Arsenal Banter Archive August 18 2015

18 Aug 2015 21:18:40
Don't know what to make of united in this game. That was a massive let off and Brugge should be level that was a huge error in goal and he got up and when Brugge got possetion fell back over and got free kick . Depay looks good tho

18 Aug 2015 22:44:52
The best thing about tonights game is we weren't involved in it :-).

18 Aug 2015 23:16:39
Agree about Memphis.

He looks very good.

19 Aug 2015 01:32:35
It's only early dags but I think United have got themselves someone there

19 Aug 2015 07:42:02
Agree Browgun.

19 Aug 2015 09:38:18
Like I said before don't wright united off for the league

19 Aug 2015 12:35:59
I can safely write United off. Think they will be better than last year but they won't win the league

18 Aug 2015 18:11:22
If your in an offside position and in the opposition penalty area your interfering with play, simples.
This would clear the matter up for everyone officials fans managers pundits players alike, its clear cut and no need for the refs or anyone else's interpretation.

18 Aug 2015 19:26:07
My hat keeps getting caught offside, but, then again, it is always going on ahead

18 Aug 2015 20:27:11
The rule is stupid because off side players can draw defenders out of position and hence impact the game even if they don't then go for the ball.

18 Aug 2015 22:12:54
We can't go back to the old fashioned off is off rule because the game has evolved way beyond that now but I do think a meeting of old insde the box and new outside is a very simple and clear rule.

19 Aug 2015 01:36:06
That's it G62 offside in the box was pretty much the old rule. It needs to be kept that way imo. If the play comes from deeper and there is someone out wide no where near play fair enough. The decision at Liverpool was a joke he completely stranded the goalie

18 Aug 2015 14:04:54
Cavani is a worse finisher compared to Giroud, the only thing he'd give is a little bit more height and maybe slightly pacier, not worth it imo..

18 Aug 2015 15:35:30
Yes! I absolutely love this post, just for the amount of beef it's going to create. Long live the beef!!

18 Aug 2015 15:37:25
Mahdu he has not had the run he needed at psg. He was pushed out wide and played second fiddle to ibra. The back end of last season he was on fire . Type in on you tube and look at his goals and then get back to me

18 Aug 2015 16:35:27
Madu
First off i am a Grioud fan. however facts don't lie

Name Age Games Goals Ratio Highest total
Cavani 28 381 210 1.81 38
Ibra 34 618 340 1.81 41
Lewdanski 26 383 208 1.84 36
Benz 27 449 214 2.09 32
GIROUD 28 348 150 2.32 25

out of these striker he also has the lowest international ratio, so while i do really like Giroud and want him to battle another top striker within the club any of the above will provide really good competition and infact be an upgrade on Giroud.

But yes i bit

18 Aug 2015 17:30:28
I think if I read your post first UG I wouldn't have bothered . But you never can tell with some people

18 Aug 2015 18:15:31
Madhu, please do your homework before you inform us, we are waiting to pounce, when you get it wrong. Lol

18 Aug 2015 18:50:50
I believe he is not better than Giroud by so much that we have to spend a lot of money and go buy him. There is a reason he's played out wide instead of the aging Ibra..maybe he has a better record than Giroud, but he plays for PSG in Ligue 1. He doesn't have to play Chelsea, City, United and Liverpool every month..He won't make enough of a difference quality wise for us to spend a lot of money on him IMO. Ask any PSG fan, they like him just as much as we like Giroud.. Benzema on the other hand is totally different and miles better than both..just my opinion though..

18 Aug 2015 20:18:10
If he comes chesp then the guy is class for 1 year or so. But he's obviously seen his best days. If we can get a premium striker that is young then I would prefer that.

19 Aug 2015 01:38:04
There's a good 3/4 years in cavani . He would do we'll at arsenal. Won't happen though so let's forget about it

18 Aug 2015 11:22:22
Browgun pretty much summed up what I was trying to say in my last post, Giroud IS a very good player, but he can have a run of 3 to 4 games in which he looks world class and then he can go missing for the next 5 or 6 games.

The reason I said I hate when Giroud scores goals like that isn't because I dislike him or anything, of course I was happy for him, but when you score with a sublime finish like that, knowing Wenger in all his stubbornness, it gives him a case to put his faith in Giroud and not go out and buy the striker that could potentially win us the league.

Atherosclerosis may have needed 5 attempts to get his first goal, but the two things he did that 1) Giroud can't do and 2) Giroud is too inconsistent with is he made the chances by being able to get in behind and he hit the target forcing some fine goalkeeping from Begovic. We all know that getting in behind isn't Giroud's game and personally, I don't rate Giroud's finishing at all. I find it quite perplexing that he has the ability to put away chances like the one at the weekend and that stunner against United last season, yet you put him in one on one with the keeper or put it on a plate for him to tap it home and he won't even get it on target half the time. For his goalscoring record he has been very good value at 13m, but his conversion rate leaves a lot to be desired, though last season was an improvement on that, but he still isn't clinical enough.

With the service our midfield can provide, just imagine what a top, pacey, clinical striker would do for us. Giroud is an excellent member of the squad and I believe would chip in with more than a handful from the bench as an impact sub should we require a more physical presence, but the fact of the matter is that he just isn't good enough to lead the line for the entire season if we're to challenge for the title. We need an upgrade and there's no two ways about it.

18 Aug 2015 16:36:24
What in the he'll did auto correct change Aguero to?!

18 Aug 2015 18:04:59
I stopped reading after you said you hate when Giroud scores. I've been on here a few time saying Giroud isn't good enough but when he scored the goal againts palace i was so happy for him.

He is under huge pressure and he scored a great and important goal. If wenger is stubborn then Giroud form won't make any diffrence.

This is the closest Arsenal have been to the top clubs in europe since th stadium move. Part of the reason why it took us so long to get close to the top is wenger has panicked in the past. Benayoun, squillachi, silvestre, kallstrom.. the list goes on.

I have no doubt wenger wants a cf and if he doesn't sign one in the window its not because he thinks Giroud will win us the leauge. He doesn't want to sign any more dross the ozil, sanchez and cech signing are proof of that. But top player at top clubs are difficult to sign. Why would real sell thier only cf without a replacement?

If you want players to underperform so the managers spends money then Liverpool might the club for you..

18 Aug 2015 18:22:17
Yours must be from the same shop as me in Taiwan.

18 Aug 2015 20:50:41
What in Gods name is that CIG? Lol

19 Aug 2015 04:27:36
Do not talk ill of our lord and saviour Kim Kallstrom, Noodles

18 Aug 2015 09:21:52
Lot of chat still about Cavani 'if' we were to buy a CF then he would be my choice, a tough Souh American , tall and a good strike rate

18 Aug 2015 10:00:58
He would be my choice as well Banbury .

18 Aug 2015 10:00:58
He would be my choice as well Banbury .

18 Aug 2015 13:00:25
Blimey we agree lol :)

He is quality and be a right handful for defences

18 Aug 2015 09:00:45
What would you guys think of stootman to challenge le coq as cdm I like him and think he wouldn't cost to much

18 Aug 2015 09:15:31
Yeah he would be good if he stayed fit!

18 Aug 2015 09:38:13
Good player , a no nonsense style of play.

Are Roma selling him?

18 Aug 2015 10:00:50
strootman would be perfect. shame about his acl injury

dont expect to see him back fully fit till next year

18 Aug 2015 11:43:18
Was a good buy for Roma when he joined from PSV.
I doubt they'd sell him cheap, he's not really a DM and his injury record is terrible....so if you rule out the first part he's got Arsenal midfielder written all over him.

18 Aug 2015 10:00:50
strootman would be perfect. shame about his acl injury

dont expect to see him back fully fit till next year

18 Aug 2015 17:17:52
Glad you guys knew I meant strootman lol

17 Aug 2015 23:57:52
Is it normal for a manager and a referee to "agree that another foul and Coquelin is off ' ?
Am I the only one who feels very uncomfortable that a manager admits to putting severe pressure on a referee at half time and admits to actually trying to get a player sent off?
????????

{Ed025's Note - i agree garry, a manager discussing an opponents player at half time is just wrong..

18 Aug 2015 00:11:19
Tell me a managet who doesn't put pressure on refs. They all do to different degrees.

{Ed025's Note - having discussions at half time, and telling the ref that if le coq commits one more foul that he should send him off?????..come on steve that cant be right mate, i know you like to play devils advocate at times but that is just bordering on the ridiculous..

18 Aug 2015 00:15:00
Any manager should not be allowed to confront a ref until final whistle blows.

18 Aug 2015 02:13:13
Either way the ref fed pardew with a load of BS and then obviously told mert to tell wenger to sub him off. Pardew just showed that refs won't take him seriously it's not as if it was wenger or mourinho because they would have got their own way. It does make a difference if your a top four club. Like it or loath it

18 Aug 2015 00:48:44
Ed with all due respect, people are being very naive if they think managers don't confront refs and tell them their job. I ain't defending it but its fact.

{Ed025's Note - they certainly do steve but this seemed more than that, to discuss a player and dictate to a ref what his actions should be is wrong, i blame the ref to be honest not pardew mate..

18 Aug 2015 09:04:35
SAF was superb at it .

The ref was spineless IMO and shouldn't have got into a conversation with Pardew

18 Aug 2015 09:17:31
It was very naive of pardew to openly talk about it

18 Aug 2015 10:28:15
If they agreed at the next foul he's sent off,then why did he get another foul,before being substituted? This is a nothing debate for me,managers and players constantly harrass refs going into the tunnel,Wenger has done it countless times when I've watched,particularly when he feels other teams are booting you off the field,like he used to complain about several years ago. Fact is regardless of the convo,coquelin got away with anoter foul, didn't get sent off and thus it had no impact on the game,the ref ignored Pards.

18 Aug 2015 18:13:47
On the contrary i'm always positive. didn't you lot do science. Two Negatives = a positive.