Arsenal Banter Archive December 18 2012

18 Dec 2012 23:12:56
Henry is unlikely to be rejoining Arsenal in January according to the Metro and Gerard Houllier!

Quote "I am not sure both parties want to have this second comeback. I think Thierry needs rest. He is about to become a father and I think he will want to enjoy the break."

I feel he would be an unnecessary signing, especially considering we STILL have so much 'deadwood' floating around the club to rid ourselves of before we make any more additions.. I would be happy to see some players leave, e.g. Squillaci, Chamakh, even if we didn't bring any more in until the summer.

A South East Gooner.

18 Dec 2012 20:33:00
These are the players we need to replace. Anyone has any ideas when there contracts are up.

Fabianski
Santos
Squillaci
Djourou
Diaby
Rosicky
Ramsey
Arshavin
Denilson
Gervinho
Chamakh
Park
Bendtner

18 Dec 2012 23:02:35
Rosicky is ok

Not many then this will take wenger 2 3 years

I'm not sure but I think Bendtner, Denilson and Arshavin's cotracts are til 2013.

Shouldn't take Wenger 2-3 years just because there are a lot of players.

Santos - this Jan or summer
Flappy - same
Squid - same but may be running down his contract, not sure when it ends, we couldn't give him away.
Djourou- he's off soon
Diaby - might be hard, who would want him?
Rosicky - would be snapped up in no time although I want him to stay
Ramsey- staying (dammit)
Arshavin - I'm sure a deals done already
Denilson- surely will be sold in the summer
Gerv- cant see Wenger selling, wish he would, cross him off the list though no?
Chamakh - gone in Summer if not this Jan
Park - end of season
B52- end of season.

Apart from Ramsey, Rosicky and Gerv I would not expect anyone on this list to be an arsenal player by the end of August.

Metal Gooner

18 Dec 2012 17:00:19
Ed, will chamakh be off to QPR, West ham or juveuntus? Some how I don't see him at the hammers and I'm sure you are asked this a lot but what is your final verdict on whether theo is staying or going? {Ed027's Note - chamakh will be off, who knows where, i think Theo stays

18 Dec 2012 16:55:39
Forums like this make me awfully excited for the transfer window in January, but then we must think again, it's Wenger we are talking about and a lot of these rumours sound great, but realistically won't happen I'm afraid to say. If we win our next few games Wenger may feel as if the squad is already as strong as it needs to be and won't buy anyone special.

18 Dec 2012 16:34:09
It amazes me how ridiculous some people are on this website, the terms "out of favour","he wants to" and "x costs will cost this many million" get bandied around too often. If any of you had a clue about what happens in football (not saying I do) then on only very rare occasions would you actually know any of that information. On another note eds what do you think the chances are of Maicon being brought in during January to replace Sagna? He's out of favour at city, will be cheap on a short contract and i heard he does not like it in Manchester

JG

I also can't stand people using the term "out of favour".

Oh wait, you did.

Paul

Haha what?! You say all this stuff about 'put of favour' and then go on about MAICON who signed in the SUMMER who maybe just hasn't settled yet and mention it as a serious prospect? Come one, double standards or what?

Metal Gooner

Im fairly certain he was joking with the bit about Maicon.

How did no one realize he was being sarcastic? o.o

Yeah but sarcasm is meant to be delivered in a way that makes it sound like sarcasm not genuine opinion....this post failed, sorry!

Metal Gooner

Maybe your just annoyed because you didn't realise it was sarcasm, and feel a little bit silly now because everybody else did

Haha no I don't get annoyed because I miss a bit of sarcasm I get annoyed because even though English is our first language people still struggle to use basic punctuation to style their writing in a sense that conveys their meaning.

Metal Gooner

Says the person who didn't use any punctuation at all

18 Dec 2012 16:02:44
i have a bad feeling when we play wigan we wont play podolski walcott chamberlain we will play podolski giroud gervinho/ramsey that is something wenger would do and if that is the case we will loose

watford gooner

You're probably right. I cant see Wenger leaving his 2 favourites on the bench again, it may hurt their feelings. I think he needs to try the same 3 again, however i wouldnt mind seeing Giroud up front, Theo on the right and Pods on the left. Either way im happy if ramsey and gervinho r no where near th starting line up.

There will inevitably be some rotation... or would you prefer we play the exact XI throughout the christmas period so that they can all get injured...

Billybob

18 Dec 2012 16:12:34
I've noticed at the arsenal away games...there is always this one skinny middle aged man with long hair and a large nose ring in his nose....he's always in the front row...last season rvp gave him his shirt....do any of you know who this guy is??i figured someone on here might know him....i just ask because i ALWAYS see him......a loyal fan deserves some credit!!

Scooby Dooby K

It,s not malaga is it ?

Bully

I think his nickname is Bully, don't know his real name or him personally, but I sat in the seat behind him once and we spoke for a bit seemed a nice guy. His middle name is actually Arsenal he legally changed it to that. Saw an interview with him on a website, and I think he is one of the fans who had their picture hanging by the entrance to the stadium for the 125th anniversary thing. He regularly gives interviews to arsenalfantv.

Haha yeah seen him loads of times! No idea who he is but fair play we can't be the only people noticing him. He probably gets stopped in the street:

'Oh my god - you're that Fan!! OMG OMG OMG can you sign this?' haha

Metal Gooner

18 Dec 2012 14:45:03
If you could pick 4 realistic enough players to buy from the Premier League, who would they be?

I'd pick:

Hatem Ben Arfa
Raheem Sterling
Leighton Baines
Edin Dzeko

15-25 mil signings who could all shine at Arsenal.

Nick.

Would pick none of these

Only a blind man wouldn't have Ben Arfa - everyone in the world calls him an exceptional talent, every paper, every pundit, every manager, but some guy on an arsenal rumour site doesn't think he's good enough? Pretty sure he's only 23 as well.

RVP
Kompany
Mata
Yaya Toure

Yeah maybe they are some great players there, but when it comes down too it, the question is whether they would fit in with the style of football we play. I only say this because I can't quite comprehend Dzeko at Arsenal for some reason.

18 Dec 2012 23:03:31
Hatem Ben Arfa
Michu (getting spain call up)
Fellaini
Demba Ba

I'd take
- Al-Habsi
- Dawson
- Cisse from Newcastle
- Felliani

18 Dec 2012 13:20:10
Great result last night. Personally I think Wenger should not be sacked but if we keep spending nothing and winning no silverware then over the next few seasons he should do the right and dignified thing to leave. For him to win a trophy with arsenal over the next couple of seasons would be a dream, I hope that will happen before he does depart.. In Wenger we trust!

18 Dec 2012 12:18:15
Wenger has finally admitted he has been restricted in the transfer market. There you have it. Blame the board, not AW.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - Please don't tell half a story just to agitate matters Syd.}

Sydney strikes as the type that pulls hair during a fight.
Also that crap you said about Judas saying he has come home was fabricated, yet you sucked it up and couldn't wait to put it up on this page. How old are you! My guess is your a thirteen year old Tom boy, that's what I once read on here so it must be true right Syd!
Ezdee {Ed007's Note - I can arrange a date for you if you want.}

18 Dec 2012 14:57:52
So it's a kinda boy crush on Cleverley is it Sydney!

Stoner

Ez, I have never pulled on hair, but I have pulled on ears and ''other'' areas. To be honest fighting is very tiring so I tend to look for a weapon to quicken things up. Well I did do before I had my children. I did post the RvP quote or fabricated quote, it's called banter my friend and believe it or not we are in a banter page. I am 28 and of course male, if you still want that date I will leave my details with Ed007 ;)

But to be fair I did not mean to banter with my OP. Just think the criticism of AW is unfair.

Sydney!

All I can say Sydney is........






Ner nicky ner ner!

Stoner, I prefer Smalling and Jones, but do believe Clevz will be a very good player in the near future.

Sydney!

Ed002, I was defending AW, not trying to agitate Arsenal fans. I think what he has done on a shoestring budget is pretty admirable.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - The first sentence needed expanding to state what Wenger explained to be the reason for the constraints. The second sentence is entirely unecessary and seedmingly there as an attempt at agitating the locals. And it was a poor attempt at that.}

18 dec 2012 11:31:14
spain is bankrupt,its nearly on its knees!!

barcelona announce it has given new contracts to 3 of its star players.

arsenal have vasts amounts of cash reserves and new sponsorship deals and we cant agree a lousy £100k a week for theo
walcott?

nb52 has been in england to have an operation on an injury being carried out by an arsenal consultant.he earned £52k a week for being on loan for the last 2 seasons.
i bet we were offered £4-5 mill over the last 3 years and we refused the fee?
good players get £100k a week,theo is proving to be a good player.

walcott will be worth more to the club on a 5 year contract than a 6 month 1.
even if you sell him a year down the line he will be worth around £25 mill.

this will show me if the club is being run properly,walcott new deal is a no brainer!

sy4 sorry if i took too long to get back to you but i was at a xmas party last night and got pissed and stoned and have a big head today:))

it was a good result,we played the worse team in the pl. i expected nothing more after the bradford result.
it just showed us all how bad wengers decisions have been over ramsey and gervinho?"did you notice that"??

stoner,
your getting the wrong impression with me,i have all ways just wanted a better quality of player at the club.
i just wanted them to take the next step in being a better club.all it ever took was for them to go out once in the 2 teams wenger has built over the last 8 years and buy those 2-3 extra players.no1 can tell me with what resources we had and a manager that has been at the club for years could of not found £50-60 million to finance this?

would we be like rangers or portmouth?

would we have broken ffp rules?

even if we used the money to keep our best players would we be a force now?

if we had won 2-3 cups we would of paid for those players or wages.

january will show us all what direction the club is going.

i do not want players like zaha unless we are adding 3 ready made players in the mold of cazorla.

we have waited long enough for players of a high caliber to be bought.
the club said we have money and reserves there is well over £140 mill there.
ast projected kitty--£70mill
emirates new deal----£75mill

there can be no excuses any more.

wenger has till january to show me what his intentions are!if he does not spend on quality he will be gone in the summer.
i have no doubt about that!
the fans will turn on wenger if we do not at least qualify for the cl.this year will be the hardest in 16 years.

wenger is stubborn he will not be pushed around and this will be his down fall.

can you see wenger spending £70-£80 in january?

metal hes never going to play 442,give up!
wenger will play the same formation as long as hes at any club!
i have no problem playing this formation as long as you have the players to do it.
stick sweinstiegher(spelling)or de rossi to the team it helps add hulk or canavni and it works.
untill wenger spends serious money on players we will never be able to play that formation,this is how top clubs play.

a big stadium should never have empty seats!
for the last couple of season i have noticed there is 3-4 thousand seats empty at most games.
this should never be happening!
they just cant be bothered any more.people use to all ways find money for football.
a stadium like ours was built to be full every game.it was suppose to be a statement to the football world that we are a big club.
we have to start this transfer window.

i want a better quality arsenal on the pitch we have went with out for too long now

merry christmas eds.

merry christmas gooners.

away for xmas so wont be given any 1 an ear ache!!

champagne charlie

18 Dec 2012 14:53:56
Charlie,

My impression of you is you genuinely love the club mate and want what we all want, the best for Arsenal. I have absolutely no problems with your opinions either.

Some times you just get so hyper and agitated that you go off at fellow gooners, I'm sure afterwards you maybe regret it but frustration at what we see wrong boils over.

So stay chilled mate and have a great christmas.

Stoner

Well Arsenal rejected a £11mil Bendtner deal with Lazio a couple of years ago

18 Dec 2012 11:21:27
I would love it if we re-signed theo played him as a striker full time and bought a good winger.

18 Dec 2012 10:58:27
Champagne Charlie,

Please tell me that was you, celebrating Theo's goal, with the long hair, bandana and nose bar.

Stoner

LMAO Stoner, I was thinking the exact same thing!
Ezdee

No, it was Tony Soprano!

18 Dec 2012 15:00:04
Ezdee,

I knew somebody else had to be, what with his Morrocan smokes.

Stoner

Lol na charlie was the one in bandana when you beat barca couple years ago!

He's a loyal Gooner, seen him loads of times on away games in London and the area surrounding.

18 Dec 2012 10:42:49
Last night demonstrated that we are a team dependant on mobile attackers.

Giroud is a good plan B, but is too static. He does not draw defenders back, to open up space for our attacking midfield players to make runs and get creative.

Hopefully, Walcott stays but if not, we need an attacker of similar mold.... THIS IS NOT HUNTELAAR.

We need pace and mobility. Our goals are predominantly team goals, RVP hid this fact, but that is how Arsenal play. So everyone needs decent finishing.

Billybob

I dont think we learnt much at all last night, other than reading are going to be relegated.

AG

Also - Let's all remember the following:

When the going gets tough, the tough get going.

Well done Arsenal!

Billybob

Giroud's one of our better striking options if not the best. he's great at holding up play, not afraid to swing a foot towards goal, works hard to get the ball back and makes amazing knock-downs from anything in the air in a 5-mile radius.

from what's been seen so far, just like Arteta, Chambo, Cazorla and Podolski, he's willing to take a shot from range without feeling the compulsive need to walk the ball in.

what we need is a fast and wild striker playing off of ball from Giroud or drawing defenders out to create space. KJH might not be the best option out there, but he'll certainly do the trick. his availability in the Champions League would be a concern though.

psychocyst.

I agree with this psy... (gangnum style).

But who fits that mold and is affordable.

A cheeky loan punt on Pato?

No way are we getting the pharoh...

Billybob

Guys check out Doumbia

Metal Gooner

18 Dec 2012 10:14:22
Have been reading some really negative posts this morning, here and elsewhere. I guess people will always find a bad point to pick on.

Just wanted to say that last nights game was great to watch for anyone who loves football we could have shut up shop at 3-0 like most other teams would have, but we don't do that and I love that about Arsenal.

Most negative comments involve us letting in 2 goals, so what! I would take 5-2 in every single game.

Gibbs made a very un-charactoristic mistake for one of the goals, and the other goal - it happens.

I would much prefer that formation last night and score loads, even if it means we let in a few, have'nt checked today but I think we still have 'one of' the best defensive records in the league?

Anyway, really enjoyed last nights game and all the Doom & Gloom merchants need to get their heads out of their A*ses, we need 2 or 3 additions and 4 or 5 to leave and all will be good.

COYG

337

18 Dec 2012 10:08:38
We need to keep Wenger, get David Dein back and throw out 'silent' Stan and get Usmanov in and then we can compete with bigger clubs with our players but still be rich enough

Little Gooner

I agree with Dein, but swopping Kronke for Usmanov might not be positive. Kronke hasnt taken funds out of the club, nor put us into debt. He merely remains in the background. Whereas Usmanov, has only suggested that an issue for £100m be raised to provide funds to purchase players. This would mean fans financing the issue & agreeing not to charge interest. At no stage has Usmanov stated that he personally will put his hand in his pocket.

18 Dec 2012 09:00:16
I tought that was a great performance from the lads last night.

Ive saw a few people (not all on here) saying "yes but its only reading they were awful" yes they were bad but its the same team that took 2 leads over united and only lost 4-3...

Ive saw people say "yes but they didnt press you and let you play" well they pressed once and look what happened, 1 ball later theo was 1 on 1... they were petrified to press because they know 1 good pass and theos through with no way of catching him... they had to sit off and let us play..

Wenger got the tactics spot on tonight. roll on sat

COYG

18 Dec 2012 05:31:40
The goal that Theo Walcott scored just shows us why we should keep him and play him up front.

Reminded me of an Henry-like finish; class, composure, technique and an opposite foot finish if you don't mind.

Cazorla...no words. Unbelievable talent.

Podolski had a good one, but then again I can't think of anyone who had a bad game.

Nick.

Oh come on! Too many misses and one good goal. He can sprint alright, but when it's came to finishing he do it all wrong.

18 Dec 2012 04:34:04
my hope for january transfer is
1 DM: FELAINI of course
1 ST: dzeko/demba ba/hunter
1 creativ midfield: nasri back to our team

there is chance ed?

I would love to see Fellaini signed. I would also like to us sign Reina, M'Biwa, M'Vila, Zaha & Huntelaar.
In reality, one maybe two surprise signings at best.

Was fine until the NASRI bit, get down the doctors surgery and get your brain checked!

337

18 Dec 2012 03:59:08
Lets hope this will be the spark we needed! A few observations:

1. Theo lacks finishing but adds a dimension to the pace of our attack. I believe that a trio of Giroud/Podolski/Theo and (a January buy and Henry loan) would be a strong group up front.

2. A strong DM is needed. I still would prefer us to revert back to a traditional 4-4-2 with Wilshire in the middle with a traditonal strong holding midfielder, Carzola on the left and Chamberlain on the right.

3. Still one too many brain cramps from our D. We seem to inflict our own punishment with careless mistakes. Gibbs (despite Wilshire slipping) made a needless pass in the middle of the pitch that quickly ended up in the back of our goal. This is where I belive Bould needs to be given the freedom to inspire and teach.

4. Forget talk about Reina, Szczesny is the real deal, but I think this talk is more of a ploy to light a fire under the boy, I believe he has the tools to respond.

5. Arsene Wenger deserves some acknowledgement. I understand it was only Reading but 5 goals away and playing Theo upfront indicates the manager is still able to raise the level of play and acknowledge change, considering the week the club had I say good on him.

Alright, Christmas is here and tis the season for Arsenal to do well! Well played tonight boys, lets take the same enthusiasm to the next match.

Gunners4Life, In AW we trust!

1. I think we should give Walcott a few ganes to decide whether or not he can become a central striker.
2. Agree fully, I would like to see a four man midfield, as follows: Wilshere, Fellaini, Abu Diaby & Cazorla.
3. Agreed, I also believe our current formation causes such problems.
4. Szczesny is definitely a quality keeper, but lacks experience & we need two quality keepers.
5. Wenger is obviously a quality manger, but has become increasingly stubborn, in respect of zonal parking, perseverance with odd formations & the use of too many small technical players in midfield.

I would like to see us go on a run & push above the Toot & Chelsea, possibly challenge Man City for 2nd place.

Theo lacks finishing? My god, he's played one game in that position and scored one and had a hand in 2 others, he scored more goals than any other winger in the EPL last season, what has this boy got to do?

SIGN DA TING!

18 Dec 2012 00:16:56
Happy about the win but I'm still not convinced we've turned the corner. We've had results like this this season which have papered over the cracks.
I think gary neville hit the nail on the head by saying what we lack is a central midfielder willing to get in the box and score goals.
Viera, fabregas and parlour were all good at that and that is what we're lacking. Yaya Toure's form at city is another reminder of why such a midfielder is crucial.
I hope wenger listens to gary and pushes Carzola on the wing to bring Rosicky in the team. Maybe I'm being pessimistic but I dont think playing Walcott upfront is a solution to our problems, we just played a very bad side who managed to let a 4 goal lead slip last time we played them.
Eman.

Can't beat big Gazza Neville. Tank. Everyone needs to believe him. :D

Suppose Cazorla scoring a hat-trick from midfield and being our top prem scorer isnt enough for you.

We should buy,Luiz Gustavo, Javier Hernández, demba ba and a keeper problem solved.

No pleasing some people!

Midfielder who scores = Santi 3 goals

Dont play Theo through the middle = 1 goal (could have been 3 but for keeper)

Seriously, get your chin off the floor and get behind your team.

"what we lack is a central midfielder willing to get in the box and score goals."

One of our central midfielders scored a hat trick last night. The threat of Walcott's pace in behind pushed their defence back and created the space for Cazorla to advance.

Stezza.

17 Dec 2012 23:48:40
thats what happens when we dont play Ramsay and gervenio in the same team at the same time!! we cant carry both!! im gutted about rambo, really thought he was tuning into a class player, the stoke game and injury really seemed to have tailed his progress!

Ramsey played well when he came on, got stuck in and gave them fresh legs to worry about!