Arsenal Banter Archive October 18 2014

18 Oct 2014 22:06:38
I had a thought today. We all get so caught up on buying new players but once we get quality they're not even utilized in the way that maximizes their talent. Ozil being the main example. Also that we buy the wrong type of player compared to what we need. The point I'm trying to make is that it's going to be hard to really get excited over any new players knowing wenger will still be using the same boring let's score a perfect ticky taka goal strategy.

We really need to start using the wings a big more and play what I like to call PULSE Football . In that we play our passing game but then if a team is just sitting back on us we go wide and whip the ball in with pace.yes we may lose possession but at least we get the ball into dangerous spaces and not become predictable.
The way we play it's as if we are afraid to lose possession even if it means we spend 5 mins on an attack build up. it equates to high possession with a low number of threatening shots.

Any other tactic suggesions you fellow gooners have?

18 Oct 2014 23:22:48
Back in the days of the 'invincibles', we use to play fast, flowing, one touch football, using the wings to utilise the pace and stretch the opposition defences.

Now?
Slow and pedestrianised, too many touches, not enough pace, allowing the opposition to reorganise at the back.

I'm with you dags, as far as I can remember the last season we had that was when we were still playing a four four two the hear Eduardo broke his leg. We had fabs flam hleb Eduardo adebayor that year and the one touch football was still there. I have no idea why wenger messed with such a successful team set up

18 Oct 2014 20:59:52
Not a fan of posting straight after a game, but here goes.

Firstly, the Wenger situation.

As Gunner62 has said many times, we will not sack Wenger.
I'm not saying I don't want it to happen, just that it won't.

Why?
Because, and its wrong, Wenger rules the roost, from bottom to top.
We should be called Arsene Football Club.

Arsenal, by tradition, unless brown envelopes are involved, do not sack managers.
Is tradition a good thing?
Or is our bond with tradition holding us back?

I think we should start moving with the times and leave our 'Draconian' traditions behind, because they are holding us back.

Barca sack managers, Real Madrid sack managers, Manchester United sack managers, all clubs do.
Maybe its time we followed suit.

If not, let's show Wenger the same loyalty he has shown us, and move him upstairs.

Today's game.
Pathetic, abject, void of team spirit, lacking creativity and no leadership.

One win in 7.
10 goals and 11 points behind Chelsea after 8 games.

Its not good enough because we are not good enough because our manager is not good enough.

Well dags, you are right. I wrote a little post a few weeks ago that everyone passed by, about this being the season we fall, because the makeup of the team is wrong, it lacks in too many areas to be confident about. I also don't enjoy watching the class of 2014/15. It doesn't rock my boat, in fact, we are boring.

19 Oct 2014 02:12:35
No kidding, most of us have been saying the same thing for the last 5-8 years but nothing really happened. It is going beyond frustrating.


depressed.

Ed, can you start an Arsenal cribbing page too :(

Steve r. we are boring, I would excuse it if we won convincingly like Chelsea do, but we don't, we pass the ball around and do nothing with it. Just aimless passing.

Well said Dags. I agree.

We have no defence but we should at least be attacking well with our squad except that isn't happening either. We have an injury record which is indicating to me that there is poor player management. Yet nothing changes.

This club is currently full of stagnant energy. I hope the board or Arsene realise this, but I doubt it.

Rioch was sacked because he was useless and football was poor. But that was because we had people with excellent football knowledge running the club.

Iv always backed steve.r and his thoughts as I think the same. Iv been ranting wenger out for a while now

Dags this is a wenger out post if ever iv seen one. I just want to finally see wenger out on your post and i'm happy and I can leave into the night. My work here will be done lol

18 Oct 2014 18:45:48
Lets not also lose sight of how Chambers has picked up a suspension so early, madness really, showing his inexperience, someone needs to pull him to one side. and have a chat

18 Oct 2014 21:03:54
To be fair, at least 2 of the 5 yellows were pathetic ref decisions.

But, that's footy.

18 Oct 2014 21:32:42
He makes the tackles no one else in the team will make. The ones that when they're not made we concede.

The professional fouls we should be making, such as Chelsea are cunning enough to do.

I've no problems with it whatsoever

That's no good when you have no cover .

My money is on him serving at least another ban, maybe two, he needs to calm down a bit

Chambers is committed a little like keown, yes a little rash now and then and yes he will pick up yellows. I think there is a great player in there, waiting to mature and i'm surevhe will and reduce the amount of yellows but don't change his style. The problem there is no cover is not his.

19 Oct 2014 16:05:50
Last year he hadn't a single yellow. Why? Because Schneider and Wanyama were doing the job we need someone to do.

Making the flow halting tackles in midfield that never get cards so far out (unless a reckless or clumsy challenge)

Players run at us get behind the lines and Chambers takes it upon himself to make the tackle before they make it into our box.

Hazard 2 weeks ago prime example. He should have been halted 40yrds out.

Something has to be done with how we defend from the front.

18 Oct 2014 18:17:52
In other news villa continued to show us what utter crap they really are,

And Sunderland will of course be fired up, "looking to respond" next week against us.

Villa are poor. And people were thinking we would win the league after we beat them. Strange. In other news can we sign wanyama already

18 Oct 2014 17:35:12
Not so long ago of wed have been 2-1 down with 40mins to go bbc final score wouldve been back and forth to the emirates about a dozen times. Today though it was about 4 at most. No ones interested that hull are beating us at home. Its not that big a deal anymore.

18 Oct 2014 17:05:27
Wenger must take responsibility for his lack of defensive cover and also his lack of tactic adjustments. Teams pack the box and we still try to go through the middle over and over and over. For me this summer was his last chance to buy what he really needed.

How can anyone out there believe we will win another major trophy with him as the boss?

We won't, and I don't call the F A Cup a 'major' trophy either

It is about times fans call for change at the games rather than just sit and take it every year

Spot on, we are too one dimensional and can't come up with a plan B, it's been said my so many people yet nothing changes.

Wenger has said that we are one player short, that he will try to rectify it in January, but 2 months is more than enough. All this money spent in the summer, our squad is hardly any bigger.

Sagna - Debuchy
Fabianski - Ospina
Sanchez - Walcott perhaps
Chambers - Vermarlean
Welbeck - only proper addition IMO and now he's on his own since OG is out.

Shocking naive when it comes to defenders. I remember Wenger saying that the best players used to come from France, then Spain and now Germany, we need a german coach, (ideally Lowe) who can play te german style with our german players. And need to get a proper DMF!!

I'm in shock that Wenger hasn't added more defenders. And I'll be shocked if we finish 4th at his rate.

Wenger out.

#LoweIn

Totally agree, the first goal proves it pathetic by flamini he should know u deal with the ball there but monreal cb and bellerin in are defence, wenger take responsibility no more rubbishty response like its our injuries its the big teams financial clout when we play them its his tactics his squad and his responsibility, best thing is he goes this summer and we rebuild the defence next summer with a new manager

We'll finish 3rd no worse and certainly no better this season.
Top trophies are as far away as ever they were and next season we will really be in danger of finishing outside the top four maybe top 5 even.
We are treading water neither improving or slipping but others are and will continue to improve around us which is where Arsene's going to truly come undone. Shame its going to end so badly for him this was a contract to far

Wenger has to take full responsibility for leaving us so short of defensive numbers. He knew Vermealen and Sagna were leaving long ago. Yes he brought in Dubuchy and Chambers but has lost a lot of experience with losing those two. Then to compound matters he decides to let Jenkinson to go out on loan, just daft. I would certainly much rather Jenkinson at CB than Monreal.

I knew this would come back to bite us and it has with us down to bare bones at the back already with having to play Monreal at CB, He is not exactly convincing at LB let alone CB.

With have such unbalanced squad with too many attack minded midfielders too many forwards and not enough defensive minded midfielders and defenders.

I think we will finish 4th. Manu 3rd

18 Oct 2014 16:45:50
Well and truly taken the heat off Manchester United as the joke of the Premier League. A Manager in any business would be fired for poor decision and inadequate resourcing. Regardless of what he had done in the past. We are going backwards so something needs to change.

Totally agree

And all those on here taking the mickey out of Man U a few weeks ago must feel foolish.

We are NO better than Man U defensively and at the other end I would say they have the edge over us also

When utd went out both the league cup at Milton Keynes I didn't gloat one bit as I didn't see how we could, Anfield Etihad and boot sale mailings were way to fresh in the memory for us to laugh at anyone

I didn't either 62, but quite a few on here did.

18 Oct 2014 16:20:38
Our annual struggle for fourth place is starting earlier than usual this season.

Hi, yes. going to be a long season:( ewwwww.
COYG andi

18 Oct 2014 14:23:02
Good start to the day, the spurs are getting stuffed and their debutant CD Fazio only lasted about 60 mins and saw red!

Happy days

18 Oct 2014 11:28:38
Ok in the name of fun, which footballer past or present do you most look like?
Also in your prime which players style would reminds you of your own?
No Dags you don't and never did look anything like Beckham and neither were you a Ranaldo/Messi/Henry rolled into one type player :-)
Be honest peole even if the answers are
Ian Dowie lookalike and Sanogo type player.

Fun G62? You need to get out more :-)

I look like David Ginola but with no hair!

"Because i'm worth it"

18 Oct 2014 17:36:37
Ossie Ardiles I'm afraid lol

In looks and playing style :-)

18 Oct 2014 08:35:44
2-1

Just

Ye il go 2-1 also

An easy 3-0 for me!

Easy it aint, I can't remember the last time we went into a game and I felt comfortable of a clean sheet