Arsenal Banter Archive September 21 2017

21 Sep 2017 13:14:11
i have been watching La liga recently and with madrid having a terrible run of games and probably out of the title race, a slip in the champions league and zidane is likely to be ousted.

i do hope we have him as a successor, i'm not sure wenger will stay beyond this year, and i feel he should move to madrid or psg, we need a fresh start and he could do with not having to penny pinch every buy or sale.

22 Sep 2017 02:57:02
Zidane? No thanks. No disrespect he's a footballing genius and legend of course but that wouldn't be a step in the right direction for me.

21 Sep 2017 00:33:48
Eds what's the crack with this Sampson sacking. Something's rotten in Norway.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know what you mean mate? If you mean Mark Sampson with England Women, he was appointed with the FA knowing there were problems with his mouth. Only himself to blame, but he should never have been given the job.}

21 Sep 2017 06:51:30
I was not aware of what the actual problems were with Samson in the past, but isn't it often the case that some of the best managers such as Clough and Mourinho were/ are hardly saints and both were touted to manage the England team. The FA often chose to employ weak yes men, such as Hodgson and now Southgate, who we wouldn't want to manage our team and haven't been huge successes, apart from the early Hodgson era. The one time the FA pushed the boat out and employed a more risky choice as manager in Allardyce, they allowed/ encouraged him to depart, when they could have backed him up and kept him at the helm. I was actually looking forward to seeing how he would get on in the role, whereas the moment Southgate was installed as manager I lost all interest, as we don't stand a chance with him in charge at the major tournaments. It will be the usual easy qualification from a weak group, leading to over-expectations at a major tournament and failing to get through the group stage or getting knocked out in the first match after the group stage.

{Ed001's Note - so you think that it is ok to appoint someone that is a bigot to the job? Why not go the whole hog and appoint Alf Garnett, as that is who Sampson clearly models himself on.... Mind the FA did appoint Stuart Pearce, a man who had been found guilty and punished for racially abusing other players in the past, but who still had the barefaced cheek to pontificate about Luis Suarez during his spat with Evra! No shame at the FA.}

21 Sep 2017 07:42:47
Point taken Ed, but I would far prefer an imperfect manager such as Mourinho or Allardyce, than squeaky clean Southgate or Hodgson. Clough was a complete head case, but he won the League and other trophies with Nottingham Forest and Derby, as well as two European Cups and was never given the England job.
The same goes for players, look at Suarez who has bitten opponents, would I have wanted him at Arsenal, yes please.

{Ed001's Note - there is a difference between being imperfect and being a racist bully who has caused major problems with other nations with his comments. The guy is an embarrassment and should not be representing a nation.}

21 Sep 2017 07:47:49
That's what I was getting at ed. the Fa is a complete mess and watching that interview on sky with their official who was tasked to do the fall out interview you could tell that the Fa have dropped a clanger and the whole reason behind the sudden sacking based on historical problems that has been looked into preveiously by the Fa seems so bizarre. There's going to be a rubbish storm from this one. I personally think they escaped without too much ridicule after the big Sam debacle.

{Ed001's Note - they acted quickly in the Allardyce case to head off other embarrassing stuff coming out. This time around it just felt like they thought no one cared as it is only women's football and just kept sweeping it all under the carpet, even paying hush money, until the media storm made them realise it was not going away.}

21 Sep 2017 08:39:29
You just wonder how they get themselves into this sort of mess. They seem very worried and this is not defending Sampson in anyway but I'm sure unless they have some evidence on any wrong doing in his employment in this roll then surely they can sack him for offence in a previous roll that they have already looked into. Got tribunal wrote all over it.

21 Sep 2017 08:56:42
Can't sack him.

{Ed001's Note - they can if his actions were of a kind that breaks contract clauses. I have no doubt he would have a clause that would cover this, as he is a national manager, they would not want anything that could cause public embarrassment.}

21 Sep 2017 10:01:35
Ok I see. It's a shame really as it would be horrible for anything to deny the hardwork that's been put into the women's game of late.

21 Sep 2017 10:07:12
Surely the success of the lionesses compared to the men's team has influenced the fa decision delaying.
If they had the same record as the men's team he would have been sacked at the outset imo.
If something is wrong it's wrong regardless of whether that person is brilliant or rubbish at their jog.
Society makes and accepts excuses for and from successful people in all walks of life and maybe if the same rules applied to everyone regardless of wealth or position life would be both much simpler and much better for everyone.
Was big Sam so different to Sven? The only difference I see was Sven had that win in Germany behind him along with last 8 reputation so excuses were made.