Arsenal Banter Archive May 21 2017

21 May 2017 22:51:21
Kos misses the cup final after another sending off, how many is that this season? Is he losing a yard or just having to cover for to many others​.

21 May 2017 23:06:37
Surely he has to take full responsibilityfor his madness and wenger for not instilling sense into his players. Utter madness.

21 May 2017 23:51:37
Arsene wengers fault. Apparently everything is.

22 May 2017 00:30:27
D, how many players under wenger make rash stupid decisions, when they have no need? Its a coaching thing and he has to take some responsibility for his players stupid actions.

Bombast Over.

22 May 2017 01:48:19
lol I was messing around. He does need to take some responsibility yes.

22 May 2017 11:51:50
Fiestly i come in peace steve, resoect tour point, just discussing it.

If these circumstaces were different would we view this differently? Cantona under fergie never seemed to calm down. Even fergie admitted he couldn't control him. But he scored a lot too.

Big pat was partial to a leg breaker tackle every now and then for us too. Rush of blood to the head, nervous occasion. It happens, they're only human. The fact we were in the situation in the first place is the issue, Koscielny is just an unfortunate garnish.

I hear you though, arsenal are frustrating and a half right now.

22 May 2017 11:43:24
D, the ed dropped in "bombast over" lol.

{Ed033's Note - Sorry, couldn't help myself. Rant Over.

21 May 2017 20:47:46
So 5th it is!

I can hear the excuses already how Chelsea didn't have champions league and how injuries to Cazorla and Bellerin's new haircut haven't helped our season.

The club has been rotting for some time now and it's finally starting to show, we need a shake up from top to bottom.

The club's core principles have been wavering season after season, the net spend hasn't been anywhere near what it used to, and I know that football has changed and it's all money now, but Spurs have had 7m be spend and what a team! Arsene constantly speaking in riddles in the press just makes it hard to like him, just tell people what's going on!

The club needs a forward thinker, ideally a 20 year younger Arsene Wenger, a few years ago the job would have been a handsome one but now the likes of Monaco and Atletico Madrid being in the latter stages in the champions league and us not even getting in it this year and previous to this year getting embarrassed by Bayern year on year is getting beyond a joke.

The amount of deadwood seems to just get bigger every season and we always seem to be "2 or 3 players away" especially infuriating when you see the amount spurs spent on Dele Alli, Kane and Son. We can't seem to produce the players anymore, or find young talent and actually bring them in, Wenger seems to like to rub it in our faces by telling us how he almost signed Mbappe and a young ronaldo!

A shock to the system next year, it still hasn't settled in, but I'll be behind them no matter what, but honestly I hope there's a big change either the manager or the owner or board member.

21 May 2017 20:05:47
Liverpool fan here in peace
Well we all knew you guys would put a winning run together. We hoped you would deop some points but it never happend.
One point which seems to have been missed what would the outcome have been if wenger had not benched sanchez in the first half against us. You were awafulnin that first half and you practically gave us the 3 points sanchwz came on and changed the game wven though we got a 3rd at the death
Be good to hear your views on that match.

21 May 2017 20:21:03
So many ifs buts and maybes pal. Over 38 games the end possitions don't lie.

21 May 2017 19:55:57
Ok. so 5th! No surprises there! But i guess our transfer targets will change because of no champs league. hoping ed02 will do a sharkpod soon and give us an update.

{Ed002's Note - I will try but I am going to be travelling for about a month.}

21 May 2017 19:24:26
Well we did all we could to little to late but regardless of how it went down today it was the same before as it was after the game. Can't crawl out of the woodwork and Wenger hate because other teams didn't come through for us. Wenger a man who has lost his touch, the ability to influence a game, to be cutthroat and uncompromising, to adapt to the times and sadly the inability to take us any further! But he's not a fascist, a fraud, or an unpleasant human being! It's been disappointing and for the first time in 20 years we can hand on heart say that this is terrible! In the past it hasn't been good enough and disappointing but not terrible . Unfortunatly that's where we are today. But we can take comfort in the fact that in the last two decades it's the first time that it's been like this whilst every club bellow is and plenty of times the teams above us (including united who have fallen further more frequently) so that's how it is boys. Change please and change fast, let's try and add some class that's been missing from club, manager right to the fans in this time of need . Arsenal forever boys and like oscar wild said "we are all in the gutter but some of USB are looking at the stars"

COYG AFC Forever 👊💪🏻👍🏻.

21 May 2017 19:41:25
Fair summary that Sanogo and love the quote at the end mate.

21 May 2017 20:07:39
Nicely put mate and as g62 has said on many occasions we all simply want our Arsenal to be the best it can be.

21 May 2017 20:33:09
The seasons over now and in someways I'm glad. We now know the crack beyond reproach. Let's look forward to the FA cup and we can then all reassess. Hopefully calmly and objectively. We need to also respect even if we don't agree on any descisions made in the post season. Even if Wenger stays (and I hope that's not the case) I just hopeful that he can actually buy the players that will at least give us something to be hopeful about. I don't want to start next season in a situation where Wenger stays and the players brought in are not of the standard we need or would like. He must surely realise that if he does stay he's going to have to do something to appease the fans. All top clubs that are winning things have a healthy ballence between club, manager and fans, but the only person that can do that is Wenger. Maybe we will feel more sympathetic towards him if he at least try's to sort things out. Look at united they fell from grace and broke world records to get back to where they need to be. It hasn't worked out for them as yet but the realisation is there. I hope we're afforded the same luxury in the post season.

21 May 2017 18:15:08
It's poty coming through in his famous Subaru, well what a week for the raver watching spurs win easily, avoiding the police at whl last week while taking daz up my nose and being named poster of the year and you boys playing Europa dopa doo football next year. I just want to say as I'm holding this magnificent trophy 🏆 it's all for you boys as you are all winners.

21 May 2017 18:39:39
Congrats Raver mate, spurs have been outstanding all season.

83 days until the new season begins and we put you back in our shadows.

21 May 2017 18:57:19
Raver mate you have had a magnificent season, 86 points the league's top scorers plus conceded the fewest goals winning 17 of your 19 home games plus Harry Kane winning the golden boot despite missing over a quarter of the season? Almost any other season you would be very worthy premier league champions mate.
Sure some will say despite all this you didn't win a trothy and that is true but the last time I checked fans didn't get a medal or a trophy at the end of the season no matter what the team achieved on the field, the best value for money any fans can get is for thier team to be competitive and totally entertaining to watch throughout the season, the result of which will 9/ 10 bring trophies with it.
Your team have done you proud this season Raver mate and I've a feeling this is just the beginning for you boys and Poch :- (
Hey ho it's been a long time coming for you boys, enjoy mate and have a brilliant summer Raver.

21 May 2017 19:16:14
Genuine congrats Raver your boys have been immense and unlucky not to have gone that one step further.

See you next season fella.

21 May 2017 19:44:00
Congrats Raver on a fantastic season - the pain still goes on but you had a great season all be it second place which gets no medal

The only reason you didn't win was because of Chelsea's bloody amazing season. Record number of wins and some decent football.

Well done to the worthy Champs and congrats on pushing them.

21 May 2017 17:28:53
Oh well 5th and Spursday night football it is then, at the end of the season you finish were you deserve so no complaints. I can see Sanchez just running down the final year of his contract now to get a big pay day. Ozil may sign on simply because nobody seem interested in him at present.

We not really going to able to attract the players that will improve us now so I think we are kind of stuck unless big changes in ownership happen and Usamanov takes over.

21 May 2017 12:38:24
Its been reported that we are not getting a director of football but a performance overseer, a physical and injury overseer and a gofer, or what ever they are going to be called. They won't be actually be running anything, won't have any actual power and the manager will still pick what players that are bought and sold. If this is the big changes that are going to take this club to the top of the pile, what a big fudge job it will be. No wonder kronks other teams are bottom of the league ( two of them ) mid table ( two of them ) and third in the western league ( for tiddlywinks I think ) or are we going to be the pioneers for the great kronk spirting empire change for the top.

21 May 2017 18:00:48
im not a wenger in or wenger out, so never get involved in them chats but i am a kronke out type of guy, the way the club is being managed from an executive level is terrible and its not set up to support the modern game, it may of worked in the 90's and early naughties, but football has changed a lot since then, and the stubbornness not to change things at board room level will destroy this club long before wenger will. everone should get behind a kronke out protest.

21 May 2017 18:34:28
I think a manager should choose his own players? Look at situations like Newcastle where pardew was coaching players he didn't want/ need.

21 May 2017 19:26:16
Hey Dolally we agree on something :-)
I'm with you mate, I don't see how a manager can plan and build a side where he doesn't chose his players himself but having said that I think it's quite common place in Europe for this to happen and the coach merely coach the players he's given.
It's unusual in England but when you consider how poorly English teams have been doing in the champions league the last 5 or so seasons maybe there is something we can learn from what others do differently mate.

21 May 2017 21:11:12
Whatever your opinion of who chooses the players, wengers been found wanting, choosing completely the wrong players for completely the wrong reasons.

{Ed025's Note - thats a bit unfair steve, the majority of his signings have been excellent over the years mate..

21 May 2017 10:08:46
Lacazette will be joining athletico Madrid this summer according to Lyon president. Absolutely gutted. I'm sure we don't know everything but this feels like someone who has got away the last few seasons.

21 May 2017 11:09:19
He certainly dodged a bullet there.

21 May 2017 08:31:31

2 of the 6 board members voted for change and wanted a new manager. All very irrelevant since the board report to Wenger.

21 May 2017 10:20:28
Not sure the board report to him but rather the owners

Sure Wenger has a say and influence on the board though.

21 May 2017 12:17:15
I wasn't aware Arsenal had "owners" in the traditional sense of the word. They have shareholders. I presume this makes a difference in the way the club is run when compared to clubs that actually have outright owners.

{Ed002's Note - The owners of Arsenal are the shareholders of the holding company. The owners of Liverpool, Spurs, Manchester United etc. are the shareholders of the holding company. The club is not run differently to others.}