Arsenal Banter Archive August 22 2016

22 Aug 2016 22:43:59
If a European Super League was set up, say 12 teams, do you think Arsenal would be picked by the FIFA committee?

Basically, are Arsenal classed as an elite team and one of the 'best' dozen teams in European football?

22 Aug 2016 22:53:31
I could be way off here, and most likely am, most of what i say on this site is unfiltered nonsense my brain let's out.

But I think we would mate.

Not necessarily because we're one of the top 12 teams in Europe (though I'd wager we just, just, are on our day) but if a there was to be a new league starting, the 'founders' of it will be looking to draw as much attention to it as possible and Arsenal have one of the biggest followings around the world.
We'd certainly be a draw for fans around the world, not in the league of Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern or Utd, but I think we're up there!

If we deserve to be or not, is a different matter.

22 Aug 2016 22:59:47
As far as size and set up yes, as far as european football power no. Every team that has won the champs league would have an argument ahead of us and we qualify but don't progress very far each time, compared to others.

22 Aug 2016 23:31:29
I assume it would be top 2 or 3 from the main leagues - so probably not. If based on last 10 years success in UEFA - possibly but tight. Based on politics - yes.

22 Aug 2016 23:32:21
D_ and Steve.

Elite team?

Yet we haven't won our domestic league in 12 years.

22 Aug 2016 23:47:42
It all depends what angle you're taking though Dags.
If you're saying go purely off footballing successes, then no, we won't make it, with only 2 F. A cups and 2 Community shields in our recent triumphs,

But if you're looking for the 'big' teams, we will.
Arsenal's commercial draw and the worldwide following the club have is one of the biggest in world football.

If a new league was to start (and a lot of people think it may) you're going to want the big names playing to get those views in.

I think it also depends where the organisers will look for teams.
Are you going to say just the bigger leagues, say Prem, La Liga. Serie A, Ligue 1, Bundesliga, Primera and Ervdiesie (butcher the spelling on those last two) or do you have a UCL style thing where instead of the top 1/ 2/ 3/ 4 from a league, you say the winner of the league gets to come in?


I think if someone came to me and said 'here's exactly how the teams will be picked, will Arsenal make it' i could give a straight answer.

As it stands, there are too many unknowns for me personally to say ' this will/ won't happen'

{Ed007's Note - Ed002 has a post on the Southampton page updating the latest on changes to the CL format and the break away super league.
Arsenal are part of England's 'Big Four' along with Utd, City and Chelsea, as a Celtic fan I feel like most Liverpool fans that we should be involved but both of them aren't even getting scraps from their table the way things are looking.
A 12 team European Super League isn't going to happen, it'll be the top 4 teams/clubs from the big 4 leagues that will form the base of the league so there's 16 teams right away.}

23 Aug 2016 00:16:44
Dags no we aren't an elite team, yet.

23 Aug 2016 00:18:11
If arsenal was to be picked I bet it would be because of their style of play. Pass pass pass and then draw or lose at the end. Oh and if we get lucky, we get to win by a slim margin.

23 Aug 2016 01:00:35
Ed007,
I guess it depends on what criteria they are looking for.

Based on recent form (say, 10 years) , Arsenal are above Liverpool.

But, in terms of elitism and European success, liverpool are way in front of Arsenal (5 CL/ European Cup successes to Arsenal's none) .

{Ed007's Note - So should Aston Villa and Nottingham Forest be involved, Dags? That's getting into the same territory as Celtic fans thinking, I've been telling them for 5 years we won't be involved but they think the fact we won the EC, the stadium and fans etc is enough to gate crash the party. Sentiment doesn't come into it, this is about cold hard cash.}

23 Aug 2016 01:09:48
Cheers for clearing that up for me Ed!

I must admit, I've got mixed feelings about a new 'league' I'm not really sure how it'd affect the current state of affairs.

{Ed007's Note - The CL has killed European football, the money took over the prestige a long time ago. Sorry to keep going on about Celtic but there's supporters and posters on the site who couldn't care less if we are getting f***ed off Barca or Bayern as long as we're getting paid the big bucks for it - it's like a kind of warped prostitution for want of a better word.}

23 Aug 2016 01:10:58
Why would we want arsenal to leave the English leagues? I think it's anti-football, and I'd have to consider if I'd watch any matches again. More money for money's sake. Clubs and players even further from reality. I'd take losing to Wycombe in the third round of the cup to beating Real Madrid in a pointless league match any day. Isn't it bad enough with the premier league generating so much money it distorts the world market and kills off lower league clubs? The fans don't get a drop back on ticket price reductions as it is. It'll be a TV only sport, and that might aswell be the end as far as I'm concerned.

23 Aug 2016 03:48:46
The big question is where do we think we will finish and would there be relegation and promotion.

23 Aug 2016 05:25:06
And if we can't compete in the prem financially, how the heck would we in a euro league. Daunting, we will need thick skins.

23 Aug 2016 08:41:27
Fair point 007 :-)

23 Aug 2016 13:35:58
I had a read of 002's post you mentioned 007, a really interesting read, a tonne of stuff I had no idea about (nothing new there) cheers for the heads up!

{Ed007's Note - You're welcome mate (yes)

22 Aug 2016 19:45:09
Gardiola Morinho and what they have spent or not spent or what they have done or not done is between them and thier own fans.
I say we should worry about whars happening at our own club and let others clubs go about their business as they see fit, it really is none of our business how they go about making themselves the best they can possibly be.

22 Aug 2016 20:28:54
Agree gunner, we can't keep looking over the fence to see if they have a better garden than us. We got to sort our garden out first.

22 Aug 2016 21:03:48
The way I see it Steve is its irrelevant to us what they do its up to us to be the best we can be, if we sign the best players we can afford and get the best out of them possible and it's not enough! What more can we do? If we do all that and it's only good enough for 4th place I won't complain.
But to me comming second last season with just 71 points while being Europes only club not to sign an outfield player while having, £200 million in the bank is not even close to being all we could be and that's just wrong in my book.

22 Aug 2016 21:05:57
Wenger has been banging that drum for so long that it's had the desired affect on some fans, it has zero to do with us!

22 Aug 2016 21:31:58
Jps you have to take the simeone stance and battle the big boys with every trick you have in your book and when you win you sneer and when you lose you know you've bloodied their noses and they won't fancy playing you again, regardless.

22 Aug 2016 21:32:25
Oh and wenger can't do that.

22 Aug 2016 21:45:06
Please read the accounts before you slate Wenger. Read the mid-year accounts as not blurred by pre-season ticket sales which create a false cash balance.
So Nov 15 6 month accounts on club website. Note 12.

We have 136m in cash as 24m is in a service reserve account.

Look st the profit we made - loss of 6m.

Then look at Chelsea and the 1dn pound interest free debt they have.

22 Aug 2016 22:10:30
Then look at Leicesters 80 plus points SY?

22 Aug 2016 22:40:34
Stop throwing out once in a lifetime examples - your 209m number is again false as is your reference of Pep spending 100m

You are just moaning for moaning sake and trying to stur more anti-Wenger feelings based on false info

What's accurate is no manager has kept Arsensl in the top 4 for such a long period against teams with far more resource. FA cup glory, regular in champions league and invincibles.

Money talks and you brought up a false number. My number is accurate and would support our transfer policy.

We invest enough to maintain top 4 finish while maintaining a self sufficient model which the board seems to want -> that's the problem.

How do you generate more cash for long term investments while maintaining this? Please let me know

Who would you want? Let me know

Would your choice cope with our financial constraints while delivering our brand of football?

Interested to here your solution rather than lopsided moans.

22 Aug 2016 22:45:00
62 - if money doesn't talk, then why have the titles recently gone to the big spenders and why would Utd throw vast money at Pogba if money does not talk
Where were Chelsea and City before the money came rolling in

Leicester was a freak result - please don't build your arguement in them. They almost got relegated the year before and be lucky to get top 8 this season.

22 Aug 2016 23:04:36
Sy look at yourself pal you are moaning more than anyone and that includes me. Your arguments are one sided and you accuse others.

22 Aug 2016 23:13:26
Yes money does talk it always has done but chelski won the league before last on a net spend of 10 mil. Leicester beat all the big spenders last season and I think it is totally disrespectful to call winning the prem a freak, it was bloody hard earned through hard work and belief. And i suppose you wrote them off last season as easily as you have written them off this. Leicester is totally relevant they beat the big boys and the big spenders regardless of whether it may or may not be a one off.

22 Aug 2016 23:14:05
Money certainly does play a big part these days SY, absolutely and there's no way Arsenal can outspend the likes of City, Utd or Chelsea, but let's not pretend we're looking behind the sofa for coppers.

The club has a manager on £8m a year, an owner who dips his hand in when he fancies a few million and youth players earning £10/ 20/ 30k a week.

If finances really are an issue, then moving to the Emirates was irresponsible.

Don't forget, winning the premier league brings in a LOT of money.
Is there any guarantee we'll win it, even with £200m spent?
No, but we certainly won't in current state.

I've said it before here and I'll say it again, this is the equivalent of your monthly shop.
You spend big and stock everything up and then once or twice a week you pop in for milk and bread.

The principle here is the same.
If we bite the bullet and sign a striker and a CB, the club is more or less set, next season, we just have to replace any leavers and add maybe one player of quality.

As it stands, it's looking more and more likely (admittedly it's not nailed on) that we're going to sign Jonny Evans for around £25m.

That's ridiculous.
Regardless of him doing a job or not, if we go through, we're paying £25m (apparently) for a player who's 27 and will be a stop gap, he certainly isn't good enough to be a starter for Arsenal and he's not going to improve.
We'll be paying for a player who's going to play 2-3 seasons, before being shipped back to a west brom level team for pennies and we have to replace him then at a premium.

Yet if we'd of pulled our finger out and gone in for Mustafi, paid even £40m (is he worth that? No, but this is the reality of the market now, it's a sellers market and you pay their price) we've got an experienced CB, a World Cup winner, knows the prem, played in 3 leagues and is only 24.
By the time Kos is looking to step down in 2-3 years, he's only 26 and we've got a more settled Gabriel (if he stays) and Holding and Chambers who will of matured.

So unless Mustafi is poor for us, which, I won't lie is obviously a possibility, we could have him for 10 years if the club is good to him and vice versa.
As opposed to a player on a par with Djourou, for £25m and only a 3rd of the time.

Look, I'm just naming names here, I can only go off what I read, because I don't have an inside track and don't claim to, for all I know, we could be announcing the arrival of Varane and Griezmann tomorrow and then I look a right tool for being naffed off about Mustafi (not that I need help looking a tool)

At the end of the day, you have to speculate to accumulate.
If Arsene, Stan and co just want to make profits, may I suggest they buy and run a grocers, not a football club.

22 Aug 2016 23:25:50
I am not moaning but responding on a banter page - I have stated facts Steve not this constant anti Wenger vibe that is being posted by a few individuals
I won't mind but it's not accurate and again - read my posts as I do slag Wenger off

I am just asking for you to post facts if you reference something plus opinion

At present I am just asking for a solution to Wenger - mine is change the model which is supported by the successful teams of late and our lack of cash which is supported by our statutory accounts

Both are facts

No other manager has delivered such consistent performance for Arsenal - fact

Do we over pay some players - yes but contractual positions influence wages.

Is the Japanese guy's visa an issue - not really but let's call it a huge disaster and screw up.

22 Aug 2016 23:36:53
Bang on the button D_.

Top post.

22 Aug 2016 23:57:15
D
I can understand your point and don't disagree with you
Money does talk and the team will need constant investment ( not huge every year) . You stand more chance winning the lottery if you buy more tickets but you can buy 1 and still win.
We only have 140m in the bank - we don't make huge amounts of money.
What you state - I want but I think it will need more money than you state.
Change needs to happen - yes but the board / model before we throw out a good manager.

23 Aug 2016 00:14:05
Steve. How many negative / moaning posts have I started compared to the negative posters? I have posted a number of positive and negative posts
I reply to unfounded negative posts or just plane stupid mow so -> yes

On Chelsea - get real. Over 1 billion loaned with NO interest. Did you really bring them up. Would love us to have no interest never mind the cash injection. You really do hand pick weird examples to support your arguement

I am dissing Leicester as they did well but it's a freak result that won't be repeated. I thought that's what freak result meant. Doesn't mean they didn't work hard but probably not the best model to build off.

23 Aug 2016 00:15:05
Nice post D - we all want success and to challenge again. Nothing wrong with wanting that.

23 Aug 2016 00:24:06
Sy the club your arguments are more one sided than a straight line.

23 Aug 2016 00:28:41
Sy4 what's the point if we make top four consistently 16-17 years thereabouts and not winning any major trophy? I'd rather we win CL league and year later we come 8th, the following year come back to win the epl and finish 15th the next year than to experience this top 4 sickness. Would you not want to improve in life. Yes, financially we keep on improving but has our trophy cabinet improved with a major trophy? Now has is that?

{Ed007's Note - Everyone would like to improve in life but sadly we can't all be Roy Keane. The gulf between Arsenal and maybe15/16 other teams is huge but perhaps the gap between Arsenal and Utd, City and Chelsea is just as big in the world of high finance football. Maybe being there or there abouts is Arsenal's level mate with the hope of every now and then getting that wee bit of luck to win the league. But I know that's not acceptable to fans, they want millions spent every window and trophies in the cabinet. Only one team can win the league though.
What if Arsenal went out and spent £150 million and still finished 3rd or 4th, would that be seen as a waste of money by fans?
I don't believe for a minute any Arsenal fan (or board member) would ever accept them finishing 15th, even if they won the quadruple the previous year.
If you want me to really start moaning I'll tell you about Celtic having to play 3 rounds of qualifiers to get into the CL! :=D

23 Aug 2016 01:24:00
Ed, all I'm trying to say is that we refuse to address the weak areas in the team like a CB and a CF which has been the case over the past 3 years when it's glaring to everyone. Spending huge funds during transfer windows isn't my thing but what matters to me most is getting the weak areas sorted out. Believe me Ed if we got an ST for 40 mil and a CB for 30 mil thereabouts I wouldn't complain if we finished 5th because we would have done our bits. But to identify same problems over these past years and not addressing them isn't acceptable.

{Ed007's Note - I've not kept up with Arsenal stuff but maybe they can't find the right player at the right price. I think Wenger thought he had Vardy in the bag and that messed up his summer plans. It's OK saying a striker at £40m and a CB at £30m but who? Every poster on here knows it's not Football Manager or FIFA, where you just collect enough money and you can buy Erik Sviatchenko or Ronaldo for X amount.
If the £40m striker's club doesn't want to sell or the player doesn't fancy it what do you want them to do, offer £60 million, or use the £40 million to buy a mercenary worth £20m that'll sign for anyone if the price is right?

23 Aug 2016 06:26:25
Thanks Ed - nice bit of perspective. We do take our position in the league for granted. The frustration is that chance was last season. Doesn't mean our position should change but reevaluate so we can next time.

{Ed007's Note - When Bruce Rioch was sacked if someone had offered you exactly what Wenger has done, 20 years of consistently up there at the top end of the EPL and Europe, the trophies you've won and the players you've seen playing for Arsenal I'd bet 99% of the support would have been over the moon with that. Not to mention a brand spanking new stadium.
Would a Spurs or Liverpool supporter rather have had Arsenal's last 20 years or their own? I reckon a lot of Liverpool supporters would even trade their CL win for an EPL trophy.}

23 Aug 2016 20:29:49
Ed
I believe we are beating the same drum
I would agree :)

{Ed007's Note - There's usually one nutter on very site that agrees with me.}

22 Aug 2016 16:08:18
I understand all the doom and gloom, and for the first time I'm starting to question if it would be best if Wenger stepped aside, but we've still got 2 weeks before the transfer window closes.

There are plenty of CBs out there who would improve us significantly, and fingers crossed the big clubs start a merry-go-round of transfer dealings that leads to us signing a striker.

If we don't make signings, or we sign Johnny Evans, then I will join in with you and metaphorically stone Wenger.

22 Aug 2016 17:37:03
Pep, the most sought after manager in the World spends £50m on Stones - a young English CB with bags of potential, but not entirely convincing to date.

Wenger spends £2m on Holding - a young English CB with bags of potential, but not entirely convincing to date.

If holding plays as well as Stones this season (I'm guessing he'll start til Gan is back) , hopefully AW will be given more credit and respect for the way he does things.

22 Aug 2016 18:11:20
Personally to date i hope holding is going to be better than stones, totally over priced but lots of potential, holding totally under priced but lots of potential. It will take years to find out the answer. Stones and holding will not be overnight successes.

22 Aug 2016 18:12:17
Has Arsene been pumping Holding'stires all along as he is the new CB this year? Too bad Asano didn't get a game sure he would have got raves from the boss.

We look strong boss but we need at least one player of quality. Maybe get ed2 to help, he must have bags of time now that he doesn't help on here (hope he has a sense of humor, jury is out ;-)

22 Aug 2016 18:26:05
Just to clarify, as I'm not the smartest, but the disagree means that, if Wenger signs a centre back who performs as well as the one Pep has signed, for £48m less, then he doesn't deserve any credit or respect?

Why do people think that arsenal fans can never be pleased?

22 Aug 2016 18:46:06
Surely no one could reasonably argue that if Holding even matches Stones Arsene has done the better deal there, let's wait and see though because that is a very big if.
Out of interest if Pep spends 100 mil and Arsene only spends 35 mil but city win the title and Arsenal qualify for the CL in a distant 3rd or 4th who is the better manager? Pep taking over a team that could only manage 4th last season and making them champions in his first season or Arsene who after 20 seasons has yet again saved the club a fortune while doing the Arsenal double of top 4 and above Spurs?

22 Aug 2016 18:49:19
That's fine, if he does perform as well as the one Pep has signed. But my guess is Guardiola knows his onions. Happy to be wrong though!

22 Aug 2016 19:07:19
I couldn't have put it better gunner.

22 Aug 2016 20:13:38
Its one of the most relevant criticisms you point out G62. Should AW throw money and gamble on winning (as that's what it is ultimately)

I don't know how much clubs like Villa and Newcastle spent on players, but I do know that you can't take anything for granted. If we spend and start to drop places, I'm not sure many fans would be happier. Jose at Chelsea last season, van Gaal, Moyes at Man U, Rogers at Liverpool, even spurs post Bale. All splashed with no title to show for it.

The manc clubs are both throwing cash around again now. Does that make them a better team? In hindsight, anyone can say aw should have gone in for ibrahimovic. he might not yet keep performing and last the season though. How many of those knowledgeable fans also thought aw should have got in before José on Falcao and Pedro. Or snapped up Benteke or balotelli? Were outraged we didn't want Fabregas etc. Etc.

I generally have trust that aw has forgotten more about football than most of us will ever know. I look at us and think aw knows the team really are good enough to win the league. He doesn't play to come second. He's shown that.

For me it comes down to this:

If we win the league this season, aw was right and justified in everything he has done.

If not, as painful as it is, either the players have not performed, his judgement was wrong or his tactics were wrong, or something unseen is holding him back. he'll have had a fair amount of time to win, so would then have to acknowledge something has to change. Not necessarily him - an assistant with different tactics, or a new manager with aw advising. But he knows that. He's no idiot.

We've been 4th, 3rd, 2nd.
Until the end of the season, 1st is still up for grabs, and the team need support. I'm still behind the boss.

22 Aug 2016 20:51:37
Very much agree with your posts jimgoon, sensible positivity.

22 Aug 2016 20:52:25
Jim can I ask you do you feel Arsene was right to be the only manager in Europe not to buy an outfield player last summer?
Mate I totally respect your right to support Arsene no matter what still, even if I struggle to understand it I still respect we don't all see things in the same way all the time.

22 Aug 2016 22:17:59
Steve, good you supporting your buddy 62 when he references Pep spending 100m. What week was that as his spending far exceeds that plus all the money spent in last two seasons at City - please talk sense.

23 Aug 2016 02:30:39
G62, I guess I don't really think of it like that.

I would have LOVED a stellar signing, but I know they don't always work, and also think there are plans - like bringing players through etc. That we don't know. I also see how close some players are to being great. So although I'd like mahrez, or lewandowski, when they don't come I know I'll be excited to if someone takes their chance.

When we didn't/ don't sign any/ many, I'm still hopeful for two reasons:

1 - I accept that Arsene won't pay crazy money. that's a huge reason why I love AFC anyway. I would much rather we earn a title the hard way than buy it, or even worse pay £££ for Falcao, balotelli, schweinsteiger etc.

2 - I hope that AW knows/ sees things we dont, and he really believes that there are no realistic upgrades. Again, I love that we can find quality players like elneny, hopefully holding etc. But bear in mind that our big signings have all proven successful. In fact, the lesser ones too recently. Compare that to other clubs. Didn't loads of fans want Rambo out, doubted bellerin and booed ozil? I trust AW!

22 Aug 2016 12:40:02
According to sly sports, valencia saying mustafi not leaving in this window.

22 Aug 2016 13:41:24
In that case, Wenger should leave in this window. Preferably the 4th floor one.

We should have tied Mustafi up at least a week ago, we keep penny pinching to the point where the selling club tell us to do one.

Wenger says, "If the right player is available, we will spend".

The right player's are available. We just won't spend.

If we don't sign Mustafi, we really are a joke of a club.

22 Aug 2016 13:50:58
You can't blame them they no time for a replacement obvious really

Our negotiating team must be the best in the PL.

22 Aug 2016 13:57:18
Jonny evans is looming up in the rear view mirror. Noooooooooooooooo.

22 Aug 2016 14:12:53
I was just thinking the same steve, god help us!

22 Aug 2016 15:27:26
" we tried yes of course we tried, look, we try for the best players for the money available "

I can hear it now.

22 Aug 2016 16:09:47
Were we really interested in Mustafi? I ask because Valencia say clubs have to meet his £41,000,000 clause, now surely we would never pay that for him, so didn't we know about that figure? Is so why waste the last few weeks

Just asking.

22 Aug 2016 17:03:23
John cross who is a wenger supporter says he doesn't understand the way at all we have conducted our business in this window, he really slated him.

22 Aug 2016 10:24:45
For those questioning, Wenger allowed Campbell to go out on loan, I believe he feels that we have ample cover for the right attacking role; Walcott, Oxlade, Ramsey and this season I expect the superb youngster Reinne-Adelide to come through. Keeping Campbell would have halted his progress.

Some fans suggested that we should have sold either Ox or Walcott instead, one could argue that Campbell gives more than either of these players, but the crucial thing is that both of them are English, meeting the homegrown rules. My question is, why didn't he sell Campbell and Szczesny? We seem incapable of selling players on nowadays.

22 Aug 2016 11:37:15
Good point RG,
We do seem to have turned into a retirement home :-)

22 Aug 2016 12:00:45
Wages maybe? We do seem to be extravagant with our squad players wages yet reluctant to reward those who achieve most (kos) seems a strange way of doing things to me.

22 Aug 2016 12:52:58
Gunner its wages that is causing lots of problems in the club.

22 Aug 2016 13:19:43
Theo on what £140K (ish) pm or Campbell on about half, it's fairly obvious that Campbell is out playing Theo every time.

22 Aug 2016 07:57:10
EDs
I know you get asked a lot about transfers but we are into the home stretch. Is there any chance of that list of targets : possible signings? I am sure everyone will be grateful and not post nasty comments back. If possible - that would be great. 😀
Have a great Monday and week everyone - even you Steve ( hope you have a happy positive week 😀)

{Ed002's Note - That is not going to happen, sorry.}

22 Aug 2016 16:27:18
Ed 02 are you saying there is no chance of Steve having a positive week? 😂😂😂.

22 Aug 2016 21:35:57
Not a cat in hells chance. lol.

{Ed025's Note - i second that steve.. :)

22 Aug 2016 07:39:16
Just over a week to go and all the speculation rumours and theory's will be over for another summer and we will see exactly what Arsene's plans are for the season ahead.
In many ways this has probably been the worst summer as an Arsenal fan that I can remember as I was expecting nothing then we got Xhaka early and tried for Vardy too which certainly got my attention then back to the normal will he won't he scenario that has become Arsene's trade mark for so many summer wibdows.

22 Aug 2016 08:44:51
The fact Wenger went for Vardy show's he thinks we need a striker.

The fact that we haven't signed one (yet) is worrying.

22 Aug 2016 10:21:13
Agree Dags, it's more worrying and confusing than if he straight up said he wasn't looking for a striker. Even when he wants a player we struggle to make transfers!

21 Aug 2016 23:41:31
Someone on here said something similar to Charlie Nicholas

"Wenger just needs to apply the finishing touches to his squad because he's done the hard work, " Nicholas slurred to Sly Spurts.

"If he gets Mustafi and Lacazette for £70m then he might not have to buy big again for two to three years, which would put them in a stunning position.

"Manchester United are spending close to a quarter of a billion pound each summer and Arsenal only need to pay a fraction of that once in a few years. "

Get the job done - buy Lacazette and Dijk plus Draxlar. 130m job done and smiles all round.

22 Aug 2016 00:13:12
Spot on 👍🏻

I think with the way we have started the season just getting 1 point out of a possible 6 will force Arsenals hand to go out and get reinforcements, the three you mentioned would be ideal but I reckon he might possibly bring in two, who though would be anybody's guess but i'd say Mustafi is a good possibility and lacazette is there for the taking.
It would turn us into a completely different animal.

22 Aug 2016 13:40:38
We all know the problem areas in the squad, we talk about it all the time on here and down the pub. Me I've even reached the stage of talking to the present Mrs Sagalout! It's no longer about who we need to sign, but why he hasn't! Some of the decisions have been strange like Campbell going, everytime he's played he's produced more than Theo, signs a player without a work permit. An young seen Wellington in our shirt?
I fear nothing will change till there is a fall in profit for the management team. 4th gets them all their bonuses and pays the bills without spending too much and reducing that profit.
I think this season that may well happen. Man U and C look stronger Chelsea as well that leaves 4th again the place to fight for Totts will be there abouts again, don't white off Leic too early L'pool either anyone can now put a run together and steal that place. Imagine us at the end of the season 5-6 what happens then?
I've lived thru the Billy Wright years, when we were a mid table team, those mid table teams from last season have all had a cash injection, things have changed, this could drop us down the lge.
Tactically it's same old same old, everyone knows how to defend against us, his answer ' we had possession' or some such quote. Nothing is changed we drift as new managers come in and change the style of play.
Sadly this malaise seems to be thru out the club. Players seem not to want to play for him. Ramsey's face looking at Wenger V 'Pool was an eye opener Wenger's head in his hands, a classic ' I don't know what to do' body position &Rambo looks with real anger at him. The players are worried we are worried and he drifts along.
Major overhaul is called for top down or we will revisit the Wright years.