18 Feb 2018 20:08:20
Whats all this crap with VAR this weekend, just because it was man utd. It is being introduced to help get decisions right. It got that one right. The play was allowed to go on and after the move and goal, it went to the video and it was off side. The linesman couldn't have got it right and in this day and age vid technology did. It shouldn't have been a goal, by the letter of the law it was off side. It would have been a goal talked about as being offside, the linesman can't be expected to see that but technology did. Correct decisions its what we want to see not wrong ones. For once it really is black and white.
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18 Feb 2018 21:49:26
For every tough call VAR gets wrong it will get 100 right with the occasional debatable technicality.
No human being could ever hope be so accurate in a split second with often an unclear view as VAR so how can it be anything but good news.
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18 Feb 2018 23:53:13
Agree gunner, 1 inch offside is unacceptable with an human being and not consistent or achievable consistently but technology can do that for every situation.
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19 Feb 2018 01:56:34
By the way for all, 1 inch was a figure of speech. Technology is accurate, humans can't be.
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19 Feb 2018 03:59:25
I think the on-screen graphic with the squint, squiggly lines kind of made a mockery of the whole thing. Apparently they just broadcast the wrong image, and the squint squiggly line image had nothing to do with the decision, though where it arose from wasn't mentioned. Right decision, but the rest was a farce.
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19 Feb 2018 08:20:34
The fact is Steve our brain makes assumptions based on what it thinks happened and all convince ourselves it's what we really did see or hear.
Captain Kirk never ever said beam me up Scotty but almost everyone remembers him saying it loads of times and during an American basketball game a man ran across the court in a gorilla suit on live TV but a third of those watching didn't notice him in real time and we're stunned when shown the replay how they could have possibly have not seen him at the time.
For years football was all about real time and what the ref saw or missed so did the majority of the public but now days with so many caramas at every professional game technology has given us all the luxury of a second chance of forming a correct opinion it seems crazy that the only person we would refuse that luxury to is the person making the decision.
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19 Feb 2018 13:24:04
As someone who is also a big fan of Rugby and Cricket i am somewhat cautious over the use of VAR in football as at times I think its getting close to spoiling both games and i don't want to see the same happening to football. Of course getting major decisions right is important, which is why the goal-line technology in football is brilliant as it not only removes all doubt, but more importantly it makes the decision quickly. This is my fear, as in rugby and Cricket, the games can get horribly slowed as the crowd wait and wait for a VAR decision after its referred. It seems (probably correctly) that once a decision has been referred it becomes of the most utmost importance that it has to be the right decision, and you subsequently end up waiting 3,4 or even 5 minutes for the VAR to view the event in multiple angles in slow-mo, super slow-mo etc until a final decision is made. This might be OK in cricket (yes for a wicket, but not just to decide if the fielder stopped it being a 4 or not etc) , but its not in Rugby (IMO) and its certainly not in Football. I do like how in rugby the referee still dictates the play and can therefore dictate the VAR question (any reason why i can't award this as a try) and perhaps that's the way football needs to go, perhaps also with a time limit? IE Each time a decision is referred the VAR has 1 minute to clearly identify an incorrect decision and therefore a change is required otherwise the original onfield decision stays? Also, i fear we will also end up with players running up to the referee demanding VAR to every decision going forward, which I seem to recall happened recently in a FA cup tie, when it appeared that after Salah went down in the box and he and a few other Liverpool players complained the referee did in fact go back and refer to VAR. A penalty was subsequently awarded, which is fair enough, but because the other team perhaps felt the Liverpool players had persuaded the referee to refer from that moment onwards every tackle etc was met with players demanding the ref refer to VAR. Perhaps we should go down the MLS route where I think each manager gets 1 or 2 challenges during the game, and if successful the decision is both overturned and they keep their challenge, and if not they lose the challenge (which is how its done in cricket) ?
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19 Feb 2018 14:01:04
Epping mate if I'm honest I was quite happy with the referee being fallible, I've always felt refs mistakes evened themselves up over a season both for and against each team. Players don't get every pass shot tackle right so why should they the manager or the fans expect the person in the middle to be perfect? But they do unfortunately.
So in this modern micro analytic world we live in VAR is the best of a bad job. Understanding accept fans players managers pundits would be ideal but unfortunately those days are gone for now at least.
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19 Feb 2018 17:50:01
The point is, we need as many decisions to be correct as we can. If you win win fairly and if you lose, likewise. The bigger teams always get the decision so the more we can even it out the better for everyone.
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19 Feb 2018 19:57:02
If fairness is what we are after Steve we could do worse than make diving as unacceptable as deliberate fouls.
Refs are only human but I think all do thier best to get it right but their life would be made much easier if the people who moan about them most didn't encourage and allow thier players to try and con them into making mistakes.
Pretty hypocritical to moan about the ref getting it wrong but to encourage trying make him do just that by allowing driving from your players.
If an obvious dive carried a mandatory 5 game ban plus 1 further match from their club to show support diving would soon be a thing of the past.
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18 Feb 2018 05:30:04
{Ed's Note - Tris Burke has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 18th February 2018
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18 Feb 2018 18:33:01
Ali diving still couldn’t beat Rochdale LMAO 😂.
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18 Feb 2018 18:48:17
Lucky for Spurs they weren't up against a top notch outfit, like Nottingham Forest I guess?
Great cup tie that ended with the perfect result for Rochdale, I'm sure the club needs the money that will come from playing at Wembley and of course the players manager and fans all get to share a fantastic occasion together they all will have dreamt of but never expected to experience.
Fa cup at its best.
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18 Feb 2018 19:08:21
We are still in the cup unlike your boys wodbod plus one foot in the quarter finals of the champions league which you would love. I admit we were absolutely crap and Rochdale fully deserve a replay, I also thought it wasn't a penalty and dele Ali is becoming a well known with his diving.
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18 Feb 2018 19:31:43
Raver I think if you gave everyone ar Rochdale the choice between winning or drawing I think most would see the outcome as perfect for them, Ali simply can't be trusted on any penalty decision it's his nature to cheat rather than play. Personally I blame Poch and any manager who tolerate this trait in their players on a regular basis.
Apparently the premier league is the worst league in football for diving now! We've come a long way from being outraged by Jurgen Klinsmann back in the 80s to where we are now.
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18 Feb 2018 19:58:23
100 % penalty this week no question.
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18 Feb 2018 20:10:03
Steve a defender could wrestle Ali down to the ground get hin in a half nelson then pin him for a count of 78 and I'd still give the defender the benefit of the doubt mate.
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18 Feb 2018 20:26:28
Ha ha gunner, i know what you mean.
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18 Feb 2018 21:50:36
With that best ever squad it’s little wonder that absolutely battered Rochdale.
Oh wait. 😂
And Raver what was that load of horse💩 you came out with about being nicked for riding a golf buggy up the M4. That was Andy Powell a welsh rugby player you donut! 🙄.
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18 Feb 2018 23:46:19
There was a tiny bit of contact, defenders leg brushed against him, very iffy penalty, but the dive was embarrassing. Hope the refs start noticing this trend.
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19 Feb 2018 08:17:59
LOL @ Stoner - mate I said this last week. There's no Subaru, the lad snorts icing sugar to look cool, and he cleans the bogs at Stringfellows. Everything about the lad is made up.
On a different note, I hear Tom Daley wants to have his next baby with Dele Alli, for obvious reasons.
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19 Feb 2018 09:35:43
Sharpie he’s definitely not all there, one minute he’s 46 the next he looks like Eric Lamela. 🤔
Maybe it’s extra strength icing sugar. 😂
It’ll be interesting so see which one of his many personalities turns up for this charity football match he’s signed up to play in. 🤡👽🤠👹🤖.
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19 Feb 2018 09:30:15
Ali put his leg towards the defender as he was already going down with his legs together, no attempt to try and get to the ball, it’s embarrassing!
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19 Feb 2018 09:59:58
I reckon he uses a Tate and Lyle stoner 😂.
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19 Feb 2018 10:47:55
Stoner what's a wales rugby player driving a golf buggy in south wales got to go with the raver driving one near slough in 1998 you doughnut, I bet if you ask many golf clubs around the uk do you get people messing around in golf buggys I can guarantee you it would be a 100 per cent yes. You all say I'm lying but none of you will not come out for a night with the raver,
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19 Feb 2018 11:00:59
You took the words right out of my thumb Stoner mate, all will be revealed about Raver at the charity match, my guess is the real Raver is around 48 to 53 age so we shouldn't have to much trouble spotting him
I really like the Raver whether he's Colin from the local library or Malcoln the charted accountant or Bruno the waiter basically he's a good lad just up for a laugh most of the time but can also be quite sensible and even humble at times.
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19 Feb 2018 12:52:48
Raver, none of us are saying that you're lying. We're simply saying that most everything out your mouth isn't true.
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19 Feb 2018 12:56:53
When is this charity game and where? Can spectators come along?
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19 Feb 2018 13:12:18
What like driving a Subaru, if I was Billy liar I would be driving a Lamborghini or a Ferrari, or I could be a massive Barcelona fan instead of spurs or looking like lamela when I could be brad Pitt or christiano Ronaldo.
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19 Feb 2018 13:57:30
Raver me old mucker, I don’t have a single problem with you, your posts never fail to make me smile but I’m going to quote your words from the Spurs page.
“I remember a few years ago I was smashed at a golf club in Berkshire and I had the munchies and I nicked a golf buggy and drove it up the m4 motorway at 3 am in the morning in just my Bermuda shorts and sunglasses heading towards a fast food joint near slough”
Then words from the rugby player story:
“Powell, the British Lions and Wales forward, was spotted by other motorists on the hard shoulder of the M4 behind the wheel of the 20mph buggy taken from his team's hotel.
Cardiff magistrates heard the 6ft 4in player had decided to go to motorway services at 5.45am for "munchies" after a late-night party with team mates to celebrate a dramatic Wales victory over Scotland. ”
All a little strange mate and from a few years you’ve gone to 20 🤔.
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19 Feb 2018 14:05:09
Or you could be called Colin who works in his local library and gets the bus to work each day, Colin might just think the live you tell us of is pretty fantastic just like you do Raver mate. I don't care who you are Raver or Colin I think your lovely either way mate :-)
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19 Feb 2018 14:55:50
Stoner I've also danced in the fountains naked in Trafalgar square and got arrested for that, so are you going to tell me that's been done as well, I don't even know about Andy Powell doing that sort of thing so why would I make it up. I go drinking in Stringfellows quite often but I might as well start lying and say I get smashed at the Ritz hotel every weekend instead.
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{Ed001's Note - and drive a Porsche perhaps?}
19 Feb 2018 15:51:17
Yes mate, a Scottish football fan got nicked for it after the England game a few years back. 😂
What’s the odds the next story you tell, it will have been an Irishman whose already done it. 😉
Raver mate, there is no offence intended toward you, you know you’re always welcome here, but I don’t need to tell you that. 😁👍🏼.
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19 Feb 2018 16:38:49
That is the thing Raver mate, who would make up going to stringfellows? Most people who do go there I'm sure keep quiet about it and just say they had a night in :-)
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19 Feb 2018 16:55:16
Thanks stoner for summing my point up, I got arrested in Trafalgar square for being in the fountains and so did someone else for the same thing. So why can I not drive a buggy up the m4 in 1998 near slough when a so called rugby player done it recently in a different country.
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19 Feb 2018 18:26:10
Chill out Raver mate, what's if matter if no one or everyone believes what you say as long as your not hurting anyone with what you say it's all good whether people believe you or not.
It's all good mate.
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19 Feb 2018 19:34:27
Poor Ravers gone into retirement because of you scoundrels.
bullying in the banter place. you should be ashamed.
RIP. the subaru.
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19 Feb 2018 19:55:01
Raver, just read your post on the Spurs page, DO NOT stop posting mate. People are pulling your leg and I can say with certainty from me that 100% no offence is ever intended toward you.
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19 Feb 2018 20:26:36
I pished myself earlier but by a sheer stroke of luck, I was able to blame it on laughing at this post.
P. S: Raver, not sure why you're letting a little, light banter get the better of you. I mean, is it really such a big deal if G62 calls you Colin?
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19 Feb 2018 21:40:22
Raver mate, if you really want to know how people feel about you ask yourself this question mate?
How many Spurs fans would we all genuinely care about enough to ask to rethink their decision to quite posting?
Mate all joking aside your a top top bloke and it's pretty obvious to me that a lot of people on this page value you as a mate above all and any banter.
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19 Feb 2018 22:02:39
I take it I'm on that list too 62 😉.
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20 Feb 2018 08:44:37
Nes mate personallly i welcome any one and everyone who contributes good hearted banter or honest fair debate.
Personally I'm not into all this historical points scoring stuff or sworn enemies bit, I try to treat everyone as an individual and If it's honest fair interesting or genuinely funny then I welcome it from it from everyone mate, every quality poster the site loses is bad news in my view.
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20 Feb 2018 09:04:48
Fair and concise as always 62. the sites are a better place with you back. now off to put some air into the Subaru's tyres. :-)
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20 Feb 2018 11:33:50
Don't tell me you've nicked Ravers Motor now Nes?
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20 Feb 2018 14:07:04
No way 62, could you imagine the police intelligence on the scooby.
Looks like he's really upped sticks.
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