Arsenal Banter Archive December 20 2018

 

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20 Dec 2018 23:18:39
Jurgen Klopp has spent 112 million more than has been raised through sales.
Over 3 years that's less than 40 million a year net spend.

When you look at those figures mega money doesn't seem quite the be all and end all we sometimes kid ourselves It is.

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21 Dec 2018 07:18:49
They do buy well! Mane Firminho and Salah all for the price of a Pogba or a Lukaku! For us Torreira a great buy andGuendouzi so have confidence in Unai going forward . COYG.

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21 Dec 2018 09:15:05
Me too Sussex mate i think the current Arsenal set up Emery/ Sven and co partnership have done a brilliant job so far with all 5 signings they've brought in proving assets.
Liverpool have a 3 year head start but if we chip away window by window we can compete again.

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21 Dec 2018 10:03:37
Perhaps the key G62 is that Liverpool have spent a lot of money on players they really needed, and that should be a lesson to us. Once Klopp decided they needed a decent center half and keeper they went out and splashed the cash, buying expensive but proven players, and they have benefited greatly from it. Also, despite having multiple midfielders and attackers they still went and got Shaquiri, who has proved a good signing so far, especially after the Man Utd game. Compare that to us, who i suspect will go out and try and find a bargain bucket center half (Chris Smalling anyone) when we really should splash the cash on a worldie who will replace Kos over the longer term. Also we are about to let Ramsey go, and if you read today's press, perhaps Ozil too, but not in my opinion, necessarily based purely on footballing reasons, but i fear more down to just trying to save a few bob in wages. I was hopeful we would bring in a decent replacement for Ramsey, but i suspect that will not be the case.

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21 Dec 2018 10:51:28
Hi Epping mate, if I remember rightly Klopp spent very little in his first few windows preferring to work with and find out what he did and didn't have already, it's only last January and this summer they have really splashed the cash on two big money signings, Salah wasn't seen as a huge signing in summer 2017.
Liverpool built well and spent smart first and only when the foundations were solid enough to support and accommodate the more luxurious signings did they really splash out.
We are still at the clear out stage and we mustn't expect to match what others have achieved over time instantly, we are not mega rich we can't simply splash out on all we would like instantly but niether are we poor we are very much like Liverpool, a big club that has huge advantages over most other clubs and have all we need to become a real force again but just not as quickly as some would like.
I think after 3 seasons it will be fair to judge this current Arsenal management set up and board one way or the other.

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21 Dec 2018 11:47:50
It’s not just the spending. Klopp has raised the levels of a lot of the player he inherited as well.

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21 Dec 2018 13:12:32
Anything Klopp can do Dick can do better:-)
Jurgen is brilliant and has done brilliant but he ain't no Dick Emery!

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21 Dec 2018 14:40:35
What has jurgen won.

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21 Dec 2018 15:57:20
What have Ole or red hot favourite Poch won? Feck all! Klopp out of the three for me.

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21 Dec 2018 16:02:58
The thing what set spuds up, selling Bale and reinvesting, what set pool up selling coutinho and reinvesting. It helps if you have a player of galactico proportion and can reinvest. Obviously the secret is the right players.

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21 Dec 2018 16:04:05
I know 12, you would rather have maureen because he's won something.

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21 Dec 2018 16:12:32
Leahy,

Fergie arrived in 86, won his first league title 7 years later was it. I guess that slipped your mind. 🙄😂.

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21 Dec 2018 17:32:28
jurgens won the bundesliga?

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21 Dec 2018 19:24:59
What has anyone in the premier league won bar Gardiola?

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21 Dec 2018 19:37:25
Ranieri at Fulham 62, sure he won the Premier League. 😉.

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21 Dec 2018 19:45:38
I'm glad Maureen is gone, klopp is a good manager no doubt, but you have to be winning cups to put him in the bracket your putting him like in,
I'll be happy if ole sorts the dressing room out and he will know who to get rid of after a few months.

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21 Dec 2018 19:46:09
Pellegrini at West Ham 62. 😁.

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21 Dec 2018 20:06:40
Yes well obviously i meant excluding Pellgini and Ranieri, goes without saying:-) But who other than Pep currently in the premier league has ever won anything in English football :-)
obviously if there is anyone else I meant beside them a well :-)

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21 Dec 2018 20:09:55
Oh an Benitez has won the Champions League.

Leahy he should know already he only has about 4 players worth a toss in that squad and that’s being generous.

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21 Dec 2018 20:16:28
There is only a hint of klopp bitterness i detect 12. Obviously ole is on a level footing with klopp. Lol.

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21 Dec 2018 20:28:20
Agree with you stoner, ole is the only passing through steve.

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21 Dec 2018 20:28:55
Yes there is Benitez, but apart from Benitez Pellgini and Ranieri you name me 1 other current premier league manager who has won anything with a premoer league team apart from Pep Gardiola:-)

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21 Dec 2018 20:31:26
No sorry you’ve stumped me 62. 😂.

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21 Dec 2018 20:46:22
I know mate its quite astonishing that if you forget about all the others there is only Pep who has actually won anything :-)

Not many people know that:-)

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21 Dec 2018 20:58:55
Haha 62 apart from Ranieri Benitez Pellegrini what else have the Roman’s ever given us! COYG.

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21 Dec 2018 21:27:39
Does winning the french league and three europas count.

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21 Dec 2018 21:51:39
I've always had a knack for the spectacular Sussex mate, when I'm wrong I'm usually spectacularly wrong :-)
And without blooming my own guitar I'm pretty consistently spectacular, as my missus will very willingly tell anyone :-)

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20 Dec 2018 07:52:30
Surely if we haven’t won a first half all season then the managers tactics are to blame, go one nil down to the big boys and we have no chance of winning the games, somthing needs to be done, and no this isn’t a panic post we haven’t won a first half all season so it’s no because we have lost two games in a row Iam worried.

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20 Dec 2018 08:52:06
I think we are all concerned about that stat Welsh mate, like Arsene I will give Dick time but if it carries on for 5 to 7 years without Emery addressing our obvious weaknesses and we slip into a whole new groundhog day then I will have no choice but to join the Dick out campaign :-)

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20 Dec 2018 15:49:47
It could be the tactics welsh, yes, but it could also be the players. There is still a massive wenger presence of players that, while they are still there will not be good enough or able to buy into Dicks philosophy. When all the players are Dicks and he has his stamp fully on the team, that's when full judgement can be made. The improvements he has made so far are obvious. We have gone from being the least hardest working team in the league as far as miles run, to the most. The problems are not going to disappear overnight but he needs a solution some how, to our slow starts. i'm frustated big style but i accept the previous regimes dreggs are not going to go overnight.

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20 Dec 2018 22:36:44
Simple

Licht ( Holding in future ) , Mustafi ( Kos / Greek dude in future ) , Sokratis

Maitland-Niles. Granit Torriera Kola


Ozil

PEA Laca.

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21 Dec 2018 02:45:00
Is it simple, not sure about mustaffi, kos, or holding, maitland not ready, xhaka, need i say and Ozil just doesn't fit. 100% front two though. I think i trust Dick a little more. Lol.

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20 Dec 2018 07:51:33
Disappointing performance last night. On the positive side, we will now have fewer matches to contend with than 3 of our rivals for a top 4 spot and the semi-final draw means the Toot have to beat Chelsea and in all likelyhood Man City in order to lift a desperately needed trophy. Whilst strong rumours that their trophyless manager is off to Man U in the summer.
On a different note, we need to get behind the team at the weekend and get back to winning ways.

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20 Dec 2018 09:01:26
I don't think anyone's changed their opinion on Dick over the last few days mate, those who were 100% behind him still are and those who were yet to be convinced remain so and of course those who simply don't like him because he's not Arsene will never like him for that one reason no matter what he does. ( Not aimed at you SY mate i know you want both Arsenal and Emery to be successful )
I'm sure the atmosphere will be extremely positive at the weekend and we will indeed get back to winning ways.

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20 Dec 2018 11:37:13
What positives we lost Iam sure we wanted to win that game and the cup, well I did.

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20 Dec 2018 15:19:24
No disrespect Welsh mate but we have much more pressing priorities than the league cup fa cup or europa league to think about.
Firstly get back in the top 4.
Next actually compete for the premier league title again.
Then actually compete in the champions league rather than simply make up the numbers.
The domestic cups are all very nice but they don't come close to being a real competitive force in the premier and champions leagues again.

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20 Dec 2018 15:56:46
In the great scheme of things, winning the carriboo cup over CL qualification is no interest to me. The league is and has always been the yardstick and important issue, the cups are a day out and sometimes a distraction. With our injury issues, the last thing for me would have been hard battles against chelski and citeh for the cariboo cup. Its nice to win but really pretty irrelevant if it impacts on the rest of the season. Cup games are one game shoot outs and the league is the test. Performing in the league every week is the first and foremost most important thing.

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20 Dec 2018 16:49:47
We simply have to become relevant again when discussing the title first and champions league ultimately.
Only one team can ever win the title but Arsenal Liverpool United City Chelsea need to be serious contenders or they are under achieving and questions are quite rightly asked of them.

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20 Dec 2018 19:30:02
The league comes first gunner, once that's sorted, then cups become more important.

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