Arsenal Banter Archive April 19 2014

 

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19 Apr 2014 20:46:40
Bony of Swansea anyone think he's the new drogba worth a shout I think with walcotts pace and another pacey wing feed the wilf and he will score

Swansea gunner

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Yes. I'd go with Bony at the moment. Why not?

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19 Apr 2014 19:42:37
U.S

I am puzzled by your comment "They didn't win, we lost "

Surely a few teams could say that? Liverpool's form has been superb, look how many goals they have scored, if you are going to score 100 + goals the odds are in your favour to win it . You are most likely to score more than you concede.

Every season a team goes through a dodgy patch, some get over it quicker than others, we didn't and suffered very and I mean very heavy defeats, defeats that were mentally very difficult to overcome

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Well said Banbury mate
we lost 6 games, not good but not bad, aston villa I think we should have won
stoke I think we where worth a draw
chelski can't remember that one
city we scored three
liverpool, we where poor
man u, we had chances,
but like banbury says every team can point to what could have happend.

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Good post Banbury fair honest and most importantly acceptance of reality

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I think what Usg is saying is that we had the resources, infrastructure and players in place to really go for it this year and we totally screwed the pooch with both transfer windows.
Had we bought a class cm (strootman?) A couple of decentforward players (Suarez for 55m or hig for 35, Aubemeyang or even Bony or Remy for 10) I think we would be there.

As good as Ozil is, we did not NEED a creative midfielder. We needed pace and dynamism and it was obvious to everyone to see, and easily rectifyable. That need was ignored and we are left with what we have

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Guys when will some of you get it in your heads Wenger will never do any real business in January, he hates that window, he believes all the true quality players are in the CL, can't argue that and clubs just inflate prices especially when a club like ours is sniffing around, AW will never look in Jan for players, no matter how bad the injury list is looking. and ours wasn't great

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To be fair banbury the summer window was the damaging window, i'd have happily taken say draxler and left him out for champions league.

i mean every year we draw a team that is off this planet football wise, I appreciate getting in the champs league but our current squad can't compete on 4 fronts, we need a ruthless cull from the very top for this to change

board = fail
wenger = jury is out likely to come back with a guilty
medical team = something has to be done here - I think the only alternative is 2 solid option per position, and look to move one or 5 of the crocks on

the mere fact pool are in charge proves it was right there for the winning, .

my biggest problem this season has been the attitude of a few players looking beat before they even get on the pitch.

might as well just not bothered turning up for chelsea or liverpool

where does the blame lie who knows i'd start a clear out though rather than do nothing burying my head in the sand which appears wengers favoured approach

something has to change this summer cause its getting boring now

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19 Apr 2014 17:51:37
Dagz, this is per the Liverpool playing 12 fewer matches comment

I consider that a privilege

The best teams play the most matches

Yes they played 12 fewer. Bayern also took a two week vaca over Christmas in a span where we played 8 matches

This is our 16th year doing this, so I'm sorry, but the same old excuses don't fly anymore

Our medical team is trash. Point blank.

It is what it is

We succumbed to the same injuries and issues that have plagued us every year these last 7, 8 years

I'm sick of it

Muscle strains shouldn't keep you out months, except at our beloved club

I cannot believe we are not winning this title. This is not to sound cocky, but whoever wins the title does so because we pissed it away.

They didn't win the title, we lost it.

Next year, if United win the title, likely we will have played 10 more matches than them. Then what? Same argument?

Point is, excuses are like persons. Everyone has one and they all stink.

We are where we are because we shat the bed. Scraping for 4th place and a joke cup is a disgrace

This summer, I could care less if we sign anybody. I believe we have internal solutions to every position within the club. I mean that.

But for God's sake, hire a damn competent medical team

The day we played Barca at the Nou Camp and trotted Mikael Silvestre out there because we were so bare, I thought Wenger learned his lesson. Clearly he hasn't.

This campaign stings more than 07 did. I'm sick of losing for non-football related issues

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Fair points USG

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I personally put it down to overplaying players when we don't necessarily need to. But then that is a question of either our squad depth not being sufficient to swap players out or Wengers lack of faith/fear in playing the other players Either way we wore Ozil, Ramsey, Gibbs, Wilshere, Koscielny, Giroud and Walcott either into the ground or bought them back from fairly minor injury's too early causing them to have a longer term on the sidelines than they would have.

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Us G, I get what you're saying about the med team - but to paraphrase a well known arsenal blogger, you can't blame the paramedic for causing a car crash.
Ramsey was run into the ground.
Ozil was run into the ground.
Walcott was rushed into the first team, playing something stupid like 5 games in 16 days - every minute, run into the ground.
Koscielny, Wilshere likewise.
Arteta has lost his legs at 31, not an old age, because he's playee every minute he's been available for 3 years.

It's no wonder it's our key players that are crocked.

Cause and effect.

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Usg.

I wholeheartedly agree that we pissed this season away.

We should have been considered favourites at the beginning of the season considering the
Continuity
Resources
Experience
Of our team/club as a whole

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BAZ
i agree we need 3/4 quality players to come in
IMO
monreal, bentner, need to go
tv5, arteta, jenkinson, sonago not sure about

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It's not cocky to say "they didn't win we lost it" it's embarrassingly arrogant to say that.
It has nothing to do with the medical staff being trash! It's a simple reason that we didn't have the squad because Wenger didn't strengthen it in the summer or January. It's as simple as that. Only 1 person to blame and as much as I want him to succeed that person is Wenger.

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I also disagree with your point. We had a full squad vs. Chelsea, Man City, L'Pool, and we didn't just lose, we were completely embarrassed by all three teams. The squad lacks composure. Yes, we need to strengthen in the summer, but Wenger's claims of a strong mentality are sh*t andso is our medical team.

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Nothing to do with a poor medical team. Arsene over plays players to cover for the lack of quality squad depth and rushes them back for the same reason. If he spent some money then we won't be in this predicament every year.

If we want to move forward, Arsene has to go because it's sure as that he won't move forward.

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19 Apr 2014 14:39:08
QUESTION:

Since 2005 we have participated in 4 finals but came away beaten on each occasion (champs league, carling cup ×2 & 1 FA Cup -this year) yet qualified for Champs League in each of those league season, so looking back, would you have now rather we won all those 4 finals in place of a Champs League spot for each of those failed seasons?

ANSWERS:

A) Cups
B) Champ Spots

I would have to go with A), because atleast then we would have only missed out 3 champs league seasons (remember winning 06 final would have put us straight back in as holders). So we would have 4 trophies and 3 non champs league seasons and Arsene would have had 11 trophies in 17 years (remarkable) and won every single trophy available including Champs League and League Cup.

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Yep trophies is what I would go for! Imo if we had won the 2005/06 champions league final we would have gone on to dominate the European game for a few years and kicked on into the new stadium.

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19 Apr 2014 16:46:29
The only one I would have wanted to win more is the CL final itself. Let's be honest, we all love looking forward to the group stage draw for CL and I would hate it if I was not waiting for Arsenal's name to be coming out of the hat.

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Me too the CL final is the only swap I'd make, Birmingham Portsmouth Swansea Wigan have all won a domestic cup in that period, Bayern and Barca is who we need to be emulating.
4th and FA cup is a nice consultation prize we have no choice but to be happy with this year but I do hope for much more next season.

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19 Apr 2014 06:26:32
Hi eds, question(s) Schneiderlin seems like a nice fit, is he arsenal quality? better than Bender? cost? are we interested?

Big fan of you work - Many thanks!

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{Ed002's Note - The interest of Arsenal is elsewhere as I have explained. I cannot sensibly answer subjective questions - it would only be an opinion.}

19 Apr 2014 07:56:36
EDS
what happened to my andy townsend, thred to get him off ITV
i toke me ages to work out how to say it, was it the last clue, lol

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{Ed025's Note - i dont know taff, have you searched the other pages on the arsenal site mate?..

Yes bar the bin,

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{Ed001's Note - we usually put Ed025's notes in there mate, it will be overflowing by now that bin.....}