Arsenal Banter Archive July 22 2013

22 Jul 2013 23:08:15
Why the frenzy? Wenger waiting for the 31 August!

Haven't they extended the transfer window by a day or two?

Closes Monday 2nd sept

22 Jul 2013 22:36:09
Ed052 if Suarez leaves who would you want to/think Liverpool could get to replace him
MgM {Ed052's Note - I would like Turan or Bernard. We need a left wing to replace him. We're fine at rm, striker and CAM. Reasonable? I'm not too sure at the minute, were a bit off making the signing I supect}

Err hold on isn't his ARSENAL rimours?

I really do wonder in Madrid want suarez. considering they spent 70 million on two youngsters, and they are not exactly a cash strapped team. why did they not bid for suarez?

they could have easily put in a 35 mill bid. however I don't think they even put in the 25mill bid, just stated he was worth that much.

i really think they are saving it for bale. go all out and all that jazz. {Ed052's Note - RM are a bit strapped for cash now}

22 Jul 2013 22:31:48
i would like to talk about these cazorla rumours of him going back to spain.

what would peoples thoughts be if this was to happen and cesc was his replacement.

would this be acceptable.

malaga gooner {Ed030's Note - Not a gunner but,I think it would be decent for Arsenal but have the two of them in the same team would be even better.If Arsenal signed just Fabregas and a striker and maybe a right back then I can see Arsenal challenging for the league I really can. }

Ed030, I agree with everything you say.

malaga gooner

I would like both plus Jack so we can challenge on all fronts

Cesc got burn out with us as over played as so important

Plus I still like Caz in the Pires type role

We need depth and options especially season after this on the back of a major football tournament. Historically we have suffered follow these and this was due to depth of squad ( in the early AW years when we used to win something, not in the GG era when Liverpool last won the league which it was called that long ago)


SY4

We can keep both! Its about time the club put some money into the squad without having to make do or making a profit/breaking even.

Agreed, although I'd add Cesar to the list for a chance at two cups!

Totally agree, I would love to see Fab, Rooney and a decent CB and that for me would do.
Don't believe we need a new keeper, and not sure you need a DM if the rest of the team are comfortable on the ball and doing there job, which some player weren't last year on both counts.

1404

22 Jul 2013 21:52:43
nothing better than having an ed from another team making a visit. would love an ed from the spurs page pay us a visit, ha

football should be about fun and banter.

you do not have to abuse the eds to have a good time.

top person ed052

malaga gooner {Ed052's Note - Well, you seem to have fun and be abusive, not towards me, but Liverpool, MG. Theres no need for thjat 'history' crap to have a good debate. I'm often on this site, you just don't know. A fortnight or so ago I had a good chat with a few of your fellow posters, who were kind enough, and enjoyed talking about how Liverpool are trying to implement the Arsenal model, nothing to do with the History Channel}

Okay. let's kick it off. Where do you see the Pool finishing next season?

10 £ on Swansea to finish above Liverpool next season {Ed052's Note - really?}

Top 10

SY4 {Ed052's Note - I also expect Liverpool to be top 10}

Come on guys! I'm going for 5th. Martinez will make Everton a joyous to behold defensive cluster duck.

Think we'll be an improved 3rd or 4th (as in better points tally than last year) with Chitty and Chelski fighting 1 and 2 with Manchester United coming 3rd. {Ed027's Note - i'll but in and go for 6th, though i'd rather Spurs finished 6th and Liverpool 5th

Hilarious comments from the Gooners" who's going to finish above who?"

When did Arsenal last win a trophy? How many Wembley trips have the faithful Clock End/ North Bank boys had in the last 10 years!

I'm a die hard kopite - on the Kop and actually quite like Arsenal.

Nicky D

Nicky D- fair point, as everyone keeps on reminding us.

But this thread is talking about where clubs may finish in the league.

Not do you think we're going to win a trophy next year- think we've done that one and it didn't last too long lol! (but hey, maybe this season we're break our duck, who knows).

22 Jul 2013 21:26:57
since the emirates move we have only ever been 3 players away from dominating football.

we will have them for next season.

the trolls from liverpool can come over here as much as they like.
we did not go out and spend stupid money on players like carrol, henderson and downing.

we built a state of the art stadium and sustained cl football on a shoe string.

yes we made mistakes but they did not cost us 35million for 1 player.

man utd smells of desperation, never heard them doing their biz in public. never understood why they went for moyes until now. can't see them having any pulling power in transfer market under him. he was brought in to do an everton job. was always waiting for the day when saf stepped down.

united will struggle to get cl next season.

NEXT SEASON WILL BE OUR SEASON.

GET THE BIG RED BUS READY. BEEP-BEEP

EIE

malaga gooner {Ed052's Note - For crying out loud Malaga. Your the one trolling at the minute. If you knew anything about football, which seemingly you don't, then you'd know how much of a good player Hendo is. That's not bias, he is a top player. United are hardly in desperation, and arguably, Arsenal are in more desperation, having tried and failed to sign Jovetic, Higuain, maybe Suarez and have to move onto target 4, Bernard. I still expect you to get another striker, but please, don't be deluded. You were a long way off last year, and, had to not been for some sensational form in the last couple of months, you'd have been 6th or 7th, Wenger would have gone, and players left.}

Hendo a top player - ed052 with that comment you don't know anything about football. he is a good player at best - if he was as good as you say he is Liverpool wouldn't be replacing him with the new signings they are making.

And Malaga you don't help yourself sometimes when you say things like Manchester United will struggle to get champs league football - they will be there or there abouts as they always are

Tim Taylor {Ed052's Note - Timmy Timmy Timmy. 'Liverpool wouldn't be replacing him'. I don't know how you gather that, but Hendo won't be sold, and isn't being replaced, by anyone. What made you have the idea? Hendo is 22, so very, very young still, for a CM. HE will continue to develop, and, finished last season as a top player. He will cememnt that, kick on, and get more chances next season}

Ed052 its been along time since I have decided to light the bong in celebration to 1 of the eds.

you crack me up.

lmfao

malaga gooner {Ed052's Note - You such a comedian MG. I'm glad you amuse yourself. You'll be the one on the history channel if I click this nice 'ban' button over here ---> }

Ed052 having read some of your comments this evening I can't help but think your editing the wrong page! Obviously a Liverpool fan, I get that your upset at the prospect of losing one of your top players we've been selling ours for years it's horrible. Us arsenal fans have been put through the mill over the last few years, expensive ticket prices ( I'm a season ticket holder) poor replacements and constant lies that the money was there and we just weren't spending however now we look like we've turned the corner financially and we hopefully can start competing for trophies again, without doubt Luis Suarez is a class player I've gone past caring about his disciplinary record how many chances he takes or doesn't all we want to see is good players wearing Arsenal shirts and winning football matches so please stop digging at us
Anglesey Gooner {Ed052's Note - AG, I am happy LS is going, I don't know why you see otherwise. I really am happy my friend. So if you want him, then go ahead. But I have explained why I think it a very very silly deal. On another note, did you know, you live very close to Ed052? (Me). Mister Anglesey}

Ed. It must be said though that Liverpool have (in recent years) paid over the odds for players.

From my perspective Henderson a similar proposition to Rambo and has a lot more development needed, could stall or kick on.

Guess your are Ward rather than Nicky B hey Ed;) {Ed052's Note - I am sure Hendo will kick on, because he did last year, and will only improve under a very good coach. I don't get your joke, sorry Hackney (did you have BBC Big Weekend?}

Timmy I am that confident that manchester united will not qualify for the cl that I am going to put money on it and post the betting slip on here.

malaga gooner

Ed52, I see a lot of similarities between hendo and ramsey. both looked very promising, then lost their way (a lot to do with injury) then they finished the season strongly. could see both kicking on next year. {Ed052's Note - Hendo hasn't had any injuries. Dalglish set him back playing him at RM. Hopefully both kick on. I'm welsh so want AR to play well.}

Nicholas Bendtner's squad number is 52 which he (apparently) requested when he got a pay rise to 52k pw. To be honest was the first time back in Hackney for years jut yesterday.

Spent the weekend pretending to be 22 with a friend visiting from France. Must say that he did a much better job than I did! Hope you had a good one yourself.

Meant ramsey when mentioning injury. should have made that clear. {Ed052's Note -no problem. But yes. It's true of Ramsey}

Hendo must be a player I haven't seen and I've watched a lot of Liverpool games last season. If its Henderson then I'm afraid you've shown huge bias there Ed52, he's average at best and can shine occasionally. He's not a player who should be in the starting XI for any top 6 team with aspirations of higher.
I think this coming season will show Rodgers to be the chances that he is, just by watching that documentary you could see he's fairly clueless, regardless of how it was edited.
Big year ahead for United and Liverpool, more pressure on them than Chelsea, City and Arsenal despite new managers and trophy droughts.

Paul {Ed052's Note - I don't quite get your point, but Hendo is a good player, who is improving into a top one.}

22 Jul 2013 21:18:16
Martin Charquero sounds like another BS Latin American source: remind me who was that Belgian player we, we're 100% signing?

Wait, don't tell me. Was it Hazard? No, wait, Vertonghen! Or was it Fellaini? Alderweireld? Mingolet? Lukaku?

You know, we've been linked to so many Belgian players it isn't even funny.

22 Jul 2013 20:57:29
Just heard a rumour that the future King born today is a gooner.
Congratulations to all concerned.

Could be first heir to throne called Dennis!

Lets hope we win a trophy before he gets on the throne. going by our summer, it may take even longer

22 Jul 2013 20:47:42
Ed052 u also an Arsenal fan? Good havin two eds here on th Arsenal page.
Nam-gooner {Ed052's Note - No, I'm a Liverpool fan, but my best bud is a Gunner}

Sadly my best bud is a spud. but you can imagine the banter we have. could last days.

he goes on about hi 4-4 win at the emirates and other feeble wins.

and I got the 5-2 and 16 years and counting.

22 Jul 2013 20:54:38
Arsenal have executed the first phase of this summers window in clearing around 18m off the wage bill. This figure set to rise with sale of Gervinho, loan deals for both Chamakh and Bendtner and the termination of Park contract.

Phase two

In

CF - Higuian or Suarez

AM - Bernard or Cesc

CM - Kongdogbia or Gustavo or Coupe

DF - Williams or Sakho

GK - Cesar

Higuian is the key to either getting him or Suarez. He is not keen on a move to Italy and would still prefer a move to Arsenal. As you all know this will only happen if Real revert back to the previously agreed price. If they don't then Higuian will stay at Real for another season on an improved contract. If this happens will be clear favourites to land Suarez. This will be confirmed by Thursday and a deal should be in place by this weekend with offical announcement next week.

Contrary to Arsene's comments today there is strong interest in Bernard, this deal is dependant on Cesc. If the new barca manager confirms Cesc is not part of his first team plans then he will seek a move away from the club.

After seville let Navas and Negredo go they don't have much appetite or need to let Kongdogbia go, this would be the clubs first choice at around 10-15m. Gustavo would welcome a move if the guarentee of first team football was on offer and we could match bayerns valuation of around 15m. Capoue will definately leave, however monaco are at the front of the pack for his signature.

Williams will leave Swansea now they have a suitable replacement in Flores from Genoa.

Cesar will sign next week.

Come on goo

Looks easy on paper. In reality its harder than getting rid of Bedtner. Wenger/Gazidis have to bite the bullet, if it means paying £30m for Higuain then do so. Utd paid the same for Berbatov and nobody "crucified" them.

But then if you're Wenger it must be a big step going from Gervinho and Chamakh to Higuain and Jovetic

22 Jul 2013 19:58:54
The majority of you disagreed with me. Look who seems to be wrong now. Not only is a person saying a 40m pound bid was made, but now Martin Charquero is also saying we are very close to signing suarez. Press believable next time. Suarez is a gooner.

CheetahChaz97 {Ed052's Note - Why do you want LS?}

LS is the best player in the Prem when on form

If he plays a full season, no one would be close to him with goal+assist total

The same Martin chaquero that said gaston Ramirez was 100% going to be a liverpool player last season?

052 clearly doesn't fancy LS. I do not fancy him either but then if anyone can help LS with his personality issues, it is AW. He once helped a boy from the Netherlands but then the boy did not quite remember who and how he used to be. Let us sign him, after all it would probably take the same number of games as LS will miss for Hig to get used to the EPL. Furthermore, to be on the safe side, we can have his front teeth removed!

Lanz {Ed052's Note - There's a huge difference between the problems of RVP who I think you are referring to, and LS. Even in the off season, Suarez is causing huge problems for Liverpool. Remember, if you sign him, a)the media have a go, as he said he wanted to leave. b) he is banned for the first 6 games. c) he picks up loads of yellows, equal to 3 more games suspended, d) eats someone, or something crazy again - he does one a season remember. e)he wants to leave, and threatens to sure you}

22 Jul 2013 20:52:29
Both from the same country but who is he. and a Spanish tweet stating Arsenal and player. ?

Guess whose back. Bendtner's back. LS is a bloody good football player and with better supply would be even better. Also till improving, that man gets clinical and could be considered a peer to anyone (Messi excluded).

He is a proper person though.

Hackney Gooner

We want him the same reason you lot would like him to stay.

he is world class.

you will see a better attitude from him when he is with us at a big club

malaga gooner

22 Jul 2013 19:36:57
Cesc Fabregas,

Maybe he isn't a 100% happy at Barca, I would be surprised but you never know.

So if he wasn't happy and wants to come back to Arsenal, a club and manager he loves, what's the best way to do it, get his agent to make the right noises.

Get a club to bid, in this case the Mancs, Barcelona accept it and we step in and say here's ya £25 million, thanks very much.

He comes back to a club on the way up to play with the likes of Jack, Cazorla and the rest, knowing we can now compete and gives the ginger prince and the Mancs a nice big body swerve, much like Thiago.

I was wondering if this was going on too.

22 Jul 2013 21:52:45
Arsene also said the following,

'We have the clause in the contract so we would be on alert, '

He of all people will know what's in the clause and exactly what to do when the time arises.

Selling RVP to them hurt Wenger. and if we as Arsenal fans know how good cesc is, imagine the man who knows him best. no way Arsenal will let Cesc join united.

He's staying (99%)

if united table a 40mill pound bid and barcelona accept, and then cesc wants to come back to Arsenal, it means we sign him for 25mill.

for those who say he will choose united over arsenal. perhaps if it was still fergie. I would chance it at 30-70. but with Wenger. it's 99% Arsenal. hence why barcelona won't accept, and also why he will stay on.

22 Jul 2013 19:14:27
I can genuinely see Suarez coming to Arsenal. I think Wenger really wants him and it will happen.
Personally I would prefer a player who is more endearing, but I've come around to the idea; he will score us goals, we create enough chances.

Paul {Ed052's Note - Paul, it doesn't matter if your team creates lots of chances, Suarez only seems to score when he does it all on his own. And he may score a lot, but he wastes a heck of a lot more too}

Edo52 there is no need to bring your sour grapes on to this page.

your no longer a big club.

thursday night football is the best your lot can hope for.

lmfao

malaga gooner {Ed052's Note - haha, you're so funny Malaga, hilarious. Now, if you understood the history of Liverpool, in footballing terms, you wouldn't go around saying stuff like that. So, who's won the most trophies, say in the last 5 years. Which is the team which has got old big ears 5 times? Who has all of the England captains down to U18? I'm not coming on here, giving shit, I come on here when there are no other Eds about so your not waiting ages for posts to come through. In the best interests of Arsenal, they should not by LS}

Ed052 you may me right but we don't have a problem similar to liverpool as we have 2 very clinical wife forwards in poldi and walcot. He may get them more into picture.

Also to your previous question on why do we (arsenal fans) want him. In Ideal world seeing what he is doing to liverpool (club which I respect a lot), I would not want him. But now considering that the given options we have are Higuain/Suarez. I would be happy with either but would prefer Suarez because although Higuain is a massive upgrade on Guroid but Suarez offers something that no one at arsenal offers that cutting edge. In that sense he is better than RVP aswell.

Can't deny he is probaly the best striker in the prem though ed? {Ed052's Note - Hmm, probably. But it depends. On his day, he is the 3rd best player in the world, and fair enough, its his day most days. But he wastes a lot of the ball, and chances, and is extremely selfish, so when he's not on, he's shocking tbh}

Ed052,

what makes it more satisfying that your REIGN as the kingpins in the league was brought to an end by us.

your club is so in the past I expect to watch you lot on the history channel.

now "CALM DOWN" there is no need to get lemon!

1 minute!

malaga gooner {Ed052's Note - Malaga, how many first divisions have you won? Less than us, and look, you accept 4th year in year out. Of Liverpool and Arsenal, we've been the most recent challengers for the league. There's no need to get angry, or have a go. I respect Arsenal very much, especially as its a model Liverpool are looking at, to replicate in a way. Yet, you let down Arsenal fans with all the crap about 'not being a big team' and 'history', and such like}

Hold on 2nd I was not being abusive towards you, it is called banter.

the last time I looked I was on an arsenal banter forum.

i have never been abusive to any 1 on here.

so what's the problem and what have I posted that even warrants a ban.

i would like a reply because I do not think I have been abusive or disrespectful towards you.

regards

malaga gooner {Ed052's Note - Nah bud, I have said, you haven't been offensive to me. I'm thick skinned and get better rubbish than you've given (fair play). But some of the stuff you say if wrong, some is silly and its banter when your debating, a little joke tec. but not 3 or 4 posts about how Liverpool are past it and such like}

malaga gooner {Ed052's Note - no worries MG. banter, discussion and debate is great just not name calling and such like. I'm not offended at all. Don't worry!}

22 Jul 2013 18:46:04
DAVID MOYES has confirmed Manchester United have made a second bid for Cesc Fabregas.
United had a £26million offer to Barcelona turned down last week.
Now Moyes says chief executive Ed Woodward has made an increased bid, believed to be a club record £31million.

gutting Man United with Cesc will dominate {Ed052's Note - Utd with Moyes will suffer}

My thoughts exactly mate. And I think I'll enjoy that.

True. They could (no offence meant 52) do a Pool over the coming years. {Ed052's Note - none taken. Lets hope they do lol}

22 Jul 2013 18:27:45
hi edo27 hope your well.

whats your gut feeling on suarez do you think we can pull it off.

malaga gooner {Ed027's Note - hope you are to mate, as an Arsenal fan I can't see, it's just not Arsenal spending 40m on a world class player, not only that he's trouble, I think we may put in a 40m bid after what Ed002 has said on other pages, but I reckon Liverpool will wait for Madrid, unless Suarez really wants to move to Arsenal, we have to act fast, I think we will see things happen in the next few days

I would love him to sign, I honestly believe he could be as good as henry.

thanks mate

malaga gooner

As much as I dislike LS, He would be a great for AFC.

Arsenal bidding £40m?

I'm getting that excited. I can't stand up!

Bernard, Fellaini too?

I'm sure I will just wake up and find out its a French guy that was going to give the game up to be a postman!

Cammy out!

xxx

23 Jul 2013 09:31:23
Ed027 excellent point.
liverpool would be just waiting for real to put a bid with a player + cash in exchange. and would be happy to pick either of alonso or moratta with suarez going other way. arsenal would be suarez last option since he has already stated his frustration about english media.

or else you would have to bid somewhere near 50 mill to tempt liverpool to sell.

suarez is kinda guy who would not sit in the bench like tevez. with world cup coming next year. and also he is true professional once he cross the line on the pitch.

22 Jul 2013 18:16:52
hello guys
I am new on this site and for the last few weeks I have had the best time reading rumours and the banter page.

I was wondering, now that Juve have tevez and llorente, vucinic would (?) be looking for another club. how do you rate him. considering the fact that or striker targets are looking a bit out of reach at the moment it wouldn't be a bad idea to look at vucinic (maybe as a back up striker for giroud) I do hope giroud continues scoring for fun like he had been doing pre-season

ps- love the site.

cheers

First of all welcome to the site, from another Hindustani, and on the topic of vannuci, we need player who is better than Giroud not a player who will play a back up to him, we need better players than Vannuchi. to have any chance of winning the epl nxt season, he is not good enough

Apparently United are looking at him mate. Welcome to the page by the way!

22 Jul 2013 17:06:13
To the brain dead person that tells a passionate supporter to sod off, grow up and smell what's been cooking for the last 5 years.

You can't live in the past, that's history, its now that's important, we need to buy class players for the season ahead if we are to improve, and we need to have started weeks back.

Its blind supporters like you that's holding the momentum to change up!

Who is this aimed at?

22 Jul 2013 16:33:20
barcelona have rejected second offer for Cesc from united. surely. they should just stop bidding for him.

They would only be embarrassed anyway, as I think given a (despite what they saw about our lack of silverware) choice, cesc would've come back to us.

So its probably for the best.

Liverpool have rejected 2 bids from us for suarze and rm have rejected 2 bids again from us for hig! means nothing!

22 Jul 2013 15:31:03
Never understood why people send in posts like 'as I said before' or 'like I mentioned back in may' when they don't sign off. That's more pointless than a kick in the nuts.

What's pointless about a kick in the nuts?

A kick in the nuts is not pointless if she's wearing stilletos. cha ching :)

As I have said before, they will keep posting, like I mentioned this awhile back october 2001 to be precise.

I've been saying this for ages

Agreed metal

malaga gooner

Like I said before, we will signing Higuain, Cesar, Gustavo and Ginter. You heard it from me folks

I said the same thing back in may, this is a kick in the nuts

Ha! Nice one guys!

Like I said before, I had a kick in the nuts in May.

22 Jul 2013 15:21:21
Glass half full Billybob says:
Bernard looks like a younger version of Cazorla
He seems like a Wenger signing: young, relatively unknown, transfer done under-the-radar

Glass half empty Billybob says:
Wenger has flat out denied this (is it really a ploy. )
Nothing to say we would get the work permit
Player is owned by 3rd party, which Arsenal will want to avoid
21mln is a LOT of money

------------
Same old arsenal.

Billybob

22 Jul 2013 14:49:08
Luis Suarez = New Arsenal no. 9 (well I can but hope at least)

Forgot about podolski have you?

Lol dammmm your right. and yes I had done till that point. cheers akie.

22 Jul 2013 14:43:13
Spurs are taking control in the market. Paulinho and chadli are superb buys and yet they are still on market for striker. We need to make a mark now. Higuian is sounding more like a rubbish deal. He's the one that never turns up to the medical. And all this talk about fabregas to UTD when we have first choice and yet winger is quiet. 6th at best this year

I don't think you are an Arsenal fan.

They've bought a fairly good midfielder and a winger that wouldn't get anywhere near our starting XI.

I think he is an arsenal fan- that's the scary thing!

22 Jul 2013 14:23:13
Ive got a sneaky feeling liverpool will put up a good fight for 4th this coming season with or without suarez don't take them lightly or the those across the park especially if they hang on to bale this season will not be a walk in the park for arsenal

Not likely, and it wouldn't be a surprise if they finished below their rivals Everton for the 3rd season in a row.

See its talk like this I don't get. if liverpool (outside top 4 for a while) can buy players and be expected to fight for 4th and tottenham (behind us for years) can do the same and challenge for 4th then why do people think that arsenal (never outside top 4) will be battling with them when after we improve our squad

If we can improve our squad.

Liverpool anywhere near 4th next season is hilarious. They're a Fulham. The old Fulham, not this new rich Fulham who have hope.

Paul

22 Jul 2013 14:18:26
tv: Man United again increasing there bid for cesc, could this be the reason wenger hasn't brought Anyone yet making sure he don't miss out on cesc, because even if he buys big letting cesc go to united would be the last straw for me and many others?

Not as if Cesc is a player we desperately need - its lots of other positions which should be receiving a much higher priority

Without any doubt- knowing full well that we have money and wenger doesn't even attempt to sign cesc?

The fans will go crazy mad and that's even with signing someone like suarez/higuain and a couple of other good signings (it would only take the edge off).

Without those types of signings?

He would face the most hostile crowd at the emirates in his career- trust me on that.

Why would it be Wenger's fault if Fabregas goes to United. Surely there is nothing Wenger can do if hypothetically Cesc wanted to play for them?

Wenger is 4 weeks away from hearing boo's like he never hear before, if he spends none.

22 Jul 2013 14:04:31
Not saying its true, but apparently Bernard has a third party ownership. - Which would mean Porto is the most likeliest destination.

22 Jul 2013 12:20:51
Question fellow gunners.

Would anyone be unhappy if flamini came back to the club?

I personally wouldn't have a problem with it considering he's available on a free transfer.

Still see scousers posting rubbish trying to convince themselves that Suarez isn't moving lol

Liverpools a joke. We all post on here praying for the day that gervinho leaves our club and the guy could easily walk into the Liverpool starting 11

Time to be realistic boys and accept your a has been mid table club, ripe for the picking by the giants of English football

Ha! Your point about Gervinho did make me laugh. The funny thing is you might have a point!

I would be unhappy if Flamini came back. Not so much for football reasons, but just traditionally I don't like returning players unless they are out of this world. Having Flamini back would indicate that we are rubbish and desperate when we aren't. We're on to something special with this group and the last thing we need is to delve into the past unless it's for someone unreal like Cesc.

Also, I just don't like Flamini. He ran down his deal with us, ran down a deal at Milan, walked, came back on a free two weeks later and he's run it down again.

Billion other players in the world, can't we choose one of them? If he's not good enough for Milan he isn't good enough for us imo.

Have some respect for other clubs mate. Liverpool aren't the team they used to be but neither are we, wouldn't call us a giant of English football without a trophy in 8 years

Sterling, ibe, sturridge and aspas are all better than gervinho so he wouldn't get in te team at all get your facts straight its fans like you that do my head in your just showin yourself up as a brainless unknowledgable delusional person

Oh but we are a giant albeit a sleeping one.

Why would I respect a club who let their cash strapped bitter rivals surpass them on a shoe string budget while they had the finances to prevent it?

You have done exactly what the Liverpool fans are trying to do and somehow lump Arsenal and Liverpool at the same level, which we are not.

What I would like them to understand is that regardless of our trophy drought (which every cu^t from every other club loves to mention, showing how much they respect us) Suarez moving to us would be a step up for him and not sideways.

Fair play to you akie, you have the class to show them a level of respect that the recent posters on here have not been showing us.

Cheers for the input Metal. I can see your point, though I think come the end of the transfer window if the cdm spot has not been filled, an experienced player who knows the club we could do a lot worse

Why do we get some many Liverpool fans on our page? Clearly worried about Suarez. We don't know any more than you.

Oh, and Gervinho would get into the Liverpool team. He gets into our team and we're a better side. Liverpool have some great youngsters and I'd have Sterling over Gervinho but he'd still get into the Liverpool team no worries. So pipe down. Arguing with us on our own page. jeez.

And what's more, no one cares about the opinion of other fans on our trophy drought. The real fans understand the reasons. You guys won the FA Cup the year after we last did, and you won the CL on pens.

We've also been to a CL final, and a cup final, since then, on a fraction of the budget with many lesser players than you guys have had, and we got knocked out of the CL by the greatest football team the world has ever seen, ever. We're also the only English team to beat Barca, Bayern and Madrid away, since our last trophies, whilst making a profit in the market and paying off stadium debt.

You guys have spunked money up the wall for 8 years and hardly have more to show for it. Keep your chat to your own page, let us judge our club and you can judge yours!

I do understand the reasons why we haven't won a trophy for 8 years, built a new stadium so we have been on a very very tight budget.

And absolutely we can be a giant again. And getting Suarez would create a massive massive gap. Really huge between us and Liverpool.

Just want to see a little more respect for other clubs (apart from spurs).

Fair enough though, arsenal forever and metal gooner I respect your opinions just like you've respected mine.

Here's to next season. Hopefully a good one for us. COYG

22 Jul 2013 12:14:46
i know we have talked in the past about players at the club that can fill that DM role but I honestly believe we have 1 at the club already.

his name is SAGNA.

outstanding as a utility player

give him his contract arsene.

malaga gooner

Before long someone is going to suggest theo Walcott as a good option for DM.
All last season people on here moaned about players playing out of position. Now people WANT them out of position

He's a pretty average RB and that is his true position so I dread to see him as a DMF

Defensive midfielder? You are joking right? There is no chance in hell he could play that role.

He's doing a decent job filling in as CB alongside Per as that pairing style works.

You're smoking too much pot Malaga. Stick to your hilarious rumour posts.

Paul

What! Sagna for DM? thought your transfer rumours were bad enough but really? Sagna?

My man, you've said some crazy things in the past, but come on.
Sagna, he's not a DM, he's becoming more of a cannavaro-esque CB as it goes on, but first and foremost he's a RB.

If any player at the club was converted to a DM, it's got to be TV5, but converting defeats the object, as you then weaken the position you took from.

I wanted Fellaini so badly to begin with, then when bender was mentioned, I was happy with that.
Now, there's no notice and I'd settle for Capoue.

D

Sagna at dm? you know **** all about football

You've got to love Malaga! :D



SM1996

I watched the game today and I thought he was superb the way he intercepted the ball and his distribution was spot on.
as I said a utility player.

i never said a full time dm just some 1 that could fit into that position when needed.

malaga gooner

ps, paul even on a bad day stoned I would wipe the floor with you.

22 Jul 2013 11:54:57
Ramsey has been showing the his pre-injury promise recently. I have to be honest and say I wrote him off last year, but the last 6 months he's been outstanding.
Sagna may have only been filling in as CB but he's looked good too alongside Per. We still need another CB though in my opinion

Paul

22 Jul 2013 11:03:28
As usual, we are shooting ourselves in the foot by driving hard bargains, at the cost of actually winning a trophy.

If we want:
Ceasar - Pay his wages
Williams - Pay Swansea £10m
Fellaini - Trigger the £23m clause & pay him the wages he reportedly wants
Higuain - Offer Real £30m

All these can be purchased for the reported £70m transfer fund.

Another travesty is the amount lost on players given away, such as Santos, Squilacci (contract run down, Arshavin (contract run down). Park, Chamakh & Bentner appear unsaleable. Djourou loaned out once again.

Cant imagine this happening when Dein was in charge of such matters.

Obviously you have it all figured out. perhaps you should get into management since you clearly know more than wenger does.

22 Jul 2013 09:56:57
dont care how good he is, ik will struggle massively to support Suarez in an Arsenal shirt.

As a club we should have too much class to even entertain the thought of buying him. It's depressing to think that all his undoubted good work on the fireld will be ruined by some mindless idiocy at some point every season. As good as he is, I just don't want him.

Rob G

I would love Suarez to join us. Although, I have my doubts that we will manage to sign him.

Rob Gooner

Couldn't agree more - I think he is a person! I'd much rather we signed Higuain and had a player who would quietly score goals and be a role model to young footballers. I don't want to have to put up with banter in the pub about us signing Hanibal lector: 'Whhheeeyy, bet that took a big bite out of your transfer budget?' that's all we are going to here if we sign him. Plus, there's no guarantee he will perform. I think my perfect summer would be:
Cesar,
Williams,
Kondogbia,
Higuain.

If Gervi leaves, I'd love to see us put in a cheeky bid for Di Maria - then hopefully Real would have enough money to buy Bale - now that would be a laugh! Although, I don't want the spurs to get relagated, that'd be dull! How could we beat them if we weren't even in the same league as them!

Anyway, just a few of my thoughts. At least we are doing well in the cricket!

But the problem is IK is NOT any good.
therein lies the problem

shaneyd

Ah I see you meant Suarez, for me I would take him for sure. But IK won't get him anyway:)

shaneyd

Rob G I couldn't have put it better myself. I thought Arsenal were playing games bidding for him.

22 Jul 2013 09:26:54
Any concrete transfer news on Bernard to Arsenal please and how good is this dude compare to talents we already have?

He's better than Gervinho.

I've seen a little of Bernard play, and by a little, I mean around 180 mins worth, no more.
I also have a "pen pal" in brazil, who I asked about him, and her response was essentially he's a top talent, considered up there with Neymar, Oscar and A couple of others as the "golden boys" of the next gen.

From what I've seen, his main attributes are insane pace and great dribbling skills.
He seems quite raw, and that's only to be expected of a 21 (?) year old.
He seems confident at taking on a man with his dribbling, and in a game I watched him play, his linking with the legendary Ronaldinho was Joyous.
However, that's only one part of one game.

I think if we signed him, the closest player I could attribute him to is Eden Hazard.
Big conclusion I know, but he has similar talents, in his pace, direct running and dribbling.

He won't score loads of goals in the EPL I feel, but his clever movement will draw out full backs and centre backs, leaving room for the likes of Giroud or Podolski to move in the centre.

£21m seems steep for a gamble, but if you want top talent, you have to pay for it, and with the brasiliero becoming richer over the past few years, the clubs are less desperate for money and more likely to ask for the appropriate price.

All in all, I just don't see it.
£21m for a player who'd probably be back up to pod?

My biggest concern, is that the prospective sale of Gervinho means we need a new winger, Giroud has been scoring for fun pre-season, and Podolski has bagged a couple.
What if Wenger see's their impressive performances against VASTLY inferior opponents as need not to buy a striker, and to spend on a LW, hence the move for Suarez and the Hig deal dying.

Suarez played LW for Liverpool early on, and played there for Ajax a lot too.
We don't need a player who can play in multiple areas, we need a top class lad who is primarily in the position we play him.
So a Winger who wants to play on the wing, not a striker who wants to play up top but can play out wide.


And I've digressed a lot here, sorry my friend!

But it all brings up worries in my mind.
I genuinely wonder if Arsene doesn't KNOW how to spend big money!

D

22 Jul 2013 08:03:23
Vermaelen-injured
Koscielny-injured
Szczesny-injured

Just waiting for Wilshere, Gibbs and Rosicky to break down, and Diaby to have a relapse.
Whoever bought the Arsenal team voodoo doll selection must be well pleased. Always buy in bulk. It's cheaper.

Last season I bought an RVP doll. Stuck pins in it, set it alight, ripped it up. NOTHING.
Threw it in the bin and it landed in some tippex head first.
Small victories :-)
Flybo

There is something very wrong with Arsenal's conditioning of the players. Every season we suffer injury after injury, yet when players such as RVP depart the injuries mysteriously clear up.
Rob Gooner

22 Jul 2013 03:33:37
Pipa told Napoli to chill the f out and see if his primary destination offered a bid

Whether we get him or not, Arsene's still got it

"Hey Mr. 30 goal guy from the richest sports club in the world, come be a Gunner". yes please he said

Wenger's the man, liquor is speaking but let's be serious, I mean it. the Title comes trough the Emirates this year.

Proud to be

Hope you're right.

22 Jul 2013 00:58:43
Laid here in dream world thinking of the season ahead. Dreaming to myself hoping that wenger is going to shock us all to the core. Show us he has still got what it takes to bring all the glory back,
what if he pulls off the shock of all shocks,
What if he takes saurez, what if he takes higuain, and to show he means proper business buy bringing back cesc, and just to ease the squad adds a few class players, william cesar and kondogbia are my reckoning, haha wishful thinking I know, but we all like to dream abit

21 Jul 2013 23:25:56
Well if the news is true and Madrid have accepted 30mill for higuain, it can either me one of two things.

1) Suarez is the player they want.

Not sure what will become of benzema in that instance, will he be backup? or will benzema be their no 1 striker, with chances for morata and jesse?

Also Madrid have received 7-10 mill for the Garay to united deal, 3mill for the negredo to city deal, and 18 mill from the albiol and callejon to napoli deal, add the 30 mill from higuain, and the very likely departure of coentrao for another 20mill atleast, that 75 mill to spend.

2) they will go for bale with the 75 mill.

option 1, and we have pretty much wasted the summer, option 2, and we will not only get suarez, but they will get bale and happy days. fingers crossed. {Ed027's Note - They want Suarez to replace Higuain, they want Bale to replace Di Maria, bot are spate deals, Bale is likely to happen next summer regardless of Spurs position in the league

I agree, if Madrid sell Higuain they will go after Suarez. We need to make sure we get Higuain and forget Suarez

Bales will NOT be sold this year, regardless of any offers made.

Man U can make an offer for him but it will be ignored {Ed027's Note - i'm pretty certain if a 60m+ bid comes Mr Levy will rub his hands

What and risk losing avb I doubt it.

dave

No chance, he will go for at least £80m and that will be next year.

Will levy say NO to a 90 mill Euro bid?

Im not quite sure anyone can flatly say. no to that amount. that is a hell of a lot of money.

Quarter of the value of the club for one player in their case.

you must be crazy to say no, and then miss out on champions league.