Arsenal Banter Archive May 18 2018

18 May 2018 14:48:18
hi ed25 if you're around i was wondering your take on arteta and if you would take him at everton? i found it quite odd that with everton also looking for a manager he hasn't really been linked to you. if he's an inspired choice for us, i would think he also would be for you. but i expect your board is just maybe not as mental! XD.

{Ed025's Note - i think as a future manager he may fit the bill eden but at this time its a massive gamble, for me he needs to cut his teeth in maybe the championship or even maybe abroad before he can be expected to mount a serious challenge with a massive club like arsenal, would he get the respect from senior players who to be honest could ask him "and whatever have you won?", if he is appointed i can see it going tits up pretty quickly although i hope not as i really like arsenal and loved him as a player...but that does not make him a good manager mate..

18 May 2018 18:42:34
Good reply Ed025,
Spot on.

{Ed025's Note - cheers dags..

18 May 2018 18:44:21
i was thinking the same thing, it seems like an odd choice give what seems to of forced thier hand was lack of attendance and the wrong choice could exacerbate that, so it seems taking a risk on a manager a large portion of fans are already convinced will fail seems like an odd step to take to steady the ship! are everton interested in him or anyone else for that matter?

{Ed025's Note - certainly not arteta eden, marco silva looks nailed on mate..

18 May 2018 18:58:09
Hello ed025 do you know if arteta is certainly going to be happening or if arsenal might still change their structure?

{Ed025's Note - i dont think its set in stone dags but he is very much of interest to arsenal mate, i think there is more than a good chance he will become the next arsenal manager but i really hope not..

18 May 2018 18:59:54
he does, what do you think of him? he seems quite flakey to me.

{Ed025's Note - i happen to like him eden, im not saying he is a world beater but at this stage it would be hard for us to entice the really top coaches and i see him as one of the best of the rest mate..

18 May 2018 19:30:01
Personally I wouldn't chose Artetta but no proven manager is going to come in and have such little control in which players he gets to work with.
if Artetta had 5 years experience in Spain champions league football aa a coach and a Europa league trophy under his belt already I doubt very much he'd be keen either.
So our first appointment under our new way of doing things is probably going to have to be a gamble as Allgeri and Nanglesman are currently in to good a position to have to risk their own reputation 100% on the Sven mens choices.
Only someone looking for a chance would be prepared to accept our job under our current system.

18 May 2018 22:37:23
What experience has nagelsmann got in champions league? Went out in qualifies and knocked out of europa. I'm not endorsing arteta but if allegri, ancelotti etc don't want to leave their current job or work under the structure we have then the next level of manager would be big Sam or moyes. Would we be happy with that, no way! If arteta gets the job I hope he brings in experienced back room staff and the fans and players give him a chance otherwise we have set ourselves up for a doomed season.

18 May 2018 23:42:49
He could be another Paul Clement : (.

19 May 2018 08:39:30
If only he'd been a translater as Jose was at Barcelona before getting his chance.

18 May 2018 17:44:27
Sharpy.

😂😂😂 U. S. A U. S. A 😂.

18 May 2018 18:18:49
Donald Trump Donald Trump. 😉.

18 May 2018 19:35:35
Steve you could have saved a few bytes of data being transmitted by simply saying "Wotsit Wotsit"

18 May 2018 19:38:52
Steve you remind me of the chief of police in the pink panther films :-)

18 May 2018 20:07:48
But wasnt he french gunner.

18 May 2018 22:13:55
Yes mate that's why you remind me of him so much :-)

18 May 2018 11:04:59
I think it's easy to forget we are looking for more of a coach than a manager who builds the team/ squad himself.
From what I've gathered the Sven men are going to be doing the spotting and chosing of players who to buy then give them to the coach to get the best out of, a bit like an England squad that's been picked for you and your job is simply have to get the best out of what your given.
Obviously this will be a big factor in who wants the job as any established manager might well be put off coming in and taking responsibility and flack for players they themselves didn't want to bring in.
Having said that it's something that has been done successfully abroad for years so it's just a case of seeing how it works for us but it obviously isn't something an established manager elsewhere would be in hurry to quit his current job where he has more of a say for in a hurry.

18 May 2018 13:24:49
Gunner, i have no faith in this clubs owner at all. My company is american owned and all arsenal will think of is the business model. This owner is not bothered who manages the club as far as sporting ambition is concerned. It would not surprise me if he hasn't discussed, when he has drained all he can out of the premier league money pit and it has run its time, he puts us in the mls in the future. It not about success in sport, it is about success in business.

18 May 2018 13:26:02
I tell you what g62 your back in to the full blown optimist. Your even trying to sell Arteta ta ta ttta😂👍🏻.

18 May 2018 14:02:23
I'm getting more and more open to Artetta mate should it happen of course:-)
I'm not sure what say Allgeri Nanglesman and others have at there current clubs but it's a big gamble to swap what works for you currently and take a step into the unknown where your reputation is suddenly put in the hands of strangers so for that reason I can see why out field of choice is narrowed.
Maybe this first post Arsene appointment will have to take a chance on an unproven coach in order for the Sven men and the club to sell themselves to the wider football established football management world.
So far the Sven men have delivered Pea Miki and the young Greek CB which ain't to shabby at all so we've every reason to think we might see more like these 3 and less of Xhaka Mustafi and Iwobi type signings in future.
No guarantees in football but in truth we have very little to lose in trying something other than what hasn't gone so well for so long now.

18 May 2018 14:33:34
Well if it happens it happens. Would’ve nice to start a campaign with out the sharks circling.

18 May 2018 15:19:47
Everyone, whoever the boss is has to start with Clean sheet. Its how long the sheet is allowed on the bed that is the thing.

18 May 2018 15:41:18
Always expect a rookie to rubbish it first though steve. Again I’d get behind whoever but everyone will be waiting for it to go wrong.

18 May 2018 16:48:51
Yes sano, people will be waiting for it to go wrong, that's why it will be so hard for a rookie. We are on a slide down so people will not have 100% confidence in the unknown.

18 May 2018 17:20:28
Steve we have been on the slide for years but so were Liverpool and Spurs until Poch and Klopp came along and turned them around, " Artetta isn't a Klopp or Poch " I hear you cry, well neither were Klopp and Poch before someone gave them a chance to prove themselves.
I'm not saying Artetta should or shouldn't be the man we go but just for a moment imagine if the club listen to the fans and say " ok we won't have Artetta to keep you happy " but instead Everton or West ham give him a chance and he gets them into next season champions league, what would those same fans who now criticise the board for even considering him now say?
My guess is " the board has no vision to spot a good coach in the making and shouldn't be bullied by the fans ":-)
For some people the club simply can't do right for doing wrong no matter what they do.
The Sven men brought in 3 players who we all rate, who approved bringing in the Sven men? :-) .

18 May 2018 17:48:29
for me g62 its interesting that he hasn't even been linked to either of those clubs. especially everton, if he's such a catch for us everton, who have a similar connection as us to him should be fighting us for his signature and if he's good enough to take on the expectation here he should also be able to take on thier expectation, but i haven't seen him linked to either. i asked the same thing to ed25, as to what his opinion on everton getting him would be, but expect he's not been around to answer.

18 May 2018 18:02:11
Gunner we are in a bit of a slump, appointing Arteta won't inspire confidence for the fans. So straight away he will be at a disadvantage. His bank is nearer the overdraft than a person with an already good track record. This isn't me saying this, it just a fact. Trust in him will be brittle.

18 May 2018 18:14:25
Im wondering the same eden. Plus i would imagine his house is closer to liverpool than london.

18 May 2018 19:18:14
True lads but no one was keen on thier club employing Claudio Ranieri 3 summers back but I'm sure many United fans who were very excited about Jose taking over from LVG are now thinking what was the point.
Most manager appointments don't work out well which is why there are so many appointments and dismissals each and every season.
12 months ago were all city fans 100% happy with Pep? I'd say more than 50% had real doubts about him after his first season but now he's the best thing since sliced corn beef.

18 May 2018 20:12:37
But gunner, if pep had been pep pre Barcelona and bayern and at citeh, he may have not been given the extra season. He had a bit of form to back him up.

18 May 2018 22:23:25
Your right Steve that's why as long as the thrashings at Anfield the bridge city united stop then the new man needs 2 seasons to be judged fairly, i'd say top 4 or extremely close within two seasons dwarves a third season.

18 May 2018 23:46:14
Gunner pep basically ripped the squad up and started again. Younger faster players. If we hand arteta 500million it's a good start.

18 May 2018 08:42:08
If you could pick any 3 players from teams that finished below us to improve not necessary the starting 11 but the squad who would you choose? I'm struggling but thinking maybe Coleman, Evans and gana.

18 May 2018 09:10:41
Maguire mahrez pope.

18 May 2018 09:52:41
Mahrez, Lascelles, Butland.

18 May 2018 10:33:03
Forgot about Leicester players lol. Ndidi could be a good shout as well.

18 May 2018 12:49:12
Mahrez, Zaha and doucore.

18 May 2018 15:56:57
Butland
Tarkowski
Mahrez

Mee, Doucore and Zaha are good shouts too.