Arsenal Banter Archive August 21 2017

21 Aug 2017 19:56:08
Also. I'm not happy we lost against stoke don't get me wrong, but Liverpool spurs and Chelsea have also all dropped points

Let's stop moaning and get behind our team, make them want to play for us by cheering them every up and down.

21 Aug 2017 20:30:35
It does help WG some fans think that these pieces of crap should play with everyone booing because they get paid enough.

21 Aug 2017 20:54:24
The reason we are moaning is because Wenger has played two LB's at CB for both matches. Against Leicseter we had little option, whereas against Stoke we had Mertesacker on the bench and Chambers was nowhere to be seen. The defence has been poorly set up with RB playing at LB and no true LB as both were at CB. We clearly need a couple of proper CB's and I can't see us buying one, never mind two!
Most fans would agree that against Liverpool we need to play Mustafi, Merte and Kos as the three centre backs. Coquelin and Xhaka as DM's playing deep to protect the back three and Bellerin at RWB and Kolasinac at LWB. Ox could play instead of Ozil whi has been poor and Sanchez brought back. The team needs shape and a proper defensive structure,

21 Aug 2017 20:59:54
Go on Sanogo 😁😁.

21 Aug 2017 21:02:07
I don't get anyone who wants to boo their team or an individual during a game, it has never helped anyone improve.

Like taking your son to play football and berating and shouting at him throughout the match and wondering why he has zero confidence and is afraid to make the slightest mistake. It makes you a cockwomble.

Boo afterwards to show your unhappy with the performance but don't talk bow locks about needing something to cheer about, there are plenty of clubs fans who sing and get behind there team no matter what's going on. Palace are just one good example.

Create an atmosphere that inspires instead of hinders your side.

21 Aug 2017 21:37:38
Top post Stoner.

Well said.

21 Aug 2017 23:05:09
Why go to all that expense to boo your team, simply stay away if your not happy with the service they provide until the service improves again, what could be easier? What ever is the point of going to a restaurant where you don't enjoy the food they are currently serving just so you can complain to the owner about it.
If you feel so strongly disappointed you need to boo instead of cheer it's time for a break.
WHEN THE FUN STOPS, STOP!

22 Aug 2017 07:10:35
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Iv never spoken to any fan who claimed its ok to boo their own fans at any point simply because they earn large wages. the distortion and lengths some lads go to to avoid discussing something while they look for hi fives is hilarious.
Whats next someone says Welbecks finishing is poor and you get labeled racist?
Waste of good time debating anything on here.
Goodluck lads.

22 Aug 2017 07:35:12
United won their first 3 games last year and finished 6th. City and Liverpool started like trains and then faded badly. There was talk of Contr being sacked as Chelsea had such a bad start and they won the title.

Not saying you will win the title but 2 games is far too early to be drawing conclusions.

22 Aug 2017 08:30:01
A lot of people thought you would win it before a ball was kicked so I don't think anyone is getting carried away by your 2 wins even if they are by impressive shorelines.

21 Aug 2017 18:51:18
While I think ox is a better right wing back than bellarin, seeing as the latter is staying, will not cashing in on ox, restrict reis Nelson and consign him to be gnabried. Don't want the ox to go but with bellarin staying it looks like another promising youngster may be pushed out. Ox and bellarin should occupy that slot between them for a while, neither of them old.

21 Aug 2017 19:21:50
Nelson is very much a forward player though, and shouldn't be anywhere near rwb imo. But that won't stop wenger playing him there.

21 Aug 2017 19:44:32
Nelson certainly looks like he has the potential to bring more to the party than the Ox, he's just scored again for the U'23's which is something the Ox doesn't do enough of.

I think if Nelson gets game time in the Cups and does well then like Bellerin I think Wenger would give him his debut in the league.

21 Aug 2017 20:33:30
When Hector Belerin is our least consistent and weakest player we will be a very very much improved team the likes of which we haven't seen for years.
The lad is an excellent full back playing in a very very inconsistent unestablished miss mash defence with next to no mf defensive cover.
We should be so lucky to have him as our biggest weakness.

21 Aug 2017 20:57:17
I find Bellerin to be overrated. Being a winger converted into a wing back, he can't defend and his final ball is poor when attacking, Ox looks more promising offensively, but again he lacks defensively. On the left we have Kolasinac who can tackle and provide offensively. We need a new RWB.

21 Aug 2017 23:20:53
Luckily for Hector Barcelona and Arsenal over rate him and you don't rate him RG, lucky boy that Belerin :-)

22 Aug 2017 10:41:05
Doesn't he play up front for the under 23s?

21 Aug 2017 13:33:28
Jenkinson and Bramall off to Birmingham on loan. Jenkinson has 3 season left on his deal and clearly we were unable to sell him, so we had to loan him out.

21 Aug 2017 13:47:54
And the issue with that is? Teams loan out players all the time. Why make out like this is an issue exclusive to Arsenal?

21 Aug 2017 14:14:06
Rsharpe, your good at coming to conclusions aren't you?

I don't see how his post was making out this issue is exclusive to arsenal, he was just relaying facts.

21 Aug 2017 14:27:39
The issue is that we gave Jenkinson such a long deal at wages that were too high, making it impossible to sell him. Wenger calls this his socialist wage policy, which means that we give way too wages to very ordinary players, which causes a problem in the long run as we can't offload them. Hence we are stuck with: Gibbs, Debuchy, Campbell, Lucas, etc.

21 Aug 2017 14:35:53
Why not simply wait until 1st Sept before declaring who exactly we are stuck with.

21 Aug 2017 15:42:26
Olber, judging by RG's response, I graciously accept your apology. #bantz.

21 Aug 2017 16:25:38
Jenkinson going out on loan is not a problem, we loan him out to a championship club, he has a good year, and then we sell him. Because of his injury and lack of football its hard to find a buyer atm so this is the best step forward.

21 Aug 2017 16:47:35
And with that statement Olber, I can agree.

21 Aug 2017 17:00:59
The problem with keeping players such as Jenkinson on long term deals is that we end up having to loan them out when he has no real chance of making it at the club. On wages of £40,000 a week I doubt very much that we will able to sell him even if he has a good season. We seem incapable of working out which players won't make it and getting rid of them and hence clogging up the system, which has led to Wenger stating that he won't be signing any more players as he has 33. The problem is when you omit Cazorla as he has a long term injury, young players that are simply not ready or not good enough, players that Wenger wants out and the 3 contract rebels, the amount of players in the squad drops to around 18 players, 21 with the rebels. We desperately need a CB and a DM. My choices would be Van Dijk and N'zonzi or similar, They would bring so much to the team. Alas, as usual Wenger refuses to push the boat out and sign players of this ilk that we need,

21 Aug 2017 17:46:50
Agree with that Rg 👍.

21 Aug 2017 18:38:19
What can we do but like Stoner says wait and see what happens by the 1st, personally I still think he might pull a couple of signings out of the hat simply because logic says he should but as we all know with Arsene it doesn't always work that way.

21 Aug 2017 18:58:01
Gotta admit with the fees going around ATM, nzonzi would be a steal i'm pretty sure he has a £40m release clause and is exactly what we need. We need a cb but I have absolutely no idea who we could sign.

21 Aug 2017 10:24:51
Gads, you asked why I slag off Arsenal and love Spurs. I wasn't aware of either fo those things. I detest Leeds, Liverpool, and I really don't like Chelsea or City. Other than that I just like the banter and the laughs.

I actually like both teams. Despite the rivalry we had in recent years Arsenal play the game the way it should be played and Spurs, well I see Spurs as the cheeky rascals who are trying to join in with the big boys but ultimately we'll just ignore them.

Raver was a pain the ass last year on our page and we also had Gunnerbod poking us regularly, it's all good banter.

I find it hilarious that Gunnerbod spends so much time on your page, we found it best to ignore him and he eventually went away.

21 Aug 2017 10:44:50
Gads? Should have been Dags.

21 Aug 2017 10:52:22
We hardly ever bod on here!

21 Aug 2017 12:17:10
Just thought I'd correct Sanogo's typo.

"We hardly ever bond on here! "

There you go mate; fixed it for you.

By the way, you and stoner need to make the chat next game.

21 Aug 2017 12:39:16
Sharpie, that's because there is too much sniping and not enough banter. This site is about arsenal and the only sniping should be the visitors who come on here for a snipe.

21 Aug 2017 13:38:37
AJH,
Fair play to you mate.

Glad you aren't a closet Spud 😁.

21 Aug 2017 13:39:33
Some call it sniping some call it banter. Depends how you look at it. Where I come from banter is brutal and you tend to find the further north the more brutal it gets.

21 Aug 2017 13:57:23
Sniping? Really? I could have sworn most of us here were adults capable to handling words on a screen.

But that aside, my initial message about not bonding was a joke. A little sarcasm to lighten the mood. Just my way of trying to break up the monotony of having to read how bad our manager is in every second post. Did you see what I did there? I had a wee snipe!

21 Aug 2017 17:31:07
If I come on the chat you'll only snipe at me Sharpie! 😂😂.

21 Aug 2017 17:58:33
Stoner, this time remember to at least have on a pair of pants and I won't have to 😋.

21 Aug 2017 18:19:32
Now that's banter, that's funny.

21 Aug 2017 20:12:58
Stoner with no pants on isn't funny.

21 Aug 2017 06:49:08
I see no new players coming in the few days of the transfer window has to get rid of all the overpaid deadwood that he has accumulated . As for Alexis i stand by what i said a while back he will be sold on transfer deadline day. We go up to Stoke pass them off the pitch and lose, nothing changes heh!

21 Aug 2017 04:13:30
After a promising start to the transfer window, it has become disappointing, particularly in terms of CB's where we have allowed Gabriel to be sold for a paultry £10m and now have only 5 CB's' 2 are young and inexperienced, one of which we are prepared to sell for £20m (making Gabriel's $10m sale look even more baffling) and was part of relegated Middlesboro's defence last season. Of the three experienced CB's Mertesacker is retiring at the end of the season and Koscielny will enter his 33rd year in September and is playing with is tendon injury that requires daily treatment until the end of his career. Wenger's solution is to play our LBs at CB and we have conceeded 4 goals in two PL matches. Wenger has now stated that the squad has 33 players and is too large, so no more signings. Of the 33 I counted 11 that are injured, young and clearly not ready for the first team or clearly surplus to requirements. So the squad is really 22 players. Thankfully Koscielny returns from suspension, Mertesacker's head injury should be sufficiently healed to play.

20 Aug 2017 23:06:56
Opinions please. If we lose to liverpool do you's think wenger will panic and buy 1 or 2 decent players or keep faith in the team we have and hope they improve?

21 Aug 2017 06:47:18
Nope, I can't see Wenger buying. His obstinacy is pitiful and perhaps I was naive in thinking that he might have changed this season when we signed two players early in the window. The biggest PL spenders this season are Man C, Man U, Chelsea, Everton and not Arsenal who have only spent approx £50m, whilst having received in approx £25m.

21 Aug 2017 08:10:53
Personally I think Arsene has targets he still hopes to sign.
I don't think we will keep a Sanchez who so obviously doesn't want to play for us and lose 70 million for the privilege of being able to say ' told you so '
Should we lose to Liverpool and lose Sanchez without any new players coming in the atmosphere at the Emirates v Bournemouth would be pretty hostile towards Arsene and I simply can't see him inviting that on himself after last season's planes banners and demonstrations and to be fair I can't see the club letting him do it either.
I'm absolutely certain the club have no desire to invite fans unrest.

21 Aug 2017 09:56:59
It's not about how much you spend is it! Tell that to Leicester then!

21 Aug 2017 09:57:16
A few season ago spurs over £100m where are those players now then? And what did they achieve that year?

21 Aug 2017 10:48:42
It's good to see you can have a decent debate without letting your Spurs bias get in the way bod.
Leicester had a team spirit we last saw under George, not the best 11 individuals but together they made a great team.
George's team worked very very hard and had a collective discipline and togetherness and a manager who neither made or accepted excuses for or from his team.
If you ain't going to buy the best players then you definitely need a great mentality to win or even get close to the title.

21 Aug 2017 12:11:12
What's all this nonsense about making and accepting excuses? Do you seriously think Wenger sits about during his down time trying to conjure up his next excuse for losing a game?

In an interview, after the Stoke game, he said; "In football, if you lose a game that you should have won, you can only look at yourself. "

Yes, definitely sounds like a man making excuses.

Over the last 20 odd years (bar last season) , the worst the man has done for us is finish in the top 4 and brought us Champions League football. If you guys think that's bad, then I fear for our future as a club.

21 Aug 2017 12:23:47
Yes if we loose to Liverpool, it will be the end of the truce and action will be taken to appease the natives who will be getting restless.

21 Aug 2017 12:25:30
Like gunner says, a big, no gigantic two weeks for this club coming up.

20 Aug 2017 22:21:23
Kolasanic at lwb and bellerin at rwb, but wenger is so adamant on trying to prove the pc is a fantastic player he continuasually plays him at lwb/ rwb. (Followed on from last post hit sent by accident)