Arsenal Banter Archive May 19 2016

 

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19 May 2016 15:45:54
Are we failed with Xhaka?

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19 May 2016 23:12:50
He's in London this evening.

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19 May 2016 23:43:53
Let's hope it's a sign of the club doing their business early for a change, definitely don't want a repeat of 2011!

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20 May 2016 00:51:02
It would be an awesome coup, he ticks every box.

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20 May 2016 07:51:46
Hope it gets done quickly. Would be surprised if not tho. On top of my head podolski, alexis, Cech, elneny. They all took so long to complete didn't they?

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19 May 2016 10:15:14
That was a great insight ed 002. Thank you for taking the time. It's obviously new information to is but this is nothing new to the powers that be whether your in charge of fees at Madrid or Oxford Utd, you know the process so you need to have all the bases covered. This does not now all of a sudden give Wenger and Gazidis a reprieve for some of the monumental cockups and cat and mouse catastrophic episodes of slow playing deals to the point of actually making the player feel undervalued. See Mata and Higuain for example, forget how we slowrolled the deals to save on 1 or 2 million, we gave the other rival bidding clubs the platform to convince those players, and players like them in similar failed deals, that they were wanted more by them. so that's how our eyes get wiped so often. The reality is that so many other clubs are able to get their deals done much faster than Arsenal. History confirms this.

Arshavin basically came to London himself to force the deal through, he had more desire than the club, I remember him at a Snowey London airport on Sky Sports news getting into his lift. The deal wasn't confirmed for another week after. We are notoriously laboured in sealing these deals unless the majority of the running is done by the player. and we all know Zlatan (and players of his ilk) don't do the running in these deals. This day and age their charging prices and merchandising everything at this club to take into account the costs associated with the modern day inflated costs attributed to signing big players. their actually charging above that, and are still failing to deliver it even attempt to go out and sign what is required and put a compelling case for a move to a world class player. I used to think this was because of Wengers moral code of what he thought was the right and wrong way to approach another player in respect of the parent club, but the sanctioning of the forty mill plus one pound bid for Suarez put paid to that theory. It's apparent that Wengers own ego forbids him from going that extra mile to massage that of the difficult modern day types.

The world class players we've signed recently were all made feel surplus to requirement by their clubs, I. e Ozil, Sanchez and Cech. We didn't kick down their Clubs door and turn their heads with an offer they couldn't and a refuse and with a desire that made them feel a positive vibe from us. We had the money and they came because Wenger considered them to be Value for that money. Right now if we spend massive for Lukaku or Morata I would lose my mind. Icardi is available for twenty million less and is a more rounded robust option and open to massive improvement, their are many like him aswel, Gameiro or Griezeman are quite CF target men but I just can't abide this notion that finding players is so difficult.

It's more propaganda from a club who've perfected the smoke and mirror effect on their own fans. Who's not spending out money; 'it's Wenger', ' no its Stan', ' no, bros, it's Gazidis'. No its all the above because its a consensus between them that has been cultivated by Wenger because all they know is his methods because they havnt overseen another manager's approach at Arsenal so they go with what is reaping financial reward because they can't take the risk needed and value the money above that of showing the player he is who they want.

We should be signing both Icardi and Lacazette even this summer and sending Giroux to the glue factory. The very fact the guy cups his ears after scoring two in one game when he previously gone 15 without one tells you all you need to know about him.

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19 May 2016 13:06:39
Good post Shambo.

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19 May 2016 18:28:10
Nice read and agree shambo.

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20 May 2016 17:20:09
Good post. I was very pro Icardi until I realised he was slow.

I think we need mobility up from. If you look at the some of the more recent intimidating attacks now, they have pace and movement.

Neymar - Suarez - Messi
Ronaldo - Benzema - Bale
Rues - Auba - Mkhitkarian
Robben - Ledanowski - Muller

At the moment we aren't far.

Sanchez - [Giroud] - TBC

We have options for TBC:
Iwobi/ Walcott/ Ox/ Wilshere (if Fit)

So mobile forward, that can lead the line, shows strenght, etc.

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