Arsenal Banter Archive May 01 2016

01 May 2016 21:52:08
Vrooom, just the raver coming through in his Subaru, my car is spluttering and conking out but there is life left in the old banger just like my football club. If we lose tomorrow I will have to do a insurance job on the motor just to get my frustration out.

01 May 2016 21:57:25
Raver,
There's a very good insurance company in Leicester if you are interested mate?

#enjoythechelseawin.

01 May 2016 22:01:13
Hello raver see your stuck with poch for five years hope he's not a brendan rodgers clone, well no that's not true, i hope he is. Three tough games left for your chokers mate, but joining us big boys in the champs league.

01 May 2016 19:30:24
On positive note I'm no longer expecting the quite low spending summer I was a few weeks ago from Arsenal, I think some kind of ambition for on the field success will deffinately be shown by the club this summer window :-)

01 May 2016 20:57:26
That's all we ever wanted in the first place mate.

01 May 2016 13:11:04
I saw nothing wrong with yesterdays protest, it was calm, no swearing and to the point. You can't say no banners, or you say no banners when there are praising ones, you can't have both ways, otherwise you will
Have to have banner police, which is just silly. People are saying it is disrespectful, well so is the way wenger treats and bats people around with his dismissive i'm in charge i'm the messiah attitude. I go when i'm ready, is aloof and arrogant to some people. From my point of view it is not to much to say, no club in the world with title ambitions would ever allow a manager so long in the job without success. He has point blank refused to spend money, for what? While we could get a manager who could take us back, we could just as easily get one that could unlock the potential that is there to get this club challenging for titles. Our team constantly fades after getting into contention every year at the same point season after season, its not unreasonable to expect more when you can see the potential that is being wasted. Tactically he is just not I the same league as most and our football now is stale and boring. If we have to put up with this impotent sterile football for much longer then we will become mid table not top table. Top players are not going to choose us we do not challenge, we won't attract top talent, with a manager who can't complete the job ( please don't mention the fa cup, would you want van gaal, martinez or pardew ) It is not wrong to want after about 80 mil in wages 20 years service and past retirement age to want to get someone to take us on to a place wenger most definately cant. After yesterday I also think the players are struggling to grasp what they are expected to do, what was that with sanchez and wenger at the end of the game. We aren't creating chances now ( welbeck goal first shot on target ) and we are not too solid at the back either. There are fans media and ex players questioning his abilities now and that is damming and damaging because he isn't giving any amunition to fight back, his tactics and decisions are scrutinised more than any other manager and the support for him is waining badly and that is not right.

01 May 2016 13:27:29
Post of the day

well done.

01 May 2016 13:51:03
Thanks malaga and never knocked people who had a different opinion either for effect.

01 May 2016 16:35:23
It was absolute class by Arsenal fans especially when DT and co started singing that chant about being happy when Wenger dies in May.

01 May 2016 17:57:17
wesley not all arsenal fans who want change wish harm on wenger.

i just want change, that doesn't make me scum bag.

01 May 2016 18:58:49
Malaga it's fans like you i understand and respect your opinion. It's just the ones that are going overboard with this protest.

01 May 2016 19:16:35
Anyone wishing personal harm on Arsene needs to reevaluate their lives and stay away from football completely for their own and every one else's good.
For every Arsene out fan who wishes Arsene harm their are 10s of thousands who deplore the stupidity of the very idea of that.
Equally for every Arsene in fan who feels the premier league should be renamed the Arsene Wenger premier league there are 10s of thousands of Arsene in fans who are capable of being rational.
These tiny tiny % of each sides totally extreme views on the Arsene in/ out debate shouldn't be used to try and discredit the vast majority of people who don't happen to share your opinions.

01 May 2016 19:23:34
But those people are on both sides D mate let's be fair, for every extreme nutter on the out side these an equally deranged supporter on the in side, thankfully the vast majority of us are a lot more sensible than to resort to such stupidity.

01 May 2016 13:02:39
I don't understand the fans at all. I see them quoting Claudio Ranieri, but they also want to buy Arsene to buy a 200 million player. I still believe it's not the players but the system which is hurting Arsenal. Of course, we need a better striker, and that's that. What we need a lot more urgently is the better system and play the players who rightly suit that system.

01 May 2016 10:52:18
This is a big club. You get your chance as a player, you underperform in series of matches, you lose your place. Every other player is knocking on the door. However, haven't seen anything wrong with Campbel's play this season yet he isn't playing. I thought he really gave outstanding performances when he had his chances. No one should be guaranteed a starting place. Everyone is equal in my eyes hence hardwork should buy a place for a player.

01 May 2016 11:33:27
I don't understand either.

01 May 2016 11:42:57
Must be some reason is Arsene really someone to just drop someone? Bellerin coquelin iwobi Gabriel monreal all was not first choice at some point and when they've come in and done well they've all had a decent run in the team. Is a mystery but who do you drop for him? Iwobi or alexis? Saying that the amount of times he has put Walcott on instead of him mystifies me lol.

01 May 2016 11:50:43
Puzzles me that SLB. He's good in the final third, got a great passing range (especially through balls) , can score and create chances. Overall, works hard. We always seem to win matches when he's on due to his abilities. IMO though.

01 May 2016 12:37:00
What's welbeck done wrong, what's coq done wrong as well. No rhyme or reason.

01 May 2016 12:55:47
I'm seriously fed up of this guy steve moaning on and on every single day about wanting Wenger out. There hasn't been a day that he has shut up ever. Never gave Wenger a chance all season, has been wanting him out from last transfer window and the sad thing is him and g62 have been the loudest ones out here. Likewise the wenger out brigade have been the loudest everywhere else drowning out others opinions. They started as a few and have now started getting support because they have been loudest and no one wants to go against the trend. Sad, disrespectful, and ungrateful to a man who has done a lot for the club. I hope this gets posted.

01 May 2016 13:08:41
Wesley Steve and the people that want Wenger out do have their own voice and it should be heard it's what they think is best. Although I do disagree the way they go about it.

Steve it does seem to me you are finding anything to criticise Wenger for. Welbeck had been injured so long so he won't start every game. And teams like the last few we've played sit Back which is where giroud is better due to aerial balls. Although granted he has been very out of form. As for coquelin elneny seems to have taken his place and rightly so. Ramsey has now taken elneny's place as there's no point having 2 DM on the pitch unless it's due to lack of players which isn't the case now. I just wish people stop just having digs at Wenger for every little thing he does.

01 May 2016 13:22:16
Wesley the fact that people didn't give Wenger a chance erm. has actually proved right. let's call it the Wenger change as I posted early all we have is mediocrity i'm afraid. argue against it? There isn't even the FA Cup to shout about this season.

01 May 2016 13:47:35
Wesley I won't even lower myself to answer that. Disgraceful.

01 May 2016 13:52:26
D 16 I don't use excuses I use what I see.

01 May 2016 14:21:28
That's fair enough Steve. For me people are right to criticise him. But we don't want it being a witch hunt. Let's be honest how many at home was getting angry at him when he took iwobi off for giroud? Bet it was a lot. But in truth it was a good sub as it won us the game. Also bet hardly anyone will give him credit for that. Almost seems like some want him to fail and do wrong. Not Arsenal
Just him of course.

01 May 2016 14:55:31
D16, the decision you are on about, depends how you want to look at it, you can look at it your way or you could look at it being a mistake not to start welbeck but if i say that would that be picking on wenger or opinion.

01 May 2016 09:21:37
Right, here we go. I've not posted on here for a long time. I've happily did a Malaga and sat in the shadows and watched this site. Frustrated at times with comments i have kept my keyboard away from me. However i'm slightly (ok i'm really) disappointed with 'some' arsenal fans (proposed) . The way they handled Arsene yesterday at the emirates was beyond disgraceful in my eyes. Do these Arsenal fans understand that we're being laughed at the way we treat the man who has made us 'progress', yes i said a swear word 'progress'! Some might say we're being laughed at because Leicester, a relegation candidate last year will win the league but we're 3rd in the league in front of 17 other teams and we're are treating our manager as if we're Aston Villa or Newcastle. I understand protesting is a way for 'proposed' fans to get their point across, but what actually does it prove/ change? errr nothing. Not a mystic meg but i will tell you what will happen, Wenger gets pushed out by the fans and then you will see what Wenger did at the club, we will be the new Crystal Palace. Then you will get the Wenger haters having amnesia spouting tripe as such as, "We should have kept Wenger". Please, please, please. Look what happened to Newcastle, Aston Villa, Fullham, look where they are now. Yesterday, Sanchez got subbed because Wenger could stiffen up the defence bringing Coq on, Wenger got booed, Sanchez wasnt happy, and obviously the booing would defend Sanchez being upset for being subbed so knowing the fans agreed with him he walks down the tunnel (hes not injured) . So with that display of affection for Wenger, wouldn't it make you as a player not want to be in that atmosphere? Sanchez is our best player, standard, but the diplay of these fans are only going to make the club go backwards. Think about it. You complain we don't spend the money, but what world class player in his right would want to come here when the fans act like that? If you were applying for a salesman job but you read on the internet that the customers hated the company and consistently slated it for different reasons depending on what day it was (Sorry but we/ you do bitch about anything) , you would think, mmmm i don't fancy working there. Sorry for the sporadic rant but its being building up. You want Wenger out, what Managers are out there? c'mon what manager can replace our Manager? Simeoni? Low? Pellegrini (really? ) who else or have i missed anyone? Out of those 3 possibly, and i'm being seroius when i say possibly Simeoni, but he's untested in the premier league and doesn't speak one iotta of English (neither did Pellegrini) , my point is there is no one to replace Wenger so its pointless trying to bully him out. To summarize, (if you're still here reading) we need to treat our team, players, badge, history and most importantly Arsene with respect. Protesting does nothing in my eyes except make the team go backwards not forwards, and advertise the next manager that this is what you will get for 20 years service at the club. If we come out next Sunday and play crap I wouldn't be surprised being mentally tortured by some fans of the club. I expect to get hammered by some or maybe all of my points but it needed to be said.

{Ed025's Note - i think you make some really good points daywalker and having your say is what this site is all about mate..you need to post more often imo..

01 May 2016 09:36:42
Never a truer word spoke from a passionate fan.
The real fans are bigger then the few Wenger out bully boys.

01 May 2016 09:55:08
welsh gooner

what gives you the right to say you are anymore an arsenal fan than the people who want change.

i have traveled to most parts of europe to follow a team i love

since when has freedom of speech been a crime

i take offence to your post.

{Ed025's Note - its just guys expressing an opinion malaga which is what its all about really, try not to take things personally mate as its only how different people see things..

01 May 2016 10:11:07
Very good post and Well said daywalker, I believe a change must be made, it doesn't have to be wenger although his time will come to end but maybe his stubbornness and faith he's given to some players. We are creating chances but we need some one to score them amd the defence need a little tweak.
The fans must stick with there team no matter what, look at Dortmund they struggled big and the yellow wall never turned any other colour.

01 May 2016 10:05:13
ed025, i'm all for people expressing opinions and respect some 1 elses opinion, because its what makes the site so great, but welsh gooner is out of order.

{Ed025's Note - its just his opinion as i see it malaga and not a direct insult to yourself, if i felt it was i would not allow it as i dont tolerate personal attacks on other posters, the tv showed a lot of discontent between factions in the crowd and there is a split within the supporters on how they want the club to proceed on the matter but it has to be done in the right manner, arsenal are a well respected club and are being shown in a very bad light at the moment mate..

01 May 2016 10:50:11
I don't see it that way Malaga he is expressing himself and has a right to do so as a fellow brother of our club.

01 May 2016 12:03:59
I think there is a division between the supporters because the club is stagnating and the easiest way for fans to show their frustration is to focus on the manager. One day there will be a change of manager, enforced or not and only then can we appreciate what Wenger has done for our club. I have no doubt that he loves our club but sometimes I just can't justify his excuses any more. I get the feeling sometimes that there is something going on behind the scenes at the club that we are unaware of, what that is I'm not sure of but it would explain the lack of ambition to improve our squad at the start of this season. I think the club has to recognise that other teams in the league are getting stronger and that in order for us to stay at a level where we can challenge, a new direction has to be taken, especially in our attitude where I feel our club has too many people comfortable in the knowledge that not much is expected of them but the bare minimum. If next season is to be Wengers last, I hope he instills a ruthless determination in the players and that they give him the success his loyalty deserves.

01 May 2016 12:14:06
Nice post DW

Couldn't agree more

Malaga man up mate, DW or Welsh didn't attack you mate they just said the banner boo boys are disrespectful which they are.

Wenger will be here next season then he's gone and should be shown a lot more respect then what's being given to him right now. Us fans need to support Wenger for one more season whilst he's here then he'll leave n we'll all see what a great manager he really was

Don't take things so personally people

It's opinions :)

01 May 2016 12:20:15
We are all entitled to our opinion and we have to respect others views. I have backed Giroud for months and got stick for it by a few. Giroud is bloody awful at the minute and yet still being played by Wenger, yet some of you who gave me stick are not having a bad word said about Wenger. How does that work.

Very good post by Daywalker but blimey don't ever say we will be like Palace, out 'pulling' power is far too strong. Villa / Newcastle or Fulham, not sure I get that either too be honest.

If Arsenal aren't going to change Managers and Wenger signs a new deal then its clear mediocrity is acceptable . We haven't progressed at all since moving from Highbury, we knew there would be some tough years but aren't we suppossed to be through those and now have money to spend and challenge? I do expect Wenger to see his contract out and after that I expect him to take up a new role within the club. Chelsea have improved since a change of Manager and IMO Liverpool will keep improving we are in a rut at the minute and it needs a bit of a shake up.

Daywalker mentioned about Managers not being able to talk one bit of English. look at Poch, he hadnt a clue about the Prem or our language, he has done very well and will continue to do so .

Just opinions and we are all entitled to them.

Have to say and I mentioned this yesterday the protest during the game wasnt a good thing and poor timing .

01 May 2016 12:49:55
Thanks Ed.

Malaga - chill out, you're acting like a Spurs fan; it was my opinion and not directed (unless you were one of the boo boys yesterday showing lack of respect) .

01 May 2016 12:52:19
Thanks Welshgooner - from a passionate fan to another.

01 May 2016 07:37:26
This is a rant sorry lol
I Was Saddened By What I Saw At The Emirates yesterday, the way Wenger has been vilified is unbelievable. Am angry at him as well but to disrespect a man who has done so much for our great Club is disheartening to say the least

he has been degraded to a dimwitted halfwit by some fans, its really unfathomable to see Wenger treated this way by our own. This is the man who immortalised the Arsenal and made us invincible, we are in the CL every season thanks to him. Yes we have been stagnant for years but it feels like the man is now a victim of his own success earlier.

This is the same man (if you choose to believe him) turned down offers from Real Madrid, Barcelona and Man City and practically sacrificed his best years to ensure that we stay afloat, knowing full well that he would draw the ire if fan. We had to sell our best players, i don't know any other manager who would have stayed

I too believe his time maybe up, but he deserves to leave on his own accord, He has at least earned that. There is Only One Arsène Wenger.

30 Apr 2016 23:15:28
Ozil has created 137 scoring chances this season, a 12 year PL high.

Oh, Suarez Suarez, wherefore art thou Suarez?

01 May 2016 07:06:53
Dags he would have filled his boots, Mind you Ian wright would do now too.

30 Apr 2016 23:10:17
CTR can we have your season thoughts please! As allways a pleasure.

01 May 2016 08:16:38
I don't think Chris will reply.

He has been asleep for past 7 months watching Manchester United :-)

{Ed025's Note - he may be on honeymoon dags..