Arsenal Banter Archive May 16 2018

16 May 2018 20:43:15
i think that along with a managerial and backroom staff change, we need a fan mentality and fan organisation change! we need an ultras group! we nees a guy shouting incomprehensibly into a megaphone, we need the whole bloody stadium standing, singing and shouting! we complain about our players being weak and switching off. guess what? their energy reflects ours! we need to show the club LOVE and DETERMINATION to go forward into a new era which is upon us. if we project the energy towards the field the players WILL pickup on it, they WILL show our LOVE back! this way we will truly make ashburton grove a HOME, a FORTRESS! it is what Wenger always wanted from us!

16 May 2018 21:03:08
We have the AST let's hope they at least talk to them.

16 May 2018 21:42:13
We need Simeone.

16 May 2018 21:52:31
Dags, that to obvious, if we were a club with any ambition, we would be in there with a big offer. But we will get?

16 May 2018 23:58:15
Arteta 😂.

16 May 2018 18:54:10
Massive reservations about Arteta if he is the one but I will get, behind him 100% if he is the one. Yesterday he was over the finishing line and the bookies had allegedly stop taking bets, and I must admit I had resign myself to him being the new coach but today I am not to sure. I am just wondering have the board getting cold feet giving the job to such a young and experience manager and if that's type of manager/ coach they wanted surely Nagelstam or Paddy fitted the bill better. I am 100% Viera man but that appears not to be happening so in my view if it someone else its got to be Ancellott or Emery or a as a outside bet Rafa. Just like to say about the posters voicing their opinions about the Wenger out brigade . They are entitled to their opinions but it was clear in the last few seasons that despite 3 Fa Cups which at other clubs would have earned him a long long contract our form in the prem/ champions league was way below from what we should expect and first and foremost football is a results business then its absolutely clear in my mind it was time for Arsene to go.
As I said earlier whoever it is we all need to get behind him and the team for what could be a helluva rollercoaster of a ride.

16 May 2018 19:09:04
Mate I brought up the point that ed025 had said previously that people should be careful what they wish and I said that because panic would appear to have set in about who comes next rather than simply waiting to see.

Having supported Wenger for a long time I’m 100% glad he has hung up his coat and wanted him to do it after his last contract ended. I believe the vast majority did.

I have a manager I’d love to see here but ultimately it’s not my place to employ whoever so it’s a game of wait and see and ignore the utter row locks written in the press.

{Ed025's Note - can you enlighten us to who that is stoner?..

16 May 2018 19:22:40
If it does turn out to be Artetta ( which personally I don't think it will be) then none of us can genuinely have an educated opinion on his management ability because he's niether failed or succeeded anywhere before.
As for Arsene well I think the last decade has shown us he unfortunately is no longer capable of making Arsenal competive over 38 games with the points difference between us and that seasons champions never being in single figures once.
Arsene unfortunately left us in no question as to his current ability to take us forward while Artetta is certainly not the people's choice but there is a possibility he could get us back in the running and that's something Arsene couldn't offer anymore.

{Ed0333's Note - the question is can Arteta handle the pressure of a club the size of Arsenal and the vitriol of the jokers on Arsenal TV? As you say gunner we’ll never know until he has the job

16 May 2018 19:55:08
I'm a Wenger man, but have waivered over the past 12 months or so.

He has, and always will, have my total respect and admiration, but as G62 has pointed out previously, no title challenge, not even close, for past 14 seasons, meant it was time to move on managerially.

If I had to list my top 10 managerial choices, Arteta would be 11th. But, if appointed, would always get my support, albeit through gritted teeth.

16 May 2018 20:17:17
Sorry ed025, it’s Allegri mate but if we are going to gamble, which Arteta would be, then it’s Nagelsmann for me.

Don’t want Arteta, Ancelotti, Enrique or Fat SAM!

{Ed025's Note - i like allegri stoner, i dont think he will come if its a tight budget though mate..

16 May 2018 20:31:35
For me in this big bad footballing world, we don't need a rookie to drag us out of the dolldrums we are in. It is a big job but ot is also a job you can look at annd say, if we sort this and this out then obvious improvement will come. Get the guy to fit the bill. Then see what happens. We haven't got to be "brave" gazidis, just sensible.

16 May 2018 20:33:48
I don't know one person, friend or family who think arteta is a good appointment, in fact some of the reactions have been worrying.

16 May 2018 20:54:05
But Steve some of those friends will be saying I always thought he would be good IF he gets the job at all and should he finish top 4 next season.
Artetta certainly wouldn't be my choice for many reasons but it's ridiculous to write the man off SHOULD HE get the job at all.
Those who are getting outraged without anything going wrong simply because Artetta isn't their choice are getting upset about absolutely nothing but a silly rumour that no credible source has mentioned as about to happen.
Didn't Sky tell us Higguain was actually at the Emirates having his Arsenal medical at one point 3 or 4 years back:-)
Very reliable information that was :-)

16 May 2018 20:13:51
As you say Ed0333 mate he will have to be thick skinned from day one because Arsenal fan tv won't be short of critics even before he makes a single decision.
Agree 100% Dags, whoever the new man is give him the benefit of the doubt until at least until he shows genuine signs of being incapable.

The really strange thing is That Artetta is a closer to being Arsenal manager ready than Henry but if Henry was suddenly hot favourite people would be very very excited rather than out ragged ;-) which is difficult to understand other the fact that people let their emotions influence thier common sense judgements.

16 May 2018 22:38:18
Gunner that last bit you said, is just a fact and that influences a lot. If he was an arsenal hero or legend, he would get more support, its just a fact of life. He may or may not be a future legend but that will be done without the initial hope and expectation, rightly or wrongly.

16 May 2018 11:29:26
Where is everyone getting their information from about Arteta. Seems like people are overreacting to daily mail and sky "sources" rumours.

16 May 2018 11:52:09
Paddy your my new favourite :-)
Why would every media source in the country know what the Eds Ornstein and BBC don't know?
It's Irrational to think only the reliable sources are wrong and the hit seekers right.

16 May 2018 13:12:48
As much as i will probably get slated for posting this, ill do it anyway. People can slate Sky Sports all they want but how can everyone say they're unreliable when this page is just a forum also? Nobody really knows on here either until its confirmed by the clubs itself! Info on here and on Sky Sports is talk until its confirmed. Its just makes a good read for the club supporters! Papertalk is papertalk, simple. Sky Sports is as close to correct as you'll get until the club makes it official.

16 May 2018 13:46:04
Agree with Glenn.
I don't read too much into paper talk, but if it's on Sky Sports it has credible substance.

{Ed001's Note - or, more often, there is a betting market to stir up.}

16 May 2018 13:51:39
Sorry but haven't you read ed002's posts? He hasn't state Arteta is already the man, but he has been clear about how our options are getting slim, as well as Arteta has come to the fore.
It seems from this information, as things stand, that Carlo could be our only option to the Arteta move. And I do trust ed002 here.

16 May 2018 14:46:04
I think it would be dumb not to make a few concessions to get anew manager. Most managers like to take a player who they have worked with or can implement their style.

16 May 2018 14:52:21
I pretty much only trust what ed002 says. I am aware of the 'rumors' from media everyday, but choose to ignore them. If you think about how much football gossip has changed over the years, it makes sense why so many stories come out. When I was younger, you would buy the weekly newspaper and have a small section in the back pages for football gossip.

These days, with the internet and advertising, websites are expected to produce 'new' stories and 'breaking exclusives' every. single. day! Heck, every single hour! All they want is clicks, and at the moment anything resembling Wenger's replacement is the hottest clickbait around.

Sky sports for me are included in this. How many stories over the years have looked genuine, odds on, and then turned out to be bull? The only information that i've ever seen turn out to be true, came from this website.

16 May 2018 16:17:20
The Eds tell us what they know and if they don't know they just say " I don't know " Sky makes its money from ads so if there ain't no news they make it up like the rest of the media that is ad or hit dependent.
There just isn't enough real news to sustain a 24/7 football news so they simply invent what they don't know.

16 May 2018 15:43:12
Good point Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - don't sound so surprised, I was bound to make one eventually!}

16 May 2018 07:09:13
For me it's a no brainer. Allegri should be the new coach

Fifty years old, so still has a few miles ahead of him

Know how to win, seven out of seven comnsecutive Serie A trophies

Can fix our defensive woes


Why would he leave a winning Juventus to join us? Simple:

A. He earns less at Juve than Wenger did at Arsenal
B. Give him the funds to panel beat the team. TBH, I think there is a very good core. WE need to fix Defence and DMF woes.

16 May 2018 07:58:57
I agree! He only was responsible for the last 4 series A tittles though.