Arsenal Banter Archive December 21 2012

21 Dec 2012 21:38:00
an ideal january imo would be

theo to sign new deal and play upfront either the loan striker or with giroud or in a 3.just give him the extra 15 -20 grand -the guy gives us a lift and scares the sh*t out of the opposition, if he goes to another premiership club wenger should hang his head in shame.

sell chamakh bendtner denilson squillaci fabianski gervinho santos djorou and like, use the funds/wages to secure our current top stars and add buying potential to new buys

buy youngsters like luke shaw to secure our long term plans

add a quality defensive midfielder be it capoue mvilla wanayma or whoever someone who sits infront of the defence and breaks down opponents attack, has a presence and can knock teams of their rythmn without being sent off and makes simple passes to jack and santi...i dont want my defensive mid to think he is messi and ronaldo rolled into one and go on the attack 3 minutes into injury time while 1-0 up - just sit tight. coquelin and frimpong need more minutes on the pitch be it on loan or for the first team before we can judge them and feel comfortable they can carry out the duties of a defensive midfielder

buy a no nonsense defender who will let his presence be known and give the team a kick up the backside if it aint giving 100%, powerful in the air and quick on the floor.

possibly another forward be it demba ba or whoever to give us another dimension upfront. we have the aerial power of giroud, the speed of walcott, the robustness of podolski, just someone who can finish off chances. dont be scared to spend the cash mr wenger.

give bouldy more time to train the defence to defend, cut out zonal marking and be more ruthless.
wenger to install a fighting spirit in the team and that doesnt switch off half way through a game or wait till it is 1 nil down.

this team has alot of potential but no cohesion, they look around for someone to blame, they need to pick up responsibility and take a few chances and believe in their ability, the days of carrying players has gone we need 11 players singing from the same hymn sheet and subs who can come on and change the game

COME ON YOU GUNNERS STUFF WIGAN TOMORROW- ONWARDS AND UPWARDS

GS

Add zaha and sturridge to the long term plan along with forster

Wow - I have never heard so many football cliches in one post. Are you related at Alan Hansen?

Billybob

21 Dec 2012 20:17:44
Isco from Malaga anyone ?

Just won the Golden Boy award, he's class.

21 Dec 2012 19:27:27
Im not saying that this is 100% the reason why but..

Looking at the training session photos today, one stood out from the rest, it was the one where it is all the english/british lads (including walcott).

i think the lad will sign a new contract, sooner rather then later, i really cant see this streching through january where we run the risk of losing him.

thoughts?

21 Dec 2012 22:07:25
Jack in interview with Theo after the Reading game said he'd been trying to talk him into signing for ages so hopefully will. I did pick up on that photo too.

Stoner

21 Dec 2012 17:32:07
Is there any chance of us trying to sign isco from Malaga, they do have major financial issues and need the money ? Thoughts Eds ? {Ed002's Note - I would love to explain but sadly the situation is such where it is not possible. However, nothing much has changed so a search might give you an idea about Isco.}

21 Dec 2012 17:32:40
Seasons greeting my fellow Gunners!

As we approach the festive season allow me to begin by taking a moment to thank all of you and specifically the Ed's for a great site we can all participate on!

With all the wacky rumours residing over the club (and in particular now that Malaga is back, good to see you back mate) during this January window period allow me to enter my two pence on the topic.

I believe strongly that we have been under financial restraint since our move from Highbury. As such we looked to our youth to resurrect the glory that is Arsenal FC, unfortunately the circumstances of the markeplace changed. Fabregsas, Adebayor, Nasri and Van Persie were expected to lead the charge but new found wealth in clubs such as Chelsea, Man City coupled with increased spending from club such as Liverpool and Tottenham changed the landscape. In addition other clubs such as PSG brought even more new found wealth to the players wallets. All the while traditional powerhouses such as United, Barcelona and Madrid continued to spend magnanimously. Leaving the players with opportunities not presented during the time of the Invincibles.

Along this while the owner, board and manager decided to live within our means. As such some personnel decisions were made by the players (Fabregas, Nasri Van Persie). All left to pursue both financial and personal benefits.

During this period we have rebuilt and have maintained a decent position on all fronts while building a new stadium and renegotiating financial incentives for the club. Our manager Arsene Wenger I believe has done very well considering the circumstances of the marketplace (again he like us all is not without error, tactics, purchases can at time and rightly so be questioned). He has maintained the dignity of the club and has provided a new foundation for the club in a different financial marketplace that existed only 8 years ago.

As such I believe we are moving to a time in which our club which will be heavily influenced by English talent. I believe there is a belief amongst the club that English players have a greater loyalty to their respective clubs (Ie Gerrard, Lampard, Terry, Scholes).

I for one applaud this! I believe as we did in the past with Keown, Adams, Seaman, Parlour, Dixon and the many others that we need a strong English backbone! Im proud of the recent signings and I hope Theo will see this as well!

With regards to the many rumours I trust Arsene to make the right buys. I personally believe we need to move out those who are not part of the present and future of the club and bring in a strong DM, striker and coverage on LB/RB.

With that my friends I wish you all a wonderful festive season for you and your loved ones, its always pleasure to banter with all of you!

Gunners4Life, In AW we trust!

21 Dec 2012 21:21:34
It's been an pleasure to have read your posts over the last few weeks including this one which for me again is spot on, have a truly great one yourself.

Stoner

Cheers Stoner,

Its a great site, great club and great banter!

Best of wishes,

Gunners4Life, In AW we trust!

21 Dec 2012 17:10:22
Would anyone else here be happy with:

January - Huntelaar/Ba 5-10 mil, Zaha 10 mil
Summer - Ben Arfa 15-20 mil, Baines 15 mil,
M'Vila 10 mil?

Out: Chamakh, Denilson, Bendtner, Squilaci etc.

Nick.

21 Dec 2012 17:44:50
Nick, is Zaha really that good you'd want him to play for arsenal (never seen him play) and more importantly is he better than the Ox

A dm should be the no1 priority for this window. Capoue/de Rossi/ m'vila - then once we have one, see how strong/weak the team is defensively and assess what we really need in attack. Could be we sign a winger and play Podolski/Walcott upfront.

21 Dec 2012 13:57:18
I've never seen such a reaction to a post like that...

Messi will sign in January, youl all be sorry when I'm right, mark my words, he's coming, just believe me!

Malaga Gooner welcome back!

Nick.

You been on the mulled wine Nick?

You don't have the charm, Nick. you just don't. hate won't flow where you want it to. you need charisma for that.

psychocyst.

Its obvoiusly not going to happen but who reckons we'd win the league next season if we signed Messi. Could he carry us? I'd reckon it would we probably just about would.

People say it's impossible and yes it very unlikely.

However maybe Messi will reach a stage where he says you now what I have done everything I want to archive at Barca time for a fresh challenge.

If he wants a real challenge we should come to a team like Arsenal not money bags club like City that are now expected to win everything.
It certainly a challenge now to make Arsenal successful again, and one thing he would appreciate is that we are a team that likes to play good football in a Barca style even if we are not that effective at the moment trying to do it.

I don't think Messi is Money motivated and he would lead with his heart if were to leave Barca.

Yes Messi has a strong bond with Barca, but perhaps he think he needs a change. Imagine if Messi was a free agent now everybody would want him so he could freely pick and choose. You never know he may have soft spot for us and English football.

Psychocyst,

Im not trying to get people to hate anyone, I'm actually kind of happy that he's back. Even though they are all rubbish, it's still good to see a few rumours and 'inside source' posts on the site. Hence the 'welcome back'.

Nick.

21 Dec 2012 11:20:56
For all those who say Wenger has no control over transfer fees and wages

"I am happy to pay Theo the money he deserves but I feel as well that I bought him at 16 years of age and spent a lot of money on him,"
Arsene Wenger

21 Dec 2012 12:57:51
Yeah sounds like he bought him with his own money

Heck, i'm happy to pay Theo whatever he wants too. does that mean i get to call the shots too? you have to realise that guy signing the checks has to step forward and be willing to shoot over Wenger's shoulder to get Theo to sign if money really is the sticking point.

on the flip-side, yes, Arsene does run a tight ship as regards to the paycheck and he cleverly mentions the money "he deserves" instead of "wants". sadly, Walcott's contract situation is turning into a game of chicken and Arsenal are the ones who stand to lose more.

psychocyst.

Same article went on to say the board has to sign off wages and fees

The fact he has an input is expected but there is a ceiling that only the board approves

SY4

21 Dec 2012 07:54:34
I really hope we dont sign Demba Ba, Newcastle can get the very best out of average strikers, Andy Carroll for example
Wilmslow Gooner

21 Dec 2012 12:38:46
Average? Ba is only one goal behind rvp this season and he plays for a team in the bottom half.

Check his stats, he has scored hat fulls of goals wherever he has played, and he scores some stunners that he has no wright to!

If we were to make a move it would be a reasonable one, the only worry is his old knee injury. barring that total value for money. he will score in the pl. at 7.5mil its a good gamble if the goals get us in the champions league annd helps giroud bed in.although i would see if they take gervinho in return. theres no point in having too many players in key positions that are required to go off to the african cup of nations, either now or in 2 years from now.

21 Dec 2012 05:01:14
Don't see the hype about Diame, I mean if we want to win titles we can't be asking for these types of players.

May sound a bit harsh but if you want silverware you have to be ruthless,
Diame wouldn't make the bench at any of the Manchester teams.

Nick.

Have you ever watched him play? He would easily bench Barry, Garcia, Cleverley and Carrick, who are all starters...