Arsenal Banter Archive August 18 2018

 

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18 Aug 2018 22:31:07
A lot of positives to take from our match and a few worries.

To the positives, i liked our performance in the first half. Guendouzi, mkhi, torreira and cech did well. i also liked that Emery is not loyal to any player. The untouchables under wenger either got benched or were substituted.

My biggest worry is that physically we dropped off in the second half. I think it is due to the fact that we pressed a relentlessly. I think Emery needs to work on that. If you press a lot and then don't take advanatage of the chances you create, it bites you in the ass eventually.

The entire backline needs replacing at Arsenal. Monreal is the only decent player. The rest are terrible. We also need a couple of wingers. Arsenal lost to chelsea today not because of emery's tactics but because chelsea have better players. It is that simple. The board has to back him in the transfer market.

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18 Aug 2018 23:04:43
Yeah for sure it going to take a couple of transfer windows at least for Emery to get the sqaud he wants, he is still in the learning phase this early on finding out about the players.

Wenger left him with such unbalanced squad with far to many central Attacking midfielders with nobody that is comfortable out wide so we need a couple of more natural wide players and for me another DM. Mustafi, Bellerin and Xhaka are clearly not good enough and if you going to play such a high line you have to have real pace at the back, so we need a pacy CB as you can't be sure Kos has got much left in him now.

Torriera and Guendouzi both look to be decent buys and we certainly have plenty of goals in us with Aubu and Lacazette. It is just going to take time to get that balance between attack and defence right. On another day we could have scored 5 today in the first half with the very good chances we had. I think about 10 or so games in we will see the side take shape a bit more into Emery's way.

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19 Aug 2018 03:16:24
After the last few seasons and a new manager with totally different ideas, did anyone really expect to beat citeh and chelski away in the first two games. Anyone who knows about football, will accept the enormity of the task and accept we are not gate crashing the top four this season. My prediction of 5th and the europa league would still be a great season. To me that is still the realistic aim. Feet on the ground lad, wenger left us a right shower of sh.

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19 Aug 2018 08:25:39
Problem is, is he going to be able to fix it? Pep struggled his first year, didn't have the players so spent £300 odd million, no way emery getting close to that backing! 😂.

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19 Aug 2018 11:17:08
True Eden mate but I don't think most of us expect Dick to emulate Pep but to just make us competitive again, becoming the invincibles part two or getting 100 points in a season isn't likely to happen but
If under Emery we go to old Trafford City Chelsea Liverpool Spurs and are involved in 50/ 50 battles where only 1 goal separates the teams either way I think most of us would be happy.
Imagine being really excited rather than half frightened going to those grounds again where it's just to tight to call the result either way :-)
I'd be more than happy with that.

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19 Aug 2018 12:09:44
I do actually think some players are now being exposed for the frauds they are and i aso think given time Dick will make us competative again against the top teams. Wenger has taken us on a journey, which took us to 10 years behind in football terms, that will take time sorting. All we aee seeing is Dick trying to slowly sort out the crap that wenger left. If people can't realise, its not going to be easy sorting out the rank players and the cozy mentality, then they are fools, misled or blind. It will take time, all ready (all be it slighty headless) players are starting to put more effort in. No one is more frustrated than me but i know the dross that was left behind and the massive job, it won't happen over night.

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19 Aug 2018 17:32:18
Oh yes I wasn't expecting dick to emulate pep, with the budget he's got if he gets anywhere close with what 1/ 6 of the budget then he's incredible! But we have no hope of competing if he's only going to get £50 mil a year when realistically we need far more spent than city did to fix.

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18 Aug 2018 20:54:46
I think Arsenal are taking a lot of unfair criticism from the media. Seriously you have only lost to Man City (best team in league) and at Chelsea away, arguably two very tough fixtures.

However, it's been made to look like you have lost to Yeovil or Shrewsbury Town etc. At the moment, all the focus is on Arsenals incompetence rather than their good play or their opposition team having world class players. Today Arsenal could have scored a few more goals and last week you could have scored a couple against Man City. Even if they did the media would still be dishing out criticism.

As a Chelsea fan I will say today we were brilliant offensively, the best i have seen in a long time, Morata, Hazard, Pedro, Willian, Barkley, Jorginho, Kovacic and Alonso played so well. However, it's not about our brilliance, the blame is Arsenals tactics as usual. What Hazard did when he came on is what he does to every premiership defender, however the rest don't get criticised as much.

Personally, Unai has impressed me with what he has done. Ignore the persons, back the team, confidence is key and the media is shooting it down but keep going!

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18 Aug 2018 21:14:37
We are no better than last year worse in my eyes.

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18 Aug 2018 21:27:12
U could and should have been 4 or 5 2 up at half time . Both teams have new managers and in same position of changing the way they play, will take a long time. Be patient hopefully by the 2nd half of the season both teams will be challenging for top 4.

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18 Aug 2018 21:48:18
I didn't expect us to make top 4 before the season started Sid and nothing that's happened so far has changed my mind, top 6 minimum and 10+ more points and lot less goals conceded is my target for this season. Foundations need laying this season for future success.

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18 Aug 2018 22:08:52
It’s a typical over reaction. The second half concerned me more than the first believe it or not, as pointed out above! We missed three tap ins. The defensive concentration lapses are there still. I think we just need to settle down a bit and go on a run and beat the teams we should over the next few weeks.

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18 Aug 2018 23:05:01
Overaction hahahahah good one.

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19 Aug 2018 00:05:04
Well if you want to wallow crybaby crack on!

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19 Aug 2018 00:29:18
Wow crybaby the man has been in charge for something like 8 weeks and the man before him was there for 22 years what exactly do you expect he is not a miracle worker we need some perspective.

Yes defensively nothing has changed but it will prob be mid season if ever emery can turn the players he has in the back in to a solid back four cause let's be honest mustafi has never been good enough for us and bellerin is regressing faster than my hairline.

We just need to let him get on with it support the team like mad and after two or three windows if we keep making the same mistakes then fine start criticising but Jesus klopp and pottechino is getting less stick than emery right now and they have had there job a lot longer and won the same as emery has in his 2 games Sweet F all.

And I know Chelsea have a new manager and they still won but let's be honest they change managers every few years the club is run that way we had someone run the club from top to bottom for 22 years just leave it's a whole different situation.

Let's give emery time he will need it. COYG.

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19 Aug 2018 11:15:18
How pleased are you that we lost to chelsea crybaby. Pathetic
Its Emery’s fault that Auba missed two sitters as well as Micki. Yes our players are at fault but they also need to adopt to a new system after so many years playing the same rythme.

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{Ed025's Note - i just dont know what some supporters expect moe, rome was not built in a day...but maybe it would have been if guys like crybaby was on the job..

19 Aug 2018 12:06:02
Ed25, it really makes you wonder how many of Football supporters actually know about football, these video games are making people think they know more about managing a team than qualified coaches do.
We all know arsene left arsenal in a bad shape especially defensively.

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{Ed025's Note - its these microwave supporters moe wanting instant results, you and me know it just does not work that way mate and emery will need to be given time, i believe he is the right man and your start was a really tough one which has not helped but the supporters need to show patience and back the guy..

20 Aug 2018 21:13:22
Moe would it have been wengers fault if he had missed the two sitters I would have like to have seen you inpot if it was last year.

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20 Aug 2018 21:13:53
And why would I be pleased we lost 😩.

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18 Aug 2018 20:32:11
Take Bellerin and xhaka out of those two games and we don't have 0 points. Both pathetic.

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18 Aug 2018 21:04:19
If Xhaka plays v West ham then I fail to see where we are going under Dick.
The last two games won't decide our season but keep playing players who don't turn up will from now until May.
Why Xhaka and not Elneny until Torreira is ready to start is beyond me.

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18 Aug 2018 22:33:37
i think Xhaka has already lost his position. my worry is the defence. Sincerely both sokratis and mustafi are shocking. i wouldn't mind playing the greek kid.

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18 Aug 2018 22:59:22
For me it is too early to form a critical opinion of Emery. There were positives today in that we created chances albeit against a poor Chelsea defence. Emery’s ability to make changes when things were not going right were encouraging as AW seldom did this. We need Torreira match fit and starting alongside Guendouzi asap.
Defensively we are as poor as last season. The lack of pace in the center is concerning and especially when playing a high line like they did today. Mustafi is dominated far too easily and is positionally very poor. Again we are very exposed down our right side. Bellerin and Mkhitaryan are defensively weak and worse together. I would rather see Lichtsteiner start and first and foremost help make us a better defensive unit. We have not addressed our central defence and this needs to be a priority in January unless Mavropanos has stepped up and Kos comes back 3 yrs younger. Hopefully when Torreira is starting regularly he helps provide some extra cover for the back 4 and allows the attacking 4 or 5 to do their stuff.

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18 Aug 2018 23:41:39
So - why did Emery have us playing such a high line and Sokratis is his signing. Very slow brut if you ask me. He could and should have signed more players.

He is also insisting Cech plays from the back - disaster.

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18 Aug 2018 19:47:02
Couple of good big calls from Emery :

1. Dropped Rambo despite contract situation
2. Subbed Xhaka at halftime
3. Stuck with Guendouzi who was excellent today
4. Subbed Özil who is struggling this season. Possibly could have done this sooner though

Poor stuff

Defence - highline with no pace. Fullbacks leaving two slow centre backs on their own.

Very disappointed in what Emery is p@ssing about at in the back 4

Encouraged by what he's doing in midfield

Unsure what he's doing up front

Disappointed with tactics, energy, organisational play and basic tactics

Early days but hoped for better early signs - main highlight is Guendouzi but was that Emery or the talent spotters.

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18 Aug 2018 20:02:11
Yeah still early days like you say good that Emery is not afraid to make early changes Changing Torrira for Xakha certianly helped us more in 2nd half. I fail to see what Xhaka actually does to contribute. I think Emery will Learn that you can't have both Miki and Ozil start without us being overrun in the midfield defensivly.

I think you need to pick one or the other as a number 10 behind both Lacazette and Aubu. Our backline was way too high today and with Mustafi and Sokrtais not being the quickest you are asking for trouble really. Guendouzi had another good game. Plenty of work for Emery to do and hopefully come the Janaury transfer window a couple of buys.

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18 Aug 2018 20:03:54
Extremely disappointed in Dick for playing Xhaka again, he was voted worst player on the pitch v city last week and repeated that achievement again today in cross section vote of Arsenal Chelsea and neutral fans.
I always knew we might have to go through a few managers before we found the manager who would make us a force again but hoped and still hope that in Dick we might get it right first time but Xhaka and Iwobi? I genuinely thought only Arsene could see anything in them but somehow we might just have found another.
Obviously it's far to early to judge Dick fairly but I personally have gone from very excited about him to very worried about him, hopefully the next few weeks will ease my mind and we won't see Xhaka during those weeks.

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18 Aug 2018 20:20:09
This is worrying :

Alexi Iwobi confessed Arsenal players ‘weren’t sure what they were supposed to be doing’ during a chaotic first half against Chelsea.

We need to play to our players strengths - Cech can’t play the ball out, our defence has zero pace, Bellerin can’t cross. Emery must adapt while he makes changes to the squad.

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18 Aug 2018 20:24:44
Yes it’s early days BUT

We just played M City ( who I think will win the league ) and Chelsea away . I would say a superb return going on recent years would have been 2 points . They were always going to be potential defeats .

Coupled with a new manager, new ideas, he’s still trying to work out his best XI, I think he has a better idea today .

Things “should” get a tad easier from now .

Time is most definitely needed.

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18 Aug 2018 20:40:23
100% agree time is needed Banbury mate but so is common sense from Dick too mate, playing Xhaka and Iwobi today did his credibility among most Arsenal fans few favours, especially Xhaka mate he offers nothing to the team in any way.
Lose trying new can have its upside but to simply repeat what everyone already learned under Arsene about Xhaka is crazy especially after his performance against City.

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18 Aug 2018 21:03:51
All fans can be managers mate, he sees these players day in day out, a poor 90 minutes against M City isn’t uncommon no matter who you are .

Let’s see where we are by the end of September in terms of selection.

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18 Aug 2018 21:20:37
Fair comment mate I've always said we hace to wait until October before we can form any kind of opinion on Dick but two years of Xhaka not turning up has to be enough no matter if he's Pele Maradona Messi Ronaldo all rolled into one on the training pitch, on match days he does more for the opposition than us most weeks and his best games are when he has no effect the results are all .

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18 Aug 2018 22:38:43
Gunner62,the kind of system emery wants to play requires wingers who can run at defences and make the pitch big hence iwobi being on the pitch. The problem is that we do not have wingers never mind good ones. Iwobi is the only wingers. Mkhi and ozil are number 10s. It is shocking that we went from Pires to iwobi. I was really surprised why we didn't sign lozano or malcom or even pavon. we are desperate for wingers.

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18 Aug 2018 22:55:49
There are certain teams you don’t play that high line against and you definitely don’t knock it arround at the back. Unfortunately you have already done it against 2 of them, the good news is you don’t play liverpool till November as they would run riot right now. I think Emery will get the team playing well eventually you look pretty good going forward so if he can sort it out at the other end you will be fighting Unt and spurs for 4th, 5th and 6th.

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18 Aug 2018 23:44:51
We never really had too much problem attacking - it was balancing attack and defence

Why doesn’t he change tactics until he has the players - he’s putting us under so much pressure by playing from the back and splitting the two centrehalves. Crazy

He inherited a bad defence and good attack.

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18 Aug 2018 18:25:13
Crazy first half 2-2, Defensivly all over the shop but we keep getting in behind to create chances with in the box and could have easily been ahed as had the better chances. Torreria needs to come on for Xhaka and Bring Lacazette on for Miki or Ozil. I don't think you can have both Miki and Ozil play without being to exposed in the midfield as they are never going to both get back in shape quick enough.

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18 Aug 2018 18:42:50
Well Dick looked out for the count but somehow he's back on his feet ( I'm not quite sure how)
He needs to use his time in his corner to sort himself out big style because he won't survive in the premier league long swinging wild windmill punches and putting and no defensive savy.
He is looking more like Dick Turnip that Dick Whittington by sticking by Xhaka who is more of a cart horse than a hansom steed like black Bess :-)

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18 Aug 2018 20:36:24
Tick tock for Richy Paper.

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18 Aug 2018 17:52:56
Still playing a high one with zero pace - simp, e bloody ball over the top. Do we have a new manager or is Wenger still controlling things 👎👎👎👎.

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18 Aug 2018 18:45:46
Mate if it wasn't too far fetched to believe I'd say yes Arsene is still in charge and Dick is just a figure head to stave off the madding crowd.
They wouldn't do that, would they?

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18 Aug 2018 19:02:41
Mulder is on the case.

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18 Aug 2018 17:51:29
Absolutely desperate, get Torreira and Ramsey on now. Get Iwobi and Ozil off.

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18 Aug 2018 17:49:12
rubbish goal thanks give away and put us under pressure for 80 mins 👎.

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18 Aug 2018 16:31:51
Xhaka starts, disappointing XI.

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18 Aug 2018 16:37:12
I don't get the line up. Hope I'm wrong.
Ozil, Mkhitaryan and Iwobi!
Lacazette, Torreira and Ramsey on the bench!
Shocking.
All credit to Energy if he has got this one right!

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18 Aug 2018 16:42:39
Very strange Banbury! going to be hell if this goes wrong now . But let’s go with it and see 💪🏻 COYG.

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18 Aug 2018 16:45:24
5 much needed signings and only two start today!

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18 Aug 2018 17:03:59
4 4 2 with PEA and Ozil up front? Iwobi does a little more tracking back so may be that’s the difference plus Rambo was lost last game

At least we have some changes - Nacho left back and Iwobi in to increase work rate

Glad Matteo kept his spot - that’s a plus. Torriera clearly isn’t ready yet after the World Cup.

COYG.

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18 Aug 2018 17:17:28
Iwobi and Xhaka were two players Arsene struck by but who repeatedly make Arsene look silly for doing with their consistently totally non existent performances.
It's up to Dick what he does but he has used up his honeymoon period free pass all in one go today unless they both produce like never before AND we get a result.
Unnecessary high risk strategy playing these two and one that has to come off for Emery not to be under pressure from all angles by 7.30pm
He could have lost without them and been ok still so it's either a very brave or very silly thing to do playing them and it needs to come off for him big style.

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18 Aug 2018 17:30:30
agree with that g62, looks like he's just carrying on where wenger left off, seems a wild risk to take.

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18 Aug 2018 17:56:51
I don't think you can have Ozil and Miki in the same side without having 2 DM's as they are never going to get back in shape defenivly quick enough. Xhaka offers nothing But I guess Torreira is just not quite ready yet to start. Same issues with fullbacks being asked to much ground with no protection.

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18 Aug 2018 10:45:25
Iam expecting nothing but a win today if not then our manager isn’t good enough and so are the players.

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18 Aug 2018 11:48:34
You are nothing but a troll who should be blocked from posting on here.

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18 Aug 2018 12:19:40
What an person.

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18 Aug 2018 12:55:15
Constant improvement on last year and each game - that’s what I expect plus to see the side morph into emery’s Dude sooner rather than later

To start competing in every game - Home and Away

To gain a sense of hope and direction

Think that’s fair.

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18 Aug 2018 14:18:08
To be fair even in the game against city we were better than the times we played them last year! Last year in head to heads we had the better of chelski so I’m expecting something out of this game. I guess your called crybaby for a reason! But each to their own.

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18 Aug 2018 16:23:22
Crybaby you clearly have no idea about football

Remind me why you are here?

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18 Aug 2018 09:56:37
How would people feel about a move for Marchissio or Yaya? Bit if experiance in the middle. both still quality but would need replacing after 70 minutes, somebody in the team to help guide Goundouzi and amn.

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18 Aug 2018 11:14:22
Two problems with Yaya
1 huge wages
2 if you don't get him the right birthday cake he can be a negative influence to have around.

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18 Aug 2018 15:08:06
I think his agent said at the end of last season, he wanted to stay in the Premier league and he would play for a quid at a top 6 side to get one over on guardiola, obviously he wouldn't actually do that, but he might be prepared to work for a fair wage and make sure we book Mr kippling well in advance 😊.

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18 Aug 2018 09:11:36
Those who weren't happy about getting beaten by last seasons runaway champions last week ain't going to accept defeat gracefully today should it happen are they.
The Dick out campaign could well anf truly be up and running this evening :-)

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18 Aug 2018 09:53:00
I’m interested if he goes with xhaka. He’s already stated that cech will start, but surely after xhakas performance last week he gets dropped to the bench.

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18 Aug 2018 09:53:55
62 - he’s got time on his side but I have the same expectations or even higher than last season as we have a new “super” tactician who has done a full breakdown of our side and is prepared to change tactics based on opponents. He knows our weaknesses also.
He’s not turned the club upside down so I expect h to improve us. I am always annoyed when we play poorly and often if we are beaten.
We were well beaten at home with no real fight or answers. So I was annoyed
Let’s see but he’s not on a free pass but he has time.

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18 Aug 2018 10:44:42
Gunner 62 if we lose today I’ll be one of them because I haven’t seen any change, if Wenger lost to city and Chelsea in 2 weeks all hell would break loose, I watched all pre season and we still play the same crap football, last week was embarrassing the way we were playing form the back reminded me of teaching kids football and nobody was listening it was cringey.

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18 Aug 2018 11:02:25
Cry baby I had you in mind when I wrote the post mate
Not being funny but how disappointed will you be if we beat Chelsea today mate?
How gutting will it be for you personally if all of a sudden everything is buzzing at Arsenal in Arsenes absence mate?
My guess is if your truthful us beating Chelsea today would be a major setback for you personally.

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18 Aug 2018 11:35:02
I would love it if we stuffed them and happy for us, Emery and the team ( that’s us ) .

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18 Aug 2018 12:21:56
Gunner some people sometimes don't deserve a reply. There is opinion and there is idiocy.

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Premier League Previews 18 August 2018

18 Aug 2018 08:47:45
{Ed's Note - Reid the Red has posted a new article entitled, Premier League Previews 18 August 2018

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Review Of The Day 18th August 2018

18 Aug 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 18th August 2018

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18 Aug 2018 10:02:08
Real like many other organisations and people with far to much power they think rules only apply to others.
They are used to getting all their own way and probably will this time too.
It's with fifa and uafa where the responsibility lays but they are far more likely to take on Reading for not having the required size of magic sponge in the medical bag than take on Real over anything important.

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18 Aug 2018 06:54:05
Another tough match today and patience is vital whilst Emery instils his methods into the team, improves the players fitness and integrates the 5 new players into the squad.
I believe we will start to see the team settle into the new methods after the international break.
It is pleasing to see the squad changing with 5 new players brought in and players moved on that were simply not good enough: Ospina, Chambers, Campbell, Bielik, Akpom and Perez.
I believe Jenkinson will be moved on during the next window when he is fit and reports that Emery will let Welbeck move if someone comes in for him before the window shuts in countries where it is still open.
I believe we have a problem of too many 'luxury' players, which don't fit into Emery's high energy pressing game: Ozil, Mkhitaryan and Iwobi come to mind. I believe once the squad is match fit we will only see one luxury player, who will also have to work hard. I can't see all three players being at the club at the start of next season. I wouldn't be surprised if only one of the three start today. Possible team for today:
Cech
Bellerin Mustafi Sokratis Lichtsteiner
Guendouzi Torreira Xhaka
Ramsey Aubameyang Mkhitaryan

I don't believe Emery will start Monreal, he may possibly be on the bench. He may well start Xhaka despite fans reservations and I doubt he will start wil Aubameyang and Lacazette. He may well start with Ozil instead of Mkhitaryan.

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18 Aug 2018 09:48:27
Didn’t they just give Iwobi and Chambers new contracts?

If we have the “wrong” players for his strategy - why didn’t he do something about it

If we have the wrong players - adjust your strategy as he’s a tactics guy after all

I will give him time but he already has a lot of questions to answer.

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18 Aug 2018 10:46:43
Ramsey was vastly ineffective in that position last week.
I'd rather he plays where you've put Xhaka, Ozil to come in for Xhaka, I think Ozil will have a good game today, so will Mkhitaryan. *fingers crossed*.

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