sorry boys, but open to a counter-argument on why this is not EASILY the most probable transfer for Arsenal.

Billybob

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16 Jun 2014 14:58:45
That's just ridiculous it's going to be Gareth Barry or Joleon Lescott with maybe, just maybe an outside chance of Brede Hangeland.

Try and be a little realistic, I'm mean Jeez Chelsea didn't want to let him go but the pull of the French lower league was just too much.

Are you Robbie Gooners dad?

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Genius Jenny. Instead if being rude, tell us 5 players you think we will sign this summer and I will do the same. Let's see who gets more correct.

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16 Jun 2014 16:44:55
Oops, it was tongue in cheek Robbie and not meant to offend. Made that mistake before.

So apologies and I'm out of here. :-)

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16 Jun 2014 18:34:59
What are your 5 Robbie?

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16 Jun 2014 21:08:44
Jenny, we know you were only joking x

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Hi Rocky
5 Wenger type targets:
1. Kalou
2. Remy
3. Zaldua
4. Smalling
5. Barry

Havent a clue about a keeper

My 5 realistic signings
1) Begovic
2) Richards
3) Pogba
4) Hangelan
5) Balotelli

Your selections for Wenger & you

Our last 5 signings
1) Flamini
2) Viviano
3) Sanogo
4) Ozil
5) Kalstrom

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No probs Jenny.
I just get fed up with fellow Gooners attacking each other. By all means offer different opinions.

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Jenny joking? I thought that was Dags job on here

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Robbie
I'm extremely surprised that with your negativity towards the club and spending money that you have put Paul Pogba as one of your "realistic" signings. IF he leaves Juve he will go for absolute silly money more than likely to PSG. Somewhere between 60-75 million.
I'm still positive that we will spend a considerable amount, 50 mill max on 1 player.

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Rocky, by realistic I mean possible. Yes Pogba will be expensive, but I believe a deal could be done.
Your 5 signings?

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{Ed002's Note - You might have a long summer waiting for Pogba. Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Chelsea, Manchester City, PSG and Real Madrid all have shown an interest in Pogba. PSG are obviously in a difficult situation with UEFA and will need to sell to buy to help start balancing the books - but they want Pogba and will be putting a cash plus player deal on the table. Juve have decided they can probably not afford to keep both Pogba and Vidal if they are to do some business in the transfer market - and they will look to keep Vidal.}

16 Jun 2014 13:30:55
Ivan gazidis was at the Italy v England so could of been there on arsenal matters or for the FA

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Or simply using his position of power to watch World Cup games for free whilst joe public can't afford the air fare let alone a ticket!

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Agree with greeny

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Like you wouldn't greeny! ¡Haha!

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Greeny is correct.

IG wouldn't have a clue of what players to sign, he would try and sign the OX

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Don't get me wrong, if someone offered me free travel to Brazil and free tickets which clearly IG gets under the guise of doing "club business" somehow, which he is pretending to do then I definitely would do the same.

Doesn't make it right for fans though.

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16 Jun 2014 12:24:58
Some of you on here need to get an hobby, otherwise it's going to be a long summer ( although that's not a bad thing ) and you will make yourselves ill. there's still 10 weeks to go until the transfer window closes and it ain't open yet. We need players and we will get players, comment on the amount and quality when we get them, or not. don't fret yet its not got going and the world cup was always going to blunt things. Chill.

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Well said steve!

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16 Jun 2014 19:25:25
Very true Steve. Its a WC year.

If we thought the Jan window was going to be difficult, the period between end of season and the WC starting is a no hope.

OK maybe with a few exceptions, but the majority of players won't entertain the idea of any domestic negotiations until after the WC.

So forget the "sign early" stuff. Not Wenger's or anyone else's fault. Just the way it is.

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16 Jun 2014 12:21:49
how can you even believe wenger used his head and not his heart in the non-signing of fabregas and then go further to say his role is well covered at arsenal. (who in the arsenal midfield bar ozil would start before cesc)

have people forgotten what a player he was. yes wasted at barca but not for us. and chelsea are not dumb either. 10 years on and still the youngest player to ever start for arsenal.

one of the few people who actually is as good as the media hypes.

i truly believe wenger let his feelings get in the way (i.e. used his heart) and was hurt how one after the other players left him and didn't follow his vision of a financial stable football club.

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16 Jun 2014 10:29:10
Eds has this tramsfer window got the potential to be a disaster for arsenal? Heard vernal when is definitely going to united and we haven't signed 1 player yet

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{Ed002's Note - It'll be fine.}

Do you promise Ed, cross your heart hope to turn into Wayne Rooney proper promise?

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Last season we made one top signing. The others were Flamini on a free, Sanago 500,000 euros, Viviano on loan & Kalstrom on loan.
So far we have lost/let go: Fabianski, Sagna & Bendtner, with Vermaelen likely to go.
The transfer window will be a disaster as the negotiators are clearly not up to the job and Wenger has an aversion to spending. Mark my words we will get a keeper on a free. We will elevate Jenkinson to first choice RB & Bellerin as back up. We will sign a CB for what we receive for Vermaelen or someone like Hangelan on a free, with Hayden as additional back up. We will bring Joel Campbell into the squad. I expect us then to make one more signing, a forward. The max net spend will be £30m.

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I'm not so filled with confidence, heard we are looking at nani (can play well. Every now and then but not consistently) in a possible exchange for verm! Sagna's at city, and fab's at chavski. Also hearing about our interest in casillias. Dropped from Madrid, made an error in champs league final and looked poor against holland the other day! It all just sounds like wenger is still in penny pinching mode regardless of how much we apparently have to spend! I take what gazidis says with a pinch of salt because he is only interested in making sure season tickets are sold even with another 3% price hike! We do need body's, but mediocre players is not good enough, found wanting again last year with our strength in depth. Wilshere is a banker to get an injury at some point, most likely Rambo and ozil to so I really thought fabregas could of been useful as that is world class replacement! Never enjoy transfer windows as a gooner, linked to so many top names yet more than often left with players of sanogo, squillaci and that Brazilian left back we hads quality! Ozil way a rare exception

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16 Jun 2014 10:22:53
so sagna to city, cesc to chelski, vermaelen to utd (could be). how long before liverpool knock the door for cazorla/walcott (or whoever). are we serious about winning anything like ever. or does wenger dream that every team in PL should have an ex arsenal man

letting sagna go meant we have to buy a player, not signing cesc was a mistake as the injuries we have mean we need more people there. especially with cazorla now making noises about moving.

vermaelen leaving means we have to get 2 cb. and we were lucky with kos/mert last year but will they go without injury all season?

fabianski departure means we need 2nd choice gk, and 3rd choice too but maybe we will promote someone for 3rd.

an already weak squad has been weakened immensely since the end of the season.

with arteta/rosicky aging,
gnabry/nacho not performing at the highest levels
sonogo - not the revelation we need
wilshere, gibbs, jenks all very injury prone

i think the squad needs a massive overhaul. and I don't believe wenger will be going for that. 2/3 players won't even secure us top 4.

utd will bounce back, everton will be better with martinez (still expecting spurs to flop. lol)

even if we keep cazorla & vermaelen we need 4 first team starters, and 3 squad players. lose those 2 and we need 4 starters and 5/6 squad players. and I just don't see wenger buying/promoting players

wenger really needs to add to the players we have and not just replace those going out. he did the same in rvp season, and the same when we lost cesc/nasri. if he keeps adding inferior quality to those leaving we need more and more players every season.

sorry about the long post. just don't see him changing his ways this year

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Wenger will not change. Look at last season's signings, other than Ozil.
All this talk of spending £100m is nonsense. He will spend £30m net max.
We will once again have a weak squad & suffer injuries.
We need to replace Fabianski, Sagna & Vermaelen with similar quality or ideally better players. We need a 4th CB. We need to sign players who can replace Arteta & Flamini, who are paceless. We need a quality forward and back up for the left sided attacking role.

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Thank you MrD.

Someone who realises 2/3 players ain't going to cut it this summer!

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Well said mrd. It's a bloody joke

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16 Jun 2014 09:46:35
In my opinion, though it could be wrong, I think a lot of you are wrong in expecting a flood of new faces through the door. I think Wenger will do what he can to keep the current squad together as to avoid what happened to tottenham last year. You cannot bring in too many players that are expected to be regular starters at once. With rumours of cazorla and tv5 leaving, I just cannot see Wenger allowing it to happen, as they will have to be replaced, and the possibility of replacing them with better players is slim. That'll make us a worse team as players aren't as good first season 9 times out of 10. I think the max amount of players we'll get who could be first team regulars would be 3. Absolute maximum. Then there would be a back up keeper, also.

Many of you will disagree but I believe that three first team signings, being a right back, a defensive midfielder and a striker would be more beneficial than adding 5 or 6. That's just too many. As well as the 3 first team players and a new back up keeper, we'll be getting Joel Campbell back, as well as people like gnabry and Walcott back from injury.

Also, I think of the three first team regular signings, I think only one would be a big money signing. Maybe khedira, with a remy or bony, and aurier. Or maybe ballotelli as a big money signing with aurier and schnederlin if he's available sub £20million.

I could be wrong, but I don't think Wenger is the sort to unsettle a happy squad. And I for one respect him for that.

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16 Jun 2014 09:16:21
If Vermaelen leaves, which looks quite likely, we need at least one keeper, possibly two. A right back & two centre backs.
Our defensive midfield players, Arteta & Flamini could be improved and we need a quality striker.
Somehow I can't see Wenger signing 6 to 8 players that we need. Our squad will be weak and hence the injuries will continue.

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I've been saying this since the January window. We are going to lose so many players this summer in addition to the players we need to improve, AW is going to have to let down his 'no more than 3-4 players' nonsense. If he doesn't we will have a thread bare squad.

Look at the players we could possibly lose:

Fabianski(gone), Sagna(gone), Vermaelen, Monreal, Arteta, Cazorla, Podolski.

They were all main players for us last year. Add in the fact we already needed a new striker and a new winger then you are looking at 9 new players!

It's ridiculous that we have let it get to this again!

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I don't think Monreal, Arteta, Cazorla or Podolski will leave. Even so we have our work cut out replacing the players that have left, never mind improving the squad. I would love to see:
Begovic, Richards, Hangelan, (Keep Vermaelen), Pogba (break the bank), De Jong, Balotelli & Di Maria!

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Arteta will be replaced with a better DM for sure. Cazorla wants to return to Spain and I'd an offer came for Podolski we'd let him go. Monreal probably won't go.

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I think 3-4 first team players will be plenty. The answer is simple; don't sell tv5 and cazorla.

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But they want to go. So if the clubs receive the right offer, they will go.

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16 Jun 2014 08:07:09
Reading some of the banter on here I thought I'd throw my views in, despite them being unwanted, unfounded and unintelligible.
1. The "no to Mario" posts seem to have gone quiet.
2. Any one of Mario, Benzema or Martinez would vastly improve our squad. Big thanks to the Colombian coach for keeping Jackson under wraps for us. Benzema is quality and would tick all the boxes for us. Mario could become one of the best in the world with us. Mark. My. Words.
3. Rooney is a very good player, period. But he's definitely overrated by the media and marketing. I still feel he could be excellent for your lot. If anyone should be dropped, it's Welbeck, who becomes an impact sub. Play a front 3 with Rooney central and Sterling and Sturridge out wide. Ox could also slot in there. Bring Barkley on for Welbeck to play attacking mid, with 2 of Hendo/Ox/Gerrard deeper. Rooney is far more useful centrally, than Welbeck.
4. Reading England fans posts, as well as the recommendations to the FA regarding the perceived lack of English talent coming through the PL. As an outsider (go Socceroos!) I honestly don't see it. Look at your starting 11, you have players who are starting 11 players for the top clubs, in the strongest league in the world. Compare that to teams like Colombia or Uruguay, who have big stars from Europe supplemented with domestic league players. You have young players who have forced their way into the squad because of their great form in the EPL. For me, the demise of English talent is exaggerated. I'm not saying I know what the issues may be but, you guys certainly have the cattle to go a lot further in tournaments than you have. I honestly think you've got a good young squad on your hands. Unlucky in the Italy match, but I reckon they'll show their talent against Uruguay.

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16 Jun 2014 10:14:29
Good post Outback.

Totally agree about Welbeck, how he get's into England's starting 11 is amazing.

Rooney down the middle and Sturridge and Sterling on the wings is a good shout and worth a punt.

Failing that, 4-4-2, Rooney and Sturridge up front, Sterling and Lallana on the wings works for me.

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If we lose Thursday with Rooney again looking lost Roy will get slaughtered for not dropping him, but if we lose without Rooney who will seriously believe that this time after so many world cup finals games where he's struggled to have any impact he would have come good? Dropping him makes sense playing him after so many failures just doesn't.
Not only has he never scored at this level but when has he ever played well for the team?

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16 Jun 2014 07:23:46
So Cazorla wants out? Fine. Özil is the main man which means Santi has to play more on the wing. And he's not suited to that because he doesn't have enough pace and doesn't defend enough. He's also 29 now so it's probably the best time to sell him.

We can sell him as long as we replace him well. I like Santi but if he wants out I'd rather have someone like Di Maria, Turan or Sanchez playing on our left wing.

By the way Ed, does Wenger ever have a vacation?

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If Cazorla wants out, we should sign Valbuena, a great replacement.

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17 Jun 2014 02:04:48
If we can get the 18mil being thrown about I say let him go and put the money on a quick left winger like you say he is just not cut out for the wing, great cam but not better than Ozil

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16 Jun 2014 01:35:08
Steve r
Benzema has no pace is what you are saying
You have said that he brings nothing more than what Giroud already gives us and we need a player with speed
I can tell you that Benzema and Walcott in a race there would not be much in it whereas Giroud in a race with Walcott, do I need to carry on
Leave the jokes to the real comedians

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Sorry can't make head nor tail of what you are saying, read the posts properly. Slow has never been mentioned, I prefer quite a few ahead of benzema and a different type of striker. He is for me is more a box player. He is used to having players around pull the strings. I think we need a more fluid player, like mad mario or suarez who bring a little more to the table. By the way walcott would kill him.lol

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My idea of bolstering the front line now as I have mensioned previously, bring in cambell and mad mario and the striker situation is sorted. A good mix of youth experience and abilities.

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15 Jun 2014 18:52:30
Hi ed
The papers seem to be continually linking us with a move for Casillas. Is there any truth in these rumours.

Thank You

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{Ed027's Note - Nope, he will stay at Real Madrid

Hope so, he's not great!

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15 Jun 2014 23:59:26
Would love Benzema at Arsenal ( yes, you heard me correct), but as Steve r said earlier, £40m is a lot of wonga.

But, he looked good tonight, 2 goals and a major assist for the own goal.

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Hes obviously a vey good player. He is surrounded by class at real and for me he is no better than giroud, I think giroud would get a similar amount if he played for real. I don't see him bringing something we are missing and would like a quicker player. I will give him some credit, where he is better than giroud he is immune to pressure and scores big goals though, which is an asset.

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16 Jun 2014 01:33:35
Yep, I would pick Remy over Benz, but you all know that already, lol.

I am beginning to warm to nuttytelli, but his price is going to go up an extra £10m after WC, that could scare Ebeneezer Wenger away.

Darren Bent anybody?.

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