Arsenal Banter Archive August 19 2015

19 Aug 2015 23:03:06
Back to offside. The original rule was brought in to stop goal hangers and over the yearscit has been changed somuch by people who don't understand football and now it is so confusing its uunworkable. If a player is in an offside position when the ball is played then that said player or players should not be able to touch the ball till the move breaks down. If a player is fractionally offside or makes a run from behind and is a fraction of a second offside, how can he be classed as a goal hanger. We can't work to fractions of a second and it not what the rule was brought in for. But i'm sure they will change it again and again untill it so complicated, we will have electronic flashing beacons on the players head when he is electronically offside because humans can't colate it

19 Aug 2015 23:49:13
As Dr Evil would say,

"We should fit laser beams to their heads".

We should just go back to the old fashioned rule.

None of this phase 1 or phase 2 offside rule.

If,when ball is played, you are beyond the defender,you are offside, simple.

20 Aug 2015 00:04:40
Thank you for clearing that one up Steve :)

20 Aug 2015 06:38:22
If a player is in an 'offside' position, he is interfering with play, as the opposing players will adjust their positions accordingly. Having run a line, it is hard enough to judge where a player is when the ball is kicked, never mind the minefield of nonsense that has clouded a rather simple rule.

20 Aug 2015 07:37:26
Spot on Robbie

20 Aug 2015 09:16:52
If you are on the pitch you are interfering with play. That is a fact. Offside is offside,Unless you are injured in a heap on the floor near the corner flag.

19 Aug 2015 17:59:33
Usually steve and I don't agree on things, but his post below on Le Coq was spot on, he did not have a bad game, he had a worse game at wes ham than against palace

19 Aug 2015 22:48:20
Im sorry I don't agree we don't agree. Lol

{Ed025's Note - your not an agreeable chap steve.. :)

19 Aug 2015 14:26:39
pedro to chelsea have they finally sorted there right side problem out? could be a key signing for them

19 Aug 2015 15:12:18
Could also cause even more defensive issues if Ivanovic continues as first choice right back. Pedro will offer far less help than Willian in covering for Ivanovic's lack of pace and discipline.....
But maybe just wishful thinking as an Arsenal fan

19 Aug 2015 17:32:19
Im not sure why they need him really, personally i don't think it makes them any stronger, i'm also yet to be convinced he will hack it in the prem. Is he better than mata and will iam, not sure. Time will tell if they get him.

19 Aug 2015 18:17:19
I'd love to enjoy utd letting Pedro escape their ugly grasp but any gloating might be very short lived as they sign Benzema and send this page into meltdown instead.
But what ever happens its hard not to be happy for the Pedro's

19 Aug 2015 18:20:23
Is he better on the right hand side. Yes. Mata is a num10. William at shaktar dominated the left side but they have hazard that side.

We don't need Pedro but for that he could do very well.

19 Aug 2015 13:08:43
Has anyone send what the united fans have said since it looks like they aren't getting Pedro.. Absolutely comical.. If Ronaldo or Bale isn't signed then Woodward should be sacked, that's just some of the crazy statement's that are flying about.. Hilarious I must say:-);-)

19 Aug 2015 14:47:20
We're not all that bad! There's been some new posters on our page this morning going into meltdown, I've got to admit I've had a laugh at it myself

19 Aug 2015 14:57:59
They are world class at this stuff . First Firmino then Clyne now Pedro. Otamendi to probably follow in tje coming days

19 Aug 2015 16:22:58
Oh come on now. Show me a football fan that isn't fickle and I'll show you a liar.

19 Aug 2015 16:40:22
Oh please dags2 get over yourself lol. First Clyne then Firmino what? U mean the guy that no one wanted at Liverpool or the guy that even the hoffenhiem chairman couldn't believe what u paid for?

While our '2nd choice' looked the business last night.

I can't really speak for firmino as unlike most Liverpool fans I didn't watch every hoffenhiem game last season to judge yet lol

19 Aug 2015 17:05:24
To be fair darmian has made United look like they didn't miss out on much with Clyne and Depay who I'm a fan of looks like he's settling in but if city get otamendi and with Chelsea getting pedro , I wouldn't be a very happy chap as a United fan but as a gooner I'm loving it

19 Aug 2015 17:37:59
Dags2?

Lol

19 Aug 2015 18:17:51
Ronaldo, bale, pedro, mane, there's a trend there, who next after mane? Lamela, nani lol.

19 Aug 2015 18:50:51
Berg, your loving what?

Remember when arsenal used to 'miss out' on targets lol.

Dags yes dags2 :)

19 Aug 2015 19:08:04
Come on CTR, let's not get too carried away with Depay, granted he scored two and made one but the quality of the opposition was absolutely shocking.

I saw him compared to Ronaldo, Best, Robson etc on social media last night..

See if he cuts the mustard in the PL first

19 Aug 2015 19:06:52
Lol bless them there's only one club that Liverpool fans think that have missed out on players more than is and that is Liverpool.

19 Aug 2015 19:33:12
Peter, how am I getting carried away? He looked the business last night. I didn't say anything else your implying!

19 Aug 2015 21:53:30
Banging two in last night is better than not scoring. You play what's put in front of you and depay looked good. But Unlike some I'm not interested in voyeurism. We will deal with the scousers on Monday night. Find out a little more about both clubs aspirations

20 Aug 2015 22:48:27
Tbh I thought darmian looked below required quality in the spurs and villa games.

And ctr, you're the most sensitive little thing I've ever witnessed.

19 Aug 2015 08:49:31
Well well well le coq is getting some stick for having ONE bad game since he's been back, for me he is the reason we had a good end to the season parhetic if u ask me!! Let's get bhind OUR team and support all the team not just the super stars

19 Aug 2015 09:38:31
Post of the season so far that CB, if people are judged purely on consistancy and level of their performances only Kos and Sanchez rival Le Coq in 2015.
Alas he didn't cost a fortune and doesn't use social media to grab the headlines so will always struggle for recognition.

19 Aug 2015 09:51:45
AW should be the one getting stick for not having an alternative.

{Ed025's Note - i think he believes he has one in arteta mate..

19 Aug 2015 10:00:22
Lol he actually dint have a bad game, put in some good tackles, if anything he was worse against wes ham, trying to ridicoulous passes

19 Aug 2015 10:04:02
Past his sell by date ED. You probably have a soft spot for him being an ex toffee.

{Ed025's Note - i dont you know..dirty little traitor for me..but good player, but if arsene thinks he is good enough then who am i to argue, you see you and i are not the best manager in england..arsene happens to be..

19 Aug 2015 11:45:13
Well said Ed.

I don't even think Coquelin had a bad game, I think he was just a bit rash in his tackles but other parts of his game were fine. For example, the counter attack from a Crystal Palace corner which lead to a shot that got cleared off the line - a chance that Sanchez should have put away. Coquelins pass to Cazorla (I think) in that build up was sublime and perfectly weighted.

19 Aug 2015 13:58:32
First of all coq did not have a bad game, do people not understand the role he is playing. Yes he could have been sent off, but certain players ie ramirez, matic, mikel, simonne, keoman, keane, vierra etc etc also spend/spent a career nearly and getting sent off. Its his job to break up play and its his job to foul and generally be a bad boy. Only idiots would single him out for fouling, he puts in more tackles than for example ozil ( not good example I know ) so he is going to get booked and suspended. Please understand why he is in the team and appreciate his job. Now the problem is as we have been trying to tell people, when he is not there. Now that's someone elses problem.

19 Aug 2015 13:27:58
Ed, I very much doubt I am the best manager in my living room, let alone england!!

{Ed025's Note - you and ma both epping..

19 Aug 2015 17:43:23
I'm not even the best manager in my own bed, Dags and both his brothers are all better than me :-(

20 Aug 2015 22:52:00
Traitor for leaving Everton? That's ridiculous. Why would any player not want to better themselves and their career if the opportunity arises. And in all seriousness, I think I'd prefer arteta to mikel or kurt zouma as a back up dm

18 Aug 2015 22:38:30
Am I the only one who thinks le coq is a disaster waiting to happen? I just think he try's to hard he constantly picks up silly cards , I think we will regret not signing a stop gap until we ( try) and sign carvalho , and then still just cusse we want a player it doesn't mean we will get him , I just don't see the logic in not getting someone or at least show we are willing to try a youngster at some time in that position , no one expected bellerien would be our first choice starter , until he got a run of 5-6 games , but we are not looking at buying a d/m nor do I see a younger pretender on the bench , just my opinion ( but I am great at fantasy football so I must know what I'm talking about :/ haha)

19 Aug 2015 01:30:46
Le coq had a bad game against palace but he's otherwise sound. But we do need some cover/competition for him for sure. There's beilik but not heard much thus far as regards to his progress .

19 Aug 2015 02:26:57
He has to play on the edge that's his job, how many times Viera got too excited getting the early red and left me a mess for the better part of an hour, I can't count.

That said does seem Coq does better when he holds off a bit and stays in his limits.

19 Aug 2015 03:19:38
I thought a bit too much was made of Coquelin's fouls in the Palace match. However, it is clear that we need a quality defensive midfield player as an alternative or to play with Coquelin. Arteta and Flamini are not the answer. Flamini appears to be on out of Wenger's plans andthe same should have gone for Arteta.

19 Aug 2015 04:18:49
I don't think Wenger should go the the hottest young DM around right now. He should go for a player who has just hit 30 or 31 Y/O. A player who has the experience to teach Coq everything he knows and is also capable of playing another year or two (both rotational and cover) before he's slowly faded out leaving us with a much improved Coq.

19 Aug 2015 05:44:09
NEG that is basically what Arteta has been doing. Probably one more year of that.

19 Aug 2015 06:38:40
Problem is, arteta is hay the greatest tackler in the world. He also picks up lots of yellow cards for silly fouls. Perhaps every time either of hem pick up a yellow for tugging back a player unessecarily wenger should fine some of their wages.

{Ed025's Note - or ruffle up his perfect hair.. :)

19 Aug 2015 07:12:16
Iv said all along we will see why this year he has never played a full season for us. He came back was a hero last year but I can't see him keeping it up. He will end up a squad player again.

He should of been sent of 100percent very lucky boy. Him and cazorla and the shortest pairing around :( get a big boy in

18 Aug 2015 18:05:28
Hi ed,you said arsenal will likely sign only a striker this window,about our first choice DMF,is it william carvalho and will we sign him on January since he will recover on December,thanks

{Ed002's Note - The priority is a forward. And I have spent the summer explaining about Carvalho.}