Arsenal Banter Archive April 22 2016

22 Apr 2016 23:08:22
Whether you're an Arsene in or arsene out men I think we can all agree with him when he says we can be proud of our club. I certainly am.

When I read him saying the support had been he worse he has seen makes me sad. Whether we support our manager or not we should be supporting.

22 Apr 2016 23:27:37
The atmosphere is created by the team and if the supporters are happy they let you know, if they are not, they let you know. The support for the manager is not there like it was and its his fault, he has helped create it. Its stale, its sour and its boring and the fans pay a huge premium and want some payback and all they are getting is same old same old. i'm afraid this club is fading and needs an injection and quick.

22 Apr 2016 23:34:35
Oh and I was proud of our club, but at this moment, proud isn't the right word. You don't praise mediocre unless your name is a wenger. Man u supporters have had a lot more than us to be proud of in the last few years but if they get fourth they won't br proud, the same for man city. But if citeh win the champs league and finish 5th, they will be mighty proud.

23 Apr 2016 00:00:16
Sorry Steve but what is boring. Because our style of play is far from boring.

23 Apr 2016 00:23:37
For the last 10 years the club has charged price fillet steak prices and served up sirloin, admittedly its been decent sirloin at times not cheap frying steak or rump steak but sooner or later if you keep advertising fillet and charging top fillet prices you've got to actually start serving up fillet.
It seem Arsenal have have listened to George W bush when he once said ' you can fool some of the people all of the time, and their the ones you should concentrate on "

23 Apr 2016 01:34:38
D16, pass pass pass pass and pass and pass and pass ond 75% possession and no shots for that posession, boring. One attack one goal from the opposition, boring, mono tone excuses from wenger, boring, stale iineffective football, boring. Why is the emirates deserted and even when its full lacking atmosphere, because the crowd are bored. There is no real passion from players in interviews and all they do is convince me that they aren't that convincing in their words.

23 Apr 2016 01:37:42
Our season ending in march every year, boring.

23 Apr 2016 06:40:04
I think I know why there are no editor comments anymore, they have left us in the sandbox too ourselves. I am Arsenal win or lose - we have been spoiled terribly.

{Ed025's Note - i agree with that rooster, its the same with united years and years of success has made you expect to win something every year, its like a spoilt kid who wont wear anything without a brand name on it and thats why a lot are happy to see your demise, us poor sods like evertonians pay money to watch our teams week in week out only to be disappointed every year, thats why everyone is happy for leicester this season as the cake being divided more equally gives the rest of us a bit of hope, you never know it might be good for you in the long run mate..

23 Apr 2016 08:52:44
Wenger will be staying for at least one more season so we need to get behind him. The only thing all this is affecting is the team. Plus let's not forget he's an Arsenal legend.

23 Apr 2016 09:11:21
Steve did we not win the FA cup in may. Last two years, so our season didn't end and I had two great days.
We have built and almost paid for one of the best stadiums in the country, and don't think that the season ticket money comes anywhere near it.
We are a club that lives within its money structure.
In 20 years only two teams have won the premiership more than us. I don't think any club has won more fa cups than us.
We have been in the champions league every year under Wenger
We are not in debt
Every fan has a choice about whether or not he buys a season ticket. I am not a season ticket holder YET but will be soon.
I think some of the fans are acting like union bully boys,
I have been Arsenal fan for forty five years and I have seen bad teams and tough times.
I watched as a young lad held up a Wenger out banner on Thursday, and laughed, is that the future fan.
Be leave it or not I wouldn't want to win every cup and league every year I want to have the ups and downs, that's is football.

23 Apr 2016 09:54:03
Welsh no one is expecting to win the league every year or even every other year but to be competitive and put in an actual challenge should not be beyond a club the size of Arsenal with 200 million in the bank.
When Keowen and Parlour went in 2004 Arsenal became 100% Arssne Wenger team for the very first time and the 12 seasons that have followed have each become as uncompetitive as the one before.
Liverpool Leicester Spurs can all put in a challenge that lasts into May but for Arsenal and Arsene that's asking to much? If so why?

23 Apr 2016 12:06:32
Blimey never knew this'll get so many different reactions haha. Look everyone to their own opinion but for me yes we could do a change. Something new. But as frustrating as we can be I am always always proud of our club I don't sit there watching Arsenal thinking this is boring. We do sometimes overpass it but when you're such an attacking team and other teams sit back you're going to see a lot of passing. I think honestly the only thing I'm not proud of is the way some of our fans act to our own manager. It makes us look a laughing stock of the league. We've missed a chance this season. It's annoying I know.

23 Apr 2016 12:59:18
Ja 54 wenger was a legend, for what he has done, but unlike fergie he is hanging on too long and he is dismanting his legend status. NO manager gets so much negative press by other fans and media than wenger, no other manager has his lack of tactics questioned more than him and every supporter I talk to of every other team doesn't want wenger to leave. And its not because he is so great.

23 Apr 2016 15:04:39
D16 our play is totally boring and massively predictable. Steve is spot on i'm afraid.

Its rubbish to watch

Pass pass pass pass pass pass oh lost it. pass pass pass pass pass oh lost it . and so on.

23 Apr 2016 15:07:31
The good news is Arsene looked genuinely shocked by the amount of empty seats and because of the way he is trying very hard to talk up the 3/ 4th fight between us and city i think he is for the first time genuinely concerned that people are losing interest in his 4th place trophy contenders.
Who knows this might be just what was needed to force him into listening to what others are saying about our obvious weaknesses and maybe consider acting on them.

23 Apr 2016 15:31:48
I think it's just a matter of opinion Steve and Banbury if our style is boring or not. Personally If we parked a bus like some teams do id find that boring. But we do attack it just seems we're struggling to break teams down. I wouldn't say that's boring. Just look out the amount of agrees and disagreed on most of the responses on this whole post. Just shows how mixed the opinions on this club actually are.

23 Apr 2016 16:41:45
Today I took a look at Arsenal fan TV for the first time in ages today and was quite shocked by the strength of support for change especially from people who have in the past been so pro Arsene and this was after a 2 0 win.
A very big summer is needed to stop next season being anything but a season where the amount of empty seats becomes the hottest topic when talking about Arsenal.

23 Apr 2016 18:36:24
Steve I also would like a change but I don't agree with the way people are going about it, I feel it's affecting the team. i do feel we should show him respect.

23 Apr 2016 20:11:17
My opinion is wenger is affecting the team more ja. There isn't a team in the world would allow a team to lay dormant and not progess like us. Like people keep saying nothing changes and that is down to wenger. After 20 years what can he say or do different, he says the same things and does the same things, fresh impetus in needed. I will ask another question, why would a young ambitious top top player come to arsenal? What would we sell to him? We talk about aubamayang but the kid has already said he has bigger ambitions. People need to wake up, we are not that attractive an option for top talent, because we don't show ambition.

23 Apr 2016 20:45:23
I have to agree Steve we are not attractive option for players with ambitions beyond taking part in the champions league.
If we were a player who hoped to win a premier league medal and play in a champions league final if we put our bias aside would any of us chose to move to Arsenal as realistic option to achieve those ambitions?

23 Apr 2016 15:51:11
All the eds bring something to the table, Ed 1 is the leader, Ed 2 is a bit fussy but totally Mr. Spock with the knowledge, but must say Ed 25 has always been top class - adds something to the debate without taking it too seriously - cheers mate!

{Ed025's Note - thanks mate..

22 Apr 2016 11:29:11
There is often criticism of Arsenal's attendance figures, which is easily explained; Arsenal supply the figures from tickets sold.
I must admit I find it astounding that fans actually pay for tickets and don't turn up or let relatives or friends use them. I have never let a ticket of mine go to waste, it's unforgivable.

23 Apr 2016 01:46:33
Whatever your view, they pay the money and they make the choice. There must be a good reason why, or at least a reason anyway. There is one thing for sure, if they were happy and excited about what was happening and seeing they would go, that's for sure.

22 Apr 2016 06:37:05
Found this on FB today, not my own.
How many pro-football clubs are their in Europe? I have no idea what the answer is but its thousands and thousands. How many of the fans of those clubs dream of playing in the Champions League just ONCE (let alone winning a match) . Millions? Next question; how many clubs in Europe have qualified for the Champions League Group Stages the last 18 consecutive seasons in a row? The answer is 2. And one of them, Real Madrid, has been a combined effort of TWENTY-ONE different managers, not to mention astronomical amounts of money (some of which was public) . Arsene did on all on his own. And his next FA Cup win would be his 7th title. Only TWO other CLUBS in England (Man Utd and Spurs) have won it more with all their managers in their history. He's kept every tradtion the club had had before he arrived; the unbeaten season, the financial management which has helped lead them to the World Class Stadium they now play in, the promotion of the Acadamies. even in their WORST season they still never finish lower than 4th! Liverpool and Chelsea struggle to make the top half in a bad season, Manchester United 7th, and Leeds and Newcastle (who used to think they were giants of the game) got relegated. Really wish you'd come to my club, Arsene, you'd have been appreciated much more.

22 Apr 2016 08:06:39
Brilliant post Wesley.

22 Apr 2016 09:08:21
WES
What a good post, it takes years to build a club not a one off season
The Arsene out boys need to look at what he has achieved. Also who will replace him
Remi guard was one tipped sacked by Aston villa
Paul clement sacked by Derby
We are a big club but who will come in?
Most premiership clubs would have swapped our last 20 years for theirs. Even the hardened spurs fan would snap our hand off
I would like Arsene to stay another year, honour his agreement and have the respect the great man deserves, and bring in someone to work with him. Has anybody seen Steve Bould move or shout at a player
Do arsenal/ spurs fans really be leave that with champions league next year that spurs and Leicester will be top four,
Who ever goes on to win the league will have been the best team this year
For me Leicester will just be piped.

22 Apr 2016 11:23:55
Regardless of when Wenger eventually leaves, who would people like to see replace him? For me I think the Dortmund manager Tuchel is worth considering, seems to have the same footballing philosophy of Klopp and I think he will be a wanted man if he is able to break Bayern's dominance.

22 Apr 2016 11:30:42
Excellent post this.

22 Apr 2016 16:40:02
Norwich Stoke Southampton would all snatch your hand off for 10 seasons like our last 10 seasons, utd city Chelsea Barcelona Real Juventus Bayern PSG would not be so quick to exchange the last decade of thier achievement with ours.
It really depends on how big a cluub you see Aresenal as and if you feel we have more in common with Newcastle and Sunderland than city and Chelsea then our record is superb but if you rate Arsenal as a top premier league club then our record is not so impressive at all, sorry but you can't have it both ways either we are a little club who do well or a big club who without a a single title challenge for 12 years?
Personally I veiw Arsenal football club as a very big club who if we'd addressed the issues that stood out like sore thumbs to everyone but Arsene who ignored repatedly for many years we would have never have needed to invent the 4th place trophy for ourselves to pretend we were successful.
A real proper DM and a top class keeper 5-7 years ago as all in the football world kept pointing out week after week season after season and we wouldn't be talking about 12 years without a title challenge to our names.

22 Apr 2016 17:22:42
Very good post Wes, we all wanted him to succeed after the financial restriction of the stadium was gone, but he is stuck in the same mind frame as when we were paying off for the stadium, the problem lies here even after the money being available he is not willing to spend it and we are stuck in mediocrity this is what hurts us fans most.

22 Apr 2016 21:07:03
The guy is not moving this club forward whatever spiel you come up with. If wenger is so irreplaceable why hasn't he won the league in the last 12 years and if he is so irreplaceable why can't he get us past the last 16 of the champions league. don't tell me there is no one better out there and what's remi guarde got to do with arsenal, except it was supposed to be yet another mis judgement of wenger to be our next manager, thanks again wenger. Most of the managers in the prem given the resources at their disposal that wenger has could easily achieve the same as him. he's not getting anything special out of this team/ club, just achieving the bare minimum.