Arsenal Banter Archive June 18 2018

18 Jun 2018 22:25:04
Ed02 do you know if we are interested in ever benaga? Thanks.

18 Jun 2018 15:01:15
Time to push a couple of buttons. Got to ask do people think it's necessary to have a tall bruising defensive midfielder anymore in the shape of Gilberto Silva or Nzonzi? Maybe I'm slaving to world cup hype but after watching the double pivot of Guardado and Herrera agaisnt Germany I'm starting to think a midfield pair of Torreira and AMN might be the way to go, even against the physical sides such as your Manchester United's/ Cardiff's next season. Opinions?

18 Jun 2018 15:32:26
Xhaka and Torreira or Torreira and Ramsey will be fine. Even Xhaka, Torreira and Ramsey in a midfield 3 would be ideal too :)

18 Jun 2018 15:34:00
My favorite 'defensive' style player presently is Kante. Completely opposite to tall and bruising. So much energy and bite, reading the game well and moving the ball quickly. A double pivot of AMN and Toerreira could be great, and being honest, i'd find that more exciting than N'Zonzi.

18 Jun 2018 15:57:35
Trouble is 77 where do you find another Kante mate?
To play cmf you've got to have an engine be prepared to do as much to stop goals as well as create and score them and of course be able to tackle is a must. Sorry but the closest thing we have to ticking all those boxes currently is Elneny and most of us consider him a squad player.
We need energy and commitment as well as ability in the middle if we are ever going to be competitive again. I don't think physical size matters as much as the size of a players will to give everything to win, staring with not conceeding.

18 Jun 2018 16:22:40
Yes we need a tall strong midfielder to play with (if he comes) torreira. Our midfield last season with the players we played were flakey at defending. let's tighten the job up and allow the attackers do their job. AMN could be the answer next to him but until he has a few games we won't know that he is up to it. When we were away from home, players like xhaka, wilshire, elneny, ozil and ramsey were toothless and they are not going to magically improve that side of their game. We have too many flakey players and we need a bit of bite in the midfield to allow the flair players to get on with their job. Also a bit of size helps in both boxes.

18 Jun 2018 16:34:50
Kante his best game I feel is next to someone who holds aka a matic and he goes to hunt people down.

18 Jun 2018 17:00:06
He does indeed Derby mate, Kante brings everything to the table, he hunts destroys creates and even scores the odd goal too, I don't care what VAR says there is always two of Kante on the pitch in every game.

18 Jun 2018 17:12:03
Kante, quite rightly Derby plays usually next to a destroyer and is then allowed to go about his business.

19 Jun 2018 07:41:23
We have been crying out for a tall, athletic defensive midfield player since the trophy-winning days of Vieira, Petit and Gilberto.
Assuming Emery uses his 4-2-3-1 formation, the pairing of Torreira and Nzonzi would prove quite formidable and will finally give the back four the protection they require.

19 Jun 2018 16:38:36
Coq was our successful recent battering ram, nzonzi would be a bigger influence because of his size and ability, an upgrade.

19 Jun 2018 19:19:34
For me Nzonzi is very much like Fellaini, not so much as in style but the fact that on their day they can be unplayable and a real pain. But those days are far and few between. I think if Fellaini played In Spain he would also look better. Like kongogbia he looks good in Spain .

19 Jun 2018 20:39:51
Fellaini, has to be played right, in the right position and the right team, he is like a battering ram in the opposition box, where as nzonzi is a protection for the defence. Fellaini in his best position isn't required by us but nzonzi or his type is. They don't have to be fancy just effective.

18 Jun 2018 06:40:28
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 18th June 2018

18 Jun 2018 07:11:22
How can a chant be insulting but not intended to offend? 😂.

{Ed001's Note - I am glad I am not the only one confused by that. I guess they are trying to suggest it is like when you call your mate a name. What they seem to be forgetting is that 20,000 strangers shouting abuse is not the same as you calling your mate an idiot.}

18 Jun 2018 09:17:06
Especially 20000 people shouting it at someone on the other team who is almost certainly not mates with any of them!

{Ed001's Note - exactly. Just shows how out of touch with reality CAS is!}

18 Jun 2018 09:42:59
Docking points and eventually banning countries from competitions is the only way to stop it happening. Fines are useless.
Ultimately each country is responsible for its citizens behaviour and each FA for its fans.
Obviously you can't control what every individual does but 20,000 of your citizens behaviour is your problem.

18 Jun 2018 14:58:09
I also agree that it’s an odd statement! But been offended is subjective. I’d get offended if someone refused to eat a meal that I spent time over or a carefully chosen gift that was declined! Not taking your shoes off in someone house is deeply offensive to some cultures. I’d never dream of doing certain things that other cultures would do for fun!

{Ed001's Note - good point.}

18 Jun 2018 16:06:43
Good point Sanago but surely then it comes down to respecting others views and feelings too.
We all know people from all walks of life and some you can you can swap proper banter with while others are easily offended.
PC is crazy in the UK right now but there also has to be a line drawn between what is acceptable banter and unacceptable harassment.

18 Jun 2018 19:12:30
What I’m saying G62 it is easy to say that when you have been brought up in a set environment like we have in the uk and judge others by it. To some people not been able to express themselves is offensive. Don’t ever forget that with all best free will the best of us have levels of programing that make it impossible to see the other side. As it is I agree about homophobic chanting if that’s what it was! But I’ve been brought up with my teachers, the media and most my peers saying it’s wrong, so to me it is! A lot of my older family members think the other way! So be it that’s how their parents thought and that’s how society programmed them back then.

18 Jun 2018 21:59:03
I totally agree with that Sanago mate, a huge part of tolerance and acceptance is accepting that some who grew up in a different age aren't so capable of change.
We can't and have no right to tell people how to think and feel but everyone needs to accept a changing more tolerant is happening even if they don't always agree with it.