Arsenal Banter Archive May 17 2018

17 May 2018 21:36:14
Arsenal have spoken to arteta today apparently and henry next week apparently, according to henrys boss sky. Which one would the fans prefer? . i'm not saying because i have made my views well clear.

17 May 2018 23:10:16
Arteta. As much as henry was a great player, he doesn't strike me as a great coach. Being a great player doesn't necessarily mean you will be a great coach. Remember maradona with argentina in 2010 world cup?

{Ed0333's Note - remember Dalglish at Liverpool in 1985?

17 May 2018 23:34:09
there are exceptions of course. The best example of a great player who became a great coach is cryuff. My argument is just because a player x was a great player doesn't necessarily mean he would becomes a great coach and just because player y was average as a player doesn't mean he will also become an average coach.

17 May 2018 23:40:37
I don't want any ex players anywhere near the club, unless as a Number 2 role or coaching the youngsters.

Get Ancelotti in.

18 May 2018 08:48:13
For every Dalglish success story there is 100 Graham Sourness stories, Shearer Ardilas Hoddle off the top of my head.
Personally I'd rather we bring in fresh blood from outside with fresh ideas and experience but I'm open to supporting who ever comes in even Brendan should it happen.

17 May 2018 20:57:12
From my point of view, considering ex players, arteta henry vierra and any other would for me be a punt to put it mildly. A total shot in the dark and totally irresponsible, how ever i used to worship them or not, would be totally irrelevant, sentiment doesn't play a part. I will never change my mind with this initial appointment, whoever it is, has to have top level experience and if we need one of our heroes to cut his teeth under that person then great but we should not play russian roulette with a shot in the dark. If this club wants arteta get him a mentor or let him run the under 18s.

{Ed025's Note - im with you steve..

17 May 2018 16:43:15
Hello eds and fellow gooners, the daily mail is now suggesting that henry will meet Arsenal representatives for an interview, is it usual speculation or do you see any substantial truth in it? Do you see him as one of the candidates? And also now that SM is scouting players, is sokratis an option? Thankyou for the brilliant work.
COYG.

17 May 2018 16:57:59
They rang Viera so who knows.

17 May 2018 17:01:23
All we are reading is rookie ex players, arteta, vierra (albeit token gesture) and henry. No smoke without fire but it seems they are going for cheap rather than paying for experience. At least when the guy is appointed everyone will know what the ambition is. Although according to gazidis, we are looking and searching hard for the right man for the job.

17 May 2018 17:38:43
Steve would I be right in thinking you are missing Arsene a little and feeling a little lost without the campaign to get him out :-)

17 May 2018 18:00:02
I’m seriously hoping it’s nothing like that steve.

17 May 2018 18:17:04
No gunner, i just think that it obvious what we need and don't need. But i won't ever miss wenger, arteta or a n other. Its not that i think arteta may not be an inspired choice, i just think he is possibly on the face of it, the worse choice. I can't help it but i just don't see him as an arsenal manager. I could see henry or vierra or even adams, i'm sure about any of them either but i do see the passion for winning and class with them, i just don't see arteta. I don't know many who would have him as the main choice either. It just doesn't seem to fit.

17 May 2018 18:17:56
But when he wins the double next season, i may change my mind. Lol.

17 May 2018 18:21:51
Sano, so do i because we have a great chance to change things and we actually have a base to work from. We have a decent attack and atacking midfield. Unlike man u who were winning things with a fantastic manager with an aging squad.

17 May 2018 18:27:04
What two away wins in a row steve 😂.

17 May 2018 19:13:39
Well Steve it's hard not to agree with you, because Arteta never comes off as someone who would eat your head off If you weren't on his side. But my ray of light is that maybe because he's been around players like puyol, iniesta etc in his young days and has seen Guardiola, Wenger (and even Moyes, haha jk) , poch looks very impressed and a few current players (hector, Nacho) have previously said in their interview that arteta is someone who is destined to become a big manager. We can just get behind him and hope that this bold move works because in my head, Arteta is already our new manager and can't handle ozil 😶.

17 May 2018 19:23:12
I meant not sure about henry vierra or adams. I missed the not out. Lol.

17 May 2018 19:24:44
Sano, the away form was down to the poor defence. You don't win away if you aren't solid.

17 May 2018 19:57:28
Tony Adams Steve :-) have you taken leave of your senses completely man :-)
I'm not saying Artetta is the right choice but as we stand he's not anyone's choice as no one has chosen anyone yet.
Let's just wait and see because according Sky we ain't got to wait long as tomorrow is the big meeting day isn't it :-)

17 May 2018 20:36:46
Gunner, i have corrected myself, i forgot the not. My point is the other three as ex arsenal players are icons, nothing to do with their ability. We don't know any of their abilities really but i don't look at arteta in the same mould as the others and neither do most of the fans. As i have said i don't want a rookie at all, it was just where they are in afc folklore because that's all we have to go on all of them really.

17 May 2018 21:06:25
Have to agree steve. No rookie no bookie no hookie and no artettttttta!

17 May 2018 21:44:05
Gunner, the benzema transfer has juat reared its ugly head again. We have representatives talking with him now apparently. Lol.

17 May 2018 21:51:30
I agree with you Steve. To be honest all I want is the toxicity in the fanbase diminishes, it's really a sad affair. But that really gives no excuse to the owners and the board to get Arteta, surely there is a better option out there waiting to be contacted. I'm onboard with Rafa too, atleast he will be able to get some character and zest into the players. This decision is really a big one as it tests the mentality and ambition of our board. With a pragmatic approach towards our squad rebuilding, we really can do well next season.
#COYG.

18 May 2018 00:47:37
IG yes this appointment is needed to be right to get everone up and at it again.

17 May 2018 14:40:26
This whole 50 million budget I keep reading about finally makes a little sense to me now. Seeing the sports news saying we're going for socrates* seri and a couple others, does that mean Sven is head of recruitment so he'll be eyeing up targets and getting the majority done. But the 50 mil is what the manager has to identify and buy players with? To be able to put his own stamp on the team? If that makes no sense to anyone else, maybe I've got it wrong and I'll just go sit back in my box!

17 May 2018 16:02:21
No mate it makes perfect sense to me. Wether or not the rumours are true it could be how people have interpreted it or not.

17 May 2018 17:07:26
It doesn't really matter what figures we read but what figures we read in august. There will obviously be a budget, there is for everyone. We all know where we need stregthening. The name of the game next season should be to get the right man and spend the right amount to rectify the obvious weaknesses. That is the minimum this club should be doing. For me it actually looks quite straight forward. Being tight should not come in to it but being diligent should.

17 May 2018 08:48:42
Any rumours about who arteta would bring in as back room staff xavi? Inieista? Might be quite nice.

17 May 2018 09:16:38
Not sure, but I've heard his first 2 signing's are Rosicky and Diaby 😉.

17 May 2018 12:50:06
Surely Sassoon and Clarke being added to back room staff 😀COYG.

17 May 2018 12:59:11
:-) Sussex.

17 May 2018 07:13:00
For me it’s a given that Arteta is the new Manager, he ticks all the boxes for the board he’s not going to go banging on any doors demanding X Y Z

We need to get used to idea and just hope he has a lot of luck.

17 May 2018 07:47:42
Why so pessimistic mate?
It was sky who told us Higguain was a done deal and was having his Arsenal medical and that Benzema was on his way.
Cheer up it might never happen.

17 May 2018 05:17:19
Big changes appear to have begun at the club with backroom staff being released.
On the playing side reports of negotiations starting for players in much needed positions; a keeper, a pair of CB's and a DM.
Reports of Leno in goal. Two out of Sokratis Evans and Soyuncu at CB. Seri at DM.
I am pleased to hear of the attention to the CB's as we are in desperate need. Mertesacker now retired was clearly past his best and hardly played last season. Koscielny will miss most of nest season and had looked a shadow of his former best whilst playing with a chronic achilles injury. Chambers simply isn't good enough and Mustafi hasn't worked out. I would like to see us sell Chambers and Mustafi. We would then have 2 new CB's. plus talented young CB's in Mavropanos and Holding.
Arteta is due for talks tomorrow, so perhaps an announcement on Friday or shortly after.
At first I was against appointing Arteta, but with my top 2 choices Allegri and Simeone not available, there wasn't an outstanding candidate, although I am a fan of Benitez, perhaps at 58 he wasn't the man for the job. Arteta has done a fine job as assistant to Guardiola at City. If this is the appointment, let's do our part as supporters and get behind Arteta.

17 May 2018 06:58:37
Good post RG

But did pep need much assisting? With a squad like that not much coaching needed to be given lol.

17 May 2018 07:13:28
Hi Banbury. Top managers rely upon having good coaches who carry out their instructions. Arteta will have learnt a lot under two great managers Guardiola and Wenger. What is to be seen is whether he can make the transition from being a coach to becoming a manager at a big club such as ours. The infrastructure at the club is looking good, with Gazidis, Sanllehi and Mislintat to provide support to the new manager. They have cleared out many of the backroom staff to allow Arteta, if he is the new manager, to bring in his own staff. It was interesting that Lewin and Colbert have been released, they were part of the old team that were around when Arsenal suffered many injuries. Last season with medical and conditioning staff that had been brought in over the last couple of seasons, the muscular injuries and recuperation times lessened.

17 May 2018 07:58:52
Just had a look to see who says where having talks with Artetta tomorrow, seems Eds Ornstein and BBC still in the dark and only one source knows about it :-)
I wonder who else will be at the talks? Ronaldo Messi and Neymar are my guess.

17 May 2018 13:39:33
Is serri a dm i'm not convinced seems very similar to xhaka which is not a good thing to many pretty passing midfielders in the squad need a guy who will do the dirty work.

17 May 2018 19:56:47
Dont want seri we need a beast. simple as. especially if we go 2 up front which i believe we need to nx season. If there is a way we can get laca and auba working in tandem with another goal threat in left wing and ramsey get forward it could be irresistable. but they need defensive cover. ideally a destroyer with huge physicality and one that can pass with accuracy. Not many about though.

17 May 2018 03:26:06
I have been seeing a lot of debates about our next manager Arteta lol.
Well, I think the club and the board might've seen something good and worth taking the risk in for Arteta, some developments we are missing.
Not saying his my choice but If it's going to be him then that's a very very bold move.
But if he's to get the job then we have to wait and see what he's got in his locker before shouting and campaigning Arteta Out.
I believe there's ambition at the club especially with the new guys in the board as as I have been reading with are working on some decent deals.

As for the safe choices we are crying out loud for its not always a guaranteed success as it has been mentioned, like Rafa was at R Madrid and Ancelotti at Bayern.

I just hope whoever is appointed will be given at least half a season chance by the fans. As we are only good at making noise at the Emirates when we pooing our team and manager not when cheering.

17 May 2018 08:03:42
We wanted change from the groundhog years Moe and we've got it. Who ever takes over be it Artetta or whoever we have a chance of things being different from our recent past and we haven't had that for a very long time.
Next season is exciting simply because it's not a forgone conclusion it's been for so long in the past.