Arsenal Banter Archive May 17 2017

 

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17 May 2017 22:29:51
Top scorers in Prem.

Lukaku, Sanchez, Kane, Aguero and Costa.

But, in terms of goals scored compared to minutes played, Giroud has, by far, a better record than all of the above.

One goal every 100 mins. The above players average 140 mins per goal.

Go figure 😂.

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17 May 2017 23:04:06
I don't want to blow my own trumpet but I will. Most of girouds goals have come off the bench this season. I have said with his lack of pace and guille he would be a better plan b than plan a. He is not hood enough to open up and move defenders about at the start of matches. He always does better off the bench.

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17 May 2017 23:52:30
Steve is right. I actually shivered as I said that :p.

Pretty sure Kane was around 105-110 per goal?

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18 May 2017 00:22:16
D16, Kane's the closest on 107 mins.

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18 May 2017 02:24:41
Going on the giroud theory of goals per minute, Batushayi must be up there. Lol.

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18 May 2017 08:37:00
Giroud is good for 15 premier league goals per season whether from the bench or if he starts 38 games, how many seasons has he been with us?
Stats are always deceptive it's why politicians love using them, we all know Olly strengths​ and weaknesses and he isn't going to win anyone a title​ as their main striker, unfortunately because I really like the bloke.

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17 May 2017 20:32:25
While I think wengers time is past, I also am wondering whether maureens is as well. He won the league two seasons ago but obviously he failed the next and this, badly. Yes he's won a carling mug and they might sneak in to the champs league through the loo door. But man u this year have been bang average in the league. He is of course young enough to reinvent himself but I just wonder if like wenger he's too far up his own exhaust pipe to change.

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17 May 2017 21:28:16
I think next we season will be the true test for both Pep and Jose as the City and Utd they put out will definitely be their sides 100%, although for Mourinho 2 cups is his first season? Hardly a dreadful return is it Steve :-)
Klopp will get more time at Liverpool to deliver simply because he doesn't have the resources of Utd and City and took over a poker squad in the first place.
Next season will be huge for Gardiola and Mourinho and the season after will be the same for Klopp, as for Arsene? If hasn't retain the 4th place trophy by the time the 22 world cup gets here he might not get another contact with making itsy bitsy compromises, if it's ok with him of course :-)

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17 May 2017 22:23:19
I'm all in favour of a change.

New ideas, new "formation", new style of play, ala Conti at Chelsea.

Would love Allegri, but Wenger will still be at the helm next season.

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17 May 2017 21:33:09
Bloody hell steve are you trying to win back friends by slamming mourinho? It's too early to pass judgement on him yet. He's a pr*ck but let's be straight steve. United get CL through the loo door as you put it and then they flex their huge muscles again and challenge for the prem? As shit as they have been they went 20 odd games unbeaten. i wouldn't be calling that just yet mate.

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17 May 2017 22:44:08
I don't think jose is what he used to be. Him at inter was the best imo what he did with them was amazing.
Next year could bring him back or break him. Hel spend big i'm sure. But it seems mendes has a lot of influence in him.

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17 May 2017 23:12:12
If he wins the two trophies ( the reserve league cup and the eurovision ) that is not what man u are looking for. Granted you have to start somewhere. I just think he maybe stubborn like wenger to change his limited style to improve their league position. i'm probably wrong but a more expensive system and ideas are the way forward and he has two years now finished outside top four with huge clubs. Not really what I would have expected from him. Like I say he may change but i'm not sure he will.

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17 May 2017 23:39:18
I thought we had won 2 cups in 3 seasons and in final this year - not sure many managers can say that.

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18 May 2017 01:58:35
Bloody Taiwanese predictive text "expansive system and ideas" in my last post.

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18 May 2017 06:45:23
Agree sano they went 20 games unbeaten us 14 and look where we both are. Lol.

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17 May 2017 15:31:18
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new player profile about, Jordan Pickford

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17 May 2017 22:33:03
Very good article.

At a better team, with a better back 4 in front of him, and under the right guidance, this kid could be world class.

Very good read. Spot on in every aspect.

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18 May 2017 01:59:29
What you saying Dags, don't come here then.

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{Ed001's Note - hahaha ste. And thank you dagola!}

17 May 2017 11:28:14
At least if we can stop lukaku from scoring and alexi can get on the score sheet then someone can get an award this season!

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17 May 2017 14:57:35
Sorry kinloch Harry Kane will be seeing to that award.

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17 May 2017 15:12:34
What hasn't the 5th place trophy been invented yet, well it will soon.

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17 May 2017 16:14:36
On a more serious note, the six players in and around him down to hazard (15) are all out and out strikers, he's been on the wing half the season. Class act and we won't replace him. Where would we have finished if we didn't have him, doesn't bear thinking about, until next season.

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17 May 2017 18:33:46
He's the best player in the prem by some way steve. Your also forgetting steve that bar lukaku all the others have far better players around them and have the chances put on a plate. Sanchez makes half of them himself. 10 assist as well. Honestly if we're going to pay 30 million for a new player I'd offer him that to resign a contract.

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17 May 2017 20:08:45
Sano I can't agree more, I know its obscene but give him what he wants.

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17 May 2017 22:45:41
Sanogo we have offered him mega wages. Its bigger than money with him. But he will double his salary if he moves i'm sure.

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17 May 2017 11:21:59
THe title race used to be between two teams united and Arsenal! Now with the influx of money the quality and teams competing is much higher. The stadium move meant we had to sell our best players year in year out making a profit in nearly every window . song toure fabregas adebayor to name a few were unearthed gems we made great money on. I don't think it's fair to blame Wenger or not competing when we moved to the Emirates the only years he has spent money and invested in the squad are the last two. But with 6 other teams having equally as expensive squads and mid table teams spending upwards of 25million with the influx of TV money the premier league is harder to win than ever. Wenger guided us through a tough period in moving to the new stadium and we will reap the rewards in the future. Football fans are just impatient and if you think we haven't played good football for '10 years' I'm not sure what you watch.

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17 May 2017 11:55:28
Leicester city have been champions Liverpool have put in 2 serious challengers that lasted well into May, Spurs are the only team to cause Leicester any concerns last season and Chelsea this season, and while all this has been going on Arsenal haven't got anywhere close to being premier league champions.
Chelsea Utd City Leicester have all won it both Spurs and Liverpool have been involved in the title race into May twice, so sorry Dolally mate but your arguement doesn't stack up at all.

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17 May 2017 14:11:04
And what did they win for their challenge? Nothing Spurs haven't won anything in years Chelsea languished in tenth last year Liverpool have had endless years in the Europa league man united have been shocking since fergie an dress it up either way. Wenger has done a great job at Arsenal on and off the pitch. And one day past the anger you will see that. Treating a man that live breathes and sleeps Arsenal in this way is shocking it's like having a club legend and in his last couple of years booing him in the pitch because he's lost a yard of pace. Act with dignity. HE Set the standard so high just remember that. As guardiola has shown this year a new high regarded manager doesn't always reap the benefits you crave.

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{Ed001's Note - don't club legends usually get moved on when their time is done, rather than hanging round to be booed? Or does that only apply to players who have had their time?}

17 May 2017 15:10:56
Remind me again when was the last time we were title "challengers" in the league. When was the last time we were sweating in march ( not counting my holiday in thailand ) and now long have we got to deny someone the chance to do a job suitable for a big club, 25, 30 or 40 years. he's over stayed his time and he's not producing it any more in the league. How many supporters of the top six would swap managers with us?

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17 May 2017 18:32:09
G62, in all fairness, you can talk about Liverpool, Spurs and Leicester till you're blue in the face. Bottom line is, the only thing that will be remembered is that Leicester won the title and that Arsenal have been the most consistent team in the last decade.

I'd rather finish in the top 4 than win the title and be in a relegation battle the next season ~ ala Leicester.

Sure, Liverpool came second and challenged in 2013/ 2014, but finished 6th and 8th in the following two seasons.

Spurs challenged last season and still finished behind us.

There are several factors that make what Arsenal have done in the last decade very impressive. Chelsea and Man City finding their spending power, United having debt in excess of half a billion quid are just a few that spring to mind.

People will always point out that we just make up the numbers in the CL. Fact is, it brings in revenue and revenue is the lifeblood of any enterprise.

Sorry mate but your argument about Dolally's argument not stacking up doesn't stack up either. At least not for me.

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17 May 2017 14:45:21
If your a Arsene FC can I see your point entirely Dolally if not I'm struggling to understand where your coming from.
I don't see many shops on the high Street selling black and white telly's and I can't remember the last time the rag n bone man came down our street with his horse and cart or the milkman knocked for his money mate.
Times change and those who change with them seem to fare a lot better than those who refuse to accept a changing world and stay in thier own little pretend world instead.

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17 May 2017 20:05:13
Hi Sharpie mate, your argument about my argument about Dolallys argument just doesn't stack up to me :-)
Football is a sport mate and sport is about competing to the best of your ability.
When top sportsman and women lose their edge they now out with grace because for top sports people and organisations it's all about trying to be the best of the best at what they do, and Usain Bolt won't be happy to finish 4th just keep the millions rolling in and watch others take the glory he once had, he will know when his time is up and accept it with dignity.
The business world cares little about pleasing it's customers if they can get away with it because for them it's all about profit and milking their customers for all they can get while keeping cost to a minimum.
Arsenal football club may well be profitable and ambitious off the field but on the field there is very little sign of real ambition to be the best of the best and in my book that is wrong.
Chelsea and City may well be owned by successful billionaires who value money highly but it doesn't come at the cost of on field ambition the two go hand in hand at both those clubs and just about all other clubs I can think of with just the one exemption of course.

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17 May 2017 20:10:07
Gunner that really made me laugh, you have a way with words.

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18 May 2017 10:32:32
G62, I don't mind having a discourse when examples being touted actually adhere to the conversation at hand. Comparing Usain Bolt to a football team is like trying to compare ET to our friend raver. One's an iconic TV character and the other is an . any way, you get the point.

There are a lot more moving parts in a football team than there are in a lone athlete.

I'm also not sure about your perception of the business world caring little for their customers. Perhaps there are a few that operate this way but the vast majority don't. Profits are an integral part of any business and so are people. Balancing the two isn't always easy and I fear this is the case with Arsenal FC right now.

Where some fans see failure (on the pitch) , there are those that see a club trying to balance the requirements of running a viable business while still trying to keep the customer (fans) on side. Is it working at Arsenal? I guess that depends on how you measure success for our club. Me, I see a healthy business and a team that is consistently in the top 4 and in the CL. Do I think we can do better? Of course I do? Do I want us to do better at the expense of the club? Most definitely not.

We can sit about discussing how things would be different if Kroenke wasn't at the helm or if Arsene stepped down. This isn't the reality of our club though. We can choose to accept this and enjoy the successes (and rightfully cry over our loses) on a game by game basis, OR, we can do what we're doing and whinge at every win, whinge at every loss, whinge at our manager, whinge at the board, whinge at the owner, whinge at the fact that Usmanov is not the owner. I know what I'd rather be doing .

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17 May 2017 11:16:00
not arsenal related, but i saw a headline: "Pep Guardiola has made a personal phone call to Milan 'keeper Gianluigi Donnarumma to try and lure the youngster to Man City this summer, according to reports in Italy. "
and i was wondering what constitutes tapping up?

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{Ed002's Note - Making personal phone calls to players if you do not have permission to do so constitutes "tapping up" - but this is the Arsenal page and perhaps you should take it to the Manchester City page to discuss.}

17 May 2017 11:58:24
thanks for your reply ed, sorry it wasnt arsenal related, i was just wondering as a general football question rather than about city and didn't want to take it to there page incase it riled them up! XD are there many consequences from it? you don't hear about it too often, is that because managers generally don't do it, or they're just not stupid enough to let anyone hear about it?

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{Ed002's Note - This is not the place to discuss. It is an unsubstantiated accusation from a press that simply makes things up for the gullible English fans. If he did speak to him I am pretty sure it would have been nothing more than a misdialled number.}

17 May 2017 12:25:07
he will end up at city. offering him 70-80k a week i believe. great prospect.

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17 May 2017 04:59:41
Crikey how many were at the emirates last night. Empty seats everywhere.

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17 May 2017 07:42:33
That's because the live chat is where it's at 😂.

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17 May 2017 07:59:15
Usual season ticket holders a re arranged game unable to sell there tickets shocking atmosphere which was expected . Big change scare needed just hope my ticket is cheaper once Thursday night is confirmed😩👎.

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17 May 2017 08:07:32
You and Sharpie were funny as, I was PMSL. :-)

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17 May 2017 08:20:33
Difficult to know how well the ( don't use or sell your ticket campaign) was supported and how many people just couldn't be bothered but whatever the reason for people not attending it's certainly​ a reflection of people losing interest in this current Arsenal set up.
There's​ little doubt more and more Arsenal fans have had enough but are Arsene and the board listening?
I doubt it.

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17 May 2017 09:43:42
It was a good old fashioned bit of banter. Everyone (us gooners) we're on top form lol.

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17 May 2017 11:12:39
I really don't appreciate being called funny because I'm a very serious sort. Granted you can't see my face in chat but rest assured it's always very stern.

Having said that, next season I think I'll hedge my bets and support at least two top teams in every league. one of them has got to win right? I'll finally be able to pop this 13 year old bottle of champagne.

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17 May 2017 13:02:43
My other team Chelsea has done well this year. When I go on uniteds live chat I'm a Chelsea fan 😜 And any way sharpie been from Saudi I doubt I'd be able to see your face if we were sat in the same room lol 😂.

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17 May 2017 14:06:36
Stern, I don't believe that for a minute Sharpie, I'm actually leaning towards City for my 2nd team, I think once Pep has spent another fortune then I could be onto a winner.

Only snag I see is there's no one on their banter page!

You must be chuffed with a title this season Sanogo, was it an unexpected bonus after last season or were they only your 2nd team as of last week?

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17 May 2017 14:20:44
Stoner my second team changes from week to week when I go trolling round other teams live chat I pick an appropriate second team to have the most leverage in banter. Thankfully it's not as common in England as it is in Scotland and Ireland where having a second English team appears to be the norm. You know the plastic made in Taiwan fan 😂.

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17 May 2017 18:42:51
"And any way sharpie been from Saudi I doubt I'd be able to see your face if we were sat in the same room lol"

Are you suggesting you want to be in a dark room with me?

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17 May 2017 14:44:29
Given that city fans pride themselves on been local I can only presume that broadband hasn't yet arrived in Manchester. Best get down with the united kids stoner because the vast majority are from china.

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17 May 2017 21:36:02
Sharpie I'd be in any room with you pal. It would be a good laugh mate and a day to remember. Me drinking and you not lol 😂😂.

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18 May 2017 10:31:28
Is this what Yorkshire hospitality has come to? I don't even get offered a drink? Are you sure you're not Scottish?

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18 May 2017 16:12:19
Sorry sharpie Yorkshire men are very hospitable I just didn't want you to get shot.

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