Arsenal Banter Archive February 18 2017

 

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18 Feb 2017 19:48:55
I just can't see Arsene Wenger leaving at the end of the season . We have no one lined up and Arsene will have a say in who comes in, that takes time . I just can't see him walking away just like that.

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18 Feb 2017 20:07:53
Banbury i'm sure that they are looking gor a replacement as we speak. They can't be 100% certain what he will do. I think the arsenal job for wenger is over, there is nothing now he can do to stabilise the fans discontent and he knows that deep down, he is stubborn but he's not stupid.

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18 Feb 2017 20:09:06
Bambam,
Nobody knows what's happening behind the scenes.

For all we know, Arsene could have made up his mind, one way or the other, and a new manager could be lined up.

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{Ed002's Note - There is no new manager lined up.}

18 Feb 2017 20:11:58
Banbury, his statement about managing next year, even if it wasn't at arsenal, proves he's acutely aware of his situation and he may not have the support he used too.

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18 Feb 2017 20:26:24
I can't believe a new Manager is lined up, I also think Wenger would announce a lot earlier if he was leaving . IMO he will be at Arsenal for another season.

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18 Feb 2017 20:27:31
I know Steve but that means nothing he won't be sacked by the club, Wenger loves the club to leave them without a manager.

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18 Feb 2017 20:35:04
He is stubborn and arrogant enough to sign that new contract and the Ed has said that no other manager has bee approached which in my book is very worrying because he really really needs to go.

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18 Feb 2017 21:35:01
Unless they are out of work currently are we allowed to tap up managers employed under contract to other clubs? I can't imagine Juventus would be happy if Ivan turned up at their training ground to start talks with Allegri?

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19 Feb 2017 06:54:26
I believe Wenger is leaving at the end of the season and he will turn up at PSG. After much thought I think it is time for a change as I don't think he is getting the best from the players who are looking increasingly disheartened. I hope we pick a manager capable of taking us on from where we currently are.

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19 Feb 2017 09:05:31
If he goes psg i'd take there manager.

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19 Feb 2017 10:22:30
Arsene is like a punch drunk boxer who just can't see when he's beat so will carry on because he truly thinks he can win the title even though he's been on the on the ropes consistently visibly becoming less and less capable of fighting back.
Eventually it will take Arsenes corner to throw the towel in the ring for him but there's no sign of them being ready to do that yet so yes I think Arsene will at Arsenal next season and for as long as his bosses can stand the criticism ot themselves and Arsene getting more and more brutal from fans and media until they themselves do the right thing for both Arsene and Arsenal.

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19 Feb 2017 11:23:23
How this site has missed your wit and wisdom gunner.

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{Ed001's Note - I bet those words have never been used to describe him before! I do agree though ste, it is good to see g62 back.}

19 Feb 2017 11:57:12
Cheers Steve and Ed001 mate :-) it's really nice to have the time to be back enjoying the site again.

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{Ed001's Note - good to see you again mate. No, honestly it is.}

19 Feb 2017 17:23:47
Thanks Ed001 you too mate.

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18 Feb 2017 19:48:44
Its all quiet on the kos front, anyone know how his injury is, he was supposed to have a scan yesterday, you would have thought if it was bad, we would have heard.

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18 Feb 2017 20:11:50
I just spoke to Malaga, he said Kos out for 6 weeks.

So, he should be back next weekend 😃.

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19 Feb 2017 10:51:52
That sounds about right dags 😂.

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18 Feb 2017 13:36:35
Stoner I'm sort of on the same page as you mate and I get the point that you could point the finger at loads of sports.
But when my subscription keeps going up year after year and it goes to pay these people ridiculous money it sort of grates me. We are all trapped in the system of paying for TV now if you want to watch decent sport. My wife hates football she would be ok with free view but I'm trapped into paying over £100 a month because I want to watch footballl. Can't be right mate that's are contributing to people getting paid 100 grand a week plus can it?

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18 Feb 2017 15:59:27
Sadly fella it is, I'm a red member and get to games when I can, I'm on the season ticket waiting list and have both the football channels so yes it costs a fortune and I count myself fortunate that I can afford it. Some guys have all that and spend close to £400 going to a game like Bayern Munich with flights and stuff.

No I don't want to pay as much but ultimately it's the cost of loving football and our club.

Your right too, the wages are ridiculous but would anyone of us turn that down if we were fortunate enough to have the talent. Yes some you watch and think jeez how did you get a contract but again it's life.

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18 Feb 2017 16:04:10
I haven't stopped going to the cinema just because the star of the movie was paid a small fortune so I can't be angry at footballers for what they earn. I do think that wages earned by the current crop are probably going to peak and players of the future may not earn quite so much, especially if a few more clubs go under. Still Lansera, you don't need to pay Sly £100 per month if your past the initial 12 month contract. Just phone them and say you want to cancel and they will offer a deal for you to stay. Go for 6 months half price as a minimum.

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18 Feb 2017 18:04:08
I now refuse to pay. After my sky contract ends in a few months I switching over to a box that lets you stream sports for a monthly fee all the games 3pm in HD.

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18 Feb 2017 19:18:52
Get a kodi box pay for decent internet and stream it all 👍.

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18 Feb 2017 19:26:02
I've got one of those as well clockend. 😂😂.

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18 Feb 2017 19:44:25
I'm with Clockend.

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18 Feb 2017 10:20:07
Here`s a question for you : to play regularly alongside Sanchez Ozil (assuming they both stay ) Welbeck Santi Kos Mustafi Hector Cech/ Ospina Coq Perez plus a selection from Ox Wally Monreal Gibbs Gabriel Giroud Ramsey etc etc as we need squad players would you allow Wenger at least another year if he was to spend £200 mill on 4 or 5 top players? Would you trust him to deliver with those players? COYG Unlikely I know but question really is would you give him that chance with the new players? Me, yes if he splashed the cash.

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18 Feb 2017 11:15:15
see this is what i can't understand about the last few windows, he's been frugal when he needed to be, saved the money so it was in the bank. why didn't he go big the season he just bought cech and liecester won the league. is he saving it so the next person has plenty to spend on who they want? if so that's going to look even worse if the next person comes in spends big and does well. or is there not actually that much to spend?

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18 Feb 2017 11:16:39
No. his time is up.

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18 Feb 2017 11:22:59
Not for me Sussex, it's too late. Also A, Wenger wouldn't spend it anyway B, based on the Mustafi and Xhaka signings I wouldn't trust his choice and C, the money would be better used to allow us to approach a wider source of replacements, as a top manager will want cash available straight away to allow them to start rebuilding the team.

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18 Feb 2017 11:48:10
No I would not trust him to spend our funds, we need a new set of eyes with no loyalty to our players.

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18 Feb 2017 12:13:32
Mainly no`s as expected. However I blame the players more than Wenger . It has been stated he has lost any ability to pick or motivate players but regardless of wages they should be self motivated and I feel 4/ 5 top quality new players of Sanchez`s work ethic and Adams` leadership would move the team forward better than replacing Wenger . The players have been woeful and soft . Still convinced with 4/ 5 top quality players we would challenge for Prem at the very least COYG.

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18 Feb 2017 13:21:36
I think we can go around in circles on this forever and there will be many that want him to stay but surely he has, since the purse strings were loosened, had £200 million to spend on top quality players.

And where are we as a result?

It truly pains me to say it but we need a new impetus, manager and direction.

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18 Feb 2017 13:27:07
I eluded to that in an earlier post! If he does stay which is apparently his decision then he would have to spend that sort of coin to stem the backlash but for me I would like allegri and him to spend 200 million.

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18 Feb 2017 13:28:36
There's no point Wenger buying any players to stay a year. Any new signings need to be done by the new manager or it will be a waste of money and the new manager will start with one hand tied behind his back.

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18 Feb 2017 18:48:41
Very much like the idea of Wenger leaving on a high but I don't see it happening. Problem is I think if he spent that level of money that summer, he still wouldn't win the title next year.

Probably not even the year after that. It's hard to dispute that Arsenal's biggest problem is the lack of leadership on the pitch and proper leaders aren't items in your average shop window.

Players like Adams or - dare I say it - John Terry are the calibre of leader we'd all like, but they're a rare breed and usually embody that leadership because they've come through the ranks at a club - not because someone forked out 60 million or so to sign them.

If anything, to improve Arsenal's prospects, I think Wenger could actually do with offloading a couple of players this summer as a means of showing he can be ruthless. It would shake things up a bit and reduce the complacency that has eaten away at us in recent years.

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18 Feb 2017 08:52:18
I am the worlds worst at moaning about the ridiculous wages players earn.
And I hate the fact that we are held to ransom by the likes of Sky etc to watch our teams play.
Someone pointed out on here about Arsenals policy of paying for a player the price he is worth. Yeah I go with that 100% all day long.
The trouble is the bar has been set so high now nobody knows what's what anymore.
How can you value a player when you have teams paying 15 million plus for the most mediocre players going.
If you were going to pay what you thought a player was worth then players like Ramsey in the premier league isn't worth a toss along with Wiltshire who's probably worth max 5 million (that's being generous ) and Ozil! well lately how much would you pay for him? They value him at £42.5 million!
Who ever they are must be having a laugh I think. 👎.

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18 Feb 2017 09:10:30
I often wonder why people get so uptight about what footballers earn. Professional sport across the globe makes multi millionaires out of F1drivers, Golfers, Boxers, Tennis players, Baseball, American Football and many more, even darts and bloody snooker!

People love sport, sport makes money and watching it makes people happy, I don't honestly care what they earn and like most would love to be doing exactly the same.

Yes it would be great if watching it was free but so it would be great if I didn't pay tax, car insurance or anything else.

Isn't it supply and demand and a huge part of the worlds population love sport.

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18 Feb 2017 09:23:36
I couldn't care less what transfer fees or wages are paid, as it is simply the marketplace and there isn't a thing I can do about it. I am pleased that Sky and BT allow me to lots of live football at acceptable prices.

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18 Feb 2017 10:50:22
You're right stoner it's just a load of socialist nonsense.

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18 Feb 2017 06:20:22
As Wenger's era comes to a close, I wonder how many people are feeling excited about the probable change at the helm? For the most, I have backed Wenger, with the odd exception when I have become frustrated at the same problems reoccurring. Thoughts fellow gooners?

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18 Feb 2017 06:11:46
People are saying let's get a top class manager in to the team next season
Errrr I would like ask this .
What team and which top manager? .
The way we have played this season we are really relying on some faith from some of our better players to stay.
Managers., Allegri. Doing well in the Italian league. ITALIAN LEAGUE? ! . My wife could manage a team in the Italian League and do well! .
Eddie Howe . That World class football manager. Is that a joke? Next Arsenal manager? come on we need a confidence boost most players in the world wouldn't know him if he passed them on the street .
Low. Which club side has he managed to success in the last few years. National team doesn't compare to club football.
Hassenhutti. Bit of a chance here! He would call up all the kids from under 16 down to under 9s and give them a run out! .
Vieira . Who's he managed lately?
Koeman .? Well! now we might be on the right track here. As long as he brings Lukaku with him who we should have bought 3 years ago when we had the chance.
Or Wenger again? !
You see there ain't much to choose from unles we start scraping the barrels and look through the lower leagues.
Oh! I do apologise. We are scraping the barrel. Sorry boys my mistake. 😂.

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18 Feb 2017 06:30:02
Firstly, I wouldn't underestimate having an Italian manager, look at Conte at Chelsea. Howe is a no no, I agree. I believe we need a strong, dominant character as Wenger has ruled the roost since the departures of Dein and Fiszman. This amazing pair left in 2007 and the next decade only brought us 2 FA Cups, as Wenger formed the club totally in his way. We need a strong manager as the people above Wenger are not strong characters like the pair I mentioned. Koeman is a good shout, well respected and an intelligent, tough character. Allegri is the man I hear that the board have approached.

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{Ed025's Note - keep your mitts off koeman RG.. :)

18 Feb 2017 07:34:21
RG. I wasn't referring to Italian managers mate I meant the Italian league as a whole it isn't nowhere near premier league status. I think you have got to agree.
Conte is a bit of a one off.
I believe he was another one that slipped through the net.
But! Then again he joined a team that is not afraid to spend big when needed.
Not one that looks at saving a few quid at every opportunity! 👎.

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18 Feb 2017 07:28:31
Ed025.Listen mate don't be greedy we are desperate can't you see that?
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{Ed025's Note - i think hes a top manager lanesra and im sure some of the big boys will want him, but he has been touched by the peoples club now mate so anything else will be a step down for him.. :)

18 Feb 2017 07:47:33
Id say let wenger stay for 1-2 and bring Henry in as his understudy. I don't think I'm being nostalgic but the guy just has this air of success about him. I genuinely think he'd be top class straight off the bat.

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{Ed025's Note - great players do not always make good managers valley, you only have to look at the likes of zola, shearer and roy keane mate...mind you, being a total prick did not help in keane,s case..

18 Feb 2017 08:06:05
Valley . Not a bad shout mate. Did you mean as a player manager though? because the way we are going we could use all the help we can get 😂😂.

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18 Feb 2017 02:45:09
Me and my friend had an interesting debate. He reckons a new quality manager would solve all our problems. My argument is actually a new manager won't change much at all.

Minus Sanchez, Ozil, Bellerin and Kos how many of the current players can leave and join a title winning team in any of the top division in Europe?

Too have a squad with only 4 players that can realistically win silverware isn't enough to challenge for the top honours. Even Pep and Mourinho are not having their way this season, simply because they just don't have the quality throughout the squad.

Next season whoever the next manager is will have to compete with Conte, Klopp, Poch, Pep and Mourinho. Some of the best manager in the world. Yes we shouldn't really be comparing Arsenal to the Man united situation and this isn't a Wenger stay message either but whatever happens at the end of the season, we must get it right or it could be a long way to the top and could easily drop out of the top 4.

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18 Feb 2017 06:14:17
Arsenal have a good set of players, which could easily achieve more if the right manager is appointed. Not that they are available, but the following managers could get more from the squad; Conte, Mourinho, Guardiola. I believe the cub, although not doing badly, has become stale under Wenger. Some players have been given too much opportunity and others not enough. We have had weaknesses at LB and in terms of the tactics. When playing the current system, the wide midfield players have to be able to cover the fullbacks and they rarely do. My gut feeling that Wenger will turn up at PSG. He has strong connections with the club and I don't believe that they will turn down the opportunity to install Wenger as manager. My own choices to replace him would come from; Allegri (if he speaks English) , Simeone (if he speaks English) , Koeman (understands the PL, well respected and has done a decent job at lower clubs) . I do not want Howe, who has done a magnificent job at Bournemouth, but I believe Wenger is a hard act to follow and we need a more experienced manager at the helm. As a risk, I would try Vieira, but I'm not sure he is ready to take on such a management task. Interesting times ahead.

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