Arsenal Banter Archive May 21 2018

 

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21 May 2018 22:57:11
Absolutely gutted Arteta is not manager and we appoint a manager who just keeps winning trophies wherever he goes.

Joke of a club.

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{Ed025's Note - love it dags..

22 May 2018 16:53:47
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Excellent appointment ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿผ.

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21 May 2018 22:22:34
What are my hopes for next season now. To win the europa league and improve our league form. This guy can do that in spades, he's done it. The next season after that? let's get the next season out the way first and see if he can achieve with arsenal what he has achieved at previous clubs. that's all i'm asking.
He is a serial winner.

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21 May 2018 22:40:32
We go into next season with no baggage from the past hanging over us.
Xhaka and Mustafi haven't failed under Emery so get a fresh start.
The new back roon boys aren't tarnished by Benzema Higuain failure and mockery
ALL is new, it's a fresh start and we should all be full of excitement for next season more than we have been for years.
Give the new manager the new back room team and the clubs new approach a chance by us all drawing a line under the past because we've been a club dived for years and now it's time to all unite behind a different way forward together.

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{Ed025's Note - a fine dare i say churchillian speech there mate..

21 May 2018 22:50:28
Cheers mate :-) just think we've got a real chance to enjoy our football again if we all draw a line under the past and give the future and chance.

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{Ed025's Note - could not agree more mate..

21 May 2018 23:40:01
Well said Gents.

Optimism at last.

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22 May 2018 00:02:29
He likes a big strong holding midfielder. GREAT!

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22 May 2018 14:44:52
Get into top four at least.

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21 May 2018 22:21:36
Let's hope he can weave his magic

From Neymar, Cavani and Mbappe, to Iwobi, Welbeck and Elneny, that may bring him down to reality with a bit of a bump, welcome to our world.

Think its a good appointment though, quite happy.

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21 May 2018 22:26:16
Sussex, i think ozil auba lacca and miki are good starts for him.

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21 May 2018 22:43:48
I think he may well be better suited to working with our crop of players than he was with the likes of Neymar and company.

If one of his strengths is coaching and improving players we have plenty of players that could potentially improve a lot.

We probably have 4 or 5 players that have an abundance of natural ability that just need the right style of play to get the absolute best out of them.

There are probably 12 teams in the Premier that we should have quite a big edge over quality wise which is enough to to collect around 60 points and another 14 games to define our season.

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21 May 2018 22:45:24
Those players who have failed at Arsenal haven't failed under Emery, different voice in the changing room different approach on the training field and different tactics and motivation might see different performances from those who've struggled in the past.

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21 May 2018 21:25:50
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21 May 2018 22:29:20
Have you got many B. B. ?

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21 May 2018 23:47:20
First I have heard but very tempting. New born so ABIT tricky. Could get the train down and return same day. I can play ABIT not sure on the standard but will be laugh no doubt.

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21 May 2018 21:06:55
So Arteta turned us down!

#becarefulwhatyouwish4.

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21 May 2018 21:36:56
Says the daily star mate who just happen to be bottom of the tabloids accuracy league.
Personally I think the club has let the tabloids and hit seekers do their ownthing while quietly going about its own business all along.
I think the club have played a blinder personally.

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21 May 2018 21:51:15
Hope so.

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21 May 2018 22:19:36
Interview process. Emery came out on top. Let's get behind him. He has a proven record. Maybe not totally top level but at 46 has great experience and still what you would call young in management terms.

Punani will get over us not appointing Tuchel. Dodged a bullet there.

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21 May 2018 22:10:28
Just read online that Emery has has had the same assistant at every club he has been at, Juan 'Bovver Boy' Carlos. He has been described as a lunatic. Always shouting and barking orders.
So the complete opposite to Steve Bould.

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21 May 2018 22:27:13
Paddy bring him on!

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21 May 2018 23:19:11
Agree Steve! Exactly who we need . Shape up or ship out! Stop crying in the corner ( insert name ) ! COYG.

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21 May 2018 21:02:55
What a shocking decision. Did the Arsenal board do their home work on Unai Emery really? He is a really an underwhelming appointment.

This is a man who lost the league in his first season to jardim's monaco despite having a far superior squad. That scream'under achiever' to me.

His PSG team capitulated against real madrid and Barcelona. He is not a big game manager, lacks charisma and is an under achiever. If we wanted to go ligue 1 for a coach, i don't know why we have not considered jardim.

The cruel irony is that the coach tailor made for arsenal and who once was interested in the arsenal job, is on the PSG hot-seat, having replaced the man who is our new coach now.

I really didn't mind arteta as a coach because i am not sure about what we would get, which makes it an exciting prospect. I fear about what we will get with unai emery though because he really under achieved a lot at PSG. Lost the league in his first season to a monaco team despite having a far better squad and never even reached a champions league semi-final with all that money. What is he going to achieve at Arsenal with a tight budget?

That said, i will get behind the team but i don't see unai emery achieving much at arsenal, i fear for the worst.

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21 May 2018 21:24:30
Im sorry punani, you speak with fork tongue mate. You personally might not want emery andxthat is your choice but don't try and pull the guy down. His achievements are tp be applauded and let's hope he can achieve thesame with us.

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21 May 2018 21:38:59
Let's give the man a chance his record pre PSG was impressive.

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{Ed025's Note - absolutely G62..

21 May 2018 21:50:08
i am not pulling the guy down, i am just stating my opinion of him which is not good really .

In the situation we are in, i think we really need a coach who can over-achieve, not one who under-achieved. If unai emery couldn't even reach a champions league semi-final with all that oil money, what is he going to achieve with stan kroenke's few coins?

He had a really expensively assembled squad and they under-achieved a lot in the champions league. Zidane, a rookie coach tactically outclassed him in both legs and he conceded six to barcelona despite having a 4-0 aggregate lead.

I have watched many of his games with PSG especially, i can't say much about his la liga teams as i only watched his sevilla team in the europa league, he was decent with sevilla in the europa but with PSG there was nothing special about him tactically. Infact most of the top managers who faced him, outclassed him tactically. I am not saying he is a bad cocah, he is decent but just know you are not getting a guardiola or an allegri and i think we need a coach more in the mould of a guardiola, a tactical revolutionary.

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{Ed025's Note - im afraid thats exactly what you are doing punani, your highlighting the downside of everything he has done but fail to mention the good stuff, if after 20 odd games arsenal are languishing in mid table and the football is dire then by all means moan to your hearts content, but for christs sake give the guy a break and show a bit of loyalty to your club mate..

21 May 2018 21:50:29
So punani, your mate pep, dod he get it 100 % right at bayern and what about last season at citeh, what was that shambles pf a goalkeeper he bought, did he win the league in his first season. He had the best team in germany and the best team this season in the prem and possibly europe but did he win the european cup? Just get real and remember its opinion but pep is the greatest coach but boy jrs made some right stinkers. At least get your opinion equal. Has pep won the treble with the best team tjis season?

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21 May 2018 21:58:20
Sorry but that sounds ridiculous. You do realise that monaco team was picked apart due to the talented players they had. Seriously its not a bad choice. It could be good or it could be bad. But let the guy get his arse groove into his seat before we start slating it.

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{Ed025's Note - exactly D16..

21 May 2018 22:04:39
We wanted change, we have change. We didn't Want Arteta we didn't get Arteta, we wanted an experienced man we've got an experienced man, I'm not sure what more the club could have done apart from hiring 22 managers plus keep Arsene as well to make everyone happy Ed025 mate.
We are trying something different to what hasn't worked for us for a while now and the club are trying to change our fortune's and we should support the change we all wanted so badly even if we didn't all get 100% what we personally would have ideally wanted.

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{Ed025's Note - i happen to rate the guy G62 and in a recent everton poll of who the supporters wanted as the next manager emery came top, damed if you do damed if you dont it seems to me mate..

21 May 2018 22:22:34
He's a good chioce in my opinion mate no more risky than anyone else and a lot less risky than many many others we've been linked with.
if people can put their personal feelings about the club to one side they will see the clubs done as absolutely as well as was possible to do.
Personally I am excited about next season already.

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{Ed025's Note - think yourselves lucky i say G62, you could have got allardyce...or even worse mourinho mate..

21 May 2018 22:54:02
Hoe true mate, we've done a lot more than ok in my opinion.

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21 May 2018 23:48:45
That Monaco team was special lads. Like Porto in 2004.

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22 May 2018 14:46:36
Steve we all have our favorites. I know majority of us wanted allegri. Emery wasn't my choice but will get behind the team and sincerely hope he proves me wrong.

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21 May 2018 20:34:24
Unai Emery?
Well chuffed if he becomes our Manager.

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21 May 2018 21:25:13
Agree Dags, we could have ended up with a right Dick.

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21 May 2018 22:09:13
leave Brendan alone Steve lol.

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21 May 2018 20:32:17
Sad day to see Cazorla be released. One of fav. Arsenal players of recent times and when he was fit made us a much better side overall, miles ahead of Ramsey and Xakha in my view at his best. I Personally would have liked to give him a 1 year extension to see if he could get back to his best after his injury nightmare. Maybe it was a mutual thing though and Caz thought the EPL would be perhaps to quick and physical for him now?

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21 May 2018 22:09:06
Couldnโ€™t agree more Ryan, my favourite player and really sad to see him go. He wasnโ€™t one of the cosy club and wanted to go out and win.

It was him who got us to play so well against City when he got Coquelin sat next to him in the base of our midfield.

A class above all our midfielders and I hoped he got another 12 months too.

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{Ed025's Note - shame really stoner, very good player and always played with a smile on his face which makes a change from most of them mate..

21 May 2018 20:12:03
Emery is a very good coach. may take a while to work but when it does oh boy. I still don't get the fascination with Allegri he would have been too defensive and fans would end up complaining like those of manchester united right now.

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21 May 2018 20:20:12
What you said Joseph is very true. It might take a while to work, so we have to be patient Personally speaking if it was a straight choice between him or Arteta I think the right choice was made.

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21 May 2018 20:44:06
As much as allegri is a defensive coach, he is a world class coach. One of the few coaches you can depend to get a result with his back against the wall. He is calm under pressure. Unai emery is a decent coach but not a world class coach. He lacks charisma and panics when things go wrong.

In his last season in sevilla, his team never won an away game. He bottled the league in his first season at PSG despite having a far better squad. His team capitulated against Barcelona and real. He is not a big game manager, an under achiever something Arsenal don't need.

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21 May 2018 20:55:55
He had improved every club he has managed, with the exception of spartak Moscow. He started at the bottom and has worked his way up.

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21 May 2018 21:22:59
In the blue corner Sky and the tabloids v in the Red corner Ornstein and the bbc, who will be crowned the heavy weight champions of reliability?
There can be only one.

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21 May 2018 20:10:25
So unai emery is going to be our new boss then. Not first choice but it could have been far worse.

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21 May 2018 20:26:11
Steve, I think it's the best option available to us in the current situation. I did not want Arteta as he did not had experience of managing a club. Unai Emery has experience of working on tight budget as we have at Arsenal and will try to bring best out of player that are available.

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21 May 2018 20:34:17
Good choice considering what was about.

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21 May 2018 20:49:57
BH we can at least expect that the guy can come in and make improvements from his past experiences. i'm happyish.

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21 May 2018 20:06:57
BBC confirming Unai Emrey as our new manager.

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21 May 2018 14:33:02
Hello ed002 with Unai Emery in talks about the job and reports that arteta is not worried about his lack of power in having a say in transfers, is your expectation that arteta will sign still the same?

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{Ed002's Note - I have had no change of view at this time.}

21 May 2018 15:39:28
DG i presume you didn't mean to put "not" in the post.

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21 May 2018 18:11:10
Yeah, thanks mate, I think ed knew what I meant though.

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21 May 2018 13:59:09
So not sure if this has been done already, but is DagenhamGooner (or Dags MkII) the legitimate/ illegitimate child of Dags (or Dags Mk I) . Dags, can you clear this up?

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21 May 2018 17:47:48
Seeing as I'm much better looking, more hunkier, sexier, suaver, smmother, more sophisticated, more dapper, more cooler, funnier and just more damn smarter than MK11, I would just like to state that MK11 did not come from the loins of MK1.

Hope this clears things up mate ๐Ÿ˜.

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21 May 2018 18:03:50
Twins, just like in the movie. One of them is Danny Devito.

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{Ed001's Note - I am going to guess dags 1 is de Vito.}

21 May 2018 18:21:56
No way Funnier Dags 1, Dags 2 told a joke last week and people belly laughed rather than groaned.
The rest of your claims are debatable and a matter of opinion but Dags 2 is the unrivalled King of comedy on this page:-)

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21 May 2018 20:04:42
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21 May 2018 11:51:19
Unai Emery anyone?

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21 May 2018 11:58:34
Please God no. It is Arteta though so I'll sleep (relatively) easily.

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21 May 2018 12:32:29
The club would be stupid not to consider. But they have been stupid in the past. Serial winner.

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21 May 2018 12:48:16
I would honestly prefer arteta.

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21 May 2018 13:07:18
Can I ask honestly why prefer Arteta?
Unai far from my preferred option (to be fair, I just woukd have been happy with Ancelotti or Allegri) , but as things stand it's a no brainer to chose someone who has win three european throphies compared to someone who hasn't even manage a single game yet.

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21 May 2018 13:13:06
Not too clued up on him if I'm honest. What's wrong with him.

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21 May 2018 13:27:16
I know heโ€™s won things, but even Arteta will win trophies in France with that team. I feel like our team does need a younger voice with new techniques, and as much as I donโ€™t want arteta, as I want Allgeri, I feel like it will be interesting to see what happens if he managed.

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21 May 2018 13:59:10
DG he won european trophies (3 on the trot) with a less fashionable spanish team. that's why he was chosen for PSG. Our ex manager couldn't manage that. He did nothing wrong at PSG, to lessen his abilities. If he was good enough for PSG, Why should he not for us. He has worked in a similar structure to he one we are adopting, not my first choice but our options are disappearing.

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21 May 2018 14:27:06
I wouldn't write off Emery! He's a manager who is used to not getting the financial backing he would like (hence his strong defensive attributes) which may play in our favour. Apart from PSG he took on a Valencia and Sevilla side that were either riddled in debt or just couldn't afford a decent transfer budget. He likes to play with a 4-2-3-1 and often a 4-3-3 which would work well with the current squad and with that comes a lot of high pressing. Something that Arsenal tend to do for the first 10 minutes and then give up doing. Defensively we would see an improvement 100%.

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21 May 2018 14:46:19
The situation we are in, we need an over achiever and emery is not. Emery really underachieved at PSG. Remember he lost the league title to Jardims's monaco despite having a far superior squad. PSG's capitulation at Barcelona should not be forgotten. I think Emery is a good coach but not a world class coach. I don't think Emery will be the right coach for Arsenal. I would rather have arteta to be honest.

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21 May 2018 14:46:46
In France . forget that, heโ€™s done well in Spain also.

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21 May 2018 15:08:46
Before his name was put in the hat nobody wanted Arteta because he wasn't proven? Yet Emery has won 2 french super cups, french league cup and the Europa league 3 times consecutively with Sevilla. I might be mistaken but he also took 2 lower league clubs to promotion within his 1st season is charge? Everybody loses games fashionably but that doesn't make them underachievers. I'm not saying I want him but you can't really fault his credentials when it comes to experience compared to Arteta? I would question his loyalty but apart from that.

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21 May 2018 14:22:27
It isn't just France, we're talking of someone who has achieved wining Europa League three years in a row with a minor team and a restricted squad.
I would very much love to see Arteta turn out to be a genius and became successful with Arsenal. It's seems he has the potential, every big fish in football seems to agree with it. But the potential need the experience to be fulfilled, because you going to made some mayor mistakes in the way. It's from mistakes that we learn of course, but sadly we aren't in a position to give room for mistakes right now.
Ed02, do you know something about this called reunion of Emery with the club? . May I ask you as well what is your opinion of him as a coach?

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{Ed002's Note - Reunion is the French word for "meeting". Arsenal are today meeting with others who have expressed some level of interest in a position within the new structure. He is a tactically astute coach and he has been learning English - three years ago it was very difficult to understand him in English and then he did not speak a word of French. He would be a better option to Arteta in my view but not a good solution in the long term.}

21 May 2018 15:30:15
Glen, agree, if you want to speculate, with no CV, let's get an ex player with no managing experience. If you want to try and improve, get someone with a CV and cut out the guessing. We are not (yet) a mid table team, who needs to gamble with a rookie. Use your heads and put the rookie as no2.

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21 May 2018 15:25:25
Punani as usual you are very good at dismissing his acievements. Which are far numerous, including the domestic treble this year and the 3 europa trophies on the trot, than some of the less decorated coaches you keep championing. Missing out on purpose their failings.

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21 May 2018 16:22:21
It is also the word for that in Spanish, sorry I misspell sometimes.
Thanks for your view ed.

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21 May 2018 17:21:42
Dick has an excellent managerial record with a loss rate of less than 25% over 700+ games. That is pretty impressive as is his win rate of 53%.
I'm not pro or anti Arteta, although a limited-experience ex-player would have been Vieira if I had a vote - but anyone slighting Unai Emery for his record is a bit bonkers in my view.
He is at the level we can realistically expect, given our current status in footballing hierarchy (duck and cover) .

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21 May 2018 19:50:05
BVH you are awful but I like you ๐Ÿ˜‚One for the teenagers COYG.

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21 May 2018 11:44:51
I really don't think Arteta will be given the job after all.

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21 May 2018 12:33:17
Hope you are right. But wouldn't mind him no2.

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21 May 2018 13:12:23
If we get an established manager now the club will have played a blinder.
Let everyone panic about Artetta for a week then announce Acelloti as our new coach leaving everyone relieved including all those who previously didn't really want Ancelotti:-)
If the team play as well next season top 4 is assured and watch out city :-)

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Review Of The Day 21st May 2018

21 May 2018 06:08:06
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 21st May 2018

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